So we got no movement from the press conference today... could it be that MU is targeting someone who is still coaching, perhaps someone who would be an even bigger impact than Shaka or Howland?
Other than Tony -- who I hope they at least kick the tires there -- what coach has a team that still playing that and could be attracted to MU under the right circumstances... (my answers are bolded)
Billy D - Just extended at Florida.
S Miller - AZ seems to be happy with their renaissance, but has ties to Pitt and WI. If BE invites Dayton, why wouldn't he dismiss a chance to coach against his brother twice a year?
A Miller - Just extended at Dayton; however, Google "Alford" "New Mexico" and "Extension". Not impact, though.
Izzo - If he isn't going to the NBA, he's certainly not going to MU.
Pitino - Going to die in Kentucky. One way or another.
Drew - Midwestern guy. Butler grad. Devout Christian. Recent Success.
Beilein - Jesuit-educated? Check. Impact? Check.
Calipari - Not unless we want that NCAA investigation
Martin - Already speculated... not anywhere near the impact of Shaka or Howland
Bo - Not unless MU is being rolled into the WI pension system
Alford - I suppose after doing what he did to UNM, he could do the same to UCLA and come back to the Midwest? Though we run the risk of eventually losing another coach to IU.
Hoiberg - If I didn't say IA State, would you even know who this was?
Ollie - Handpicked successor to Calhoun; way too entrenched in Storrs.
Fisher - I suppose he's more of a local guy to MU than SDSU, but a guy turning 70 soon really isn't going to be an impact hire. More of a stopgap.
Dawkins - Probably going to succeed Coach K at Duke eventually (if Wojie doesn't get it).
Phil Jackson is probably out too, aina?
Steve Alford is probably the last person that this university, or any for that matter, should want involved with their basketball program. Especially in light of the highly publicized allegations which occurred under the previous coaching staff. Alford is despicable trash.
I'd think Hoiberg and Dawkins would be above Alford and Drew. I also don't think any of the four would be the guy.
Waiting for the Bulls season to end so they can hire Thibs.
There is stink all over the Baylor program- no way I'd want Drew.
Billy Donovan's not coming now?
Wait til he gets the title then he'll reconsider.
Had Wichita State advanced to the Sweet Sixteen, what percent of those on this board would assume Marquette was waiting on Marshall?
It would seem the intent of the press conference today was to buy time - it doesn't seem an announcement is coming in the next day or two - and gives credence to the thought that maybe Bennett is a candidate. It would be interesting to see how his style of play would go over. It would also be interesting to see if he has expressed some interest through backchannels now, to see if that interest would be maintained if Virginia advanced to the Final Four or beyond. Not beyond the realm of possibility - a very good team this year.
In regard to Holland, its been reported that he is very interested in the job. How do we know that he is asking for too much money? If he is, what other available openings are there that would pay him more? From the beginning, he's seemed to make the most sense. A guy with very good credentials who wouldn't necessarily leave to go back to a blue blood program. While the issues he endured at UCLA are troubling, how much of those troubles would be due to the culture unique at UCLA and not translate to Milwaukee.
Ben > Shaka > Dixon > Brey
(I recall early threads throwing Dixon and Brey in the mix)
Anyone like Weber, Martin, a Cuse assistant, etc., and I will be disappointed
Sean Miller is not leaving Arizona to come to Marquette
Steve Alford is not leaving UCLA to come to Marquette
John Beilein is not leaving Michigan to come to Marquette
Why does this post even need to be typed? Everyone... stop the madness. It makes all of us look foolish.
How come you never hear Josh Pastner name in the mix. Memphis is in a worse conference situation than we are so it could be viewed as an upgrade. Josh has a rep as a great recruiter from his AZ days, in fact he's beating us on a few guys like Tarik Black. Teams been relatively successful. Young lots of energy.
Warrants a call in my book.
