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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on April 06, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
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Encouraging because he's keeping an open mind.
http://recruiting.blog.ajc.com/2014/04/04/will-georgia-basketball-star-stick-with-original-decision/
One of the nation’s top college basketball prospects told the AJC that he wants to chat with Marquette’s new coach before deciding whether or not to request a release from his letter of intent.
“I’m going to wait until I talk to the coach before I think about anything,” said Ahmed Hill, a 4-star shooting guard from Augusta who is ranked as the state’s No. 2 overall prospect.
“My family told me (after that conversation takes place), I need to go ahead and do whatever I decide to do … to just go ahead and do it. My family said they will support me with whatever I do.”
One of the main reasons that the 6-foot-5, 190-pound Hill signed last November with Marquette over 20 other schools, including UGA, Georgia Tech and Missouri, was the presence of coach Buzz Williams, who recently left for a similar job at Virginia Tech.
“It was pretty crazy that he left,” Hill said. “Coach Williams was a big reason why I signed with Marquette. I liked his coaching style, and the way he won.”
This week, Marquette announced Steve Wojciechowski, the longtime Duke assistant who has no head coaching experience, as the new coach. Hill is anxious to see how he fits into the new coach’s plans.
“I really haven’t talked to Coach Wojo much, so I don’t have an opinion of him yet,” Hill said. “We’re supposed to talk this weekend.
“I just want to talk to him on the phone, see what kind of person he is really, and see what he talks about. I will probably stay with Marquette unless I hear something I don’t like.”
A coaching change is one of the few negatives for an elite prospect opting to sign in basketball’s early period. In 2010, the AJC’s Mr. Basketball, Westlake High School’s Marcus Thornton, signed early with Clemson but was granted a release after a coaching change. Thornton ended up picking UGA over Alabama, Georgia Tech, and Texas at the end of the spring.
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Awesome! I really liked:
“I will probably stay with Marquette unless I hear something I don’t like."
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Awesome! I really liked:
“I will probably stay with Marquette unless I hear something I don’t like."
That's about the only take away that was encouraging. Everything else was neither a positive or negative.
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I would have personally liked Wojo to board the private jet and go down there in person...he should be our top priority right now. To hear Hill say he hasn't really talked to him is pretty disappointing to me.
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I would have personally liked Wojo to board the private jet and go down there in person...he should be our top priority right now. To hear Hill say he hasn't really talked to him is pretty disappointing to me.
He's reached out to him though. He hasn't been our coach a week yet even. I'm sure we can't begin to grasp everything on his plate right now.
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I would have personally liked Wojo to board the private jet and go down there in person...he should be our top priority right now. To hear Hill say he hasn't really talked to him is pretty disappointing to me.
Story was written Friday and it said they would talk this weekend.
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I would have personally liked Wojo to board the private jet and go down there in person...he should be our top priority right now. To hear Hill say he hasn't really talked to him is pretty disappointing to me.
Also Hill is in Augusta, this is Masters week, the airport was overflowing with private planes since Friday. Maybe he can't get there?
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Meanwhile, per Mark Miller- spoke with Cohen's coach this evening and nothing new to report on him either.
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Also Hill is in Augusta, this is Masters week, the airport was overflowing with private planes since Friday. Maybe he can't get there?
Let's not make excuses like that. If he determines he needs to see this kid in person then a busy airport at Augusta should not be holding him back. Fly into Savannah and drive the rest of the way. Take a bus to Louisville and hitch hike from there if you have to. If he seriously tells a prized recruit that he won't be coming in because the airport is just too busy, then I would have serious concerns about him being our coach going forward. I know this is his first week, but in my opinion Hill needs to be very high on his priority list.
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Also Hill is in Augusta, this is Masters week, the airport was overflowing with private planes since Friday. Maybe he can't get there?
The practice rounds for the Masters don't start until Tuesday...if he wanted to get in this weekend he could have. I'm not going to claim I know what goes into a first week on the job for a new D1 coach, just think he could have made it more of a priority.
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The practice rounds for the Masters don't start until Tuesday...if he wanted to get in this weekend he could have. I'm not going to claim I know what goes into a first week on the job for a new D1 coach, just think he could have made it more of a priority.
