As a huge Marquette fan I never understood the constant bashing of UD. Anyone still think they suck???
Nope. Congrats to the Flyers.
Quote from: MU72491 on March 27, 2014, 09:21:59 PM
As a huge Marquette fan I never understood the constant bashing of UD. Anyone still think they suck???
I didn't either, other than Dayton is a bit of a hole of a city. But then again, so is Milwaukee.
Quote from: MU72491 on March 27, 2014, 09:21:59 PM
As a huge Marquette fan I never understood the constant bashing of UD. Anyone still think they suck???
+1. Never understood the hatred for ud on this board. I have been there a few times.
Great school. The ghetto is a blast.
The team no, well done
Really happy for Dayton. BIG basketball town. They need to represent the Catholic schools!
How would you view the BE if we took Dayton instead of Butler, had 5 bids and an E8 appearance?
I don't think anyone has an issue with Dayton the school, it's some of their fans that people have an issue with. Anyone think Final Four will = invite? They are an institutional fit for sure. Their two negatives was proximity to Xavier and lack of NCAA success. Final Four pretty much erases one negative. If they make Final Four, invite them along with SLU. This keeps it private, adds two solid programs. SLU is rebuilding next year but having a good Dayton team returning will help offset that and you add two "institutional fits." I think it was between Dayton, VCU and Richmond for #12 anyways, minus well just add them now if the make the Final Four.
Quote from: Jet915 on March 27, 2014, 09:30:32 PM
I don't think anyone has an issue with Dayton the school, it's some of their fans that people have an issue with. Anyone think Final Four will = invite? They are an institutional fit for sure. Their two negatives was proximity to Xavier and lack of NCAA success. Final Four pretty much erases one negative. If they make Final Four, invite them along with SLU. This keeps it private, adds two solid programs. SLU is rebuilding next year but having a good Dayton team returning will help offset that and you add two "institutional fits." I think it was between Dayton, VCU and Richmond for #12 anyways, minus well just add them now if the make the Final Four.
The A10 and BE will merge in a 16 team non-football league. It will be called the BE
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 27, 2014, 09:33:53 PM
The A10 and BE will merge in a 16 team non-football league. It will be called the BE
Are you the source?
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 27, 2014, 09:33:53 PM
The A10 and BE will merge in a 16 team non-football league. It will be called the BE
aren't some A10 schools playing football currently? URI for example?
Quote from: ATWizJr on March 27, 2014, 09:38:07 PM
aren't some A10 schools playing football currently? URI for example?
They are not coming to the BE, only the non-football schools
Quote from: MU72491 on March 27, 2014, 09:21:59 PM
As a huge Marquette fan I never understood the constant bashing of UD. Anyone still think they suck???
Dayton has been consistent the last few years. I would love them to come to the Big East to reestablish their old rivalry with MU.
Nonetheless, they probably lucked a little with their draws. They were better than OSU and Syracuse just hadn't been playing well the last month. Stanford was a matchup that was in Dayton's favor. Nonetheless, they pulled out 3 wins in the tourney. Perhaps Miller should have waited to sign his extension. I think they will put up a decent fight against Florida. Hopefully, anything that has been better than the last 2 rounds of play which have been subpar for the tourney.
I still wouldnt take them. Who knowd how long Archie will be there.
Quote from: atk13thst on March 27, 2014, 10:19:33 PM
I still wouldnt take them. Who knowd how long Archie will be there.
See Stevens, Brad
ABD
Quote from: atk13thst on March 27, 2014, 10:19:33 PM
I still wouldnt take them. Who knowd how long Archie will be there.
They have been pretty good for a while. They have had a great run in the tourney, but in the regular season weren't that much better than previous seasons. They can maintain success without Archie.
Wait until they join our conference and they move the tournament out of MSG and into their arena and then tell us how much you love them! Ironclad deal with MSG my ass! They'll be playing in Dayton!
Unreal. Now Dayton is a game away from the final four and NOW everyone wants them added to the BE. I was all for them in last year's post and got blasted with suggestions the Iona or Richmond would be better options because they were better programs. We need to add them and St. Louis now. Especially good now that Miller got his extension. Need a deeper pool to fill the void when good programs fail like MU and Gtown did this year.
