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Title: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: wardle2wade on March 23, 2014, 02:43:32 PM
Posted 30 minutes ago on twitter...

@prepbullseye: Am hearing Doc Rivers could very well be involved in the Marquette coaching search & things are moving fast. Hope to have updates later.

Followed up with the below tweet 3min ago...

@prepbullseye: Alright--now that it's out there I can say that at this time there is plenty of reason to believe that Shaka Smart is Marquette's #1 choice.


This is Roy Schmidt's account.  I believe he posts on scoop every so often.  

Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Windyplayer on March 23, 2014, 02:45:38 PM
If true, holy crap, amazing.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: NersEllenson on March 23, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
Would be awesome...and believe it could happen.  No reason MU wouldn't have extended the offer to Howland if it felt they could land someone of equal or better stature...which to me says the Shaka ball definitely was/is still in the air..
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Blackhat on March 23, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
Giddyyy Up!!

(http://media3.giphy.com/media/CER13g4Z0xNwA/original.gif)

I don't care if it's wishful thinking, this crap can be fun.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Oldgym on March 23, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
Would be fantastic and no doubt MU is interested, but nothing about either tweet suggests the interest is mutual.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: T.V. Diener 34 on March 23, 2014, 02:49:47 PM
Quote from: Oldgym on March 23, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
Would be fantastic and no doubt MU is interested, but nothing about either tweet suggests the interest is mutual.

Can't control things from the other side but as long as MU is looking into it, I'm pumped.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: wardle2wade on March 23, 2014, 02:51:22 PM
Quote from: Oldgym on March 23, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
Would be fantastic and no doubt MU is interested, but nothing about either tweet suggests the interest is mutual.

Mostly agree, but in a reply to an MU grad asking, "is there ANY chance that he would take that job?", Roy replied...

@prepbullseye: @jwelge96 Absolutely but that doesn't mean that it is a done deal & I don't believe it is.

Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: jsglow on March 23, 2014, 02:52:11 PM
Should we be surprised that Fr. Wild might have asked Glen to call Shaka and take his temperature?  I have more faith in Bob than to have missed that step.

Let this play out.  I think we'll have a great coach in 2-3 days.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: mechaghidorah on March 23, 2014, 02:53:48 PM
Yeah, he just got out coached the other night. All glamour and limited coaching ability.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 02:57:21 PM
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 23, 2014, 02:53:48 PM
Yeah, he just got out coached the other night. All glamour and limited coaching ability.

Maaaaan, I gotta say that this is my hunch, too.  He is definitely a solid coach, but is he that great?  Is he NC great?  Color me hesitant.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 23, 2014, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 02:57:21 PM
Maaaaan, I gotta say that this is my hunch, too.  He is definitely a solid coach, but is he that great?  Is he NC great?  Color me hesitant.

Trust me, you'll get over it.

He might bring some recruits with him.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: NersEllenson on March 23, 2014, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 02:57:21 PM
Maaaaan, I gotta say that this is my hunch, too.  He is definitely a solid coach, but is he that great?  Is he NC great?  Color me hesitant.

Usually agree with your takes Eldon...but Smart can flat out coach...SF Austin is no slouch of a team..29 game winning streak coming into that game...and VCU players missed a number of FTs down the stretch..and the dumb foul the player made on 3 point shooter...coaches can only do so much.  His track record at a school like VCU speaks for itself..
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: wardle2wade on March 23, 2014, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 23, 2014, 02:53:48 PM
Yeah, he just got out coached the other night. All glamour and limited coaching ability.

Pretty silly statement in a one and done tourney.  I'd take Shaka in a heartbeat.  Very young coach, good recruiter, passionate, and a homerun hire.  Also would qualm any apprehensions as MU being a top-level program again.  Shaka has said no to numerous big time programs, including Ucla.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: MisterJaylenBrownMU on March 23, 2014, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 02:57:21 PM
Maaaaan, I gotta say that this is my hunch, too.  He is definitely a solid coach, but is he that great?  Is he NC great?  Color me hesitant.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 23, 2014, 02:53:48 PM
Yeah, he just got out coached the other night. All glamour and limited coaching ability.

