Definitely, one of the all time greatest coaching performances in the NCAA tourney. Donovan outcoached with the smaller lineup. Very impressive run for UCONN. Brad Stevens' Butler teams are my other choices as well.
Does Ollie bolt to a better conference?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 05, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
Does Ollie bolt to a better conference?
No - U Conn is his dream job.
Ollie totally schooled Donovan. Amazing game for UConn.
Actually, it's more about the three Calhoun recruits: Napier, Daniels and Boatwright. These guys are good.
Booze didn't want Nolan, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 05, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
Does Ollie bolt to a better conference?
Yup, Western conference.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 05, 2014, 07:57:19 PM
Booze didn't want Nolan, aina?
He wanted us but 5 high schools in four year was a red flag.
Montrele Clark still has eligibility. Should Wojo sign him?
Coaching? Bazz is carrying this team.
Even though I don't think he's as good as he used to be when he was doing columns/mailbags only, the latest Bill Simmons mailbag had one reader suggest that Kevin Ollie could go to the Thunder here in a couple years. Could DEFINITELY see that, as it sounds like KD has a great deal of admiration towards Ollie and what he meant to him his first couple years in the league.
Ollie did a great job but I think Calhoun had alot of input in that game and the adjustments. Calhoun is basically still the coach behind the curtain.
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 01:34:48 AM
Ollie did a great job but I think Calhoun had alot of input in that game and the adjustments. Calhoun is basically still the coach behind the curtain.
I didn't see Calhoun on the bench at all. How does he communicate strategy to Ollie? Does he use an earpiece like the secret service?
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 01:34:48 AM
Ollie did a great job but I think Calhoun had alot of input in that game and the adjustments. Calhoun is basically still the coach behind the curtain.
I respectfully disagree.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 01:36:45 AM
I didn't see Calhoun on the bench at all. How does he communicate strategy to Ollie? Does he use an earpiece like the secret service?
Iphone, texting. 21st century, there's alot of technology. Plus it's not hard to walk down to the U-Con lockerroom at half either. Though, most of the strategy, scenarios and adjustments would have happened in the pre game prep during the week. I mean really, if you were Ollie why wouldn't use a resource like Calhoun in developing a game plan. It would be pretty silly not to. Even the announcers said that Calhoun probably had a big part in Ollie's adjustments and game plan.
You have to remember Calhoun had to step down when he did because of the APR and probation issues. It wasn't because he wanted to retire or stop coaching. That was the word on the street.
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 01:42:35 AM
Iphone, texting. 21st century, there's alot of technology. Plus it's not hard to walk down to the U-Con lockerroom at half either. Though, most of the strategy, scenarios and adjustments would have happened in the pre game prep during the week. I mean really, if you were Ollie why wouldn't use a resource like Calhoun in developing a game plan. It would be pretty silly not to. Even the announcers said that Calhoun probably had a big part in Ollie's adjustments and game plan.
You have to remember Calhoun had to step down when he did because of the APR and probation issues. It wasn't because he wanted to retire or stop coaching. That was the word on the street.
That is a bogus conspiracy theory. Ollie is good friends with Calhoun and he leans on him to get advice, not coach a game. It's called being a mentor and that's what a mentor does. It happens all the time. It's called coachspeak. You can't coach a game from the stands. Plus, I bet Calhoun barely knows even how to text.
What you say is absolutely absurd. Ollie outcoached Donovan and Izzo. Hopefully, he takes out the greaseball Calipari on Monday. Guess what? I'm sure he'll ask Calhoun's opinions on the game plan as well. Why wouldn't you use a source like that to critique?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 01:48:14 AM
That is a bogus conspiracy theory. Ollie is good friends with Calhoun and he leans on him to get advice, not coach a game. It's called being a mentor and that's what a mentor does. It happens all the time. It's called coachspeak. You can't coach a game from the stands. Plus, I bet Calhoun barely knows even how to text.
What you say is absolutely absurd. Ollie outcoached Donovan and Izzo. Hopefully, he takes out the greaseball Calipari on Monday. Guess what? I'm sure he'll ask Calhoun's opinions on the game plan as well. Why wouldn't you use a source like that to critique?
So you are basically agreeing with me. Why get so defensive over Kevin Ollie anyway.
