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Title: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Groin_pull on March 28, 2014, 03:28:33 PM
Cuonzo Martin. Introduced on Thursday (4/3).
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: MUfan12 on March 28, 2014, 03:32:51 PM
Brian Wardle, Wednesday.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 03:33:10 PM
I say Cuonzo Martin 4/2/14
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on March 28, 2014, 03:36:09 PM
Dwayne Stephens 4/8/2014
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: mhendrick on March 28, 2014, 03:36:42 PM
Why would Martin leave Tenn.to come here? Ties to the program that I am unaware of?
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: NersEllenson on March 28, 2014, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 28, 2014, 03:32:51 PM
Brian Wardle, Wednesday.

This just has to stop!!  

You'd think if it was Howland..that deal would be closed by now...perhaps that's off the table.  Would result in the mystery candidate still in NCAA tourney - is it Bennett?  Martin?  Pretty sure it wasn't Scott Drew...

Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: mhendrick on March 28, 2014, 03:36:42 PM
Why would Martin leave Tenn.to come here? Ties to the program that I am unaware of?

I feel its a perfect fit. He has a chip on his shoulder from the way hes been treated at Tennessee
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: humanlung on March 28, 2014, 03:40:30 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
I feel its a perfect fit. He has a chip on his shoulder from the way hes been treated at Tennessee

The more accomplished Howland doesn't from UCLA?
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Windyplayer on March 28, 2014, 03:41:04 PM
Howland. April 1--no joke.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: mhendrick on March 28, 2014, 03:43:15 PM
Smart April 1st. Done Deal.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Cooby Snacks on March 28, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Danny Manning (light it up! light it up!) next Friday.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: humanlung on March 28, 2014, 03:40:30 PM
The more accomplished Howland doesn't from UCLA?

In MY opinion, I think he is too old and wouldnt be able to recruit well at Marquette. Cuonzo's players love playing for him and would relate much better to high level recruits. Ben was lucky that he coached at UCLA because the name of the school did his recruiting for him
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: grzy6 on March 28, 2014, 03:45:45 PM
Mike Deane. Tuesday.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: drewm88 on March 28, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
Shaka Smart. March 24.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: drewm88 on March 28, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
Shaka Smart. March 24.

I see u didnt get the memo
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: AlumKCof93 on March 28, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Ron Paul - 5 pm today.  Its happening!
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 03:44:38 PM
In MY opinion, I think he is too old and wouldnt be able to recruit well at Marquette. Cuonzo's players love playing for him and would relate much better to high level recruits. Ben was lucky that he coached at UCLA because the name of the school did his recruiting for him

Howland had the #1 recruiting class in the country a couple years ago.  Martin has no track record of recruiting at a high level.

Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: humanlung on March 28, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
The maid.  In the library.  With a wrench.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: frozena pizza on March 28, 2014, 03:51:37 PM
Pitino.  Any Pitino.  Over the weekend.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: drewm88 on March 28, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
I see u didnt get the memo

Nah it's legit. I saw it from a handful of dudes on Twitter and on the news. I heard there was a press conference that night and everything.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Tums Festival on March 28, 2014, 03:51:58 PM
Ben Howland, 4/1/14

Cuonzo Martin CAN'T RECRUIT!
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Marquette Fan in WI on March 28, 2014, 03:52:51 PM
Brian Wardle
Friday June 13th
5:01 pm
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: PistolPete on March 28, 2014, 03:54:52 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 03:44:38 PM
In MY opinion, I think he is too old and wouldnt be able to recruit well at Marquette. Cuonzo's players love playing for him and would relate much better to high level recruits. Ben was lucky that he coached at UCLA because the name of the school did his recruiting for him

As has been previously stated, Howland also had success in recruiting while at Pitt. It's difficult to dispute Westwood's allure and the school's ability to recruit itself, but a lot of these kids just want that cheese. Howland has produced over a dozen NBA players, many of which were first round picks. [Guaranteed] money talks.

I wouldn't discount the fire in Howland's belly based on how things went down at UCLA.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 03:50:33 PM
Howland had the #1 recruiting class in the country a couple years ago.  Martin has no track record of recruiting at a high level.



