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Title: IWB on twitter
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 24, 2014, 01:14:43 PM
predicts Shaka to MU

Jim Ganzer‏@theIWB·9m
I am predicting Shaka Smart will be the new coach at Marquette. #mubb
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 24, 2014, 01:16:00 PM
Is Jim Ganzer reliable?  No hate to him I only met the guy a couple times in class. 
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Chili on March 24, 2014, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: PunchingPiper on March 24, 2014, 01:16:00 PM
Is Jim Ganzer reliable?  No hate to him I only met the guy a couple times in class. 

When it comes MU, probably the most reliable.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 24, 2014, 01:18:59 PM
When IWB speaks, you listen. The man knows his stuff and would not post something like this if he did not believe it to be 100% true.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 24, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/652/cache/pope-selection-white-smoke_65226_600x450.jpg)
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: MuMark on March 24, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
When it comes to MU he is as reliable as it gets.......and you didn't meet him in class...he never went to MU.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 24, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 24, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/652/cache/pope-selection-white-smoke_65226_600x450.jpg)

Post of the year.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Eldon on March 24, 2014, 01:21:04 PM
Quote from: PunchingPiper on March 24, 2014, 01:16:00 PM
Is Jim Ganzer reliable?  No hate to him I only met the guy a couple times in class. 

LOL who do you think Ganzer is?
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: LastWarrior on March 24, 2014, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: PunchingPiper on March 24, 2014, 01:16:00 PM
Is Jim Ganzer reliable?  No hate to him I only met the guy a couple times in class. 

He's the best insider for MU.  Wow...
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 24, 2014, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: MuMark on March 24, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
When it comes to MU he is as reliable as it gets.......and you didn't meet him in class...he never went to MU.

He was thinking of Jim Gantner and the good ol' days at UW-O
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: MUBillsTil2017 on March 24, 2014, 01:22:01 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 24, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/652/cache/pope-selection-white-smoke_65226_600x450.jpg)

Damn that's funny.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Litehouse on March 24, 2014, 01:22:43 PM
I don't want to get let down by this one.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Coleman on March 24, 2014, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 24, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/652/cache/pope-selection-white-smoke_65226_600x450.jpg)

Love it
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: BlindboyPatSmith on March 24, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on March 24, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
Post of the year.

+1
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 24, 2014, 01:24:12 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 24, 2014, 01:21:04 PM
LOL who do you think Ganzer is?

Unless there was another Jim Ganzer at MU, a MU 2013 grad. 
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: MARQTTE on March 24, 2014, 01:24:25 PM
I know him personally.  Very Reliable.  But, he says 'prediction' so it doesn't sound like he has inside info on this.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Henry Sugar on March 24, 2014, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: MuMark on March 24, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
When it comes to MU he is as reliable as it gets.......and you didn't meet him in class...he never went to MU.

Quote from: Chili on March 24, 2014, 01:18:54 PM
When it comes MU, probably the most reliable.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=42704.msg588340#msg588340

just sayin'
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Dish on March 24, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
If you search Shaka Smart Marquette on twitter, it's a "thing" right now.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: keefe on March 24, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Chili on March 24, 2014, 01:18:54 PM
When it comes MU, probably the most reliable.


Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! What the hell are Goose and I??? Chopped Texan Liver??
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
Wouldn't ya love to see VCUInsider eat chit right now?
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: cet3717 on March 24, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
Per Jerry Meyer@jerrymeyer247  twitter  Shaka to MU very likely to happen & happen soon
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: esotericmindguy on March 24, 2014, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: MARQTTE on March 24, 2014, 01:24:25 PM
I know him personally.  Very Reliable.  But, he says 'prediction' so it doesn't sound like he has inside info on this.

He used to post on this board quite a bit. It was awesome. Everything he said came true. He would tweet that without very good information. He also organizes the summer league every year.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: NersEllenson on March 24, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
Wouldn't ya love to see VCUInsider eat chit right now?

Only thing is, is that VCU Insider said Shaka WAS coming to Marquette..it would prove him right....and I'd be freaking ecstatic!
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: chapman on March 24, 2014, 01:33:02 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
Wouldn't ya love to see VCUInsider eat chit right now?

