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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on April 08, 2014, 12:44:31 PM
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Was I the only one watching the championship game last night and remembering the huge debate as to whether MU/Buzz wanted this guy?
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No. Thought about that every time I saw him.
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Thankfully at least Jeremy Lamb has already won his National Championship and moved on.
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IIRC, MU had Durley, (oops) and there were concerns about Nolan's academics, as well as his desire to play immediately, which everyone then understood was not going to happen at MU. Milwaukee kid. Thin as a rail and didn't like to bang down low. Finally, there was a late opening that ultimately went to McKay. But I may have some of the details wrong.
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Was I the only one watching the championship game last night and remembering the huge debate as to whether MU/Buzz wanted this guy?
Yes ....
"famously" he was the guy in 2011 that sat outside MU's locker room for 90 minutes while they had a team meeting following a loss to Seton Hall in Newark at the Prudential Center.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25179.0
He was going to St. Benedicts in Newark at the time. I think that was his 4th or 5th high school (starting with Vincent in Milwaukee) and he was beleived to be a "head case" and a risk.
Remember this was around the time their were other "issues" with the team, and Montrele Clark (you can look that up yourself) so Buzz was not willing to take another "problem child."
Given all that I think we could have had him had we wanted him. Just like Jermey Lamb (he really wanted to come to MU, buzz thought he was not that good. So he went to uconn and was a major reason, after Kemba, that they won it all in 2011).
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I remember there were whispers about character, but nothing like Monterale Clark. He was the guy Buzz kept waiting after the Seton Hall game? Interesting.
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Yeah, there were some red flags with Nolan. Obviously we were more comfortable with Clark, Roseboro, McMorrow, Durley, McKay...
At least Mbakwe and Maymon actually played in some games.
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I also think he was signed after Calhoun left, and orkawi (sp) jumped to Missouri.
They had extra spots and were going to probation so they were looking for bodies and with Calhoun out and probation coming they had few takers.
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No. He isnt any good
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No. He isnt any good
He's like Kaminsky .... Good now but no one thought much of him coming out of high school. But he turned out to be a diamond in the rough.
In Milwaukee the guy was Tokoto ... His decision was broadcast live on TV. Nolan's decision (same class) wasn't page 1 Milwaukee sentimental news.
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Nolan was a three star #118 player in his class
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2509
So he was not a top 100 guy.
For all you that ask why didn't we get Nolan, see all the poster that don't give a SH!t if we get Satchel Pierce. Pierce is a three star center too.
So let's not play revisionist history with Nolan. No one cared we did not get him. Just like no one cared Kaminsky was never interested in us or that he was going to Bucky. He was going to amount to anything.
Big guys develop at different speed. See our 2 star waste of a scholarship destine to be a bust we signed 4 years ago ... Some fat kid from Virginia named Devante Gardner.
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He probably is not that good, but starts at Center on the NCAA champion. Buzz Williams dissed him. I believe that is when Buzz took a flying leap at Durley.
Hey Buzz, how did that work out.
Now come the Buzz apologists trying to cover Buzz's butt on that one too.
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Personally, I wouldn't blame a coach for not taking a kid who needed to transfer high school 5 or 6 times before graduating.
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He was terrible last night. He had something like 0 points, 4 fouls, and got stuffed everytime he went up for a layup.
He does have a ring though
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Personally, I wouldn't blame a coach for not taking a kid who needed to transfer high school 5 or 6 times before graduating.
I fart sunshine and puke rainbows, and I eat Buzz Brownies all day, says the down home lonesome cowboy enthusiast.
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He probably is not that good, but starts at Center on the NCAA champion. Buzz Williams dissed him. I believe that is when Buzz took a flying leap at Durley.
Hey Buzz, how did that work out.
Now come the Buzz apologists trying to cover Buzz's butt on that one too.
Show me your 2011 post that Buzz erred in passing on Nolan?
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Show me your 2011 post that Buzz erred in passing on Nolan?
never said I had a 2011 post, and I do not remember if I did. You can research it though.
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He's like Kaminsky .... Good now but no one thought much of him coming out of high school. But he turned out to be a diamond in the rough.
In Milwaukee the guy was Tokoto ... His decision was broadcast live on TV. Nolan's decision (same class) wasn't page 1 Milwaukee sentimental news.