Im not gonna debate with you on that. All im saying is that Ben didnt do his recruiting. UCLA(the brand name) did it. How did he do at Pitt as far as recruits? Not that good

Bottom line: if Cuonzo was our coach this year we couldve gotten Looney.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: PistolPete on March 28, 2014, 03:54:52 PM
As has been previously stated, Howland also had success in recruiting while at Pitt. It's difficult to dispute Westwood's allure and the school's ability to recruit itself, but a lot of these kids just want that cheese. Howland has produced over a dozen NBA players, many of which were first round picks. [Guaranteed] money talks.

I wouldn't discount the fire in Howland's belly based on how things went down at UCLA.

How many NBA players does he have from Pitt? Is Aaron Gray still in the League? Oh wait, he was Dixon's recruit.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: mhendrick on March 28, 2014, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
Im not gonna debate with you on that. All im saying is that Ben didnt do his recruiting. UCLA(the brand name) did it. How did he do at Pitt as far as recruits? Not that good

Bottom line: if Cuonzo was our coach this year we couldve gotten Looney.
So if we hire Martin he comes and changes Looneys mind? Looney to Marquette?
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: ecompt on March 28, 2014, 03:58:29 PM
Wardle, Tuesday, April 1. How appropriate.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: mhendrick on March 28, 2014, 03:57:53 PM
So if we hire Martin he comes and changes Looneys mind? Looney to Marquette?

Nah, I doubt it.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Wally Schroeder on March 28, 2014, 03:59:56 PM
Mike Rice, April 2nd
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: AlumKCof93 on March 28, 2014, 04:00:16 PM
Ganzer - Done Deal
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Windyplayer on March 28, 2014, 04:02:09 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 03:57:47 PM
How many NBA players does he have from Pitt? Is Aaron Gray still in the League? Oh wait, he was Dixon's recruit.
Guy, if you want to convince us, give us some hard evidence. What were his recruiting classes ranked at PITT from 1999-2003? And are you arguing that he can't recruit top 100s or can't recruit skill. I'd argue against the latter since he won back-to-back Big East titles and had tourney success while at PITT.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Tums Festival on March 28, 2014, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
Im not gonna debate with you on that. All im saying is that Ben didnt do his recruiting. UCLA(the brand name) did it. How did he do at Pitt as far as recruits? Not that good

Bottom line: if Cuonzo was our coach this year we couldve gotten Looney.

The ONLY way Looney would've come to Marquette is if we picked up the campus and moved it far out of state.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 04:04:21 PM
Quote from: windyplayer on March 28, 2014, 04:02:09 PM
Guy, if you want to convince us, give us some hard evidence. What were his recruiting classes ranked at PITT from 1999-2003? And are you arguing that he can't recruit top 100s or can't recruit skill. I'd argue against the latter since he won back-to-back Big East titles and had tourney success while at PITT.

Im not gonna do that. I'll leave that to you guys.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
Im not gonna debate with you on that. All im saying is that Ben didnt do his recruiting. UCLA(the brand name) did it. How did he do at Pitt as far as recruits? Not that good

Bottom line: if Cuonzo was our coach this year we couldve gotten Looney.

That's quite a "bottom line".
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: brandx on March 28, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
Cuonzo or Stephens within 4 days after their season ends. Both have a relationship already with Diamond Stone, which will be a big factor in their selection.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: wadesworld on March 28, 2014, 04:07:40 PM
Quote from: brandx on March 28, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
Cuonzo or Stephens within 4 days after their season ends. Both have a relationship already with Diamond Stone, which will be a big factor in their selection.

No, it won't.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 04:07:50 PM
Quote from: brandx on March 28, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
Cuonzo or Stephens within 4 days after their season ends. Both have a relationship already with Diamond Stone, which will should be a big non-factor in their selection.

FIFY
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 04:09:24 PM
Quote from: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 04:05:06 PM
That's quite a "bottom line".

