As an assistant, obviously.
This is probably not news to anyone else, and I know he was involved with past Olympic teams, but that's some pretty cool positive exposure for Marquette and its basketball coach.
Unless Coach K is a d*ck and boots him because he's no longer at Duke.
Aren't they talking about booting the pros from the Olympics in 2016? If so, this could be a major recruiting opportunity.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 01, 2014, 03:35:49 PM
As an assistant, obviously.
This is probably not news to anyone else, and I know he was involved with past Olympic teams, but that's some pretty cool positive exposure for Marquette and its basketball coach.
Unless Coach K is a d*ck and boots him because he's no longer at Duke.
Even if he's not an assistant, he has ties to USA basketball. When it comes to other USA basketball events, outside of the pro's, those ties are still very valuable.
Quote from: Benny B on April 01, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Aren't they talking about booting the pros from the Olympics in 2016? If so, this could be a major recruiting opportunity.
If they boot the pros, collegiate players will play, not high schoolers.
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on April 01, 2014, 03:55:34 PM
If they boot the pros, collegiate players will play, not high schoolers.
And obviously it would be a draw to have your coach being the one making the cuts...
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on April 01, 2014, 03:55:34 PM
If they boot the pros, collegiate players will play, not high schoolers.
"Hey Diamond ... come to Marquette and I'll see what I can do about getting you into the Olympics."
that wouldn't be unethical or anything, would it?
Quote from: El Guerrero on April 01, 2014, 03:56:57 PM
And obviously it would be a draw to have your coach being the one making the cuts...
And how in anyway would that change from pros to collegiate players? Logic no good today?
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on April 01, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
And how in anyway would that change from pros to collegiate players? Logic no good today?
So if you were a recruit, the fact that college players play in the Olympics rather than pros has no weight in how you view the fact that a potential college coach is a coach for USA basketball? I don't think I'm the one whose logic is slow.
Quote from: El Guerrero on April 01, 2014, 04:07:07 PM
So if you were a recruit, the fact that college players play in the Olympics rather than pros has no weight in how you view the fact that a potential college coach is a coach for USA basketball? I don't think I'm the one whose logic is slow.
So what your saying is (bear with me, the sentence structure you gave me was awful) that recruits will only look at a coach who coaches collegiate kids in the olympics, and not the pros who he also would coach in the olympics? To me it seems the recruits would be much happier knowing this guy has the respect of the top professional players in the nba.
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on April 01, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
So what your saying is (bear with me, the sentence structure you gave me was awful) that recruits will only look at a coach who coaches collegiate kids in the olympics, and not the pros who he also would coach in the olympics? To me it seems the recruits would be much happier knowing this guy has the respect of the top professional players in the nba.
Here's the thing: coaching in the Olympics is prestigious. It makes you seem important and good at what you do (whether you actually are or not). It's beneficial for potential recruits seeing you on TV in a timeout huddle with LeBron and KD and CP3. It helps to have relationships with those guys - maybe have them swing by the Al when they're in town to play the Bucks. It's a selling point for a coach to tell kids "I've worked with the greatest players on the planet and have seen what it takes to get to that level."
How is all this not obvious?
Anyhow, all indications are that NBA players will be in Rio.
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on April 01, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
So what your saying is (bear with me, the sentence structure you gave me was awful) that recruits will only look at a coach who coaches collegiate kids in the olympics, and not the pros who he also would coach in the olympics? To me it seems the recruits would be much happier knowing this guy has the respect of the top professional players in the nba.
Well I can't really piece together your argument (nor understand why you are choosing to make it one), but if I were a recruit, the Olympics angle would matter more to me if college players played in the Olympics. But then again, maybe my logic is slow today.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 01, 2014, 04:16:47 PM
Here's the thing: coaching in the Olympics is prestigious. It makes you seem important and good at what you do (whether you actually are or not). It's beneficial for potential recruits seeing you on TV in a timeout huddle with LeBron and KD and CP3. It helps to have relationships with those guys - maybe have them swing by the Al when they're in town to play the Bucks. It's a selling point for a coach to tell kids "I've worked with the greatest players on the planet and have seen what it takes to get to that level."
How is all this not obvious?
Anyhow, all indications are that NBA players will be in Rio.
I think your confused, we are both agreeing that him coaching Nba players would be viewed as more prestigious
Quote from: El Guerrero on April 01, 2014, 04:19:15 PM
Well I can't really piece together your argument (nor understand why you are choosing to make it one), but if I were a recruit, the Olympics angle would matter more to me if college players played in the Olympics. But then again, maybe my logic is slow today.
Your very slow today, I suggest rereading what has been said. There is not a single recruit who would view coaching collegiate players as better then coaching literally the 14 best basketball players in the world.
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on April 01, 2014, 04:26:22 PM
Your very slow today, I suggest rereading what has been said. There is not a single recruit who would view coaching collegiate players as better then coaching literally the 14 best basketball players in the world.
They might if they had aspirations of playing in the Olympics themselves.
Quote from: El Guerrero on April 01, 2014, 04:27:39 PM
They might if they had aspirations of playing in the Olympics themselves.
Which again, would matter what? Rofl.
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on April 01, 2014, 04:25:12 PM
I think your confused, we are both agreeing that him coaching Nba players would be viewed as more prestigious
I'll make it simple. My initial comment wasn't about the prestige of the job, but rather the likelihood that your coach could help you make the Olympic team. If college players are playing in the Olympics, then you are much closer to that potentiality than if recruits essentially have to wait until they are proven NBA vets to compete for a spot. This makes your college coach's connections a more relevant consideration (albeit a rather small consideration for almost every recruit).
How about this .... whether it's NBA or college players in Rio, having your team's guy coaching the Olympic squad is positive exposure for him and your program.
Can we all get on board with that?
Quote from: El Guerrero on April 01, 2014, 04:35:17 PM
I'll make it simple. My initial comment wasn't about the prestige of the job, but rather the likelihood that your coach could help you make the Olympic team. If college players are playing in the Olympics, then you are much closer to that potentiality than if recruits essentially have to wait until they are proven NBA vets to compete for a spot. This makes your college coach's connections a more relevant consideration (albeit a rather small consideration for almost every recruit).
Except this isn't 1980, were not playing the soviets, and we most likely won't be coming off a national championship. So half of Marquette will not be chilling on the bench. The top 12 players from the collegiate ring will be going if that was the case. There would be exactly zero amounts of consideration for a player just because his coach is an assistant. They will pick up the best 30 players like they do every year for the USA team. Poor Gardner =(
Quote from: Pakuni on April 01, 2014, 04:38:14 PM
How about this .... whether it's NBA or college players in Rio, having your team's guy coaching the Olympic squad is positive exposure for him and your program.
Can we all get on board with that?
On board.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 01, 2014, 04:38:14 PM
How about this .... whether it's NBA or college players in Rio, having your team's guy coaching the Olympic squad is positive exposure for him and your program.
Can we all get on board with that?
I believe we all already are.