I wasn't sure how optimistic to be when word came out that it was Wojo. I was a bit disappointed it wasn't Howland, relieved it wasn't Martin, but just not sure what would happen with Wojo.
Well, in just over 24 hours, he has turned me from cautiously optimistic to excited for the future. Great press conference, praise from all over the basketball world, and now indications that the entire roster will indeed be back! Wow.
It will be interesting to see what Wojo can do with the incoming recruits, especially Hill and Cohen, but I am optimistic.
He still has lots of work to do, but the beginning has been amazing. Way to go, Coach Wojo!
Homer only gave him a B+. He must be a tougher grader.
Right on. If all the players do stay on, who would have predicted it? Great start by recruiting the guys here first.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 02, 2014, 08:54:08 PM
Homer only gave him a B+. He must be a tougher grader.
After slurping all of Brent's decisions in the past year, even pre-emptively slurping in post-game interviews after losses...his opinion is invalid.
Great start to keep the current players on board. MU is bigger than Buzz and it is being proven by the current players staying and hopefully the committed recruits take notice.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 02, 2014, 08:54:08 PM
Homer only gave him a B+. He must be a tougher grader.
What really matters is what grade Thunder gave him.
Quote from: GOO on April 02, 2014, 08:55:19 PM
Right on. If all the players do stay on, who would have predicted it? Great start by recruiting the guys here first.
Certainly not if Brent stayed
So buzz has a transfer every year, sometimes 2. He leaves and not one player transfers. Case closed. Guy was a phony.
Most first years coaches run several old players out to open up spots. They want their own players. Nature of the game. What makes you think Wojo will keep them all?
Quote from: willie warrior on April 02, 2014, 08:54:08 PM
Homer only gave him a B+. He must be a tougher grader.
Well that's great. I give Homer a D on his "middle school-esque" battery of interview questions today. As far as Thunder goes, I wouldn't be too concerned about him if his car broke down on the northside, around 2 am.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 02, 2014, 09:13:07 PM
Well that's great. I give Homer a D on his "middle school-esque" battery of interview questions today. As far as Thunder goes, I wouldn't be too concerned about him if his car broke down on the northside, around 2 am.
Guess that's why they call him Homer.
Quote from: ecc5051 on April 02, 2014, 09:12:17 PM
Most first years coaches run several old players out to open up spots. They want their own players. Nature of the game. What makes you think Wojo will keep them all?
True. I expect at least 1 current and a couple recruits to not be here next year
How many left when Brent assumed the head coach job at Marquette?
Christopherson, Mbakwe, Tyshawn Taylor....
If keeps Hill and gets Stone than he gets an "A"
otherwise it is undecided for know.
Quote from: atk13thst on April 03, 2014, 06:20:15 AM
True. I expect at least 1 current and a couple recruits to not be here next year
What current player? As of yesterday, they all said they're coming back.
Quote from: bobnoxious on April 03, 2014, 07:53:41 AM
Christopherson, Mbakwe, Tyshawn Taylor....
Current players that left when Brent took over ...
Christopherson, Mbakwe
Recruits that left when Brent took over ...
Tyshawn Taylor, Nick Williams, Mo Creek (?), Damian Saunders (?)
Forgot about Nick Williams, didnt he get sh*t canned by I4 in bloomington as well?
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 03, 2014, 08:24:54 AM
Current players that left when Brent took over ...
Christopherson, Mbakwe
Recruits that left when Brent took over ...
Tyshawn Taylor, Nick Williams, Mo Creek (?), Damian Saunders (?)
Damian Saunders was a couple of years earlier when DJ didn't go pro. Crean oversigned, Dominic stayed, Damian gave MU an excuse to not sign him, he ended up at Duquesne where he did OK. Mo Creek was theoretical. TT and Nick Williams had both signed and were let out of their LOI's.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on April 03, 2014, 07:54:33 AM
If keeps Hill and gets Stone than he gets an "A"
otherwise it is undecided for know.
Now I know.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on April 03, 2014, 07:54:33 AM
If keeps Hill and gets Stone than he gets an "A"
otherwise it is undecided for know.
You may be right, but Homer is not that deep of a thinker.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 03, 2014, 08:12:37 AM
What current player? As of yesterday, they all said they're coming back.
I thought JJJ was going to take time to think it over.
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 03, 2014, 08:24:54 AM
Current players that left when Brent took over ...
Christopherson, Mbakwe
Recruits that left when Brent took over ...
Tyshawn Taylor, Nick Williams, Mo Creek (?), Damian Saunders (?)
Add Pat Hazel to that list
Quote from: "The Bull" in a China Shop on April 03, 2014, 09:10:14 AM
I thought JJJ was going to take time to think it over.