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 01:51:03 AM
So you are basically agreeing with me. Why get so defensive over Kevin Ollie anyway.
I'm not agreeing with you. You're saying Calhoun is coaching the game. I'm saying that Ollie speaks to him after games whenever they get together or talk on the phone. There's a difference.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 01:52:32 AM
I'm not agreeing with you. You're saying Calhoun is coaching the game. I'm saying that Ollie speaks to him after games whenever they get together or talk on the phone. There's a difference.
Look at what I originally said. I gave credit to Ollie but said that Calhoun had a big part in the game plan and adjustments. Even the announcers said that during the game.
It's pretty obvious. Maybe you are a huge UConn and Kevin Ollie fan, i dunno but it seems like you are offended by what I said which seems strange considering this is a Marquette board.
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 01:56:03 AM
Look at what I originally said. I gave credit to Ollie but said that Calhoun had a big part in the game plan and adjustments. Even the announcers said that during the game.
It's pretty obvious. Maybe you are a huge UConn and Kevin Ollie fan, i dunno but it seems like you are offended by what I said which seems strange considering this is a Marquette board.
You said Calhoun is the coach behind the curtain. That's not true at all. He's a mentor and that's it. A coach is someone on the sidelines calling plays, making substitutions, managing the game. It's impossible to coach from the stands as you indicate. Ollie made the move to go with 3 guards on his own. That wasn't Calhoun. To take away anything from Ollie is ridiculous. You act as if he's incompetent and not running the team at all.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 02:02:25 AM
You said Calhoun is the coach behind the curtain. That's not true at all. He's a mentor and that's it. A coach is someone on the sidelines calling plays, making substitutions, managing the game. It's impossible to coach from the stands as you indicate. Ollie made the move to go with 3 guards on his own. That wasn't Calhoun. To take away anything from Ollie is ridiculous. You act as if he's incompetent and not running the team at all.
Are you a UConn or Kevin Ollie fan? Yes or No.
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 02:03:07 AM
Are you a UConn or Kevin Ollie fan? Yes or No.
I'm a fan of the truth.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 02:04:04 AM
I'm a fan of the truth.
That's an evasion.
Are you a fan of UConn or Kevin Ollie? Just answer the question.
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 02:04:44 AM
That's an evasion.
Are you a fan of UConn or Kevin Ollie? Just answer the question.
Always hated Jim Calhoun.
Kevin Ollie - Indifferent.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 02:07:53 AM
Always hated Jim Calhoun.
Kevin Ollie - Indifferent.
What about UConn?
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 02:08:18 AM
What about UConn?
Never cared for them and really despised them when they were in the Big East. Thabeet really got under my skin at times.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 02:11:30 AM
Never cared for them and really despised them when they were in the Big East. Thabeet really got under my skin at times.
I see. So you are basically just guessing what Calhoun and Ollie game planned for in this game as well. It's not like you have some information or talked to them or anything.
My point is that I suspect that Calhoun had a big part in game planning on how to play Florida. Especially against the size advantage. You have to admit the strategy to go small with the 3 guards was brilliant and you know, just IMO a man with such vast knowledge on the game would probably be the one to impart this strategy to his protege you know. Kind of like "well if we are getting crushed by the Florida bigs, then we have to go small, Kevin".
Like I said, the announcers believed Calhoun had alot to do with the strategy and adjustments as well so it's not like I'm saying anything new.
We will just have to agree to disagree.
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 02:18:10 AM
I see. So you are basically just guessing what Calhoun and Ollie game planned for in this game as well. It's not like you have some information or talked to them or anything.
My point is that I suspect that Calhoun had a big part in game planning on how to play Florida. Especially against the size advantage. You have to admit the strategy to go small with the 3 guards was brilliant and you know, just IMO a man with such vast knowledge on the game would probably be the one to impart this strategy to his protege you know. Kind of like "well if we are getting crushed by the Florida bigs, then we have to go small, Kevin".
Like I said, the announcers believed Calhoun had alot to do with the strategy and adjustments as well so it's not like I'm saying anything new.
We will just have to agree to disagree.
