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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Let's Go Warriors on March 28, 2014, 08:17:57 AM

Title: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on March 28, 2014, 08:17:57 AM
1) He has not done enough yet at the level he is at to get a job like Marquette.
2) Based on #1 with his current status, would he even be anywhere near the list if he was not an Alum?  I dont think so.
3) MU is at a higher level as a program right now and doesnt need to take this kind of a risk.
4) MU can sign him whenever they want.  IE in a few years from now if the current "new guy" leaves for a blue blood.  MU can snap up Wardle at that time when he has a little more seasoning.

You can include many of the assistants to this line of thinking as well.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Pakuni on March 28, 2014, 08:18:59 AM
(http://cassymuronaka.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/the-choir.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on March 28, 2014, 08:19:45 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2014, 08:18:59 AM
(http://cassymuronaka.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/the-choir.jpg)

Can I at least get an Amen then? :)
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 28, 2014, 08:21:01 AM
Brian is an up and coming candidate.  If he can prove himself in the next couple of years he will be a head coach somewhere else soon.  If he can, hopefully he is still around the next time we need a coach.  Just because you went to school somewhere does not mean you want to coach there someday.

Lets not burn bridges with Mr. Wardle.  He isn't the choice for the job now, but there should be nothing bad said about the guy here.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on March 28, 2014, 08:22:29 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2014, 08:21:01 AM
Brian is an up and coming candidate.  If he can prove himself in the next couple of years he will be a head coach somewhere else soon.  If he can, hopefully he is still around the next time we need a coach.  Just because you went to school somewhere does not mean you want to coach there someday.

Lets not burn bridges with Mr. Wardle.  He isn't the choice for the job now, but there should be nothing bad said about the guy here.

Where did somebody say anything bad about him?
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 28, 2014, 08:28:02 AM
Quote from: CoachesCorner on March 28, 2014, 08:22:29 AM
Where did somebody say anything bad about him?

No one.  Yet.  Cutting it off before it happens.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Marquette_g on March 28, 2014, 08:30:05 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2014, 08:18:59 AM
(http://cassymuronaka.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/the-choir.jpg)

I wouldn't have expected Virginia Tech to have a choir
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: hairy worthen on March 28, 2014, 08:39:02 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2014, 08:21:01 AM
Brian is an up and coming candidate.  If he can prove himself in the next couple of years he will be a head coach somewhere else soon.  If he can, hopefully he is still around the next time we need a coach.  Just because you went to school somewhere does not mean you want to coach there someday.

Lets not burn bridges with Mr. Wardle.  He isn't the choice for the job now, but there should be nothing bad said about the guy here.

Not sure I would even call him up and coming quite yet. This past season was his first of only four seasons with over 20 wins. Not saying he won't be a candidate some day, but right now he shouldn't be considered by MU.  The only thing that keeps him in the conversation is that he played at MU.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: THRILLHO on March 28, 2014, 08:43:07 AM
Definitely a compelling candidate, and has done nice things in GB, but even with their excellent year this year it's not totally clear whether the program is ascendent or had the stars align. It would be great to see the program continue to improve to top-tier mid-major and maybe make a tournament or two before making a bet on him.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on March 28, 2014, 08:53:48 AM
Quote from: CoachesCorner on March 28, 2014, 08:22:29 AM
Where did somebody say anything bad about him?

I knew him while students at MU, and never really liked him.  He always seems conceited.

I'm sure he's very hurt.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: tower912 on March 28, 2014, 08:55:17 AM
If MU were to hire Howland, and Wardle's career were to continue an ascent,  he could be the guy in 5-7 years.    He is not the guy today.   
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 28, 2014, 09:08:42 AM
Quote from: hairyworthen on March 28, 2014, 08:39:02 AM
Not sure I would even call him up and coming quite yet. This past season was his first of only four seasons with over 20 wins. Not saying he won't be a candidate some day, but right now he shouldn't be considered by MU.  The only thing that keeps him in the conversation is that he played at MU.

He has gotten UWGB to a respectable level in the Horizon... should have probably made the tourney this year.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: dgies9156 on March 28, 2014, 09:11:50 AM
I hesitate to criticize anyone I don't know, as he probably is a decent guy and in time will do great at what he does. For now though, he's not the guy.

He has not recruited at a high D-1 level, Period. The difference between Marquette and UW-GB is the ability to recruit and he isn't there yet. 
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: hairy worthen on March 28, 2014, 09:12:15 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2014, 09:08:42 AM
He has gotten UWGB to a respectable level in the Horizon... should have probably made the tourney this year.

Agree, but only one year.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 28, 2014, 09:14:32 AM
Quote from: hairyworthen on March 28, 2014, 09:12:15 AM
Agree, but only one year.

But this year.  And with his guys.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on March 28, 2014, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 28, 2014, 09:11:50 AM
I hesitate to criticize anyone I don't know, as he probably is a decent guy and in time will do great at what he does. For now though, he's not the guy.