Corporate tents and bigwig smoozing started this weekend.
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Corporate tents and bigwig smoozing started this weekend.
Gotta work hard for those lofty stock options!!!
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Corporate tents and bigwig smoozing started this weekend.
I just checked because I was curious, but you can get into Augusta any day this week via a commercial flight. Don't know about this past weekend, but I would imagine it would have been the same if not easier to fly in this weekend. It's pointless to debate this...just wanted to give my opinion he could be doing more on what should be our top priority.
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I just checked because I was curious, but you can get into Augusta any day this week via a commercial flight. Don't know about this past weekend, but I would imagine it would have been the same if not easier to fly in this weekend. It's pointless to debate this...just wanted to give my opinion he could be doing more on what should be our top priority.
I'll leave it up to the man in charge to determine what the top priorities for him and his program are and whether he can be working harder on them.
Respect the process.
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Maybe Hill wasn't able to meet with Wojo until the weekend. Jumping to the conclusion Wojo is putting Hill off is based on nothing more than a guess.
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Let's not make excuses like that. If he determines he needs to see this kid in person then a busy airport at Augusta should not be holding him back. Fly into Savannah and drive the rest of the way. Take a bus to Louisville and hitch hike from there if you have to. If he seriously tells a prized recruit that he won't be coming in because the airport is just too busy, then I would have serious concerns about him being our coach going forward. I know this is his first week, but in my opinion Hill needs to be very high on his priority list.
Exactly. The best way to show that you have everything under control as a head coach is to let a player know he is more important than the program.
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Exactly. The best way to show that you have everything under control as a head coach is to let a player know he is more important than the program.
More evidence that Wojo's pimp hand is very strong indeed.
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That's about the only take away that was encouraging. Everything else was neither a positive or negative.
Wow! Tough crowd. I thought the tenor of what he said was very encouraging. He could have said that I really want to re-think my options, I'm not sure if MU is the place for me any more blah, blah, blah. Even that would not have been a death sentence but I'd certainly be more concerned. It seems like what we'd say in sales is this is "ours to lose" and if Wojo has the makes the same impression he seemed to make with Cohen we should (I know its not 100%) be able to keep both these guys.
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Exactly. The best way to show that you have everything under control as a head coach is to let a player know he is more important than the program.
That's how you take it? How about Hill feeling like he's not important enough to feel like he belongs in the program? crap Wojo should just grant his release for even questioning whether Wojo will be the right coach for him. Wojo needs to show these punks who wears the pants around here.
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Also Hill is in Augusta, this is Masters week, the airport was overflowing with private planes since Friday. Maybe he can't get there?
Uh, no.
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I would have personally liked Wojo to board the private jet and go down there in person...he should be our top priority right now. To hear Hill say he hasn't really talked to him is pretty disappointing to me.
You are going to base your disappointment/satisfaction on this? We know next to nothing about the Hill situation. Silly comment.
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Meanwhile, per Mark Miller- spoke with Cohen's coach this evening and nothing new to report on him either.
(http://www.tvworthwatching.com/img/pages/HU5J8WR4PGZGJ3G.jpg)
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Just don't let Wojo tell him anything he doesn't like.
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You are going to base your disappointment/satisfaction on this? We know next to nothing about the Hill situation. Silly comment.
Followed closely by those saying, "Hill should be his top priority." You guys have no idea if Wojo even wants Hill. Safe to assume he would, but what if he doesn't?
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Followed closely by those saying, "Hill should be his top priority." You guys have no idea if Wojo even wants Hill. Safe to assume he would, but what if he doesn't?
WE'LL set the recruiting priorities around here, thank you!
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Let's not make excuses like that. If he determines he needs to see this kid in person then a busy airport at Augusta should not be holding him back. Fly into Savannah and drive the rest of the way. Take a bus to Louisville and hitch hike from there if you have to. If he seriously tells a prized recruit that he won't be coming in because the airport is just too busy, then I would have serious concerns about him being our coach going forward. I know this is his first week, but in my opinion Hill needs to be very high on his priority list.
Yup. The guy is quoted that El Buzzo was a huge reason he signed. After current players being shored up, he should have been visited. Cohen got a visit.