A valuable lesson: Be careful what you troll about, it just might come true.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: AlumKCof93 on March 24, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
It this happens amazing.

Had VCU been in the Big East, would this have still happened?  See very few times a coach switches schools in the same conference.  Could staying at 10 schools last year be one of the best decisions made in the past year?
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: RyanConroy on March 24, 2014, 01:34:39 PM
Somewhat of an interesting corroboration on Twitter from the head coach at Manual H.S. in Peoria:

@Dwilliams1515 "Been saying since last week Shaka Smart to Marquette. . Hearing the terms are Agreed upon. . We will see...#NCAA"
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 24, 2014, 01:35:54 PM
I'm waiting till it's on Wikipedia to believe it. 
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Dish on March 24, 2014, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: MUStudent on March 24, 2014, 01:34:39 PM
Somewhat of an interesting corroboration on Twitter from the head coach at Manual H.S. in Peoria:

@Dwilliams1515 "Been saying since last week Shaka Smart to Marquette. . Hearing the terms are Agreed upon. . We will see...#NCAA"

Solid find here, good work.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: wyoMUfan on March 24, 2014, 01:37:56 PM
Quote from: MUDish on March 24, 2014, 01:37:19 PM
Solid find here, good work.

A reliable source will help me calm down...
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 24, 2014, 01:38:11 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 24, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/652/cache/pope-selection-white-smoke_65226_600x450.jpg)

This deserves a bump.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: RyanConroy on March 24, 2014, 01:39:06 PM
If it ends up Shaka has been playing MU to gain leverage at VCU that's going to be upsetting. But you'd think Wild and Cords are wily veterans and could see if that were the case.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on March 24, 2014, 01:39:14 PM
If you search Shaka Smart on Twitter, it is blowing up.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Goose on March 24, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Since cat is out of the bag.....
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: NersEllenson on March 24, 2014, 01:40:37 PM
HOME RUN....please by the love of God..do not let this unravel!!
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Eldon on March 24, 2014, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 24, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Since cat is out of the bag.....

Goooooooooooooooooooooooose

Maverick is now your wingman!!
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Goose on March 24, 2014, 01:43:19 PM
Ners


I am with you completely. Want it signed, sealed and delivered.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 24, 2014, 01:58:31 PM
Some Wisconsin Badger folks implying Shaka for the last 36 hours was getting closer. 
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: MattyWarrior on March 24, 2014, 02:42:02 PM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 24, 2014, 01:38:11 PM
This deserves a bump.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: AZWarrior on March 24, 2014, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: PunchingPiper on March 24, 2014, 01:35:54 PM
I'm waiting till it's on Wikipedia to believe it. 

Give me a couple minutes.....
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: mu03eng on March 24, 2014, 02:52:00 PM
Quote from: Henry Sugar on March 24, 2014, 01:27:33 PM
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=42704.msg588340#msg588340

just sayin'

Thank you, I thought I was the only one that remembered that....and the fact that he said it on recorded audio the DAY BEFORE BUZZ LEFT  ;D
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: keefe on March 24, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
Quote from: mu03eng on March 24, 2014, 02:52:00 PM
Thank you, I thought I was the only one that remembered that....and the fact that he said it on recorded audio the DAY BEFORE BUZZ LEFT  ;D

20 March 2014 Quote from The Irritated White Boy :

"He's got a great job at MU.   Well paid.   Great practice facility.   Just basketball.    Good conference, great TV deal.    Wife and kids love it here.   Buzz isn't about the money, he is about respect.   As long as that is ironed out under the new administration, IWB sees Buzz at MU for a long time."

Irritated White Boy - The Ultimate Insider

I guess he wasn't "Ultimately Inside" for the 6 weeks prior to BW getting shown the door...
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: war1980rior on March 24, 2014, 02:58:22 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 24, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/652/cache/pope-selection-white-smoke_65226_600x450.jpg)

This might be the hardest I've laughed in a long time.  Excellent post!
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: mu03eng on March 24, 2014, 02:59:30 PM
Quote from: keefe on March 24, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
20 March 2014 Quote from The Irritated White Boy :

"He's got a great job at MU.   Well paid.   Great practice facility.   Just basketball.    Good conference, great TV deal.    Wife and kids love it here.   Buzz isn't about the money, he is about respect.   As long as that is ironed out under the new administration, IWB sees Buzz at MU for a long time."