If your only criteria for a hire is that the coach won their final game before the job offer, your list would be mighty short.

This board is so strange sometimes.  One thread has people claiming that we can't attract a big name without an AD and president, then another thread has people claiming we're too good for the hottest young coaching candidate in the game.  I am so unbelievably glad that this board isn't responsible for hiring the next coach.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 23, 2014, 03:05:33 PM
There is zero doubt Smart would appeal to recruits
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on March 23, 2014, 03:09:35 PM
Mark miller tweet
https://twitter.com/wisbbyearbook/status/447818165049782272
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: mr.MUskie on March 23, 2014, 03:10:51 PM
If it's Smart you have to put a HUGE buyout in his contract.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: tweakers_suck on March 23, 2014, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on March 23, 2014, 03:10:51 PM
If it's Smart you have to put a HUGE buyout in his contract.

It's not my money.  ;D
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Blackhat on March 23, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on March 23, 2014, 03:10:51 PM
If it's Smart you have to put a HUGE buyout in his contract.

I think you just worry about getting him to sign on the line that is dotted....no high pressure bs.   Shaka to MU would be huge publicity for the program.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Wisco on March 23, 2014, 03:15:26 PM
Just spoke with a friend of mine, someone close to the VCU program...he spoke with someone high up in San Diego after the game this weekend and is very, very confident that Smart is staying put.

I'm all in for Howland.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: MUCam on March 23, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 23, 2014, 03:05:33 PM
There is zero doubt Smart would appeal to recruits

This is true. It makes the decision between Howland and Smart (assuming both interested), very difficult.

Howland has the pedigree and a proven track record of winning in big conferences. He is a big name and will definitely add legitimacy to Marquette's program by agreeing to coach here. He has great passion that I am sure has been re-energized by a year away. However, he is a bit less current to recruits, despite having on left UCLA a short while ago.

On the other hand, Shaka is a big, fresh and current name for recruits. Bringing him to Marquette when he has turned down others also adds legitimacy to the program. He plays and exciting brand of basketball. The downside is, we have all seen hot young coaches fizzle out later (Keno Davis, anyone?). He doesn't have the proven track record at a big time school.

Both have appeal. It will be interesting to see what direction MU goes, assuming both are available and interested.

Marshall seems like a good third option, although there is something about him that just makes me put him a step below Howland and Smart. Maybe not as dynamic as Smart and not as much pedigree as Howland. Who knows? I will say, his record this year and the great records at Winthrop do speak volumes about his abilities as the head man.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 03:18:03 PM
Quote from: MisterDMU on March 23, 2014, 03:03:52 PM
If your only criteria for a hire is that the coach won their final game before the job offer, your list would be mighty short.

This board is so strange sometimes.  One thread has people claiming that we can't attract a big name without an AD and president, then another thread has people claiming we're too good for the hottest young coaching candidate in the game.  I am so unbelievably glad that this board isn't responsible for hiring the next coach.

No, man.  Even if they win yesterday, it doesn't change my opinion.  I like Shaka, I truly do.  But, IMO he has yet to show that he is the wunderkind that everyone makes him out to be.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Tums Festival on March 23, 2014, 03:22:55 PM
Quote from: jsglow on March 23, 2014, 02:52:11 PM
Should we be surprised that Fr. Wild might have asked Glen to call Shaka and take his temperature?  I have more faith in Bob than to have missed that step.

Let this play out.  I think we'll have a great coach in 2-3 days.

Isn't it Glenn?  ;D
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Crispy on March 23, 2014, 03:23:35 PM
Question.  Does anyone think that Shaka is just biding his time until Bo Ryan retires?  Could be why he would be willing to stay put at VCU?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 23, 2014, 03:25:28 PM
Quote from: jsglow on March 23, 2014, 02:52:11 PM
Fr. Wild might have asked Glen to call Shaka and take his temperature?
Let's hope he phrased it differently.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Crispy on March 23, 2014, 03:25:50 PM
And no, I'm not a troll even though this is my first post; I have been reading Scoop for years, am a longtime fan and season ticket holder and bleed Blue and Gold through and through!
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: mechaghidorah on March 23, 2014, 03:26:18 PM
Howland has just won too much at a major conference level to not be the top choice.  But he is not glamorous, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: forgetful on March 23, 2014, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Crispy on March 23, 2014, 03:23:35 PM
Question.  Does anyone think that Shaka is just biding his time until Bo Ryan retires?  Could be why he would be willing to stay put at VCU?

