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Title: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: 79Warrior on March 28, 2014, 05:15:47 PM

Inadvertently or not, he is taking us down every time he answers the "why did you leave question" Just decline to answer and move on.

Every time this dude gets on TV or radio, he is reaming the conference, the coverage on Fox, etc. Just STFU.

Saying Marquette is a "great institution" then turning around and questioning the strength of the conference is undermining the school that gave him a HUGE break.

Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: Cooby Snacks on March 28, 2014, 05:19:51 PM
Yeah he's being a real dickbag these days. Funny how this league isn't good enough for him, seeing as he could only go .500 with a roster including a 6th year senior, the reigning 6th man of the year, and 6 consensus top 100 recruits.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: willie warrior on March 28, 2014, 05:22:48 PM
Quote from: Cooby Snacks on March 28, 2014, 05:19:51 PM
Yeah he's being a real dickbag these days. Funny how this league isn't good enough for him, seeing as he could only go .500 with a roster including a 6th year senior, the reigning 6th man of the year, and 6 consensus top 100 recruits.
Hope the slurpers are still reminiscing about the ol Buzzster.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: chapman on March 28, 2014, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 28, 2014, 05:15:47 PM
Inadvertently or not

not
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: mattyv1908 on March 28, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
Is that his concern any longer?  He's answering the question as he should (and as any of us would) and talking up his new gig.

With the realignment, the ACC is a basketball powerhouse.  Any potential coach knows that the MU job isn't what it was 3 years ago.  It's still a good job, but Buzz talking about the reality of the conference isn't something he should be faulted for.  There's plenty to knock Buzz for but I don't see this as being one of them.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 05:25:44 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on March 28, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
Is that his concern any longer?  He's answering the question as he should (and as any of us would) and talking up his new gig.

With the realignment, the ACC is a basketball powerhouse.  Any potential coach knows that the MU job isn't what it was 3 years ago.  It's still a good job, but Buzz talking about the reality of the conference isn't something he should be faulted for.  There's plenty to knock Buzz for but I don't see this as being one of them.


Show a little class on your way out the door.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: mattyv1908 on March 28, 2014, 05:31:22 PM
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 05:25:44 PM
Show a little class on your way out the door.

OK, this board knows I'm not one to defend Buzz (TAMU and Sultan where are you?), as I was very critical of him throughout the season.  I just don't see the logic here.  Has he said anything other than how great his time spent at MU was in a public setting?  I haven't heard him take one swipe at the school.

Explaining your desire to coach in the ACC because the Big East is not the same conference as it was prior is 100% factual.  Denying it doesn't make it less true.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: TheBurrEffect on March 28, 2014, 05:34:55 PM
I wasn't aware telling the truth was frowned upon. Just because he left like a douche doesn't mean what he says isn't true. The Big East is horridly weak and the fox sports 1 ratings this year were on par with reruns at 3am on 24. Why they didn't bring cinci, and uconn along no one will ever know.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: ecompt on March 28, 2014, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on March 28, 2014, 05:34:55 PM
I wasn't aware telling the truth was frowned upon. Just because he left like a douche doesn't mean what he says isn't true. The Big East is horridly weak and the fox sports 1 ratings this year were on par with reruns at 3am on 24. Why they didn't bring cinci, and uconn along no one will ever know.

because Cincy and UConn are football schools.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 05:46:01 PM
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on March 28, 2014, 05:34:55 PM
I wasn't aware telling the truth was frowned upon. Just because he left like a douche doesn't mean what he says isn't true. The Big East is horridly weak and the fox sports 1 ratings this year were on par with reruns at 3am on 24. Why they didn't bring cinci, and uconn along no one will ever know.


Ummmm, because both have football???
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: chapman on March 28, 2014, 05:47:58 PM
Whether he's completely veiled it or not, let's be real, Brent doesn't wish MU all the best.  Crean did, KO didn't give a [KO expletive] either way.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: TheBurrEffect on March 28, 2014, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 05:46:01 PM

Ummmm, because both have football???
Because that would be the 1st time ever that a school would have football in one conference and basketball in another?
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: MattyWarrior on March 28, 2014, 05:58:13 PM
Buzz loves him certain sportscasters that throw him softballs as questions. He'll take assistants,players and is 10 mill. or
more richer than whence he came here. I thought his family loved it here and he lived like a king..Call me dumbfounded.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 28, 2014, 06:03:26 PM
All the more reason we need to hire Howland NOW...so he can get on TV while the tournament is still going on, and get some free PR of our own.

