Wojo is growing on me. Here is his Duke profile... http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22725&SPID=1845&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=152860&Q_SEASON=2011 (http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22725&SPID=1845&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=152860&Q_SEASON=2011)
I really think folks are underestimating him because he's under Coach K but you gotta realized this guy is the Associate Head Coach at arguably the best program in the Country. The number of NBA players he's coached and developed at Duke can't be matched by many coaches. He's a key piece of developing the x's & o's for each game. He recruits for Duke so he's in front of all the big time players and knows how to recruit them.
We could do much worse (ie Wardle).
Who does he pull as assistants though? He's only ever been at Duke at you'd think he wouldn't be able to get anyone else to come with him (except maybe some low level grad assistant type) - like Buzz, hope he'd get some ex head coeaches -
I don't know - seems like there are a lot of other options out there -
really hope consideration has been given to Manning and/or Tad Boyle
and I thought this was just another Real Chili post...
Quote from: LastWarrior on April 01, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
We could do much worse (ie Wardle).
I can't believe it's come to this.
Quote from: LastWarrior on April 01, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
Wojo is growing on me.
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Wojo has the Mojo.
Let's go.
Wojo or Martin? Who would you have preferred?
Quote from: VolFan on April 01, 2014, 08:41:05 AM
Wojo or Martin? Who would you have preferred?
I would have preferred not to have been publicly spurned by two straight candidates, particularly one as underwhelming as Martin.
You have no effing clue is Martin spurned Marq, people should just shut up at this point...
Quote from: 3Mer on April 01, 2014, 08:43:01 AM
I would have preferred not to have been publicly spurned by two straight candidates, particularly one as underwhelming as Martin.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 01, 2014, 08:44:48 AM
You have no effing clue is Martin spurned Marq, people should just shut up at this point...
What part of "Martin takes his name out of consideration" don't you understand genius? How can any of the publicity of the last couple weeks be good for MU? And who made you the arbitror of all valid opinions on the board?
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 01, 2014, 08:44:48 AM
You have no effing clue is Martin spurned Marq, people should just shut up at this point...
By "people" do you mean the national media...like ESPN?
Has Wojo ever been considered by other programs and if so which ones? I'm wondering why after 14 years at Duke he's finally ready to move on.
This is would be the most uninspiring white bread hire maybe ever.
It reeeeekkksss of safe and vanilla.
Quote from: LastWarrior on April 01, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
Wojo is growing on me. Here is his Duke profile... http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22725&SPID=1845&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=152860&Q_SEASON=2011 (http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22725&SPID=1845&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=152860&Q_SEASON=2011)
I really think folks are underestimating him because he's under Coach K but you gotta realized this guy is the Associate Head Coach at arguably the best program in the Country. The number of NBA players he's coached and developed at Duke can't be matched by many coaches. He's a key piece of developing the x's & o's for each game. He recruits for Duke so he's in front of all the big time players and knows how to recruit them.
We could do much worse (ie Wardle).
Knows how to recruit them? You honestly think wojo is the deciding factor when these burger boys choose Duke??? Hahahaha. C'mon.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on April 01, 2014, 08:49:59 AM
This is would be the most uninspiring white bread hire maybe ever.
It reeeeekkksss of safe and vanilla.
True, as far from Impact Hire as it gets. I mean, at least Martin would have been a negative impact. Wojo is peeing in the ocean.
Maybe Wojo can hire Paulus as one of his assistants. :-\
Shoot me.
Did Marquette consider Counzo ? Do you know that?
Did Counzo consider Marquette? Do you know that?
Did Marquette want Counzo? Do you know that?
Did Marquette offer Counzo? Do you know that?
Did Counzo "pull out" after realizing he is not the first choice? Do you know that?
I don't know any of those things. But apparently you do to slam your school and leaders.
I do know this board is if 50% filled with "whiny little bitches" that think they demand Marquette to hire a Coach K hire in 2 days...
Quote from: 3Mer on April 01, 2014, 08:47:32 AM
What part of "Martin takes his name out of consideration" don't you understand genius? How can any of the publicity of the last couple weeks be good for MU? And who made you the arbitror of all valid opinions on the board?
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think we'd be better off hiring Wardle than Wojo. Seriously, Wardle has a much more impressive resume. It's not even close, actually.