No, from all accounts I had heard, he is not a big fan of Madison even though he grew up there.  I think if he came back to the state MU is much more up his alley.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 03:26:48 PM
Quote from: Wisco on March 23, 2014, 03:15:26 PM
Just spoke with a friend of mine, someone close to the VCU program...he spoke with someone high up in San Diego after the game this weekend and is very, very confident that Smart is staying put.

I'm all in for Howland.

Telling.  San Diego is what, two hours from the Staples Center?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Wisco on March 23, 2014, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 03:18:03 PM
No, man.  Even if they win yesterday, it doesn't change my opinion.  I like Shaka, I truly do.  But, IMO he has yet to show that he is the wunderkind that everyone makes him out to be.
If Shaka's detractors truly, truly understood the position our program was in just five short years ago and then viewed the state of it now in comparison, there would be no question as to how talented he is. Our defensive philosophy has been called a gimmick etc. but those are hollow words. Fans and donators want results at the end of the day. He has delivered. How do you take an under-funded mid-major program that no one cares about at a school with little in the way of facilities and alumni support to the next level? You inject an element of chaos. The branding and cheesy crap that comes along with it are just necessary evils.

Sorry, not trying to nitpick. I suppose it depends on your definition of wunderkind. I think there are certainly some concerns that are valid, such as that he is completely unproven at a higher level etc.

Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 03:26:48 PM
Telling.  San Diego is what, two hours from the Staples Center?
VCU's first round game was in San Diego, so that is largely what I was referring to.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: SWARM! on March 23, 2014, 03:29:01 PM
I think Shaka would be perfect for a city team in a good conference, and MU fits that bill.  I don't necessarily think he's as sexy as everyone thinks from a national standpoint but if he's interested you simply cannot turn him down.  He'd be a fantastic recruiter here and he can flat out coach.

I still have a soft spot for Howland as I think he's as professional as they come and my hunch is he'd be here for the long haul.  If he's truly as interested as the pundits are making it sound, I don't think you can go wrong with him.  As I said above, though, you simply cannot turn down Smart if he wants the job.

Doc Rivers is a fascinating wild card candidate - it just doesn't sound realistic to me.  I don't buy that he's realistically interested in coaching at the college level.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
Quote from: Wisco on March 23, 2014, 03:15:26 PM
Just spoke with a friend of mine, someone close to the VCU program...he spoke with someone high up in San Diego after the game this weekend and is very, very confident that Smart is staying put.

I'm all in for Howland.

I think you're probably right.
Then again, 60 hours ago people here were very, very confident Buzz wasn't going to VaTech.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 03:31:14 PM
Quote from: RichardShaw on March 23, 2014, 03:29:01 PM
I think Shaka would be perfect for a city team in a good conference, and MU fits that bill.  I don't necessarily think he's as sexy as everyone thinks from a national standpoint but if he's interested you simply cannot turn him down.  He'd be a fantastic recruiter here and he can flat out coach.

I still have a soft spot for Howland as I think he's as professional as they come and my hunch is he'd be here for the long haul.  If he's truly as interested as the pundits are making it sound, I don't think you can go wrong with him.  As I said above, though, you simply cannot turn down Smart if he wants the job.

Doc Rivers is a fascinating wild card candidate - it just doesn't sound realistic to me.  I don't buy that he's realistically interested in coaching at the college level.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I took "Doc involved" to mean that Doc has called Smart, or as I alluded to above, Doc is having lunch with him as we speak.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: SWARM! on March 23, 2014, 03:34:49 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 03:31:14 PM
Maybe I'm wrong here, but I took "Doc involved" to mean that Doc has called Smart, or as I alluded to above, Doc is having lunch with him as we speak.