Irritated White Boy - The Ultimate Insider

I guess he wasn't "Ultimately Inside" for the 6 weeks prior to BW getting shown the door...


+forever
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 24, 2014, 03:46:10 PM
Quote from: PunchingPiper on March 24, 2014, 01:16:00 PM
Is Jim Ganzer reliable?  No hate to him I only met the guy a couple times in class. 

Jim is a great guy.  When I was a student during the final 4 run.  He had a hotel room in Minneapolis that he did not want to use so he let me have it for free!!!   
His brother drove me to Minneapolis.  It was great.  Excellent family
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: tower912 on March 24, 2014, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: keefe on March 24, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
20 March 2014 Quote from The Irritated White Boy :

"He's got a great job at MU.   Well paid.   Great practice facility.   Just basketball.    Good conference, great TV deal.    Wife and kids love it here.   Buzz isn't about the money, he is about respect.   As long as that is ironed out under the new administration, IWB sees Buzz at MU for a long time."

Irritated White Boy - The Ultimate Insider

I guess he wasn't "Ultimately Inside" for the 6 weeks prior to BW getting shown the door...

He wasn't necessarily wrong.   Respect didn't get ironed out with the interim administration or the new one.   Buzz left.   
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 24, 2014, 03:51:53 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 24, 2014, 03:46:10 PM
Jim is a great guy.  When I was a student during the final 4 run.  He had a hotel room in Minneapolis that he did not want to use so he let me have it for free!!!   
His brother drove me to Minneapolis.  It was great.  Excellent family

Ah so there is another Jim Ganzer in Milwaukee! Crazy small world. 
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Shack on March 24, 2014, 04:00:50 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 24, 2014, 03:49:09 PM
He wasn't necessarily wrong.   Respect didn't get ironed out with the interim administration or the new one.   Buzz left.   

Agreed.  Sounds pretty spot on to me.  It wasn't about money in the end.  All about Buzz trying to cover up something two years ago and then feeling disrepected ever since with the new AD and President who tried to control how he ran the program.  Two years of putting your name out there for jobs and a 17-15 record ended up with Buzz getting pushed out the door.  Clear he wanted out and we didn't want him anymore.  The new conference had very little to do with it.  Sad but could have been avoided on all parts.  

IWB has been the best source of inside information regarding Marquette Hoops for a long time in my opinion.  The only time he missed the boat was when he was throwing out false buy-out numbers with Crean's contract.  This goes back to the old jsonline forum days.  Where is Abe Froman now??  

I feel good about Shaka signing with MU.  Why? Because I trust Ganzer, who has been right a lot of times and wouldn't post it unless he felt pretty confident about the info. Patience.  
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: keefe on March 24, 2014, 04:16:23 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 24, 2014, 03:49:09 PM
He wasn't necessarily wrong.   Respect didn't get ironed out with the interim administration or the new one.   Buzz left.   

He was wrong. This story began 6 weeks before BW bolted. IWB made this statement as BW was packing his bags for VPI. Doesn't sound all that plugged in to many people here.

Talk about slurping? Go the Brew City board where you have a dozen or so guys bad mouthing Scoop in every thread while sticking their noses up the moderator's ass.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 24, 2014, 04:19:35 PM
Quote from: keefe on March 24, 2014, 01:28:32 PM

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! What the hell are Goose and I??? Chopped Texan Liver??

What's good for the Goose is good for the Ganzer.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: tower912 on March 24, 2014, 04:22:30 PM
You mean guys who used to post here but got fed up and left?    Sorry, man.   IWB has been the ultimate MU insider for a while.  He has made basketball in the Milwaukee area his life.    Just because you disagree with him doesn't change that.  
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 24, 2014, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: PunchingPiper on March 24, 2014, 01:24:12 PM
Unless there was another Jim Ganzer at MU, a MU 2013 grad. 

Is he related to Mike Ganzer, 1979 grad?
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: keefe on March 24, 2014, 04:36:04 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 24, 2014, 04:22:30 PM
You mean guys who used to post here but got fed up and left?    Sorry, man.   IWB has been the ultimate MU insider for a while.  He has made basketball in the Milwaukee area his life.    Just because you disagree with him doesn't change that.  