Did Buzz take the private jet with him, or is Strong/MU tightening that huge budget already? The guy is about a top 30 recruit, and MU's #1.
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Encouraging because he's keeping an open mind.
http://recruiting.blog.ajc.com/2014/04/04/will-georgia-basketball-star-stick-with-original-decision/
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One of the main reasons that the 6-foot-5, 190-pound Hill signed last November with Marquette over 20 other schools, including UGA, Georgia Tech and Missouri, was the presence of coach Buzz Williams, who recently left for a similar job at Virginia Tech.
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I loved the bolded part: a SIMILAR job. Not quite the same. Well, a notable step down, in quality of program, in pay. But it is in the ACC. It is similar, right?
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The fact that all 9 current player's are at least thinking about staying and all 4 signed recruits are at least thinking about staying as well as NN. I'm not sure how much I can blame WOJO for not meeting with Hill yet.
Maybe Hill told him What day would be best to sit down with his family? If you would have told me 2 1/2 week after Buzz left that the above is the case I would have said I would be very happy with how the New coach had done. But then again why be happy at the 95% WOJO has seemed to do very well when people can focus on the 5% that you think he has not.
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Hill is basically saying a face-to-face is not necessary. You still have to call him up to arrange a face-to-face meeting, at that point Hill is likely deciding yes or no.
Beyond that you can still try to schedule a face-to-face to get to know each other better, but the decision will likely have already been made.
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In other news.......
The first survivor of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 is found by keefe in the Indian Ocean.
(http://www.tvworthwatching.com/img/pages/HU5J8WR4PGZGJ3G.jpg)
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Followed closely by those saying, "Hill should be his top priority." You guys have no idea if Wojo even wants Hill. Safe to assume he would, but what if he doesn't?
Hill should be a huge priority for Wojo. Period. And to even float the notion that Wojo wouldn't want a high 4-star prospect, who is a great kid, is simply ludicrous. If Hill doesn't come to MU....it's a big loss. Yes, Wojo has a lot on his plate - but I think you make it the top priority after meeting with the existing team, to get on the private jet and go so see the highest signed recruit we have for 2014.
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Hill should be a huge priority for Wojo. Period. And to even float the notion that Wojo wouldn't want a high 4-star prospect, who is a great kid, is simply ludicrous. If Hill doesn't come to MU....it's a big loss. Yes, Wojo has a lot on his plate - but I think you make it the top priority after meeting with the existing team, to get on the private jet and go so see the highest signed recruit we have for 2014.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have our first email writing campaign topic of the Wojo era! Let's get at it.
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Do people here honestly believe Wojo doesn't understand that getting Hill to come is a priority?
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Do people here honestly believe Wojo doesn't understand that getting Hill to come is a priority?
You'd be surprised about a lot of things on this board.
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Do people here honestly believe Wojo doesn't understand that getting Hill to come is a priority?
You'd think it would be a priority....instead of someone floating the notion that perhaps Wojo doesn't want Hill. People wouldn't question if Hill's been made a priority if Wojo had already gone to see or talk with Hill at minimum. Fact it took over a week gives the impression that it wasn't put at near the top of the priority list.
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Well, the Wojo honeymoon lasted about a week. Not bad.
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You'd think it would be a priority....instead of someone floating the notion that perhaps Wojo doesn't want Hill. People wouldn't question if Hill's been made a priority if Wojo had already gone to see or talk with Hill at minimum. Fact it took over a week gives the impression that it wasn't put at near the top of the priority list.
Hill said in the article that he's talked to Wojo just not at length. As I mentioned, maybe Hill couldn't see Wojo until the weekend. Why is everyone assuming it's the other way around? Oh wait, it's Scoop, that's why.
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Hill said in the article that he's talked to Wojo just not at length. As I mentioned, maybe Hill couldn't see Wojo until the weekend. Why is everyone assuming it's the other way around? Oh wait, it's Scoop, that's why.
+1
Whenever something happens, figure out how it paints MU in the worst possible light, that is what scoop assumes.
(if no scenario paints MU in a bad light, then start stretching credibility until you find such a scenario)
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All I'll say is that I don't know how someone can look at this quote -- "I will probably stay with Marquette unless I hear something I don’t like" -- and not be quite encouraged.