I get that, and maybe I'm reading it wrong.  But I always think MU is going to look first to Doc to see if there is any way he is interested in being a head coach here.  I have absolutely no knowledge regarding whether that's a realistic possibility but I have to think we are constantly gauging his interest in situations like this.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: brandx on March 23, 2014, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 23, 2014, 02:53:48 PM
Yeah, he just got out coached the other night. All glamour and limited coaching ability.

No, a freshman made a huge mistake, in the final seconds. He has done what he has done sans 4 & 5 star guys.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2014, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 23, 2014, 03:05:33 PM
There is zero doubt Smart would appeal to recruits

Yes he would
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: cheebs09 on March 23, 2014, 03:42:13 PM
Bullseye responded to someone that the Doc part was as a part of the hiring process, not as a candidate for the position.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: wardle2wade on March 23, 2014, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 03:31:14 PM
Maybe I'm wrong here, but I took "Doc involved" to mean that Doc has called Smart, or as I alluded to above, Doc is having lunch with him as we speak.

Vcu played in San Diego on friday night, right?  A Doc-Shaka lunch in SoCal i suppose is possible.  But then again, don't teams usually have to fly back immediately after losing ala Steve Fisher's comments?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2014, 03:43:05 PM
Quote from: RichardShaw on March 23, 2014, 03:29:01 PM
I think Shaka would be perfect for a city team in a good conference, and MU fits that bill.  I don't necessarily think he's as sexy as everyone thinks from a national standpoint but if he's interested you simply cannot turn him down.  He'd be a fantastic recruiter here and he can flat out coach.

I still have a soft spot for Howland as I think he's as professional as they come and my hunch is he'd be here for the long haul.  If he's truly as interested as the pundits are making it sound, I don't think you can go wrong with him.  As I said above, though, you simply cannot turn down Smart if he wants the job.

Doc Rivers is a fascinating wild card candidate - it just doesn't sound realistic to me.  I don't buy that he's realistically interested in coaching at the college level.

Doc is in legitimate competition for a NBA title this year and the next few years, he's going to stay in the pros. 

Agree with pretty much everything else you are saying above.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2014, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 23, 2014, 02:59:58 PM
Trust me, you'll get over it.

He might bring some recruits with him.


Murray, the key to this chit is recruitin'. You and I could coach these cats if we had a roster of Burger Boys, aina? Smart will recruit, trust me on this one.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: muhoops1 on March 23, 2014, 03:54:50 PM
Duane Wilson retweeted a comment hoping Shaka comes to MU.  I believe he'd have cache with our current signees or other interested recruits....
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 23, 2014, 04:04:15 PM
Howland is in LA like Doc.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 23, 2014, 04:06:10 PM
Well when does MU break good news? We all know bad news is friday afternoon.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: GB Warrior on March 23, 2014, 04:08:59 PM
Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on March 23, 2014, 04:06:10 PM
Well when does MU break good news? We all know bad news is friday afternoon.

Great question...been awhile since we've had any.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Markusquette on March 23, 2014, 04:10:10 PM
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on March 23, 2014, 04:08:59 PM
Great question...been awhile since we've had any.

Depending which way you look at it, we had pretty good news on Friday.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2014, 03:45:02 PM

Murray, the key to this chit is recruitin'. You and I could coach these cats if we had a roster of Burger Boys, aina? Smart will recruit, trust me on this one.

Did you watch the Kansas game?
Are you watching the Kentucky game?
Recruiting is huge, but you can't just throw a bunch of McDonald's AAs on the court and come back with a national title.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 23, 2014, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on March 23, 2014, 04:10:10 PM
Depending which way you look at it, we had pretty good news on Friday.

If we get Howland, Smart, or Marshall, Friday's news was great.  Some of the other guys mentioned, not so much.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Markusquette on March 23, 2014, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 23, 2014, 04:15:24 PM
If we get Howland, Smart, or Marshall, Friday's news was great.  Some of the other guys mentioned, not so much.