IWB has some great info. No doubt. I'm just saying he missed the BW story. Nothing wrong with that as last time I checked this ain't about national security. It's a game.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: tower912 on March 24, 2014, 04:37:10 PM
Agreed.   
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: slingkong on March 26, 2014, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 24, 2014, 04:22:30 PM
You mean guys who used to post here but got fed up and left?    Sorry, man.   IWB has been the ultimate MU insider for a while.  He has made basketball in the Milwaukee area his life.    Just because you disagree with him doesn't change that.  

Probably better described as "crybabies that couldn't accept criticism of the coach."
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Goose on March 26, 2014, 10:31:10 AM
IWB knows his stuff. I do not know him personally, but cannot argue he knows MU ball.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: chapman on March 26, 2014, 10:35:54 AM
Quote from: slingkong on March 26, 2014, 10:29:07 AM
Probably better described as "crybabies that couldn't accept criticism of the coach."

(http://i.imgur.com/GE8ggui.gif)
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: MaymonsPops on March 26, 2014, 02:51:21 PM
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 24, 2014, 04:33:05 PM
Is he related to Mike Ganzer, 1979 grad?

Okay, lets clear this up at least. There was a Jim Gancer that was a 2013 Marquette grad, but the only thing he was ever "reliable" for during school was showing up to the party.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 26, 2014, 02:57:36 PM
Quote from: marqet4lyfe on March 26, 2014, 02:51:21 PM
Okay, lets clear this up at least. There was a Jim Gancer that was a 2013 Marquette grad, but the only thing he was ever "reliable" for during school was showing up to the party.
Sounds OK to me.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: keefe on March 26, 2014, 03:00:04 PM
Quote from: marqet4lyfe on March 26, 2014, 02:51:21 PM
Okay, lets clear this up at least. There was a Jim Gancer that was a 2013 Marquette grad, but the only thing he was ever "reliable" for during school was showing up to the party.

Sounds like a man you can count on for the important stuff.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: The Lens on March 26, 2014, 03:02:46 PM
My understanding of the Ganzers, the 1st Family of Marquette Message Boards (because Dodds doesn't have kids), is such:

Mike Ganzer is the famous Gato78.  He's an attorney in town.
Jim Ganzer played football in college but remained a huge MU Hoops fan, he's IWB.
Little Bro is their Little Brother.  Not sure what his username means.  
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: bilsu on March 26, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
IWB stands for "irritated white boy" and he is irritating me.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 26, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
Quote from: marqet4lyfe on March 26, 2014, 02:51:21 PM
Okay, lets clear this up at least. There was a Jim Gancer that was a 2013 Marquette grad, but the only thing he was ever "reliable" for during school was showing up to the party.

He's a good guy though.  I'd rely on his beer recommendations but thanks for clarifying that for me I just assumed it was 2013 Jim because Zack Klupchak (also 2013) contributes to the site. 
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: 79Warrior on March 26, 2014, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 26, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
IWB stands for "irritated white boy" and he is irritating me.

Truthfully, he has gone radio silent since making his call.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on March 27, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
Where is IWB? He drops the big bomb and then he goes into hiding? Is he coming up with a plan to charge his premium subscribers more money next month?
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: GOO on March 27, 2014, 11:46:33 AM
If this all works out, IWB will look really good.  I hope for him that this works out or he looks equally as bad.
Seems like a likable enough guy from his posts.  Obviously he loves MU Hoops, so he is one of us and I'm pulling for IWB to come out of this looking really good.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: wardle2wade on March 27, 2014, 11:47:18 AM
I'm assuming he got slapped pretty hard on the hand after Monday's situation.  Probably best to lay low to preserve his sources for the future.  
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Big Papi on March 27, 2014, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on March 27, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
Where is IWB? He drops the big bomb and then he goes into hiding? Is he coming up with a plan to charge his premium subscribers more money next month?

Posted late last night and said that he still stands by everything he said.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 27, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
Ugh, Im gonna go and trust IWB right now.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Windyplayer on March 27, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
Care to share?
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Sir Lawrence on March 27, 2014, 11:57:27 AM
Quote from: windyplayer on March 27, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
Care to share?

http://www.brewcityball.com/forums/showthread.php?6800-I-have-not-disappeared/page2
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: i71_dawg on March 27, 2014, 12:04:10 PM
I noticed earlier this afternoon that Jim Ganzer (IWB) is at 999 tweets...could he be waiting for a big announcement for tweet #1,000?