The strategy was done in game and not at the half. There's no way Calhoun could have made the adjustment. To say that he has that much control is ludicrous. There's no way he can manage a game from the stands like that. I believe it's time to get a decent Uconn poster in here to help solve this issue.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/ollie-calhoun-mentor-uconn-coach-article-1.1741253
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 02:22:57 AM
The strategy was done in game and not at the half. There's no way Calhoun could have made the adjustment. To say that he has that much control is ludicrous. There's no way he can manage a game from the stands like that. I believe it's time to get a decent Uconn poster in here to help solve this issue.
Game planning would usually take place before the game you know. They had an entire week to prepare for this game. You would use that time to talk about strategy, different scenarios and what adjustments would have to be made. I doubt it was a spur of the moment decision by Ollie. More likely these scenarios and adjustments would have been talked about with the staff and players
during the week regardless of whether Calhoun was involved or not. That's just common sense and what a good coaching staff would do, especially with a week to prepare.
I'm not sure why you are so adamant that only Kevin Ollie get the glory. I do now see that you are the thread starter so that's probably why you are so heated but you do have to allow for a difference of opinion. I'm giving credit to both Kevin Ollie and Jim Calhoun. At the end of the day they are the same coaching tree and program so I doubt they really care who gets the credit anyway.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 02:28:11 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/ollie-calhoun-mentor-uconn-coach-article-1.1741253
Byline: April 1st, 2014.
LOL. Just kidding.
That article really doesn't answer any of our questions though. If anything it reaffirms that Calhoun still has alot to do with the program and is in Ollie's ear.
Kevin Ollie, " "(Calhoun) has been a great resource for us. He's an ambassador. He built this program.
So I'd be a fool not to use him. But at the end of the day I have to make my decision on what I think is best."
Ollie's basically admitting that he uses Calhoun.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 07:25:45 PM
Definitely, one of the all time greatest coaching performances in the NCAA tourney. Donovan outcoached with the smaller lineup. Very impressive run for UCONN. Brad Stevens' Butler teams are my other choices as well.
Just shows what can happen when you promote a former player and alumni to the HC job. Just sayin'.
Quote from: HoyaPotter on April 06, 2014, 01:34:48 AM
Ollie did a great job but I think Calhoun had alot of input in that game and the adjustments. Calhoun is basically still the coach behind the curtain.
Respectin' the process, hey?
Ditto! Calhoun and Calipari are crooks.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 06, 2014, 06:11:16 AM
Respectin' the process, hey?
Calhoun & Ollie In Game Adjustments #DoneDeal
It's really said that a once storied program like UConn had to settle, like Marquette, for a guy without head coaching experience. Just screams stepping stone.
This is one of the dumber arguments I have seen on Scoop
Quote from: Pakuni on April 06, 2014, 09:08:32 AM
It's really said that a once storied program like UConn had to settle, like Marquette, for a guy without head coaching experience. Just screams stepping stone.
Except UCONN coaches don't leave UCONN every five years like Marquette coaches do. He's also doing this all with Calhoun's guys. We'll see how he does in a few more years.
Don't forget how many UCONN fans wanted him out last year and the beginning of this year for not being Calhoun.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 11:08:01 AM
Except UCONN coaches don't leave UCONN every five years like Marquette coaches do. He's also doing this all with Calhoun's guys. We'll see how he does in a few more years.
Don't forget how many UCONN fans wanted him out last year and the beginning of this year for not being Calhoun.
Calhoun has the winning recruiting formula for today's college basketball. It's all about guard play, and UCONN has the best guards in the nation. It will be interesting to see how they get up under Kentucky, who has a serious height advantage in the guard department. I'm thinking Kentucky, will be disrupted and the Harrison's stint as "the icing on the cake" for Kentucky comes to an end with abysmal play. Kentucky is going to turn the ball over a lot and that will be the difference in the game, despite Kentucky overpowering UCONN down low.
The biggest difference between Calhoun era and Ollie era is that UConn actually runs an offense now. The real difference will show up in future years when we will see if Ollie can recruit as well as Calhoun did. I think Ollie did a fine job coaching and all, but UConn won that game because those two guards (Boatright and Napier) are real defensive stoppers and they disrupted everything Florida was trying to do. Wilbekin could not do anything.
I have a weird relationship with UConn in that I really like them except when I hate them. I hated them during the Stanley Robinson and Jerome Dyson years and that year when they had all those NBA guys and lost to George Mason. That is the team we killed when Novak went nuts. That was the most talented UConn team ever but they were all counting the NBA money and didn't care like they should have. Anyway, as an MU fan, there is no team I liked beating better than UConn, but I generally root for them whenever their success does not get in MU's way.