I wouldn't limit it to those three.  From what we're hearing things seem to be looking up.  I'll remain optimistic.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: chapman on March 23, 2014, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 23, 2014, 03:26:27 PM
No, from all accounts I had heard, he is not a big fan of Madison even though he grew up there.  I think if he came back to the state MU is much more up his alley.

Yep.  Waiting for Roy, K, etc. to retire, sure.  He did not enjoy growing up near Madison.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: willie warrior on March 23, 2014, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on March 23, 2014, 04:10:10 PM
Depending which way you look at it, we had pretty good news on Friday.
How dare you slam the Buzzster like that.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 23, 2014, 04:42:59 PM
http://instagram.com/p/b_-ZGPwzmY/

Looks like Doc and Shaka have known each other for a while. Relationships always make a difference!
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: bilsu on March 23, 2014, 05:15:51 PM
Unless you graduated from a school, you are foolish to wait for a big time job to open up. There is no guarantee that they would hire you. I see no indication that Bo Ryan is going to retire anytime soon. Duke most likely is going with a Duke connection. Besides that K will not retire until Boheim does.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm not going to give you my credentials, but I am a person with "intimate knowledge" of the VCU athletic department.  I can tell you that Doc and Shaka DID NOT have a meeting Shaka boarded a Private Plane (with the rest of the team) and made their way home.  However, Larry Williams has reached out to Shaka Smart.  Rumbles over here in the AD office are loud.  There will be more information tomorrow. VCU is working on a rebuttal offer, and could go as high as 2 million and a guarantee on the 25 million dollar practice facility to commence construction with no delays.

In all honesty, Shaka has no attachment to Wisconsin from conversations that I've had with him.  This has merely been speculation of all Big Ten teams that have had an interest in hiring Shaka Smart.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: mr.MUskie on March 23, 2014, 05:19:51 PM
Quote from: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm not going to give you my credentials, but I am a person with "intimate knowledge" of the VCU athletic department.  I can tell you that Doc and Shaka DID NOT have a meeting Shaka boarded a Private Plane (with the rest of the team) and made their way home.  However, Larry Williams has reached out to Shaka Smart.  Rumbles over here in the AD office are loud.  There will be more information tomorrow. VCU is working on a rebuttal offer, and could go as high as 2 million and a guarantee on the 25 million dollar practice facility to commence construction with no delays.

In all honesty, Shaka has no attachment to Wisconsin from conversations that I've had with him.  This has merely been speculation of all Big Ten teams that have had an interest in hiring Shaka Smart.


Larry Williams?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2014, 05:20:09 PM
VCU


Very insightful. Happy to hear Larry did not hold a grudge and is helping out:)
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: MUCam on March 23, 2014, 05:21:01 PM
Quote from: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm not going to give you my credentials, but I am a person with "intimate knowledge" of the VCU athletic department.  I can tell you that Doc and Shaka DID NOT have a meeting Shaka boarded a Private Plane (with the rest of the team) and made their way home.  However, Larry Williams has reached out to Shaka Smart.  Rumbles over here in the AD office are loud.  There will be more information tomorrow. VCU is working on a rebuttal offer, and could go as high as 2 million and a guarantee on the 25 million dollar practice facility to commence construction with no delays.

In all honesty, Shaka has no attachment to Wisconsin from conversations that I've had with him.  This has merely been speculation of all Big Ten teams that have had an interest in hiring Shaka Smart.


Interesting insight. Did you speak with Larry, personally? If so, how's he doing since leaving Marquette? Tell him I miss his hat.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 23, 2014, 05:21:20 PM
nm
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Wisco on March 23, 2014, 05:23:06 PM
Quote from: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm not going to give you my credentials, but I am a person with "intimate knowledge" of the VCU athletic department.  I can tell you that Doc and Shaka DID NOT have a meeting Shaka boarded a Private Plane (with the rest of the team) and made their way home.  However, Larry Williams has reached out to Shaka Smart.  Rumbles over here in the AD office are loud.  There will be more information tomorrow. VCU is working on a rebuttal offer, and could go as high as 2 million and a guarantee on the 25 million dollar practice facility to commence construction with no delays.

In all honesty, Shaka has no attachment to Wisconsin from conversations that I've had with him.  This has merely been speculation of all Big Ten teams that have had an interest in hiring Shaka Smart.
Just so everyone is aware...