.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 27, 2014, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 27, 2014, 11:57:27 AM
http://www.brewcityball.com/forums/showthread.php?6800-I-have-not-disappeared/page2

Well, he's consistent.  I have absolutely no idea if he's right, but I'll give him credit for having the guts to stick with what he thinks he knows.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Pakuni on March 27, 2014, 12:09:54 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 27, 2014, 12:05:43 PM
Well, he's consistent.  I have absolutely no idea if he's right, but I'll give him credit for having the guts to stick with what he thinks he knows.

I hope he's right .... but at this point, there's only one direction for his credibility to go, so why not double down.
I don't subscribe to his site, so I don't care much either way, but if I did pay for his insight, I'd sure expect some explanation when all this is done.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Freeport Warrior on March 27, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
When all of the backstories are told, he will be fine. The biggest problem with all of this is the leaking from the Athletic Department to guys who's job it is to disseminate the info. Plenty of others here know the entire story and are smart enough to just let it play out. Ganzer had a couple of guys telling him "done deal" because they thought it was a done deal. Agreeing in principal and signing on the dotted line are not the same. SS is the exact opposite of a knee-jerk kind of guy -- there are so, so many other issues that needed to be ironed out. When you all learn what went down -- regardless of which way it goes -- you will understand. I'm still blown away that somebody from the Dept. leaked that flight info to a twitter guy - just plain stupid. Certainly a fireable offense considering the stakes. Chill. It will all be over soon. And it will all make sense.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: MULS1999 on March 27, 2014, 12:38:12 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on March 27, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
When all of the backstories are told, he will be fine. The biggest problem with all of this is the leaking from the Athletic Department to guys who's job it is to disseminate the info. Plenty of others here know the entire story and are smart enough to just let it play out. Ganzer had a couple of guys telling him "done deal" because they thought it was a done deal. Agreeing in principal and signing on the dotted line are not the same. SS is the exact opposite of a knee-jerk kind of guy -- there are so, so many other issues that needed to be ironed out. When you all learn what went down -- regardless of which way it goes -- you will understand. I'm still blown away that somebody from the Dept. leaked that flight info to a twitter guy - just plain stupid. Certainly a fireable offense considering the stakes. Chill. It will all be over soon. And it will all make sense.

Yup.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 27, 2014, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on March 27, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
When all of the backstories are told, he will be fine. The biggest problem with all of this is the leaking from the Athletic Department to guys who's job it is to disseminate the info. Plenty of others here know the entire story and are smart enough to just let it play out. Ganzer had a couple of guys telling him "done deal" because they thought it was a done deal. Agreeing in principal and signing on the dotted line are not the same. SS is the exact opposite of a knee-jerk kind of guy -- there are so, so many other issues that needed to be ironed out. When you all learn what went down -- regardless of which way it goes -- you will understand. I'm still blown away that somebody from the Dept. leaked that flight info to a twitter guy - just plain stupid. Certainly a fireable offense considering the stakes. Chill. It will all be over soon. And it will all make sense.

Good to know. Unfortunately, I don't wanna respect the process.. .i just want some info :)
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Eldon on March 27, 2014, 12:39:29 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on March 27, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
When all of the backstories are told, he will be fine. The biggest problem with all of this is the leaking from the Athletic Department to guys who's job it is to disseminate the info. Plenty of others here know the entire story and are smart enough to just let it play out. Ganzer had a couple of guys telling him "done deal" because they thought it was a done deal. Agreeing in principal and signing on the dotted line are not the same. SS is the exact opposite of a knee-jerk kind of guy -- there are so, so many other issues that needed to be ironed out. When you all learn what went down -- regardless of which way it goes -- you will understand. I'm still blown away that somebody from the Dept. leaked that flight info to a twitter guy - just plain stupid. Certainly a fireable offense considering the stakes. Chill. It will all be over soon. And it will all make sense.

