I've been scanning the VCU boards. The latest rumor is that they're scrounging up money to buy out of the A10 and go to the Big East.
If that is the case then, Shaka isn't coming here. Seems to me the purpose of his media machine is to stay relevant in the public eye and boost VCU to keep changing conferences for more money.
Big East isn't expanding before VCU would have to pay for the buyout.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 12:56:12 PM
I've been scanning the VCU boards. The latest rumor is that they're scrounging up money to buy out of the A10 and go to the Big East.
If that is the case then, Shaka isn't coming here. Seems to me the purpose of his media machine is to stay relevant in the public eye and boost VCU to keep changing conferences for more money.
That was the poster's first post on the VCU board. Some of us don't like to listen to rumors.
Quote from: Gopher+RamFan on March 26, 2014, 12:58:33 PM
That was the poster's first post on the VCU board. Some of us don't like to listen to rumors.
His name by chance isn't MUInsider, is it?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 26, 2014, 12:59:39 PM
His name by chance isn't MUInsider, is it?
Or, at the very least, VCUOutsider
Are they also taking the school private?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 12:56:12 PM
I've been scanning the VCU boards. The latest rumor is that they're scrounging up money to buy out of the A10 and go to the Big East.
If that is the case then, Shaka isn't coming here. Seems to me the purpose of his media machine is to stay relevant in the public eye and boost VCU to keep changing conferences for more money.
If they have to "scroung" up money to buy out the A-10 (million dollars?), probably not Big East material.
Will ESPN approve?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 12:56:12 PM
I've been scanning the VCU boards. The latest rumor is that they're scrounging up money to buy out of the A10 and go to the Big East.
If that is the case then, Shaka isn't coming here. Seems to me the purpose of his media machine is to stay relevant in the public eye and boost VCU to keep changing conferences for more money.
I wouldn't take what they say too seriously. I was reading their board and one of them claimed that they accidentally walked on Shaka changing clothes in the mens locker room at the athletic facility. Poster said that Shaka actually has wings, finally confirming his long-held belief.
Stop posting bleeping unsubstantiated rumors! Haven't we learned anything this week... ?-(
His name was VCUtoBEInsiderDoneDeal.
Quote from: Warriors+Rams on March 26, 2014, 01:04:26 PM
His name was VCUtoBEInsiderDoneDeal.
I was expecting better from you.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 12:56:12 PM
I've been scanning the VCU boards. The latest rumor is that they're scrounging up money to buy out of the A10 and go to the Big East.
Scrounging? They are shaking all university office furniture for loose change.
Quote from: PTM on March 26, 2014, 12:57:38 PM
Big East isn't expanding before VCU would have to pay for the buyout.
+1
If I take this seriously.
1) Does Fox Sports Approve?
2) Is Georgetown OK with it (TV market angle).
3) most (not all) conference movements are even numbers. That is why we are 10. So who else comes with them to make it 12 (or 14)?
4) Is the rest of the BE OK diluting their Fox deal?
5) If we are expanding, are their other A10 or Horizon schools that will jump first, that are more attractive?
I know, don't let the facts get in the way of a good idea.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 26, 2014, 01:09:45 PM
Scrounging? They are shaking all university office furniture for loose change.
Spotted across the VCU campus today.
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Quote from: Heisenberg on March 26, 2014, 01:16:27 PM
+1
If I take this seriously.
1) Does Fox Sports Approve?
2) Is Georgetown OK with it (TV market angle).
3) most (not all) conference movements are even numbers. That is why we are 10. So who else comes with them to make it 12 (or 14)?
4) Is the rest of the BE OK diluting their Fox deal?
5) If we are expanding, are their other A10 or Horizon schools that will jump first, that are more attractive?
I know, don't let the facts get in the way of a good idea.
Horizon schools jumping to BE? Georgetown's problem with VCU isn't market share, it's winning recruiting battles in the Va Beach area.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 26, 2014, 01:09:45 PM
Scrounging? They are shaking all university office furniture for loose change.
I know a way VCU might be able to come up with some quick cash...have their coach bought out. Just sayin'.
VCU has an endowment of $1.327 Billion, not sure if scrounging would be correct.
If hypothetically it was happening, I'm sure the AD would be requesting donations regardless. Any perceived "good news" should be followed strongly by a fundraising campaign.