Till we hear otherwise, why get worked up about this even one iota?
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Ladies and Gentlemen, we have our first email writing campaign topic of the Wojo era! Let's get at it.
I suggested earlier when this Broeker guy dared challenge our authority and expertise on how to run the Marquette basketball program that we be given his email address. But the Scoop Moderators refused. And while we smelled fear we meekly submitted to their power, however illegitimate those prerogatives might be.
And now we receive word that this new coach is blatantly ignoring our wisdom on recruiting! That Scoop has spoken and this Wojo refuses to listen? Well I say enough!
There is a little-known codicil in the Scoop constitution which gives the men of Scoop unlimited power to preserve order in time of emergency. The time has come for someone to put their foot down. And that foot is us! I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part. And the men of Scoop just the guys to do it!
Now let's have those email addresses!
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Do people here honestly believe Wojo doesn't understand that getting Hill to come is a priority?
I don't think we do that at MU. I know the SEC takes care of recruits in that way on recruiting visits but it's not de rigueur in the Big East as far as I am aware.
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And now we receive word that this new coach is blatantly ignoring our wisdom on recruiting! That Scoop has spoken and this Wojo refuses to listen? Well I say enough!
The first prong of the attack will be comprised of our "Kevin Ollie leaving UCONN Special Forces". They will start the propaganda war, by saying Wojo alienated Buzz's original recruiting class and thus, is on the hot seat. Ollie's name will be the clear favorite to replace Wojo. Of course, Ollie is tired of Calhoun "pulling the strings" and wants to get out from underneath Calhoun's shadow.
Keefe - He will commandeer the 2nd phase of this operation.
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Hill said in the article that he's talked to Wojo just not at length. As I mentioned, maybe Hill couldn't see Wojo until the weekend. Why is everyone assuming it's the other way around? Oh wait, it's Scoop, that's why.
If he has time to drive to Seymour to see Cohen, he should be able to make time to have a lengthy conversation with our most important recruit. I'm going to give Wojo the benefit of the doubt, but it is rather perplexing to me. Only my opinion and I could be way off base.
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If he has time to drive to Seymour to see Cohen, he should be able to make time to have a lengthy conversation with our most important recruit. I'm going to give Wojo the benefit of the doubt, but it is rather perplexing to me.
I'm certain Wojo is relieved by this important development!
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I suggested earlier when this Broeker guy dared challenge our authority and expertise on how to run the Marquette basketball program that we be given his email address. But the Scoop Moderators refused. And while we smelled fear we meekly submitted to their power, however illegitimate those prerogatives might be.
And now we receive word that this new coach is blatantly ignoring our wisdom on recruiting! That Scoop has spoken and this Wojo refuses to listen? Well I say enough!
There is a little-known codicil in the Scoop constitution which gives the men of Scoop unlimited power to preserve order in time of emergency. The time has come for someone to put their foot down. And that foot is us! I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part. And the men of Scoop just the guys to do it!
Now let's have those email addresses!
To quote JJJ, I'm all in!
But I'm thinking warriorchick might not like the spirit of this.
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If he has time to drive to Seymour to see Cohen, he should be able to make time to have a lengthy conversation with our most important recruit. I'm going to give Wojo the benefit of the doubt, but it is rather perplexing to me. Only my opinion and I could be way off base.
Do you live in Wisconsin or Georgia?
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You'd think it would be a priority....instead of someone floating the notion that perhaps Wojo doesn't want Hill. People wouldn't question if Hill's been made a priority if Wojo had already gone to see or talk with Hill at minimum. Fact it took over a week gives the impression that it wasn't put at near the top of the priority list.
One single recruit isn't the priority. Getting to know the 10 guys who are on campus, getting to know the administration, building a staff, creating some offseason structure, moving his family, etc., all matter more.
As solid a player as Hill may be, one guy isn't that important in the grand scheme of things for a coach who's building a program for the next 5+ years (hopefully).
And regardless, Ahmed doesn't seem too wounded by the fact Wojo didn't jump on a plane last week to meet him.