Good post, but IMO you don't say "done deal" until you have confirmation that all of the i's (and lower-case j's) and t's have been crossed.  Even if someone said to him "IWB, lock it up, it's a done deal" he should have replied "so you saw him sign the contract?"
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Pakuni on March 27, 2014, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on March 27, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
When all of the backstories are told, he will be fine. The biggest problem with all of this is the leaking from the Athletic Department to guys who's job it is to disseminate the info. Plenty of others here know the entire story and are smart enough to just let it play out. Ganzer had a couple of guys telling him "done deal" because they thought it was a done deal. Agreeing in principal and signing on the dotted line are not the same. SS is the exact opposite of a knee-jerk kind of guy -- there are so, so many other issues that needed to be ironed out. When you all learn what went down -- regardless of which way it goes -- you will understand. I'm still blown away that somebody from the Dept. leaked that flight info to a twitter guy - just plain stupid. Certainly a fireable offense considering the stakes. Chill. It will all be over soon. And it will all make sense.

I understand IWB is not a journalist, and thus doesn't play by the some rules as a guy like Goodman, but for future reference, he's probably better off not stating "done deal" when it's not.
Fact is, IWB was trying to be first and got burned. It happens.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: i71_dawg on March 27, 2014, 12:43:35 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 27, 2014, 12:39:29 PM
Good post, but IMO you don't say "done deal" until you have confirmation that all of the i's (and lower-case j's) and t's have been crossed.  Even if someone said to him "IWB, lock it up, it's a done deal" he should have replied "so you saw him sign the contract?"

+1  

"Done Deal" put all his credibility on the line (credibility with MU fans that he's built up over the years and which enabled him to start his own site)...he should have sought more assurances or proof before going forward with it if there was ANY chance it wasn't totally done (or was just "very likely" but not actually a "done deal").

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Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Windyplayer on March 27, 2014, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2014, 12:09:54 PM
I hope he's right .... but at this point, there's only one direction for his credibility to go, so why not double down.
I don't subscribe to his site, so I don't care much either way, but if I did pay for his insight, I'd sure expect some explanation when all this is done.
Exactly. The first phrase to come to mind when I saw that post from IWB was "double down."
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on March 27, 2014, 12:48:38 PM
F the process!
U can quote me on that.

Btw I always hated those glasses that mike dean wore.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: brandx on March 27, 2014, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2014, 12:42:05 PM
I understand IWB is not a journalist, and thus doesn't play by the some rules as a guy like Goodman, but for future reference, he's probably better off not stating "done deal" when it's not.
Fact is, IWB was trying to be first and got burned. It happens.

The whole problem in a nutshell!!
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Eldon on March 27, 2014, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: brandx on March 27, 2014, 12:48:45 PM
The whole problem in a nutshell!!

Those who live by the source, die by the source.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Sir Lawrence on March 27, 2014, 12:52:24 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on March 27, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
The biggest problem with all of this is the leaking from the Athletic Department to guys who's job it is to disseminate the info. Plenty of others here know the entire story and are smart enough to just let it play out. Ganzer had a couple of guys telling him "done deal" because they thought it was a done deal.

I agree with you, with one exception.  IWB claims that none of his sources were within the Marquette Athletic Department. 
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Goose on March 27, 2014, 12:55:26 PM
Sir Lawrence

You are wise man!!
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Fullodds on March 27, 2014, 12:59:25 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2014, 12:42:05 PM
I understand IWB is not a journalist, and thus doesn't play by the some rules as a guy like Goodman, but for future reference, he's probably better off not stating "done deal" when it's not.
Fact is, IWB was trying to be first and got burned. It happens.

Not sure if he is a journalist or not but he describes himself as having reported and been credentialed for many events, FWIW.  This is from the Brew City site:


Jim Ganzer, "IWB" – Jim Ganzer, or "IWB", has been involved in the Milwaukee sports media for 10 years. Despite having played college football at Loras College, Jim's expertise is in college basketball recruiting where he has reported for organizations such as Rivals and Scout.com. While basketball recruiting may be his specialty, Jim has also done work analyzing NFL rookies for The Sporting News & Fox Sports. Jim has covered everything from high school & college sports to professional hockey, soccer, baseball, football and auto racing. Over the years Jim has been credentialed by the NCAA, Big East, Big 10, Green Bay Packers, Milwaukee Brewers, Milwaukee Bucks, IndyCar and NASCAR. Jim is also the founder and Executive Director for the Scion Dental Milwaukee Summer Pro-Am, a summer basketball league for college and pro basketball players.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Windyplayer on March 27, 2014, 01:01:12 PM
Quote from: Fullodds on March 27, 2014, 12:59:25 PM
Not sure if he is a journalist or not but he describes himself as having reported and been credentialed for many events, FWIW.  This is from the Brew City site:


Jim Ganzer, "IWB" – Jim Ganzer, or "IWB", has been involved in the Milwaukee sports media for 10 years. Despite having played college football at Loras College, Jim's expertise is in college basketball recruiting where he has reported for organizations such as Rivals and Scout.com. While basketball recruiting may be his specialty, Jim has also done work analyzing NFL rookies for The Sporting News & Fox Sports. Jim has covered everything from high school & college sports to professional hockey, soccer, baseball, football and auto racing. Over the years Jim has been credentialed by the NCAA, Big East, Big 10, Green Bay Packers, Milwaukee Brewers, Milwaukee Bucks, IndyCar and NASCAR. Jim is also the founder and Executive Director for the Scion Dental Milwaukee Summer Pro-Am, a summer basketball league for college and pro basketball players.
No question that IWB is legit, it was just a little bit of semantics that set off a firestorm. This too shall pass.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Fullodds on March 27, 2014, 01:08:25 PM
I think Ganzer is a good guy and would not have posted something so concrete unless he thought he had it nailed down tight.  I would not describe him as someone who would take a chance at being wrong, just to be first.  In the past he has been right on the money (recruiting info) and he would take a very cautious position with vague references "something good will happen soon" or "I'll be out of town..." (signifying something will happen).  When he came out and said "done deal" I had no reason to doubt he thought he had solid information.  Everything that followed relied, in part, to Ganzer's proclamation although Harv/Roy has denied Ganzer as his sole source.   

Again, this information is only coming from recruiting specialists.  If it was true, why haven't other 'normal' journalists picked up the story on their own?  For me, that is the head scratcher.  With all the leaks out there, only Ganzer and Harv/Roy are getting the info? 

Interesting times indeed...
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Pakuni on March 27, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Fullodds on March 27, 2014, 01:08:25 PM
I think Ganzer is a good guy and would not have posted something so concrete unless he thought he had it nailed down tight.  I would not describe him as someone who would take a chance at being wrong, just to be first.  In the past he has been right on the money (recruiting info) and he would take a very cautious position with vague references "something good will happen soon" or "I'll be out of town..." (signifying something will happen).  When he came out and said "done deal" I had no reason to doubt he thought he had solid information.  Everything that followed relied, in part, to Ganzer's proclamation although Harv/Roy has denied Ganzer as his sole source.   

Again, this information is only coming from recruiting specialists.  If it was true, why haven't other 'normal' journalists picked up the story on their own?  For me, that is the head scratcher.  With all the leaks out there, only Ganzer and Harv/Roy are getting the info? 

Interesting times indeed...

I don't doubt IWB is a good guy, and I don't doubt he had a source he trusted telling him it was a done deal (though he cited himself as the source). And for all we know his source was right, or at least believed he was right. But when you make proclamations based on anonymous sources that turn out (possibly) wrong, the loss of credibility falls on you.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 26, 2021, 10:28:13 AM
Had to bump
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 26, 2021, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 26, 2021, 10:28:13 AM
Had to bump

Iamthesource
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 26, 2021, 10:29:01 AM
Ganzer played the long game.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 26, 2021, 10:31:31 AM
Quote from: ChitownMoser on March 26, 2021, 10:29:01 AM
Ganzer played the long game.

We're all playing checkers he's out there playing 4D chess
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 26, 2021, 10:34:30 AM
He wasn't wrong, He was just early
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 26, 2021, 10:37:49 AM
A clear case of premature hashtagulation.
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: keefe on March 26, 2021, 11:58:43 AM
prognostication
more contacts than bausch and lombe
seven year delay
Title: Re: IWB on twitter
Post by: Warrior Code on March 26, 2021, 12:16:26 PM
Do mine eyes deceive me? Is that a rare Keefe sighting?
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