So when Coach K retires in 6-7 years, does Wojo go to Duke?
I hate this hire for the same reason I hated the Syracuse assistant, and for the same reason I wanted Ben Howland. This program needs an established coach so it can get some sense of stability.
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chill
Quote from: 3Mer on April 01, 2014, 08:43:01 AM
I would have preferred not to have been publicly spurned by two straight candidates,
Perhaps MU should go for the gay candidates then? ;D
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 01, 2014, 08:57:55 AM
Did Marquette consider Counzo ? Do you know that?
Did Counzo consider Marquette? Do you know that?
Did Marquette want Counzo? Do you know that?
Did Marquette offer Counzo? Do you know that?
Did Counzo "pull out" after realizing he is not the first choice? Do you know that?
I don't know any of those things. But apparently you do to slam your school and leaders.
I do know this board is if 50% filled with "whiny little bitches" that think they demand Marquette to hire a Coach K hire in 2 days...
Apparently the other 50% is filled with morons who hide their heads in the sand.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on April 01, 2014, 08:58:52 AM
So when Coach K retires in 6-7 years, does Wojo go to Duke?
I hate this hire for the same reason I hated the Syracuse assistant, and for the same reason I wanted Ben Howland. This program needs an established coach so it can get some sense of stability.
If Wojo were to return to Duke as K's successor, it would be excellent for Marquette since it would mean that Wojo was so successful as to clear any doubt whether he was heir apparent over Collins, Dawkins, Capel, etc.
Quote from: LastWarrior on April 01, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
Wojo is growing on me. Here is his Duke profile... http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22725&SPID=1845&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=152860&Q_SEASON=2011 (http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22725&SPID=1845&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=152860&Q_SEASON=2011)
I really think folks are underestimating him because he's under Coach K but you gotta realized this guy is the Associate Head Coach at arguably the best program in the Country. The number of NBA players he's coached and developed at Duke can't be matched by many coaches. He's a key piece of developing the x's & o's for each game. He recruits for Duke so he's in front of all the big time players and knows how to recruit them.
We could do much worse (ie Wardle).
Oh, he recruits for Duke. I forgot. You are right. Because the rule here at MUScoop is, if you are a white coach over 50, you can't recruit or coach*. Beilein, Howland, Pitino, Coach K, etc.
(* - unless you are at UCLA, where anyone can recruit and win there since the school recruits itself)
For all (my) yelling about Martin, Wojo would be a big step down from even him. Good lord, people/MU. Really?
So it's best to rip your school, alma mater, leaders with ZERO knowledge of what has happened or what might still happen?
sure you have a degree from Marquette?
Quote from: 3Mer on April 01, 2014, 09:00:39 AM
Apparently the other 50% is filled with morons who hide their heads in the sand.
The only that bothers me about Wojo is I could not stand him when he was Duke's point guard. He was a very good point guard.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 01, 2014, 09:22:43 AM
So it's best to rip your school, alma mater, leaders with ZERO knowledge of what has happened or what might still happen?
sure you have a degree from Marquette?
I have 3 Marquette degrees ("3Mer"). How many do I have to have in order to post an opinion on your board, smart guy?
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on April 01, 2014, 08:49:59 AM
This is would be the most uninspiring white bread hire maybe ever.
It reeeeekkksss of safe and vanilla.
It's the Marquette way!
Quote from: bilsu on April 01, 2014, 09:25:46 AM
The only that bothers me about Wojo is I could not stand him when he was Duke's point guard. He was a very good point guard.
I might be in the minority here but I loved him at Duke and would welcome any pg with his intensity and skill set. Speaking of pg's, I really hope Duane wilson stays for whomever is the new coach. I think he is going to be a very very special player. You can quote me on that.
I assume none of the degrees is is "Leading a University" or "Effective Coaching Searches" ..
Nor is your degree in "Managing PR"?
3 MU Degree Einstein - do you think Counzo might have taken his name out of the running to save face when he realized he might not be the final candidate?
Quote from: 3Mer on April 01, 2014, 09:29:46 AM
I have 3 Marquette degrees ("3Mer"). How many do I have to have in order to post an opinion on your board, smart guy?
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 01, 2014, 09:35:30 AM
I assume none of the degrees is is "Leading a University" or "Effective Coaching Searches" ..