Quote from: GoldenEagle2002 on March 27, 2014, 11:19:58 PM
Unreal. Now Dayton is a game away from the final four and NOW everyone wants them added to the BE. I was all for them in last year's post and got blasted with suggestions the Iona or Richmond would be better options because they were better programs. We need to add them and St. Louis now. Especially good now that Miller got his extension. Need a deeper pool to fill the void when good programs fail like MU and Gtown did this year.
I've always wanted Dayton in the BE. Give me them and a consistent team from the A10 to give the BE some more depth.
Quote from: GoldenEagle2002 on March 27, 2014, 11:19:58 PM
Unreal. Now Dayton is a game away from the final four and NOW everyone wants them added to the BE. I was all for them in last year's post and got blasted with suggestions the Iona or Richmond would be better options because they were better programs. We need to add them and St. Louis now. Especially good now that Miller got his extension. Need a deeper pool to fill the void when good programs fail like MU and Gtown did this year.
Maybe we should invite Richmond so Marquette isn't completely spurned by the state of Virginia
Quote from: GoldenEagle2002 on March 27, 2014, 11:19:58 PM
Unreal. Now Dayton is a game away from the final four and NOW everyone wants them added to the BE.
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Congrats to Dayton, but they absolutely do not belong in our conference. This year changes nothing. If they're playing in the 2nd weekend a few more times in the next 5 years, and with a coach after Archie, then maybe. Three wins does not make a school qualified to join the BE.
I don't see why we need to add anyone. There's nobody out there who will raise the reputation of the BE.
Quote from: GoldenEagle2002 on March 27, 2014, 11:19:58 PM
Unreal. Now Dayton is a game away from the final four and NOW everyone wants them added to the BE. I was all for them in last year's post and got blasted with suggestions the Iona or Richmond would be better options because they were better programs. We need to add them and St. Louis now. Especially good now that Miller got his extension. Need a deeper pool to fill the void when good programs fail like MU and Gtown did this year.
Why do you guys insist that there is a correlation between number of team in the tourney and number of teams in the conference? I mean, look at this year alone
1) Big XII: 10-team conference, 7 bids
2) SEC: 14-team conference, 3 bids
Congrats to the Flyers
Still don't want them in my conference when there are much better options out there
Quote from: drewm88 on March 27, 2014, 11:26:39 PM
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Congrats to Dayton, but they absolutely do not belong in our conference. This year changes nothing. If they're playing in the 2nd weekend a few more times in the next 5 years, and with a coach after Archie, then maybe. Three wins does not make a school qualified to join the BE.
I don't see why we need to add anyone. There's nobody out there who will raise the reputation of the BE.
Could not agree more, I don't understand how people completely change their minds over a team who got hot and won 3 games in the tourney. No disrespect to Dayton, what a run and I am rooting for them, but this is a team that made their first Sweet 16 in 35 years last weekend.....that is pathetic.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 27, 2014, 10:17:19 PM
Dayton has been consistent the last few years. I would love them to come to the Big East to reestablish their old rivalry with MU.
Nonetheless, they probably lucked a little with their draws. They were better than OSU and Syracuse just hadn't been playing well the last month. Stanford was a matchup that was in Dayton's favor. Nonetheless, they pulled out 3 wins in the tourney. Perhaps Miller should have waited to sign his extension. I think they will put up a decent fight against Florida. Hopefully, anything that has been better than the last 2 rounds of play which have been subpar for the tourney.
Oh please. To say they lucked out by beating tOSU is ridiculous and discredits our teams job well done last yr.
there were plenty of people on this Board who wanted no part of Dayton in the New BEast. Now they are dancing while we are swinging in the noose.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 28, 2014, 12:05:28 AM
Congrats to the Flyers
Still don't want them in my conference when there are much better options out there
Right. Lets not be a prisoner of the moment. Adding them will only dilute the conference. I say be stay at 10.
Living in OH - their fans are insufferable. Don't look bad on TV. Seems all good, until you have to talk to them. They talk like they're Duke, but just can't figure out why don't get any respect. And that was long before this tournament started.