Every UConn fan I know (and I know a lot) thinks he is terrible. He can defend the post, but mostly he is 5 fouls. He did a great job defending against Florida, though he accumulated the fouls quickly. UConn's centers set screens, play defense, and catch and dunk. He is fine at the first two of those things.
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never said I had a 2011 post, and I do not remember if I did. You can research it though.
Buzz has tons of things to pick on, passing on Nolan is not one of them.
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Every UConn fan I know (and I know a lot) thinks he is terrible. He can defend the post, but mostly he is 5 fouls. He did a great job defending against Florida, though he accumulated the fouls quickly. UConn's centers set screens, play defense, and catch and dunk. He is fine at the first two of those things.
But he got minutes on a national championship team. That is how he will be remembered.
Durley: I recognize that many people currently discount anything Buzz ever said, but regarding Durley, after Otule got injured and the talk started about a 6th year for him, Buzz told the Durley's that he was never going to see the floor until his third year at MU. Perhaps there was a better fit elsewhere for him. Durley went somewhere else. But it was the truth. 12-13 would have been his red-shirt year. 13-14, he never would have gotten off of the bench. No minutes to be had with Oxtule. So, this coming season will be the first that MU feels the impact of Aaron going elsewhere. Just like it will be the first where MU feels the absence of Nolan. Or McKay.
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Am I missing something? His career numbers are abysmal and his performance last night wasn't any better. Just because UConn won the title doesn't mean all their players are future NBA All-Stars and all the chicks at their school are smoking hot.
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I remember seeing him in HS and he played outside, which I thought was odd -- but he could knock down the occasional 3. I never thought he would be a true post player, but his body has filled out and who knows, he is only a sophomore. I would trade him for Juan in a second.
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Willie, you sit and complain about Derrick only getting 5 points, almost 5 assists, and 4 rebounds a game, and now you're complaining that Buzz didn't land a player who averaged 3 points, 2 rebounds, and less than half of an assist per game?
You are one interesting dude.
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Willie, you sit and complain about Derrick only getting 5 points, almost 5 assists, and 4 rebounds a game, and now you're complaining that Buzz didn't land a player who averaged 3 points, 2 rebounds, and less than half of an assist per game?
You are one interesting dude.
And you sir cannot interpret. Derrick should not be playing more than 15 minutes a game. He is a back up. I am certainly not the only one that feels that way, so pick your arguments with those many that feel that way. Derrick is a good kid. I have said that many times. So if that is complaining. it is what it is. I have not complained about not landing Nolan. What I did say is he sure as hell would be better for MU than Durley was. Buzz dissed the kid. That is typical Buzz. I could care less that we landed Nolan, but would take him over Durley. UConn sure got something out of him.
Does that clear it up for you.
Man, the Buzz apologists just love to deflect everything.
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And you sir cannot interpret. Derrick should not be playing more than 15 minutes a game. He is a back up. I am certainly not the only one that feels that way, so pick your arguments with those many that feel that way. Derrick is a good kid. I have said that many times. So if that is complaining. it is what it is. I have not complained about not landing Nolan. What I did say is he sure as hell would be better for MU than Durley was. Buzz dissed the kid. That is typical Buzz. I could care less that we landed Nolan, but would take him over Durley. UConn sure got something out of him.
Does that clear it up for you.
Man, the Buzz apologists just love to deflect everything.
Scoop Language Alert
Criticize Willie in any way = Buzz Apologist/Slurper.
See Willie never ever ever makes idiotic or inconsistent statements. No all us mouth-breathers are slurping Buzz and incorrectly THINK Willie is wrong.
Buzz should have known the 118th best player two years ago, that went to five high schools in 4 years was going to be the starting center on the national championship team. That was an easy call and Buzz should be blasted for passing on such an obvious talent.
We just need to get out lips off Buzz's arse and will "get it" Right Willie?
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Durley ended up at TCU and tore the ACL in his right knee... twice. Poor kid will be going on his third season and hasn't played a minute of college basketball yet.
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Scoop Language Alert
Criticize Willie in any way = Buzz Apologist/Slurper.
See Willie never ever ever makes idiotic or inconsistent statements. No all us mouth-breathers are slurping Buzz and incorrectly THINK Willie is wrong.