Quote from: Eldon on March 27, 2014, 03:13:02 PM
Ben > Shaka > Dixon > Brey
(I recall early threads throwing Dixon and Brey in the mix)
Anyone like Weber, Martin, a Cuse assistant, etc., and I will be disappointed
Jaime Dixon is not leaving Pittsburgh to come to Marquette.
Mike Brey is not leaving Notre Dame to come to Marquette.
You didn't mention Billy D is not coming......hmmmm.
Of the bolds: we're not stealing a coach from a blue blood (S Miller, Alford), Drew is a scumbag, I'd hire a garbage can over Martin, Beilein is 61 which makes Howland look youthful. Archie is the only option that doesn't suck, but he is not better than Shaka or Howland.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 27, 2014, 03:15:02 PM
How come you never hear Josh Pastner name in the mix. Memphis is in a worse conference situation than we are so it could be viewed as an upgrade. Josh has a rep as a great recruiter from his AZ days, in fact he's beating us on a few guys like Tarik Black. Teams been relatively successful. Young lots of energy.
Warrants a call in my book.
And we can get Aki Collins back as an assistant!
Benny B you are making one bold assumption, and that's the mystery candidate is a head coach. Could easily be an assistant.
Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2014, 03:16:48 PM
Jaime Dixon is not leaving Pittsburgh to come to Marquette.
Mike Brey is not leaving Notre Dame to come to Marquette.
FWIW, these two both crossed my mind as possibilities if the top tier didn't work out. Wouldn't be the most far fetched thing that either of these coaches would want back into the Big East, especially since their schools are going to be middle of the pack ACC at best.
Longshots, sure, but not completely unrealistic, IMO.
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 27, 2014, 03:17:53 PM
You didn't mention Billy D is not coming......hmmmm.
It wasn't bold in the OP, but if you really need it:
Billy Donovan is not coming.
Rick Pitino is not coming.
Anyone else who finished in the top 3/4 of the ACC (probably including Virginia) is not coming.
Anyone in the Big 10 is not coming.
Anyone who made the tournament from the Big 12 is not coming, aside from possibly but probably not Scott Drew and Bruce Weber.
Anyone who finished in the top half of the Pac-12 is not coming.
Anyone who finished in the top half of the SEC is not coming, aside from maybe Martin.
Get the pattern? This is a conservative list and not to be considered complete. Please, stop the madness.
Quote from: Ahoya06 on March 27, 2014, 03:24:32 PM
FWIW, these two both crossed my mind as possibilities if the top tier didn't work out. Wouldn't be the most far fetched thing that either of these coaches would want back into the Big East, especially since their schools are going to be middle of the pack ACC at best.
Longshots, sure, but not completely unrealistic, IMO.
I'd say Brey is highly, highly doubtful and Dixon is no chance in hell.
Out of curiosity, was the unnamed current coach, that is still coaching in the tournament, revealed as a head coach? Could it be an assistant?
Quote from: My source on March 27, 2014, 03:09:34 PM
Waiting for the Bulls season to end so they can hire Thibs.
Mike D'Antoni
Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
It wasn't bold in the OP, but if you really need it:
Billy Donovan is not coming.
Rick Pitino is not coming.
Anyone else who finished in the top 3/4 of the ACC (probably including Virginia) is not coming.
Anyone in the Big 10 is not coming.
Anyone who made the tournament from the Big 12 is not coming, aside from possibly but probably not Scott Drew and Bruce Weber.
Anyone who finished in the top half of the Pac-12 is not coming.
Anyone who finished in the top half of the SEC is not coming, aside from maybe Martin.
Get the pattern? This is a conservative list and not to be considered complete. Please, stop the madness.
Ok, bud. You just lost any credibility that you had.
Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
Sean Miller is not leaving Arizona to come to Marquette
Steve Alford is not leaving UCLA to come to Marquette
John Beilein is not leaving Michigan to come to Marquette
Why does this post even need to be typed? Everyone... stop the madness. It makes all of us look foolish.
Jeez, no kidding. Marquette has NO SHOT at any of those three nor would they EVER be interested.