Lazer: you just dislike me dont you? Lol
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: brandx on March 28, 2014, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 04:07:50 PM
FIFY

I agree that a relationship with Stone shouldn't be a factor, but.....
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 04:09:24 PM
Lazer: you just dislike me dont you? Lol

Ha just your opinions man.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: GOO on March 28, 2014, 04:12:47 PM
Archie Miller 4-1 (lost a coach on April fools and gain one on April fools)

If it is Wardle, I sure hope that it is announced on April fools, so no one knows if it is a joke or not at first,  Kinda like Crean bolting in the middle of the night.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: chapman on March 28, 2014, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 03:44:38 PM
In MY opinion, I think he is too old and wouldnt be able to recruit well at Marquette. Cuonzo's players love playing for him and would relate much better to high level recruits. Ben was lucky that he coached at UCLA because the name of the school did his recruiting for him

Ok, you must be Tim Maymon, using your connection with Martin and your beef with MU to try to screw us all.  That's the only logical explanation for this.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 04:14:00 PM
Quote from: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 04:11:41 PM
Ha just your opinions man.

Lol. Ok I can respect that. We can be "rivals" on here.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: chapman on March 28, 2014, 04:12:57 PM
Ok, you must be Tim Maymon, using your connection with Martin and your beef with MU to try to screw us all.  That's the only logical explanation for this.

Who the heck is Tim maymon? Dont you mean Jerone Maymon?
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 04:14:00 PM
Lol. Ok I can respect that. We can be "rivals" on here.

We can coexist for sure, I'm just very skeptical of Martin's recruiting ability.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: LAZER on March 28, 2014, 04:23:48 PM
We can coexist for sure, I'm just very skeptical of Martin's recruiting ability.

Thats your opinion. Im skeptical of Howland's recruiting ability.  Just because he recruited well at UCLA that doesnt impress me.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: CTWarrior on March 28, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
Dwayne Stephens 4/10/2014
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Windyplayer on March 28, 2014, 04:36:31 PM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 04:04:21 PM
Im not gonna do that. I'll leave that to you guys.
I don't know why I still indulge you. I'm done.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 28, 2014, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: windyplayer on March 28, 2014, 04:36:31 PM
I don't know why I still indulge you. I'm done.

That serious huh? Lol
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 28, 2014, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: Cooby Snacks on March 28, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Danny Manning (light it up! light it up!) next Friday.

That'd be an interesting hire!


April 1.

Tom Crean.


Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: mr.MUskie on March 29, 2014, 02:08:41 AM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 28, 2014, 04:16:12 PM
Who the heck is Tim maymon? Dont you mean Jerone Maymon?


Tim is the father, aka The Puppetmaster.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Newsdreams on March 29, 2014, 02:14:02 AM
Quote from: My source on March 29, 2014, 02:08:41 AM

Tim is the father, aka The Puppetmaster.
Who is the old guy? Sorry Kenosha!
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Groin_pull on March 29, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
Moving up my prediction by a day.

Martin. Wednesday (4/2).
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: marquetteff03 on March 29, 2014, 10:08:32 AM
Martin Monday the 31st @ 6pm in front of the Al with all the current players behind him and his entire UT coaching staff on board.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 29, 2014, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 29, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
Moving up my prediction by a day.

Martin. Wednesday (4/2).

If it is Cuonzo, i dont see any way this drags on til Wed. If it happens, that decision is already made.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: cheebs09 on March 29, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
I was reading the Tennessee scout board. A poster mentioned that his buyout goes from $2.6 million to $1.3 million on April 1st. If he is the hire, I could see us waiting for that to go down.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 29, 2014, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 29, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
I was reading the Tennessee scout board. A poster mentioned that his buyout goes from $2.6 million to $1.3 million on April 1st. If he is the hire, I could see us waiting for that to go down.

Did they have a source?
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Windyplayer on March 29, 2014, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 29, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
I was reading the Tennessee scout board. A poster mentioned that his buyout goes from $2.6 million to $1.3 million on April 1st. If he is the hire, I could see us waiting for that to go down.
Is saving $1.3 million really worth facing the criticism from MU Scoop for 3 more days?

EDIT: I'm officially on the Martin bandwagon. Like what I've heard and read about him over the last couple of days.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Groin_pull on March 29, 2014, 10:25:36 AM
Yet Brent has only a $100,000 buyout. Wow, that's quite a legal team at MU.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Marquette_g on March 29, 2014, 10:27:09 AM
I've completely changed my tune, or convinced myself that I like the idea of Martin better than Howland.