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You'd think it would be a priority....instead of someone floating the notion that perhaps Wojo doesn't want Hill. People wouldn't question if Hill's been made a priority if Wojo had already gone to see or talk with Hill at minimum. Fact it took over a week gives the impression that it wasn't put at near the top of the priority list.
You just making crap up to unsettle nerves in the mass idiot quotient or willfully lying?
Wojo was hired April 1. First day on the job was April 2. This article was published April 4. Wojo likely talked to Hill on April 5 (and at the latest on April 6). Today is April 7 which, as the smart man you are, you know is less then a week since Wojo was hired.
If you want to run around with your hair on fire for not one ounce of logical reasoning then drive to Chicago and meet up with Malek Harris. But doing it in this case? unnatural carnal knowledgeing silly.
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1. Keep in mind this article was written last Friday
2. Keep in mind the article says that he will talk with Hill over the weekend
3. Keep in mind Wojo was hired last Monday and started work on Tuesday.
4. Keep in mind how stressful moving a family from North Carolina to Wisconsin must be
5. Keep in mind the sky is NOT falling
6. Respect the process
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1. Keep in mind this article was written last Friday
2. Keep in mind the article says that he will talk with Hill over the weekend
3. Keep in mind Wojo was hired last Monday and started work on Tuesday.
4. Keep in mind how stressful moving a family from North Carolina to Wisconsin must be
5. Keep in mind the sky is NOT falling
6. Respect the process
The only way to keep the natives in line is to invoke martial law. Take down all Hill posts until a legitimate news source brings quality information on the "situation". Otherwise, we risk losing the lower provinces.
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Given that people are pointing out that the article was written last Friday and they were going to talk this weekend, do we have any middle-aged men stalking every Twitter word Ahmed posts? Any, "I'm all in" Tweets, which clearly can only mean 1 thing in the mind of a teenage boy, that he is clearly all in on Wojo's program and sticking with Marquette?
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Do people here honestly believe Wojo doesn't understand that getting Hill to come is a priority?
Duh! Many know more about everything than Wojo.
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As far as current recruits who have signed a NLI... this is excellent news.
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Keefe, still chuckling! You would fit in well on our middle-aged-men-who-went-to-grade-school-together-and-recreate-those-times golf trip.
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In other news.......
The first survivor of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 is found by keefe in the Indian Ocean.
That is probably Keefe below water with his underwater camera, snapping away. Look at the gal's distress--obviously he is getting too close for her liking.
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And that foot is us!
Best description of Scoop ever.
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Now let's have those email addresses!
I seem to recall that all the administration email addresses and phone numbers were posted in one of the threads during Shaka Watch, but I'm too lazy to dig through 2000 pages to find it.
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When Crean left Taylor and Williams had no interest in talking to Buzz. Our current recruits seem more willing to talk to Wojo.
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Given that people are pointing out that the article was written last Friday and they were going to talk this weekend, do we have any middle-aged men stalking every Twitter word Ahmed posts? Any, "I'm all in" Tweets, which clearly can only mean 1 thing in the mind of a teenage boy, that he is clearly all in on Wojo's program and sticking with Marquette?
That, and Saturday Ahmed Hill posted an Instagram picture of himself wearing a Marquette University lanyard.........
http://instagram.com/p/mbac9TB_8x/#
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And that foot is us!
I thought it was a big toe thing, like Sgt. Hulka
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Given that people are pointing out that the article was written last Friday and they were going to talk this weekend, do we have any middle-aged men stalking every Twitter word Ahmed posts? Any, "I'm all in" Tweets, which clearly can only mean 1 thing in the mind of a teenage boy, that he is clearly all in on Wojo's program and sticking with Marquette?
Respect the process
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When Crean left Taylor and Williams had no interest in talking to Buzz. Our current recruits seem more willing to talk to Wojo.
Well, Taylor did meet with Buzz but he wasn't able to keep him. They met on that Friday, Taylor said he was open to talking to Brent but didn't know how Brent would be as a head coach. Ultimately he left.
Bob Hurley said: "He was going to go to Marquette because of Tom Crean. Now, my player and Marquette University don't have the same connection. I don't hold this personally. This is not a Tom Crean and Bob Hurley problem. This is about Tyshawn Taylor and the next step in a 17-year-old's life."