Nor is your degree in "Managing PR"?
3 MU Degree Einstein - do you think Counzo might have taken his name out of the running to save face when he realized he might not be the final candidate?
I believe that if marquette wanted Martin they could have easily gotten him. Why on earth would he want to go back to Tennessee? They don't and haven't wanted him
Since he was hired. He was obviously saving face for Tenn. players and recruits and I am sure it will come out that he was not officially offered anything by Marquette.
Wooo has been hired per Jeff Goodman. Done deal.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 01, 2014, 09:35:30 AM
I assume none of the degrees is is "Leading a University" or "Effective Coaching Searches" ..
Nor is your degree in "Managing PR"?
3 MU Degree Einstein - do you think Counzo might have taken his name out of the running to save face when he realized he might not be the final candidate?
You win. I don't have any of those degrees. Your intellect is withering. You truly are a great fan and an outstanding alum. May you continue to dominate this board and stamp out any voices of dissension or common sense.
Quote from: Sharpie on April 01, 2014, 09:43:10 AM
Wooo has been hired per Jeff Goodman. Done deal.
You called?
somebody has to out the stupidity...
Quote from: 3Mer on April 01, 2014, 09:43:23 AM
You win. I don't have any of those degrees. Your intellect is withering. You truly are a great fan and an outstanding alum. May you continue to dominate this board and stamp out any voices of dissension or common sense.
Quote from: 3Mer on April 01, 2014, 09:43:23 AM
You win. I don't have any of those degrees. Your intellect is withering. You truly are a great fan and an outstanding alum. May you continue to dominate this board and stamp out any voices of dissension or common sense.
The vitriol on both sides was unecessary, but look at it logically.
It is leaked that Cuonzo Martin is discussing the coaching vacancy with Marquette.
They meet, three things can happen.
1. They both decide it is the right fit and Martin is hired. Announcement is made.
2. Martin decides MU is not for him. Martin announces that he has withdrawn interest.
3. MU decides it doesn't want Martin. The result has to be, Martin announces that he has withdrawn interest. Why? Because he has to go back to Tennessee. He can't go back saying that he wanted to leave but MU wouldn't take him. Marquette can't announce they decided they didn't want him because if they did, good luck getting other head coaches to interview.
So the results of outcomes 2 and 3 would look awfully similar publicly, because they have to.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on April 01, 2014, 08:58:52 AM
So when Coach K retires in 6-7 years, does Wojo go to Duke?
I hate this hire for the same reason I hated the Syracuse assistant, and for the same reason I wanted Ben Howland. This program needs an established coach so it can get some sense of stability.
Agreed to a certain extent, but you can't play the what-if game...especially if that game is being played 6-7 years down the road. A myriad of things could happen and new candidates could surface in that time. For instance, I've heard that Brad Stevens two college jobs he'd aspire to if the circumstances were right are IU and Duke.
You hire the best candidate. Period.
but with 3 degrees, you are too smart to see point #3 apparently...
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 01, 2014, 09:53:49 AM
The vitriol on both sides was unecessary, but look at it logically.
It is leaked that Cuonzo Martin is discussing the coaching vacancy with Marquette.
They meet, three things can happen.
1. They both decide it is the right fit and Martin is hired. Announcement is made.
2. Martin decides MU is not for him. Martin announces that he has withdrawn interest.
3. MU decides it doesn't want Martin. The result has to be, Martin announces that he has withdrawn interest. Why? Because he has to go back to Tennessee. He can't go back saying that he wanted to leave but MU wouldn't take him. Marquette can't announce they decided they didn't want him because if they did, good luck getting other head coaches to interview.
So the results of outcomes 2 and 3 would look awfully similar publicly, because they have to.
Quote from: 3Mer on April 01, 2014, 08:47:32 AM
What part of "Martin takes his name out of consideration" don't you understand genius? How can any of the publicity of the last couple weeks be good for MU? And who made you the arbitror of all valid opinions on the board?
Martin was told he was not getting the job. He was given the chance to save face with the Tennessee program that he is in trouble with. I can confirm this.
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Quote from: swoopem on April 01, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Has Wojo ever been considered by other programs and if so which ones? I'm wondering why after 14 years at Duke he's finally ready to move on.
I would like to see an answer to this