He tweeted "I'm all in" last night. There are 3 threads on it further down. Of course, it's an assumption he means he's coming back, but we probably won't get anything more clear for awhile.
Quote from: swoopem on April 03, 2014, 09:17:08 AM
Add Pat Hazel to that list
Hazel played Buzz's first year and then transferred. Mark him as staying when Crean left.
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 03, 2014, 08:24:54 AM
Tyshawn Taylor, Nick Williams, Mo Creek (?), Damian Saunders (?)
Taylor went to Kansas when a scholarship opened up at his dream school (Kansas). Nick Williams (recruited as the "next Dwyane Wade) followed TC to Indiana, stayed 1 year and transferred to Mississippi. Mo Creek was in the following year's recruiting class. Went to IU, really good freshman year followed by 2 marred by injury. Transferred to George Washington and had a solid senior season leading them to the NCAAs. Damian Saunders came earlier and was Crean's DJ Newbill. We over signed and came up with a bogus excuse (he met NCAA standards but not MU's - LOL) to Crean him.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 03, 2014, 09:50:42 AM
Taylor went to Kansas when a scholarship opened up at his dream school (Kansas). Nick Williams (recruited as the "next Dwyane Wade) followed TC to Indiana, stayed 1 year and transferred to Mississippi. Mo Creek was in the following year's recruiting class. Went to IU, really good freshman year followed by 2 marred by injury. Transferred to George Washington and had a solid senior season leading them to the NCAAs. Damian Saunders came earlier and was Crean's DJ Newbill. We over signed and came up with a bogus excuse (he met NCAA standards but not MU's - LOL) to Crean him.
Missing one important piece to that comparison: Saunders was peripherally involved in a situation that gave Crean wiggle room; Newbill wasn't remotely close to a situation that gave Buzz wiggle room. Newbill was simply asked not to attend the school.
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 03, 2014, 09:31:31 AM
Hazel played Buzz's first year and then transferred. Mark him as staying when Crean left.
I never respected how Buzz criticized him in public.
Saying he would stop practice....for Pat Hazel.
Seems like that should have been kept within the confines of the team.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 03, 2014, 09:54:38 AM
Missing one important piece to that comparison: Saunders was peripherally involved in a situation that gave Crean wiggle room; Newbill wasn't remotely close to a situation that gave Buzz wiggle room. Newbill was simply asked not to attend the school.
Sorry but your wrong. Crean said emphatically that Saunders was not denied do to the previous pot possession charge. He said he was denied due to academics - even though he was (very much unlike D Wade) fully qualified.
It will be interesting to see who, if anyone, hires Howland.
Let's cut Homer a break. He's job description requires him to drink the koolaide and be proud of it.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 03, 2014, 09:59:25 AM
Sorry but your wrong. Crean said emphatically that Saunders was not denied do to the previous pot possession charge. He said he was denied due to academics - even though he was (very much unlike D Wade) fully qualified.
The arrest gave MU and Crean the wiggle room to play the academics angle. Everyone, including even someone like you, knows how important wiggle room is when booting a kid. Buzz didn't learn that until after he booted Newbill.
Quote from: Ruby on April 03, 2014, 10:04:26 AM
Let's cut Homer a break. He's job description requires him to drink the koolaide and be proud of it.
Sure, but when comparing his first Milwaukee radio experience with those in Durham he had to undoubtedly feel it was amateur hour. He actually had a weekly radio show down here with someone who was employed by the athletic department hosting.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 03, 2014, 10:06:00 AM
The arrest gave MU and Crean the wiggle room to play the academics angle. Everyone, including even someone like you, knows how important wiggle room is when booting a kid. Buzz didn't learn that until after he booted Newbill.
BS. Saunders was coming to MU. The marijuana thing was a non issue. So were his academics as he was fully qualified. The trumped up academic charges were no more real than the "he didn't fill out an application" excuse. We didn't have room so we kicked both guys to the curb. Only difference was there was no outrage here when Crean did it.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 03, 2014, 10:16:09 AM
BS. Saunders was coming to MU. The marijuana thing was a non issue. So were his academics as he was fully qualified. The trumped up academic charges were no more real than the "he didn't fill out an application" excuse. We didn't have room so we kicked both guys to the curb. Only difference was there was no outrage here when Crean did it.
I know you're hurting now for being duped by Buzz. In fact, it must kill you for being the exact person you've spent six years ruthlessly mocking. Because of that, I won't antagonize you further.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 03, 2014, 10:29:28 AM
I know you're hurting now for being duped by Buzz. In fact, it must kill you for being the exact person you've spent six years ruthlessly mocking. Because of that, I won't antagonize you further.
LOL - "it" wouldn't kill me. I'd do the job myself.