"When it comes down to it, Coach Williams has only been a basketball coach for one year," Hurley said. "We sat down for a couple hours, he talked to Ty and he spoke to me for an hour and a half. And at the end of that, he still had only coached for one year."
"Looking at Marquette's roster, there's going to be a big logjam now in the backcourt but we kind of figured Tom Crean would be able to handle a situation like this, but we are talking about a guy who coached at the University of New Orleans for one year, and that's his head coaching experience."
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The Tyshawn Taylor situation had nothing to do with Buzz Williams and his lack of experience.
It was all about Kansas taking the opening that was there when Crean left to get a player, and Taylor (and Hurley) making the correct assessment that Kansas > Marquette.
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The Tyshawn Taylor situation had nothing to do with Buzz Williams and his lack of experience.
It was all about Kansas taking the opening that was there when Crean left to get a player, and Taylor (and Hurley) making the correct assessment that Kansas > Marquette.
Bob Hurley and Tyshawn Taylor....YOU ARE LIARS
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Bob Hurley and Tyshawn Taylor....YOU ARE LIARS
Point plankn.
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The Tyshawn Taylor situation had nothing to do with Buzz Williams and his lack of experience.
It was all about Kansas taking the opening that was there when Crean left to get a player, and Taylor (and Hurley) making the correct assessment that Kansas > Marquette.
+1. Common knowledge that Kansas was Ty's dream school. They never offered but had a scollie open up in the spring with an early entry into the NBA. Marquette had no chance no matter who was our coach. Chicos would flunk a lie detector test if he said otherwise.
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+1. Common knowledge that Kansas was Ty's dream school. They never offered but had a scollie open up in the spring with an early entry into the NBA. Marquette had no chance no matter who was our coach. Chicos would flunk a lie detector test if he said otherwise.
Bob Hurley knows what he's doing. I bet if TC was still at MU that spring BH would have secured a TT release for 2 players to be named later.
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That, and Saturday Ahmed Hill posted an Instagram picture of himself wearing a Marquette University lanyard.........
http://instagram.com/p/mbac9TB_8x/#
Boom. Wojo probably overnighted it with FedEx first class shipping.
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Boom. Wojo probably overnighted it with FedEx first class shipping.
One of those fat, thick SEC Specials?
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Well, Taylor did meet with Buzz but he wasn't able to keep him. They met on that Friday, Taylor said he was open to talking to Brent but didn't know how Brent would be as a head coach. Ultimately he left.
Bob Hurley said: "He was going to go to Marquette because of Tom Crean. Now, my player and Marquette University don't have the same connection. I don't hold this personally. This is not a Tom Crean and Bob Hurley problem. This is about Tyshawn Taylor and the next step in a 17-year-old's life."
"When it comes down to it, Coach Williams has only been a basketball coach for one year," Hurley said. "We sat down for a couple hours, he talked to Ty and he spoke to me for an hour and a half. And at the end of that, he still had only coached for one year."
"Looking at Marquette's roster, there's going to be a big logjam now in the backcourt but we kind of figured Tom Crean would be able to handle a situation like this, but we are talking about a guy who coached at the University of New Orleans for one year, and that's his head coaching experience."
I've never understood what Bob Hurley did wrong here. He did what was in the best interest of Tyshawn Taylor. That is Hurley's job and nothing else. Hurley owed nothing to MU or Brent Williams or Tom Crean. Taylor was his responsibility and that's it. I have tremendous respect for Bob Hurley.
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I've never understood what Bob Hurley did wrong here. He did what was in the best interest of Tyshawn Taylor. That is Hurley's job and nothing else. Hurley owed nothing to MU or Brent Williams or Tom Crean. Taylor was his responsibility and that's it. I have tremendous respect for Bob Hurley.
He should have understood MU's policy with releases, and not gone to the media right away. That's what he did wrong.
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I've never understood what Bob Hurley did wrong here. He did what was in the best interest of Tyshawn Taylor. That is Hurley's job and nothing else. Hurley owed nothing to MU or Brent Williams or Tom Crean. Taylor was his responsibility and that's it. I have tremendous respect for Bob Hurley.
I don't disagree. People were ticked off, obviously, but he was TT's adviser on this and that's what he advised. Brent was totally unknown quantity.