Buzz should have known the 118th best player two years ago, that went to five high schools in 4 years was going to be the starting center on the national championship team. That was an easy call and Buzz should be blasted for passing on such an obvious talent.
We just need to get out lips off Buzz's arse and will "get it" Right Willie?
Yeah I get it Heisenhamburger. You are saying all the things your boy Buzz says, sort of like Buzzspeak, but we can now call it Heisenspeak. I did not say any of what you are sarcastically saying in your defense of Buzz. Speak anything contrary to what Heisenberger believes=Heisenberger misquotes and incorrect interpretations.
Only Heisy's opinion counts. I get it.
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I fart sunshine and puke rainbows, and I eat Buzz Brownies all day, says the down home lonesome cowboy enthusiast.
So Willie, you would take a recruit who had so many academic and personal issues that he need to transfer 5 times in order to graduate high school?
Cause I said I wouldn't....and then you made fun of me for saying it....so I am assuming that you would take him. Please let me know if I am misinterpreting.
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So Willie, you would take a recruit who had so many academic and personal issues that he need to transfer 5 times in order to graduate high school?
Cause I said I wouldn't....and then you made fun of me for saying it....so I am assuming that you would take him. Please let me know if I am misinterpreting.
I would have taken him over Durley, which is contrary to what Buzz did. Buzz took other risks: Roseboro, Mbao, McMorrow, Clark.
Wasn't making fun of you for saying that you would not. Both would have been projects, Nolan less of one.
No I would not take Nolan either. But I would not have left him sitting on his ass for 90 minutes like Buzz did.
Just quit defending El douche, and you will be fine.
If I was making fun, it was over your tag line, which is funny.
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Am I missing something? His career numbers are abysmal and his performance last night wasn't any better. Just because UConn won the title doesn't mean all their players are future NBA All-Stars and all the chicks at their school are smoking hot.
I could not believe how soft he was last night. Every time he had the ball inside, he was too methodical and weak and he promptly ate every shot he took. It happened over and over again.
Both Kerr and Anthony talked a couple times about how weak he was.
He was a high school vagabond, a non-top-100 recruit and now he needs to improve just to be a mediocre college player.
Yes, he started on a national championship team. So did Bill Neary.
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Durley ended up at TCU and tore the ACL in his right knee... twice. Poor kid will be going on his third season and hasn't played a minute of college basketball yet.
Otule plan. patience young Eford.
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Not so much, he is hanging up his sneakers. There will be no third season for Durley. That knee is shot.
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Willie mentioned McMorrow. Does it seem there is there more to the story now besides "health problems"?
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I could not believe how soft he was last night. Every time he had the ball inside, he was too methodical and weak and he promptly ate every shot he took. It happened over and over again.
Both Kerr and Anthony talked a couple times about how weak he was.
He was a high school vagabond, a non-top-100 recruit and now he needs to improve just to be a mediocre college player.
Yes, he started on a national championship team. So did Bill Neary.
Speaking of HS vagabonds, was not Todd Mayo quite the HS vagabond? Believe he was.
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Yeah I get it Heisenhamburger. You are saying all the things your boy Buzz says, sort of like Buzzspeak, but we can now call it Heisenspeak. I did not say any of what you are sarcastically saying in your defense of Buzz. Speak anything contrary to what Heisenberger believes=Heisenberger misquotes and incorrect interpretations.
Only Heisy's opinion counts. I get it.
For someone that complains that everyone calls him names, you sure do do that a lot.
Again, where is your post from the recruiting period saying this is a guy we needed to get? A guy who's numbers are not very good so far is his college career to boot.
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Willie needs to get ahead of the curve and start calling out the Wojo slurpers now.
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Willie needs to get ahead of the curve and start calling out the Wojo slurpers now.
I'm thinking about un-ignoring him just for the comedic value.
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I'm thinking about un-ignoring him just for the comedic value.
Slamming your johnson in a car door would be less painful, and you'd learn more too
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Slamming your johnson in a car door would be less painful, and you'd learn more too
Point taken!
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never said I had a 2011 post, and I do not remember if I did. You can research it though.
Can't remember what you do, and are not willing to do research. Suddenly, your posts make sense.
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Slamming your johnson in a car door would be less painful, and you'd learn more too
Spoken like a man with experience.