Man, these VCU fans, I tell you...
I come on my beloved Scoop, here they are
I go over to Holyland to shoot the breeze with some Seton Hall and Providence bros...there they are
I go over to the Wake Forest board to gauge the level of their resources...you guessed it
"nah nah nah nah nah nah, you can't have him [Shaka]" and
"What does Wake Forest actually mean anyway? Who names their school for the forest that surrounds it?"
To really top it off, I go over to the Oregon State board to get some info on a Milwaukee recruit they are looking at....who do I find? I find the poster "ShakaGod"
"No way Craig Robinson [current head bball coach, brother Michelle Obama] has a closer relationship to President Obama than Shaka Smart does!"
also there was "ShakyaDropya"
"Yea. Craig Robinson? Pfft. You guys are beavers! The President has had Shaka speak with him on multiple occasions. On weekends, President Obama and Shaka have a beer together at the Fan on campus [note that I've seen VCU fans so much, I know the f*cking names of the buildings on campus]"
And, of course, the poster "Beavers+Rams" chimed in with
"Yea, I'm a finance major and I often have dinner with a wealthy donor and he told me that Shaka uses Air Force one for recruiting once in a while, especially for West Coast recruits."
They are everywhere I tell ya. And it's annoying.
Quote from: Gopher+RamFan on March 26, 2014, 01:30:22 PM
VCU has an endowment of $1.327 Billion, not sure if scrounging would be correct.
If hypothetically it was happening, I'm sure the AD would be requesting donations regardless. Any perceived "good news" should be followed strongly by a fundraising campaign.
Those who are wont to elaborate on their "endowment" usually aren't that well endowed... NOW GET BACK IN YER Ford F-350 and GIT, GopherRam!
Quote from: markwet on March 26, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
Those who are wont to elaborate on their "endowment" usually aren't that well endowed... NOW GET BACK IN YER Ford F-350 and GIT, GopherRam!
I was born in Wisconsin, so don't really have a southern accent. Calm yourself.
Quote from: Gopher+RamFan on March 26, 2014, 01:38:44 PM
I was born in Wisconsin, so don't really have a southern accent. Calm yourself.
now you do.
Quote from: Gopher+RamFan on March 26, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
Horizon schools jumping to BE? Georgetown's problem with VCU isn't market share, it's winning recruiting battles in the Va Beach area.
Where did Butler come from?
VCU fans are the nouveau riche among college basketball fans. They are still so giddy from 2011, they don't know how to handle their success. So they go to other boards and talk about how every other program is not worthy of Shaka.
They are the ones who go buy the flashy Rolex with Daddy's money, while MU fans are content with a classic, well-built Hamilton. They are confident enough that they don't need to go to other boards and brag about their successes.
I can't imagine the A-10 buyout is what is keeping VCU from jumping to the Big East. They have plenty of money. Anyway, this "newest rumor" has been around ever since the Catholic 7 broke off.
Finally, I also can't imagine that the prospect of of VCU at some point joining the Big East is going to be a determining factor for Shaka.
For the Big East to expand VCU would have to "buy in" as well because we arent going to get a new FS1 contract and we arent going to dilute our $5 mil share either.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 01:42:36 PM
VCU fans are the nouveau riche among college basketball fans. They are still so giddy from 2011, they don't know how to handle their success. So they go to other boards and talk about how every other program is not worthy of Shaka.
They are the ones who go buy the flashy Rolex with Daddy's money, while MU fans are content with a classic, well-built Hamilton. They are confident enough that they don't need to go to other boards and brag about their successes.
No one said Minnesota, Maryland, UCLA, Marquette, Illinois were not fine programs. Nor did anyone say Shaka was too good for them. As a fanbase, we pretty much go through this every, single, year. The fans of the prospect school always state things like "he'd be stupid not to take a raise" "this will be a bump up in competition, and a better conference" "how could he not say yes!"
Fans of Minnesota, ILL even played the "he'll be closer to home" "he loves the Cubs, he wants to be closer to Chicago".
To say VCU fans have heard all these things before would be an understatement. It's not
Presumptive of them to feel confident that their coach will stay. Not saying he's a lifer, but come on.