Or we could sit on our hands a couple more weeks.  I'm sure recruits don't watch the NCAA tournament anyhow....
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: AirPunches on March 28, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: Blueprint on March 28, 2014, 05:58:13 PM
Buzz loves him certain sportscasters that throw him softballs as questions. He'll take assistants,players and is 10 mill. or
more richer than whence he came here. I thought his family loved it here and he lived like a king..Call me dumbfounded.

Yeah certain is the key word here. He lost his mind when asked how he keeps the team focused during a winning streak.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: avid1010 on March 28, 2014, 06:09:47 PM
buzz isn't saying anything every d1 coach in the nation wouldn't think through when considering the mu job.  they'll also consider buzz, the inside word on why he really left, etc. 
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 28, 2014, 06:11:52 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 28, 2014, 05:15:47 PM
Inadvertently or not, he is taking us down every time he answers the "why did you leave question" Just decline to answer and move on.

Every time this dude gets on TV or radio, he is reaming the conference, the coverage on Fox, etc. Just STFU.

Saying Marquette is a "great institution" then turning around and questioning the strength of the conference is undermining the school that gave him a HUGE break.

Don't worry.

He's doing himself a disservice questioning the strength of the conference that his team was projected to win in the preseason but struggled to even finish .500...

And miss the post-season...

And endure ridicule for not playing his talented freshmen more...

Which resulted in BOOs at the Bradley...

Which hurt his feelings and contributed to him leaving Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: keefe on March 28, 2014, 06:14:42 PM
Quote from: ecompt on March 28, 2014, 05:45:30 PM
because Cincy and UConn are football schools.

Not sure that's how I would have worded that...

BTW, aren't you the guy who wrote sports for the Daily News?
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: willie warrior on March 28, 2014, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: TheBurrEffect on March 28, 2014, 05:34:55 PM
I wasn't aware telling the truth was frowned upon. Just because he left like a douche doesn't mean what he says isn't true. The Big East is horridly weak and the fox sports 1 ratings this year were on par with reruns at 3am on 24. Why they didn't bring cinci, and uconn along no one will ever know.
y
The reason you don't know is answered by your horridly weak assessment of BEast and Fox Sports. Fox Sports has not claimed to be ESPN through Ocho. That takes time.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: ecompt on March 28, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
Quote from: keefe on March 28, 2014, 06:14:42 PM
Not sure that's how I would have worded that...

BTW, aren't you the guy who wrote sports for the Daily News?

Yes, sir, I am.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: keefe on March 29, 2014, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: ecompt on March 28, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
Yes, sir, I am.

I thought so. We traded emails about 10 years ago. I believe you wrote me your wife lost some people in one of the Towers. Happy to report she got some payback.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: ecompt on March 29, 2014, 01:45:08 PM
Quote from: keefe on March 29, 2014, 01:29:40 PM
I thought so. We traded emails about 10 years ago. I believe you wrote me your wife lost some people in one of the Towers. Happy to report she got some payback.

Thank you, sir.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: FloorSlapping on March 29, 2014, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on March 28, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
Is that his concern any longer?  He's answering the question as he should (and as any of us would) and talking up his new gig.

With the realignment, the ACC is a basketball powerhouse.  Any potential coach knows that the MU job isn't what it was 3 years ago.  It's still a good job, but Buzz talking about the reality of the conference isn't something he should be faulted for.  There's plenty to knock Buzz for but I don't see this as being one of them.


Agreed. At some point everyone should realize MU is not a destination job. It is absolutely a great job, great program, but for quality coaches......there will always be better jobs.  Some of the angst comes from the fact that he left for a conference and not a program as Crean did.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: hairy worthen on March 29, 2014, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: Havoc@MU on March 29, 2014, 02:11:18 PM
Agreed. At some point everyone should realize MU is not a destination job. It is absolutely a great job, great program, but for quality coaches......there will always be better jobs.  Some of the angst comes from the fact that he left for a conference and not a program as Crean did.