However, my actual guess will Hopkins on Thursday.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Doo on March 29, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on March 28, 2014, 03:36:09 PM
Dwayne Stephens 4/8/2014
If we're truly waiting for a tourney team I'm thinking Stephens may be a real possibility.  MU history and fits MU's recent MO of hiring assistants.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: teddycoke on March 29, 2014, 10:37:49 AM
April 1st

Cuonzo Martin Hc

Along with assistants
Tim Maymon and Ron Holmes
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: 79Warrior on March 29, 2014, 10:39:46 AM
Quote from: Marquette_g on March 29, 2014, 10:27:09 AM
I've completely changed my tune, or convinced myself that I like the idea of Martin better than Howland.

However, my actual guess will Hopkins on Thursday.

At this point, Howland is not happening. There would be no reason for those discussions to drag out. They either want him or they don't. Not alot to work out here considering he is not employed. One side or the other passed,  Howland is not going to be out next coach. Based on his initial interest, you have to figure MU decided no.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Groin_pull on March 29, 2014, 10:45:33 AM
Yup. Howland ain't happening. Would love to know why.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: cheebs09 on March 29, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 29, 2014, 10:14:08 AM
Did they have a source?

Some weren't sure between 4/1 or 4/15, so it might not be 100% accurate. Frankly, I'd pay the extra $1.3 million just to end this thing.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: chapman on March 29, 2014, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 29, 2014, 10:45:33 AM
Yup. Howland ain't happening. Would love to know why.

Because getting even one thing right is too difficult for our administration.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Doo on March 29, 2014, 11:43:17 AM
Already posted that I think Stephens could be 1) in play & 2) a good choice.  This Cracked Sidewalks article about possible assistant coaches supports that notion...

  1) Dwayne Stephens -- How this guy isn't a head coach is beyond me. 13 straight years in the tourney, a ton of postseason success at Michigan State, and probably won't wait for his 59-year-old boss, Tom Izzo, to retire. He's worked with guys like Draymond Green, Derrick Nix, and Adrien Payne, turning them into stud big men. Sparty has been in the top-50 in terms of eFG% on offense twice and defense three times in the past three years, so Stephens knows where to focus his coaching efforts. Oh...and his first Final Four? It came when he was an assistant to Tom Crean at Marquette in 2003.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 31, 2014, 09:51:03 AM
Wojo...tonight or tomorrow
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 31, 2014, 10:21:58 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 29, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
I was reading the Tennessee scout board. A poster mentioned that his buyout goes from $2.6 million to $1.3 million on April 1st. If he is the hire, I could see us waiting for that to go down.

This was from Andy Katz himself so its true.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: drewm88 on March 31, 2014, 10:44:06 AM
Quote from: drewm88 on March 28, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
Shaka Smart. March 24.

I stand by this one.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: WadeATKBurton on March 31, 2014, 10:45:08 AM
Quote from: drewm88 on March 31, 2014, 10:44:06 AM
I stand by this one.

Coma?
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 31, 2014, 10:48:33 AM
Quote from: atk13thst on March 31, 2014, 10:45:08 AM
Coma?

Well, he's not entirely wrong. Shaka did accept the job on March 24th.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 31, 2014, 10:56:58 AM
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 29, 2014, 10:25:36 AM
Yet Brent has only a $100,000 buyout. Wow, that's quite a legal team at MU.

Maybe this was intentional????
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 31, 2014, 11:03:12 AM
Quote from: chapman on March 29, 2014, 10:54:20 AM
Because getting even one thing right is too difficult for our administration.

Yup.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: DoggyDaddy on March 31, 2014, 11:06:29 AM
The most credible adviser in all this is Doc. Doc loves MU but sent his son to where he might be shaped/mentored by the best.  
I think Wojo because he was shaped/mentored by the same. He will bring that here.
All of us with roots on the South Side love him already.
     
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: MU82 on March 31, 2014, 11:08:32 AM
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 31, 2014, 10:48:33 AM
Well, he's not entirely wrong. Shaka did accept the job on March 24th.

Hi, IWB.
Title: Re: Crystal Ball: Who and When
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 01, 2014, 10:13:05 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 31, 2014, 09:51:03 AM
Wojo...tonight or tomorrow

As the only one to pick this....I AM THE SOURCE!!!!!!!
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