I know it was just a comparison, but it's ironic to compare fans of a 30k public research university as "nouveau riche" against a private institution as Marquette. The demographics couldn't be farther than the truth.
Quote from: Gopher+RamFan on March 26, 2014, 01:54:10 PM
I know it was just a comparison, but it's ironic to compare fans of a 30k public research university as "nouveau riche" against a private institution as Marquette. The demographics couldn't be farther than the truth.
Says the fan who came on our board bragging about VCU's endowment.
You clearly know nothing about Marquette, its Jesuit ideals, and mission to service, urban issues, and first generation students. Move along.
Quote from: Gopher+RamFan on March 26, 2014, 01:30:22 PM
VCU has an endowment of $1.327 Billion, not sure if scrounging would be correct.
If hypothetically it was happening, I'm sure the AD would be requesting donations regardless. Any perceived "good news" should be followed strongly by a fundraising campaign.
Since I don't know the details of the VCU endowment I can only make some general comments.
Having been involved in a number of capital campaigns, the most recent a $100 million campaign for the all boy's private school my son attended, I can tell you that most donations are given with a specific purpose or destination at the time of the donation.
I'm not questioning the stated amount of the VCU endowment but it's important to note that most of that money is untouchable for something like a buyout. Often much of the money is in trusts and estates and the rest heavily invested so not liquid in any sense.
Funds allocated to a general fund tend to be the smallest amounts of any allocation since they are subject to annual budget consideration.
Funds for a buyout would come from wealthy donors friendly to the athletic program asked to assist in the process...that's what they are there for aren't they? ;)
Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 01:57:36 PM
Says the fan who came on our board bragging about VCU's endowment.
You clearly know nothing about Marquette, its Jesuit ideals, and mission to service, urban issues, and first generation students. Move along.
Not bragging, responding to posts about VCU "scrounging" up funds. I don't like to talk in generalities like "VCU is fine when it comes to money" when I can point to undeniable facts, such endowment.
Quote from: texaswarrior74 on March 26, 2014, 01:57:47 PM
Since I don't know the details of the VCU endowment I can only make some general comments.
Having been involved in a number of capital campaigns, the most recent a $100 million campaign for the all boy's private school my son attended, I can tell you that most donations are given with a specific purpose or destination at the time of the donation.
I'm not questioning the stated amount of the VCU endowment but it's important to note that most of that money is untouchable for something like a buyout. Often much of the money is in trusts and estates and the rest heavily invested so not liquid in any sense.
Funds allocated to a general fund tend to be the smallest amounts of any allocation since they are subject to annual budget consideration.
Funds for a buyout would come from wealthy donors friendly to the athletic program asked to assist in the process...that's what they are there for aren't they? ;)
Yes most endowment are fairly static, in nature. But they also reflect the overall monetary value of an institutional, in fairly simple figure. A 1 Million buyout, and 5 million dollar buy in, to the BE is a big commitment. But its not as if VCU would struggle to come up with the money from the same donors (and new corporate ones) who have helped before. Some parts of the endowment can be liquidated fairly easily for such a buy out, if need be.
Quote from: Gopher+RamFan on March 26, 2014, 02:00:56 PM
Not bragging, responding to posts about VCU "scrounging" up funds. I don't like to talk in generalities like "VCU is fine when it comes to money" when I can point to undeniable facts, such endowment.
For a bunch that considers themselves quite the tricksters, what with your phony message board IDs and Twitter accounts, you sure take yourselves pretty seriously.
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Quote from: Pakuni on March 26, 2014, 02:18:36 PM
For a bunch that considers themselves quite the tricksters, what with your phony message board IDs and Twitter accounts, you sure take yourselves pretty seriously.
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+1. Man, all of these threads are being derailed. And I don't mind
For anyone out there who still remembers what the Superbar is, I started a "Shaka Smart Waiting Lounge" thread with the intent that all of the fooling around could happen there while we wait.
Quote from: Eldon on March 26, 2014, 02:49:36 PM
+1. Man, all of these threads are being derailed. And I don't mind
For anyone out there who still remembers what the Superbar is, I started a "Shaka Smart Waiting Lounge" thread with the intent that all of the fooling around could happen there while we wait.
We'll consolidate later and create an even craptasiticular thread than the last. For now, enjoy the buffet.