Destination job is in the eye of the beholder.  Is Gonzaga a destination job? Apparently it is to Mark Few. Wisconsin? How about all the schools that were not destination jobs until a certain coach made them that way,
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: NotBuzzWilliams on March 29, 2014, 02:55:59 PM
"It's better to act yourself into a new way of thinking than it is to think yourself into a new way of acting..."  -Brent Williams
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 29, 2014, 02:57:01 PM
Quote from: hairyworthen on March 29, 2014, 02:19:36 PM
Destination job is in the eye of the beholder.  Is Gonzaga a destination job? Apparently it is to Mark Few. Wisconsin? How about all the schools that were not destination jobs until a certain coach made them that way,

Destination=blueblood program
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: Texas Western on March 29, 2014, 03:22:34 PM
The reality is Buzz knew that with another lousy season, he would have slightly less luster. He was smart enough to get a big money job while he could get one. If you look back at some of the comments he has made over the years he has always reflected the fleeting nature of the college head coaching business.  All he is doing now is rewriting history as any promoter would do. At the end of the day water will always seek it's proper level and time will tell if Buzz is truly an upper echelon stable coach or just another Kevin O'Neil type journey man.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 29, 2014, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: Havoc@MU on March 29, 2014, 02:11:18 PM
Agreed. At some point everyone should realize MU is not a destination job. It is absolutely a great job, great program, but for quality coaches......there will always be better jobs.  Some of the angst comes from the fact that he left for a conference and not a program as Crean did.

He went to the worst program in a very good conference...2 NCAA bids in 30 years and took a paycut to do it, all the while saying the Big East and FS1 were weakening the league (a league he couldn't do better than 6th in despite the returning players and picked 1st).

Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 29, 2014, 07:03:40 PM
Quote from: NotBuzzWilliams on March 29, 2014, 02:55:59 PM
"It's better to act yourself into a new way of thinking than it is to think yourself into a new way of acting..."  -Brent Williams
Can I just admit this quote blows my mind? What in the world does it even mean?

Buzz was like a George Lucas character and goddammit, I gotta admit I'm sorry he's gone.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: Class71 on March 29, 2014, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on March 28, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
Is that his concern any longer?  He's answering the question as he should (and as any of us would) and talking up his new gig.

With the realignment, the ACC is a basketball powerhouse.  Any potential coach knows that the MU job isn't what it was 3 years ago.  It's still a good job, but Buzz talking about the reality of the conference isn't something he should be faulted for.  There's plenty to knock Buzz for but I don't see this as being one of them.


Buzz is worried about Buzz so his comments should not be surprising. Oh I forget it is all about relationships. Good luck at VT Buzz. We will be fine.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: humanlung on March 30, 2014, 12:26:27 AM
Buzz looks like an idiot the second we announce three time final four coach Ben Howland as our new coach. That's the biggest STFU we can deliver.
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: willie warrior on March 30, 2014, 06:06:30 AM
Quote from: CoachingSearchNightmare on March 29, 2014, 07:03:40 PM
Can I just admit this quote blows my mind? What in the world does it even mean?

Buzz was like a George Lucas character and goddammit, I gotta admit I'm sorry he's gone.
Yeah, the George Lucas character would be Darth Vader. C'mon man!
Title: Re: Buzz is doing a great job making Cords job harder
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 30, 2014, 07:20:23 AM
Quote from: hairyworthen on March 29, 2014, 02:19:36 PM
Destination job is in the eye of the beholder.  Is Gonzaga a destination job? Apparently it is to Mark Few. Wisconsin? How about all the schools that were not destination jobs until a certain coach made them that way,

Duke was a destination job for K
Syracuse was a destination job for Boeheim

Will They be after they are gone?

IU after Bobby Knight ... Since 2000, three Mike Davis, Kelvin Sampson and Crean,
More than MU over the same period (not counting next season)

UNC after Dean Smith ... Since 1999 three, Bill Guthridge, Matt Doherty and Roy
Same as MU over the same period (not counting next season)

UCLA after Wooden ... since 1975 then have had 9 different head coaches
MU since Al has had 6 different head coaches (not counting next season)

Their is only one truly destination job in all of college basketball.  One where a legend leaves and is replaced by another legend.  Michigan State

Jedd Heathcote, 1976 to 1995 ... 1979 NCAA Champs; 9 NCAA Appearances; 3 Conference Championships

Tom Izzo, 1996 to Present ... 2000 NCAA Champs; 2009 National Runner up, Final Four appearances in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2009, and 2010; 16 straight NCAA Tourney Appearances; 7 Conference Championships; 4 Conference Tournament Championships
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