VCUInsider has posted on numerous message boards of teams that Shaka has had an "interest" in over the years. He tends to get everyone going only to be disappointed later (in fact, he is responsible for the longest thread in the history of the Minnesota board).

This is nothing but a joke. I think that is clear enough from the LW reference. As a VCU and Marquette fan, I think everyone on here deserves to know this before getting their hopes up.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:23:21 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on March 23, 2014, 05:19:51 PM
Larry Williams?

I am embarrassed, I looked up your AD. I was told "Marquette's athletic director" and I didn't know who your AD was.  Sorry for the misinformation.  I'll stay away.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 23, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
Quote from: MUCam on March 23, 2014, 05:21:01 PM
Interesting insight. Did you speak with Larry, personally? If so, how's he doing since leaving Marquette? Tell him I miss his hat.

Lol, that Fucking hat.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: tweakers_suck on March 23, 2014, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: Warriors+Rams on March 23, 2014, 05:23:06 PM
Just so everyone is aware...

VCUInsider has posted on numerous message boards of teams that Shaka has had an "interest" in over the years. He tends to get everyone going only to be disappointed later (in fact, he is responsible for the longest thread in the history of the Minnesota board).

This is nothing but a joke. I think that is clear enough from the LW reference. As a VCU and Marquette fan, I think everyone on here deserves to know this before getting their hopes up.

Thank you. There are two ways to read Goose's last post. I'm guessing the tongue-in-cheek interpretation is correct?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 05:26:27 PM
Did you guys not watch the SFA-VCU game?  After Graham hit a 3, Shaka was joyfully dancing.

It only makes sense that Larry would reach out to him.

The key question is whether Larry will reprimand him in the JS or the Richmond Dispatch.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Wisco on March 23, 2014, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: tweakers_suck on March 23, 2014, 05:25:17 PM
Thank you. There are two ways to read Goose's last post. I'm guessing the tongue-in-cheek interpretation is correct?

Correct...I've known Goose to be a great source of info over the years but it's clear that he and others saw right through the garbage.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: nyg on March 23, 2014, 05:28:04 PM
Quote from: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm not going to give you my credentials, but I am a person with "intimate knowledge" of the VCU athletic department.  I can tell you that Doc and Shaka DID NOT have a meeting Shaka boarded a Private Plane (with the rest of the team) and made their way home.  However, Larry Williams has reached out to Shaka Smart.  Rumbles over here in the AD office are loud.  There will be more information tomorrow. VCU is working on a rebuttal offer, and could go as high as 2 million and a guarantee on the 25 million dollar practice facility to commence construction with no delays.

In all honesty, Shaka has no attachment to Wisconsin from conversations that I've had with him.  This has merely been speculation of all Big Ten teams that have had an interest in hiring Shaka Smart.


MU probably goes over the 2M mark for Smart and MU already has a state of the art practice facility.  Doesn't have to wait for construction and MU plays in an NBA arena.  
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Wisco on March 23, 2014, 05:28:12 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 05:26:27 PM
Did you guys not watch the SFA-VCU game?  After Graham hit a 3, Shaka was joyfully dancing.

It only makes sense that Larry would reach out to him.

The key question is whether Larry will reprimand him in the JS or the Richmond Dispatch.

Probably the Times-Dispatch...it is a rag of a paper similar to the JS.

The true question is whether or not he will sport a sweaty ball cap.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2014, 05:29:39 PM
So VCU really was not an insider?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: bobnoxious on March 23, 2014, 05:30:09 PM
Quote from: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm not going to give you my credentials, but I am a person with "intimate knowledge" of the VCU athletic department.  I can tell you that Doc and Shaka DID NOT have a meeting Shaka boarded a Private Plane (with the rest of the team) and made their way home.  However, Larry Williams has reached out to Shaka Smart.  Rumbles over here in the AD office are loud.  There will be more information tomorrow. VCU is working on a rebuttal offer, and could go as high as 2 million and a guarantee on the 25 million dollar practice facility to commence construction with no delays.