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 06, 2014, 11:50:28 AM
The biggest difference between Calhoun era and Ollie era is that UConn actually runs an offense now. The real difference will show up in future years when we will see if Ollie can recruit as well as Calhoun did. I think Ollie did a fine job coaching and all, but UConn won that game because those two guards (Boatright and Napier) are real defensive stoppers and they disrupted everything Florida was trying to do. Wilbekin could not do anything.
I have a weird relationship with UConn in that I really like them except when I hate them. I hated them during the Stanley Robinson and Jerome Dyson years and that year when they had all those NBA guys and lost to George Mason. That is the team we killed when Novak went nuts. That was the most talented UConn team ever but they were all counting the NBA money and didn't care like they should have. Anyway, as an MU fan, there is no team I liked beating better than UConn, but I generally root for them whenever their success does not get in MU's way.
They've been an exciting team to watch. It shows you how much a decent guard can transform your team on both ends of the floor. Napier's lob passes against Florida, were amazing. In terms of defense, he's omniscient.
I find it amusing that there are people that think Calhoun is still coaching the team in the stands. Ollie is definitely the inspiration behind this team. Nonetheless, you can tell the that the mentor, wants to help Ollie out so much.... like a son's first time on a two-wheel bike.
Rooting for Uconn on Monday. They are fun to watch, and I just cannot stand Calipari's fake aura.
Guard's game
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 06, 2014, 10:29:08 AM
This is one of the dumber arguments I have seen on Scoop
+1000
Had Ollie still been an assistant under Calhoun this year, I wonder how many Scoopers would have thought it a good thing if we had hired Ollie as Buzz's replacement.
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2014, 12:07:56 PM
Had Ollie still been an assistant under Calhoun this year, I wonder how many Scoopers would have thought it a good thing if we had hired Ollie as Buzz's replacement.
I've already seen posts inquiring who's going to hire Ollie after Monday night. Ridiculous.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 12:18:12 PM
I've already seen posts inquiring who's going to hire Ollie after Monday night. Ridiculous.
Hey, I was just throwing out a discussion point. And I certainly have been called worse things than ridiculous!
BTW, and not just saying this to diffuse the situation or blow smoke up your butt, I've liked a lot of your posts. You have a good sense of humor and the right attitude.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 11:14:57 AM
Calhoun has the winning recruiting formula for today's college basketball. It's all about guard play, and UCONN has the best guards in the nation. It will be interesting to see how they get up under Kentucky, who has a serious height advantage in the guard department. I'm thinking Kentucky, will be disrupted and the Harrison's stint as "the icing on the cake" for Kentucky comes to an end with abysmal play. Kentucky is going to turn the ball over a lot and that will be the difference in the game, despite Kentucky overpowering UCONN down low.
Yeah, it's called bag men.
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2014, 12:31:20 PM
Hey, I was just throwing out a discussion point. And I certainly have been called worse things than ridiculous!
BTW, and not just saying this to diffuse the situation or blow smoke up your butt, I've liked a lot of your posts. You have a good sense of humor and the right attitude.
Ass kissing will get you nowhere with Deane..... :P
If it was a discussion point, then fine. It's just one of those things that won't happen though. It's only his 2nd year of coaching as a head coach. 3rd overall.
Nonetheless, if you're talking NBA, that's a different story. I'm already seeing the media swarm on Ollie to be the next Lakers coach. -200 points for the information age.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 12:37:43 PM
Ass kissing will get you nowhere with Deane..... :P
If it was a discussion point, then fine. It's just one of those things that won't happen though. It's only his 2nd year of coaching as a head coach. 3rd overall.
Nonetheless, if you're talking NBA, that's a different story. I'm already seeing the media swarm on Ollie to be the next Lakers coach. -200 points for the information age.
Appropos of nothing ...
When my kids were about 7 and 8 years old, we were visiting my old campus and I decided to take them to the Old Gym to see if we could observe a practice.
I fully intended to ask for permission, but there was nobody there to ask and the door was wide open, so in we went.
We just sat their quietly while Deane ran practice. There was nothing quiet about him, though.
Put it this way: He was no K.O., but my kiddies learned a few new words that day!