The problem I have with the revisionist history about KU and others is that suggests if TC was still at MU, then TT wasn't coming. That couldn't be further from the truth. TT was coming to MU. A coaching change happened, that opened the doors for him to leave. If TC doesn't go, TT is playing for Marquette. One domino had to fall before the other, but it appears some want to change the order of things.
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Between this and the Henry Ellenson thread some people have very quickly developed a Vadger-esque sense of entitlement about what they think the team needs and our new coach.
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I've never understood what Bob Hurley did wrong here. He did what was in the best interest of Tyshawn Taylor. That is Hurley's job and nothing else. Hurley owed nothing to MU or Brent Williams or Tom Crean. Taylor was his responsibility and that's it. I have tremendous respect for Bob Hurley.
I think his only fault was going to the press and talking as though MU was holding Taylor hostage, instead of letting the process work itself through.
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+1. Common knowledge that Kansas was Ty's dream school. They never offered but had a scollie open up in the spring with an early entry into the NBA. Marquette had no chance no matter who was our coach. Chicos would flunk a lie detector test if he said otherwise.
Not to mention playing time was greater for Tyshawn at Kansas that year. He immediately got minutes, not sure he would have at Marquette. Elite program + PT? Can't blame him for his decision.
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I don't disagree. People were ticked off, obviously, but he was TT's adviser on this and that's what he advised. Brent was totally unknown quantity.
The problem I have with the revisionist history about KU and others is that suggests if TC was still at MU, then TT wasn't coming. That couldn't be further from the truth. TT was coming to MU. A coaching change happened, that opened the doors for him to leave. If TC doesn't go, TT is playing for Marquette. One domino had to fall before the other, but it appears some want to change the order of things.
Who suggested this?
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I'm middle-aged, a stout polish lad and available for stalking on twitter or other nefarious forms of electronic monitoring.
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I don't disagree. People were ticked off, obviously, but he was TT's adviser on this and that's what he advised. Brent was totally unknown quantity.
The problem I have with the revisionist history about KU and others is that suggests if TC was still at MU, then TT wasn't coming. That couldn't be further from the truth. TT was coming to MU. A coaching change happened, that opened the doors for him to leave. If TC doesn't go, TT is playing for Marquette. One domino had to fall before the other, but it appears some want to change the order of things.
Doesn't matter.
TC wasn't at MU any longer, so the whole thing is moot; Hurley trashed a coach with one year of experience just because the coach had only one year of experience; and TT went to Kansas.
Now, TT is a Maine Red Claw; Hurley is still a high school coach; Buzz took less money to go to an inferior job; and TC is one more bad year away from being the former coach at both Indiana and Marquette.
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+1. Common knowledge that Kansas was Ty's dream school. They never offered but had a scollie open up in the spring with an early entry into the NBA. Marquette had no chance no matter who was our coach. Chicos would flunk a lie detector test if he said otherwise.
Bob Hurley and TT are LIARS...again!! So says Lenny.
Uhm, by the way, TT played 4 years at KU...not sure what you are talking about with an early entry to the NBA.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas/tyshawn-taylor
MU had NO chance no matter who our coach was?....interesting. Coach K becomes MU coach, MU has no chance. Coach Self becomes MU coach, MU has no chance. Never. Always. Blah blah blah.
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Who suggested this?
Lens has several times, so have a few others. He may have been joking, always hard to tell here.
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Bob Hurley and TT are LIARS...again!! So says Lenny.
Uhm, by the way, TT played 4 years at KU...not sure what you are talking about with an early entry to the NBA.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas/tyshawn-taylor
MU had NO chance no matter who our coach was?....interesting. Coach K becomes MU coach, MU has no chance. Coach Self becomes MU coach, MU has no chance. Never. Always. Blah blah blah.
Tyshawn is on Twitter: Why not ask him? https://twitter.com/tyshawntaylor
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Now, TT is a Maine Red Claw; Hurley is still a high school coach; Buzz took less money to go to an inferior job; and TC is one more bad year away from being the former coach at both Indiana and Marquette.
A land bereft of hope...where dreams drift off into a monotonous languor...