In all honesty, Shaka has no attachment to Wisconsin from conversations that I've had with him.  This has merely been speculation of all Big Ten teams that have had an interest in hiring Shaka Smart.


Up to $2 million dollars? We should just not even try then
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Litehouse on March 23, 2014, 05:31:25 PM
VCU, thanks for the info. We've gone through this "we're gonna steal your coach" and "our program is better than your program" crap the last few years, and it sucks.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Wisco on March 23, 2014, 05:31:37 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2014, 05:29:39 PM
So VCU really was not an insider?
Sadly, no. Just a Becky fan looking to stir the pot.

Scratch that, I heard him mention that Larry Mullins reached out to Shaka so there must be some truth in all of this.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: bobnoxious on March 23, 2014, 05:30:09 PM
Up to $2 million dollars? We should just not even try then

The practice facility has been in the works and is set to start construction this spring.  The 2 million is merely a raise from the 1.5 28 year contract he currently has.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Mutaman on March 23, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
For what its worth, Shaka was also outcoached by a baldheaded old man in Brooklyn last Sunday.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 23, 2014, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2014, 05:29:39 PM
So VCU really was not an insider?

It's the  Internet. Everybody is an insider.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:33:15 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on March 23, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
For what its worth, Shaka was also outcoached by a baldheaded old man in Brooklyn last Sunday.

He does look like Uncle Fester.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Wisco on March 23, 2014, 05:34:24 PM
Quote from: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:31:54 PM
The practice facility has been in the works and is set to start construction this spring.  The 2 million is merely a raise from the 1.5 28 year contract he currently has.
Please, I beg of you. I've enjoyed watching you go to work on other forums in the past but as a Marquette fan who knows of your schtick I'd like to request that you stop before this forum explodes.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: The Process on March 23, 2014, 05:41:26 PM
Quote from: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm not going to give you my credentials, but I am a person with "intimate knowledge" of the VCU athletic department.

Would this make you... a VCU slurper?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: NickelDimer on March 23, 2014, 05:43:02 PM
This thread just got so weird.  And that's awesome
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 23, 2014, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 23, 2014, 04:42:59 PM
http://instagram.com/p/b_-ZGPwzmY/

Looks like Doc and Shaka have known each other for a while. Relationships always make a difference!

Having a friend on the BOT who has your back is a very nice enticement1
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 23, 2014, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: Warriors+Rams on March 23, 2014, 05:31:37 PM
Sadly, no. Just a Becky fan looking to stir the pot.

Scratch that, I heard him mention that Larry Mullins reached out to Shaka so there must be some truth in all of this.

Larry Mullen Jr.?  Of U2?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 23, 2014, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Did you watch the Kansas game?
Are you watching the Kentucky game?
Recruiting is huge, but you can't just throw a bunch of McDonald's AAs on the court and come back with a national title.

Excuse me!  Most coaches couldn't just throw burger boys out there and get a win, but me or 4ever?  Money in the bank.  I even have a pink suit like the one Al had.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 23, 2014, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 23, 2014, 05:48:30 PM
Larry Mullen Jr.?  Of U2?

You talkin' U2 - to me?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2014, 05:51:52 PM
Little Murs


You or 4ever would an impact hire. Have you spoke to Doc yet?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: forgetful on March 23, 2014, 07:40:31 PM
Quote from: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm not going to give you my credentials, but I am a person with "intimate knowledge" of the VCU athletic department.  I can tell you that Doc and Shaka DID NOT have a meeting Shaka boarded a Private Plane (with the rest of the team) and made their way home.  However, Larry Williams has reached out to Shaka Smart.  Rumbles over here in the AD office are loud.  There will be more information tomorrow. VCU is working on a rebuttal offer, and could go as high as 2 million and a guarantee on the 25 million dollar practice facility to commence construction with no delays.

In all honesty, Shaka has no attachment to Wisconsin from conversations that I've had with him.  This has merely been speculation of all Big Ten teams that have had an interest in hiring Shaka Smart.


Team Proctologist?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: GB Warrior on March 23, 2014, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 23, 2014, 07:40:31 PM
Team Proctologist?