He has not recruited at a high D-1 level, Period. The difference between Marquette and UW-GB is the ability to recruit and he isn't there yet. 

Well we know the pg Wardle recruited is a heck of a lot better than the one Buzz recruited.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: slingkong on March 28, 2014, 10:59:38 AM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on March 28, 2014, 08:53:48 AM
I knew him while students at MU, and never really liked him.  He always seems conceited.

I'm sure he's very hurt.

I knew him a little bit and had the exact opposite opinion. I guess people's mileage varies.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Eldon on March 28, 2014, 11:01:02 AM
Quote from: Marquette_g on March 28, 2014, 08:30:05 AM
I wouldn't have expected Virginia Tech to have a choir

The only one singing its praises is Buzz
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 28, 2014, 11:01:09 AM
Hasn't done stink. This is supposed to be a big time program, aina?
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: willie warrior on March 28, 2014, 12:37:10 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 28, 2014, 08:55:17 AM
If MU were to hire Howland, and Wardle's career were to continue an ascent,  he could be the guy in 5-7 years.    He is not the guy today.   
And who is the guy today? Don't think they are knocking down the doors to get in.

Wardle has more HC experience and wins than the last two HC's combined when hired.

LOL at all the experts out there. Smart: a con man. Howland: issues at UCLA, and likely already pissed off at MU.

I do not want another assistant coach to be hired.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: willie warrior on March 28, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 28, 2014, 11:01:09 AM
Hasn't done stink. This is supposed to be a big time program, aina?
Then where are the big time candidates?
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 28, 2014, 12:50:26 PM
Tough to get when you're a ship without a rutter, hey?
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Goose on March 28, 2014, 12:52:51 PM
Lack of AD leadership is not helping the cause. Cord stating he is here for one year is not what any incoming coach wants to hear.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: willie warrior on March 28, 2014, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2014, 12:52:51 PM
Lack of AD leadership is not helping the cause. Cord stating he is here for one year is not what any incoming coach wants to hear.
yep--so we are screwed.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: chapman on March 28, 2014, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2014, 12:52:51 PM
Lack of AD leadership is not helping the cause. Cord stating he is here for one year is not what any incoming coach wants to hear.

Yep, tabling the search for an AD doesn't convince anyone that there is stability...just tells them that they have to put up with gramps calling pointless press conferences for a year.  Even if the AD isn't in place, I'd rather see the short list now than have a quick fix and have to plan for uncertainty later.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Sharpie on March 28, 2014, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on March 28, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Then where are the big time candidates?

Ideally, who would you suggest marquette go after then? You do a whole helluva lot of complaining around here with no solutions or insight for a gameplan. If you have, I haven't seen it.
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: willie warrior on March 28, 2014, 01:18:47 PM
Quote from: Sharpie on March 28, 2014, 01:10:32 PM
Ideally, who would you suggest marquette go after then? You do a whole helluva lot of complaining around here with no solutions or insight for a gameplan. If you have, I haven't seen it.
Have had solutions--you should try reading. I have said repeatedly we were getting played by Smart. That could have been resolved last week already. I have also said forget asst. coaches. People here are claiming that MU is a big time job and there are big time players interested. OK go after those, since they are beating the door down. Howland was interested-hire him. I do not have the names of all the big time interested parties, but I am doubtful there are that many.

BTW, instead of shooting you mouth off, try reading my posts, instead of slamming them. What are your useful insights?
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: TheTulsaWarrior on March 28, 2014, 01:21:11 PM
Wardle's peeps respect him but that do they know?  http://www.greenbayphoenix.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=22500&ATCLID=209447165
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 28, 2014, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on March 28, 2014, 01:21:11 PM
Wardle's peeps respect him but that do they know?  http://www.greenbayphoenix.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=22500&ATCLID=209447165
I see Mike Heideman won the award for UWGB in 1996. Have we contacted him?
Title: Re: Why Wardle is NOT the guy
Post by: Sharpie on March 28, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on March 28, 2014, 01:18:47 PM
Have had solutions--you should try reading. I have said repeatedly we were getting played by Smart. That could have been resolved last week already. I have also said forget asst. coaches. People here are claiming that MU is a big time job and there are big time players interested. OK go after those, since they are beating the door down. Howland was interested-hire him. I do not have the names of all the big time interested parties, but I am doubtful there are that many.

BTW, instead of shooting you mouth off, try reading my posts, instead of slamming them. What are your useful insights?

All you do is slam posts as well and was just wondering who you think we should go after and why. You said Howland and I agree. But don't just say big time players and then have no concrete suggestions. Wasn't shooting off my mouth. I think we were closer to Shaka than some think. Also think we need grab Howland and nix assistants which is along the same lines as your thinking. You just weren't saying specific candidates in majority of your posts as to who you think we should go after so I was bringing that up. I take it you have a pretty short temper outside of a message board too? Or is that just an internet thing?
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