(http://dada.warped.com/movies/08177inferno.jpg)
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Tyshawn is on Twitter: Why not ask him? https://twitter.com/tyshawntaylor
I believe that would be for Lenny to do. He's the one making the predictions.
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Maybe it means nothing or maybe it means everything but Coach Wojo is following Sandy Cohen (@sandycohenIII) & Nick Noskowiak (@nicknoskowiak) but not Ahmed Hill (@medhill_14) or Marial Shayok (@supermarial03)
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Maybe it means nothing or maybe it means everything but Coach Wojo is following Sandy Cohen (@sandycohenIII) & Nick Noskowiak (@nicknoskowiak) but not Ahmed Hill (@medhill_14) or Marial Shayok (@supermarial03)
Respect the Process.
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Maybe it means nothing or maybe it means everything but Coach Wojo is following Sandy Cohen (@sandycohenIII) & Nick Noskowiak (@nicknoskowiak) but not Ahmed Hill (@medhill_14) or Marial Shayok (@supermarial03)
See Jill's tweets, what's to follow. When he starts tweeting again, he will follow.
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Lens has several times, so have a few others. He may have been joking, always hard to tell here.
After TC left I had a conversation with someone who always has TC's back. That person said Buzz eventually became the lead recruiter on TT in part bc during TT's visit over Midnight Madness, TT was "sulking in a corner" and Buzz went over and changed his whole weekend. He said the relationship he had with Buzz was great.
Mind you the person who told me this is always in the tank for TC so it's not like he was trying to pump up Buzz.
I just have always believed the Bob Hurley was going to say whatever he needed to to get TT to Kansas. That probably speaks more to the opinion I have about Bob Sr than TC.
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See Jill's tweets, what's to follow. When he starts tweeting again, he will follow.
Who is Jill?
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Mind you the person who told me this is always in the tank for TC so it's not like he was trying to pump up Buzz.
Chicos?? ;D
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Bob Hurley and TT are LIARS...again!! So says Lenny.
Uhm, by the way, TT played 4 years at KU...not sure what you are talking about with an early entry to the NBA.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas/tyshawn-taylor
MU had NO chance no matter who our coach was?....interesting. Coach K becomes MU coach, MU has no chance. Coach Self becomes MU coach, MU has no chance. Never. Always. Blah blah blah.
Pretty sure he was saying that they had a scholarship open for Taylor in the spring because SOMEONE ELSE left early to go to the NBA.
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Who is Jill?
An Insider?
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tweets today (attached)
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tweets today (attached)
Are we sure this is about basketball? He lives in Augusta and maybe the crowds building for the Masters are getting to him?
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Are we sure this is about basketball? He lives in Augusta and maybe the crowds building for the Masters are getting to him?
probably can't find parking at the airport
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The dude took a pic of himself (THE KIDS CALL 'EM SELFIES!) and he was wearing a Northface hoodie and khakis. If we lose this kid to anywhere it's gonna be Miami, OH.
I like our chances.
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See Jill's tweets, what's to follow. When he starts tweeting again, he will follow.
Well there goes your theory. Ahmed is tweeting again and Coach Wojo is still not following him.
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Well there goes your theory. Ahmed is tweeting again and Coach Wojo is still not following him.
Start the letter writing campaign!!!!!!!
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tweets today (attached)
This is a little creepy...
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This is a little creepy...
Does this mean you're going to leave scoop for the scout voard?
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After TC left I had a conversation with someone who always has TC's back. That person said Buzz eventually became the lead recruiter on TT in part bc during TT's visit over Midnight Madness, TT was "sulking in a corner" and Buzz went over and changed his whole weekend. He said the relationship he had with Buzz was great.
Mind you the person who told me this is always in the tank for TC so it's not like he was trying to pump up Buzz.
I just have always believed the Bob Hurley was going to say whatever he needed to to get TT to Kansas. That probably speaks more to the opinion I have about Bob Sr than TC.
That may be the case, then he would have had to sit out a year because no way MU was going to release him from his LOI without a coaching change. I doubt very much he would do that. The next question is whether anyone like KU would wait for TT considering they get TT kind of players each and every year.
Unlikely.
Am I surprised that one of these prima donnas was sulking in the corner, however? No.