Jim Larranga?
No, there isn't.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 27, 2014, 03:28:29 PM
Out of curiosity, was the unnamed current coach, that is still coaching in the tournament, revealed as a head coach? Could it be an assistant?
Virginia head coach Tony Bennett
Still left in the NIT:
Brad Brownell--Clemson (was Wainwright's asst at UNC Wilmington)
Larry Brown--SMU
Richard Pitino--MINN
Leonard Hamilton--FLA ST
don't want the first and can't see any of the others coming, for various reasons. I don't see anyone left in the NCAA, save Martin, coming to MU
Quote from: ATLmarquettefan on March 27, 2014, 03:23:32 PM
Benny B you are making one bold assumption, and that's the mystery candidate is a head coach. Could easily be an assistant.
I don't think MU is going to be hiring an assistant coach... Cords threw down the "we'll get the best guy" gauntlet in the presser earlier. If he's going to concede that the best guy MU can get is an assistant, then I hope Lovell puts Cords on the fastest bus back to Wyoming.
Quote from: Eldon on March 27, 2014, 03:31:11 PM
Ok, bud. You just lost any credibility that you had.
I don't have any credibility and I never claimed to. I'm just a loser on a message board that should be working.
And you're right about the Big 10 coaches, so I'll amend:
No chance in 1,000,000 years: Mich St, Mich, Wisc, Indiana, Ohio St, Purdue
Really, really, really unlikely: Illinois, Iowa
Would jump at the offer, but it's not coming: Minn, Nebr, NW, Penn St
And the SEC you just might be right but is there really anyone there we care about?
No chance in 1,000,000 years: UK, UF, Vandy (Stallings isn't leaving his 15 year gig for MU)
I guess, but are they really worth worrying about: Alabama (Grant), Missouri (Haith), South Carolina (F Martin)
Maybe, but I still think probably not: Tennessee (Cuonzo Martin)
And the rest of the conference is not worth mentioning.
Better?
From nearly the get go Goose and Keefe have said they would be happy with any coach on MU's list
Shaka Smart
Tony Bennett
Ben Howland
Gregg Marshall
To my knowledge none of these 4 have officially turned MU down. Respect the process!
Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
Sean Miller is not leaving Arizona to come to Marquette
Steve Alford is not leaving UCLA to come to Marquette
John Beilein is not leaving Michigan to come to Marquette
Why does this post even need to be typed? Everyone... stop the madness. It makes all of us look foolish.
The foolish thing to do would be to write-off a potential candidate simply because you have an inferiority complex. You don't know what these guys' personal situation, desires, goals, etc. are. For all you know Sean Miller is married to a Chicago girl whose mother is sick. Beilein might be sick of playing second fiddle to foosball. Brey might rather play in a conference where he actually has a chance to compete for a conference championship every year.
I'm sorry... but MU is being linked to one guy who took UCLA to three FF's and was canned after winning the Pac-12 outright and another guy who turned down UCLA. UCLA is the bluest of the blue-bloods, and we're in the hunt for two guys who were (and still are) good enough for the house that Wooden built?
Please... stop listening to ESPN and everyone else who wants to trash your conference/school because you don't have a football championship. MU is the best job available right now, and likely would have been the top HC job available over any of the last few years (except UCLA, of course).
VPI could have written off Bazz after he turned down SMU, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Illinois, etc. etc.... but they still made the call, didn't they? Because here we are.
Quote from: Benny B on March 27, 2014, 03:50:12 PM
The foolish thing to do would be to write-off a potential candidate simply because you have an inferiority complex. You don't know what these guys' personal situation, desires, goals, etc. are. For all you know Sean Miller is married to a Chicago girl whose mother is sick. Beilein might be sick of playing second fiddle to foosball. Brey might rather play in a conference where he actually has a chance to compete for a conference championship every year.
I'm sorry... but MU is being linked to one guy who took UCLA to three FF's and was canned after winning the Pac-12 outright and another guy who turned down UCLA. UCLA is the bluest of the blue-bloods, and we're in the hunt for two guys who were (and still are) good enough for the house that Wooden built?