Hey, A$$man!
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: willie warrior on March 23, 2014, 07:49:18 PM
Quote from: VCUInsider on March 23, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm not going to give you my credentials, but I am a person with "intimate knowledge" of the VCU athletic department.  I can tell you that Doc and Shaka DID NOT have a meeting Shaka boarded a Private Plane (with the rest of the team) and made their way home.  However, Larry Williams has reached out to Shaka Smart.  Rumbles over here in the AD office are loud.  There will be more information tomorrow. VCU is working on a rebuttal offer, and could go as high as 2 million and a guarantee on the 25 million dollar practice facility to commence construction with no delays.

In all honesty, Shaka has no attachment to Wisconsin from conversations that I've had with him.  This has merely been speculation of all Big Ten teams that have had an interest in hiring Shaka Smart.

Larry Williams made an offer? What school is he with? I hope the rumbles are loud at VCU. Better go higher than $2million, because I hear that Larry has $3million per for 7 years.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 23, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 23, 2014, 07:40:31 PM
Team Proctologist?

Things are always looking up
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Fullodds on March 23, 2014, 08:45:30 PM
This is rich. 

Almost as entertaining as Amoroso's buddy (super Mario?) Who used to post.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 23, 2014, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: Fullodds on March 23, 2014, 08:45:30 PM
Almost as entertaining as Amoroso's buddy (super Mario?) Who used to post.

Ahhh, the memories....
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: jakeec on March 23, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
I still think Greg Gard, Saul Phillips or even Brian Wardle would be great hires.  They would all play well in every part of the state.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 23, 2014, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: jakeec on March 23, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
I still think Greg Gard, Saul Phillips or even Brian Wardle would be great hires.  They would all play well in every part of the state.

We are way to big of a school to have an assistant of our major rivals.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 09:20:58 PM
Quote from: jakeec on March 23, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
I still think Greg Gard, Saul Phillips or even Brian Wardle would be great hires.  They would all play well in every part of the state.

Playing well to Peshtigo and Spooner probably isn't a major consideration for the administration.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on March 23, 2014, 09:24:08 PM
Quote from: jakeec on March 23, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
I still think Greg Gard, Saul Phillips or even Brian Wardle would be great hires.  They would all play well in every part of the state.
Jim Calhoun is interested in the Boston College opening... as it is reported by RealGM wiretap just now.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232555/Jim-Calhoun-Interested-In-Boston-College-Vacancy (http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232555/Jim-Calhoun-Interested-In-Boston-College-Vacancy)

But, . . . Boston College is not interested in him however.

If you are considering Howland how about Jim Calhoun?

Or better yet would Jim Calhoun be interested in coming here, and would MU be interested in having him?

?-( Intriguing....
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Blackhat on March 23, 2014, 09:26:20 PM
Thought we wanted to run a clean program...
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: BenCat12 on March 23, 2014, 09:28:32 PM
Quote from: jakeec on March 23, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
I still think Greg Gard, Saul Phillips or even Brian Wardle would be great hires.  They would all play well in every part of the state.
jakeec=Badger Troll
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: forgetful on March 23, 2014, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: BenCat12 on March 23, 2014, 09:28:32 PM
jakeec=Badger Troll

Although, I have often disagreed with him on the various boards, and disagree with him here, I would never call him a troll.  He is quite level-headed in his discussions about MU.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 23, 2014, 09:37:07 PM
Have to say, my immediate reaction to that instagram picture is that Shaka's just getting himself a raise. If he's truly talking to Doc about coming to MU, is that something that's going to show up on Instagram?
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 23, 2014, 09:41:14 PM
I just searched twitter and found this.  Remember this is the internet.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 09:42:16 PM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 23, 2014, 09:37:07 PM
Have to say, my immediate reaction to that instagram picture is that Shaka's just getting himself a raise. If he's truly talking to Doc about coming to MU, is that something that's going to show up on Instagram?

That photo is several months old.
Title: Re: Shaka Smart... Doc Rivers involved?
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 23, 2014, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 09:42:16 PM
That photo is several months old.

Ahh. Alright then.
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