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 27, 2014, 09:34:45 PM
The A10 and BE will merge in a 16 team non-football league. It will be called the BE
Are you the source?
You have to respect the process.
Dayton has problems beyond court performance.
They have done nothing to improve the imagine of Dayton beyond that of a mid-major. That's the big problem in my book. In fact, I think they embrace being the mid-major.
They have never stepped up to the plate to pay a coach, their arena is cracker jack at best, the NCAA first round brings a poor presence to Dayton and their overall commitment to athletics isn't there.
I'd welcome Dayton into the conference if they make some commitments to their facilities (all sports) and start acting like they belong. Until they stop carrying their president through the streets of Dayton after making the Sweet 16, they shouldn't be welcome.
Quote from: PTM on March 28, 2014, 08:30:09 AM
Dayton has problems beyond court performance.
They have done nothing to improve the imagine of Dayton beyond that of a mid-major. That's the big problem in my book. In fact, I think they embrace being the mid-major.
They have never stepped up to the plate to pay a coach, their arena is cracker jack at best, the NCAA first round brings a poor presence to Dayton and their overall commitment to athletics isn't there.
I'd welcome Dayton into the conference if they make some commitments to their facilities (all sports) and start acting like they belong. Until they stop carrying their president through the streets of Dayton after making the Sweet 16, they shouldn't be welcome.
I have my issues with Dayton but I think you are being a bit unfair. Didn't they just give Miller a big raise? Their arena would be one of the biggest in the Big East. And I don't view the First Four being held there as either a detriment or an advantage, but Dayton could always get rid of it if they really wanted to.
They are not my first choice but the Big East could certainly do worse.
Everyone criticizing the fact that Dayton could get an invite after only winning "a few games in the tourney" should reflect on what the 2003 season meant to Marquette.
Winning a few games in the tourney got us in the Big East.
Quote from: drewm88 on March 27, 2014, 11:26:39 PM
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Congrats to Dayton, but they absolutely do not belong in our conference. This year changes nothing. If they're playing in the 2nd weekend a few more times in the next 5 years, and with a coach after Archie, then maybe. Three wins does not make a school qualified to join the BE.
By that logic DePaul, Seton Hall, St Johns and Providence should be kicked out of the Big East.
Dayton and St Louis NOW please. Big East needs to continue to inject energy and enthusiasm into the conference.
The fact that Dayton's fans are insufferable is what makes a great fanbase, even if we can't stand them...they are passionate, travel well, very proud, obnoxious, etc.
As a conference, this is what you want in a fan base. The last thing you want is indifference (See DePaul).
Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 28, 2014, 08:35:47 AM
I have my issues with Dayton but I think you are being a bit unfair. Didn't they just give Miller a big raise? Their arena would be one of the biggest in the Big East. And I don't view the First Four being held there as either a detriment or an advantage, but Dayton could always get rid of it if they really wanted to.
They are not my first choice but the Big East could certainly do worse.
Archie got an extension, but he hasn't be courted yet. They'll need to step up when programs start sniffing around, we'll see what happens then.
Have you been to the Dayton Arena? Worst than the Allstate Arena and the visiting team locker rooms are worst than Wrigley.
Been a Dayton supporter all along. This hasn't changed that. My biggest concerns about Dayton are having 2 teams in the same market and perception. Having said that, I am very happy for them. I remember fondly how exciting it is to go to an elite 8. Let them have their fun.
Quote from: tower912 on March 28, 2014, 08:58:33 AM
Been a Dayton supporter all along. This hasn't changed that. My biggest concerns about Dayton are having 2 teams in the same market and perception. Having said that, I am very happy for them. I remember fondly how exciting it is to go to an elite 8. Let them have their fun.
1. But those two teams, Dayton and Xavier, are rivals and rivalries are what makes great conferences.
2. Dayton and Cincinatti are two different media markets within Ohio. Kind of like Chicago and Rockford.
3. Dayton is 48 miles from Xavier. St Johns is 40 miles from Seton Hall. Marquette is all of 80 miles from DePaul.