Please... stop listening to ESPN and everyone else who wants to trash your conference/school because you don't have a football championship. MU is the best job available right now, and likely would have been the top HC job available over any of the last few years (except UCLA, of course).
VPI could have written off Bazz after he turned down SMU, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Illinois, etc. etc.... but they still made the call, didn't they? Because he we are.
If you're going to keep posting reasonable things, you might need to leave the board. I don't know what to do with this.
Quote from: Benny B on March 27, 2014, 03:50:12 PM
The foolish thing to do would be to write-off a potential candidate simply because you have an inferiority complex. You don't know what these guys' personal situation, desires, goals, etc. are. For all you know Sean Miller is married to a Chicago girl whose mother is sick. Beilein might be sick of playing second fiddle to foosball. Brey might rather play in a conference where he actually has a chance to compete for a conference championship every year.
I'm sorry... but MU is being linked to one guy who took UCLA to three FF's and was canned after winning the Pac-12 outright and another guy who turned down UCLA. UCLA is the bluest of the blue-bloods, and we're in the hunt for two guys who were (and still are) good enough for the house that Wooden built?
Please... stop listening to ESPN and everyone else who wants to trash your conference/school because you don't have a football championship. MU is the best job available right now, and likely would have been the top HC job available over any of the last few years (except UCLA, of course).
VPI could have written off Bazz after he turned down SMU, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Illinois, etc. etc.... but they still made the call, didn't they? Because here we are.
MU may be the best job available, but that doesn't make it the best job out there. You put Alford on the list! There is literally no chance that the current coach of UCLA is ever taking the Marquette job. None.
Quote from: cj111 on March 27, 2014, 03:53:08 PM
If you're going to keep posting reasonable things, you might need to leave the board. I don't know what to do with this.
It is not reasonable to consider John Beilein, Sean Miller, and Steve Alford potentially reasonable candidates for the Marquette job. It just isn't.
Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2014, 04:04:18 PM
It is not reasonable to consider John Beilein, Sean Miller, and Steve Alford potentially reasonable candidates for the Marquette job. It just isn't.
I don't think for a second that any of them are coming either, but that's not what he said. He said that it doesn't hurt to ask if these people are interested. There's a difference.
This is how I see it.
Howland=73.5%
Smart=15%
Marshall=5%
Martin=3%
Waddle=2%
?=1.5%
I will be fired up if we Ben Howland or Shaka everybody else is not an impact hire unless the 1.5% gets the job and that somebody is currently the headcoach of a Big10, SEC, or ACC team that is playing tonight or tomorrow.
Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2014, 04:03:12 PM
MU may be the best job available, but that doesn't make it the best job out there. You put Alford on the list! There is literally no chance that the current coach of UCLA is ever taking the Marquette job. None.
So what you're saying is that there's no chance of getting the current UCLA coach, but his immediate predecessor, not to mention the guy who was the #1 choice ahead of the current coach, have both already spoken to MU?
I will dismiss the guy as a candidate because he's a scumbag. I won't dismiss him because I think he's unattainable.
Quote from: Benny B on March 27, 2014, 04:18:44 PM
So what you're saying is that there's no chance of getting the current UCLA coach, but his immediate predecessor, not to mention the guy who was the #1 choice ahead of the current coach, have both already spoken to MU?
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying.
Quote from: TJ on March 27, 2014, 03:16:48 PM
Jaime Dixon is not leaving Pittsburgh to come to Marquette.
Mike Brey is not leaving Notre Dame to come to Marquette.
Why would MU even be interested in Brey leaving ND for MU? Gag.
How about this guy?
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The cat, not the Oompa Loompa.
Whoever it ends up being, I would be willing to bet that we'll at least know who it's going to be by the time the first pitch is thrown on Monday. Reality is, its only been a week, and nobody of note has been hired anywhere else in that week.