While Marquette made the best hire they could have from the coaches pool (minus maybe Howland), have they now solidified themselves as a stepping stone for the big colleges. Ie Indiana - duke. What I mean is, when coach K retires, how likely is it that Wojo bolts for Duke. Say this entire head coach job for Wojo is just to get experience as head coach before his inevitable return to Duke?
Those are two different things, in my opinion.
First of all...by hiring an assistant, the admins are building onto the perception that MU is a stepping-stone program. Such is the way of life when your last three hires were assistants and they moved on to other coaching jobs. So yes, MU should still be considered a stepping stone job. But.....you COULD make the argument that every job is a stepping stone job when the end result is one of 7-10 blue-blood jobs (yes, IU counts; no, VT doesn't).
As far as him leaving in five years? Who gives a crap! You can't run a business worrying about hiring a guy that's sooooo good that he's going to leave.
Treat him well, give him a chance to succeed and if he does, hope that he stays around and don't give him a reason to leave. If Wojo is as successful as we all hope he is and he left for a Duke, UNC, etc...in 5-7 years I think we'd all make that trade. Because it means he was successful, and, he had time to build somewhat of a legacy of his own by grooming top quality assistants (if they stay w/him for long here).
Duke will have their pick of any coach they want when K retires. If Wojo is successful enough here over the next 5+ years to be considered for that job, I can live with that.
Plus, maybe Wardle will be ready by then after 5 consecutive Horizon League championships and a NCAA first round upset over Indiana.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 01, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Duke will have their pick of any coach they want when K retires. If Wojo is successful enough here over the next 5+ years to be considered for that job, I can live with that.
Plus, maybe Wardle will be ready by then after 5 consecutive Horizon League championships and a NCAA first round upset over Indiana.
This
If Wojo is such a success here that Duke taps him to take over in 5 years, I'll take that too.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 01, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Duke will have their pick of any coach they want when K retires. If Wojo is successful enough here over the next 5+ years to be considered for that job, I can live with that.
Plus, maybe Wardle will be ready by then after 5 consecutive Horizon League championships and a NCAA first round upset over Indiana.
+ 2 as the other poster said the same thing.
If Wojo moves to the front of the Coach K replacement line in 5 years, we will have had one hell of a 5 year run.
The list of ex-Duke assistants is lengthy enough as it is, not too mention that it will be the biggest opening in ages and is likely to attract NBA types and others from huge programs. Wojo leaving for Duke in 5 years is a problem I hope we have to deal with.
Agree. It'll be a very long line and if he's at the front it's because we've racked up a Final 4 and a couple Elite 8 appearances. We should have it so bad.
Almost certain if chosen to succeed Coach K. I think the idea of "stepping stone" is meaningless. Kansas was a stepping stone for Roy Williams.
As a program it's solid to demonstrate that we've helped several coaches get to a high high level of play with our resources. I'm fine with a new coach every 7-10 years if we're able to get those results.
WHO CARES??!!! You can't worry about what might happen in 5 years, if Coach Wojo is still here then, to me it would seem that he's been doing a good job. Let it go...
I, for one, am excited to have him here and am more worried about what will happen this off-season.
Welcome, Coach Wojo! We Are Marquette!
Quote from: Litehouse on April 01, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Duke will have their pick of any coach they want when K retires. If Wojo is successful enough here over the next 5+ years to be considered for that job, I can live with that.
Plus, maybe Wardle will be ready by then after 5 consecutive Horizon League championships and a NCAA first round upset over Indiana.
Wojo won't just have to be successful here to get the Duke job. He will need to be
Extremely successful. There are going to be a lot of outstanding candidates and being good will not be good enough.
He may even be smart enough (like Roy Williams while at Kansas) to say no to following a legend. That is not a good coaching gig.
With the exception of Al & Hank, we've always been a stepping-stone. Or in the case of Dukiet & Deane, a career ender.
Wojo said in the presser that this scenario was addressed in the interview with Marquette. Wojo says that he intends on being at Marquette for a very long time and that he is a very loyal person. Stressed that he is solely focused on Marquette University. I take him at his word.
Also important to consider the unreal expectations the next Duke coach will have. Who really wants to be the guy to follow coach K?
Who cares as long as the 5 years are successful, the players and fans enjoy the hoops and the program is in good shaper after next 5.
This seems like a solid hire and looking forward to enjoying MU hoops again
If he's successful enough that Duke offers him the job over many over strong candidates, I'll take it. And he would be blameless for taking it. He's been in Durham for 19 of the last 20 years, his wife is a Duke grad, it's the best job there is.
Quote from: WarriorHal on April 01, 2014, 04:19:28 PM
With the exception of Al & Hank, we've always been a stepping-stone. Or in the case of Dukiet & Deane, a career ender.
I'll push back here. Who cares? Other than Badger fans, I never hear that brought up. If we are consistently knocking at the door of Final Fours, what is the constant? The school. The school is bigger than the coach.
I'd also say that being let go from any job is a career ender. If Crean gets the ax at Blue Blood IU, I'd guess it'll be the end of his college coaching days for at least a few years.
Yeah, I know I posted about this concern earlier but I'm going to let it go. If he leaves he leaves. You don't decide not to date a girl because she might someday dump you for a better guy.
Plus, his strong ties to Duke might prevent him from taking other jobs. He's certainly not going to UNC, and possibly not anywhere else in the ACC.
I hate that fucking moniker - "stepping stone". Dumb. The only way you're not a stepping stone? When a coach sticks around. Has nothing to do with hiring assistants. When a coach finally stays, for many years, you finally lose it.
What if we hired a current head coach and he left in a couple years? Still that rep. Hiring an assistant has nothing to do with it.
Also, you think we're a steping stone with buzz stepping to vt? Laughable
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 01, 2014, 04:31:33 PM
Also, you think we're a steping stone with buzz stepping to vt? Laughable
Sounds more like a cliff
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 01, 2014, 04:31:33 PM
I hate that unnatural carnal knowledgeing moniker - "stepping stone". Dumb. The only way you're not a stepping stone? When a coach sticks around. Has nothing to do with hiring assistants. When a coach finally stays, for many years, you finally lose it.
What if we hired a current head coach and he left in a couple years? Still that rep. Hiring an assistant has nothing to do with it.
Also, you think we're a steping stone with buzz stepping to vt? Laughable
Buzz who?
5 years is no big deal, because most coaches are only around for that amount of time at any school.
Quote from: bilsu on April 01, 2014, 04:42:48 PM
5 years is no big deal, because most coaches are only around for that amount of time at any school.
They NEED to stay around for 5 years, though, otherwise nobody would ever know if a coach is good or not.
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 01, 2014, 04:31:33 PM
I hate that unnatural carnal knowledgeing moniker - "stepping stone". Dumb. The only way you're not a stepping stone? When a coach sticks around. Has nothing to do with hiring assistants. When a coach finally stays, for many years, you finally lose it.
What if we hired a current head coach and he left in a couple years? Still that rep. Hiring an assistant has nothing to do with it.
Also, you think we're a steping stone with buzz stepping to vt? Laughable
If we hired a current head coach, it would be seem much more likely as him upgrading himself in the collegiete level, unlike with an assistant and his first job.
As for Buzz leaving to vt, which I never mentioned as a stepping stone, (reading.......) he was almost 100% guaranteed to have been shown the door by Marquette.
Let's not kid ourselves - this is his stepping stone to the next job. Definetly gone in 5
A positive in this is that there is that if he is successful, there would only be 1 school to concern ourselves with vs. the plethora of schools that jumped out each year from his predecessors. I really don't see Wojo jumping to Va Tech anytime soon.....