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NIIICE!
We got our big now. Kick ass
That is great. Now we have to add another big next year.
Cool,
Does anybody have some video on this guy. Sounds like he could really be a polished player after some time at MU, hopefully he progresses this year and can make an impact next year with us.
Now,
Where do we get an additional scholarship?
Otule commitsOtule commits
By Todd Rosiak
Sunday, Nov 4 2007, 11:47 AM
Chris Otule, a 6-foot-10 center from Fort Bend Bush High School in Richmond, Tex., has orally committed to MU.
Otule's commitment is the second in a week for MU.
"Chris is probably one of the fastest-developing big men I've been around," said coach Ronnie Courtney, who is in his first year as coach at Fort Bend Bush after a six-year stint as head coach at Division I Texas Southern University. "Last year he had a season where he didn't play a whole lot, but got in here and had a great summer and came back to school and is improving as we speak. A very mannerable and intelligent young man, I can tell you that."
Otule, who is currently on his official visit to MU, chose the Golden Eagles over Baylor, Nebraska and Rice, but Courtney said both Kentucky and Connecticut had been expressing interest of late.
"He said it was a family atmosphere," Courtney said of Otule's reasoning for committing during his visit. "He loves Coach (Tom) Crean, he loves the players he is around, he loves the campus and the engineering program that Marquette has to offer. Coach Crean and those guys did a great job of showing the real Marquette, and how they are on a day-to-day basis."
Otule did not start as a junior at Fort Bend Bush, and Courtney estimated he averaged 5.0 points, 7.5 rebounds and 1.5 blocks per game on a guard-dominated team.
"He's very athletic," Courtney said. "He doesn't have big feet; he wears a size 14 shoe. But he can run like a gazelle. His wing span is 83 inches."
Courtney said at this point, Otule's offense is ahead of his defense.
"Chris is very multi-talented. He's got great post moves, I've even let him shoot a couple threes," said Courtney. "He can shoot the jumper and he can put it on the floor. I've gotten him to develop a jump hook with both hands, a drop-step and dunk on both sides of the basket. There's just a number of things that we've been working on.
"Defensively, he's a shot-blocker. He does a great job clogging up the middle for us."
Otule is the third Texas player to commit to MU over the past three weeks, joining Class of 2009 wing Erik Williams and Class of 2008 wing Joseph Fulce.
Otule's commitment puts MU over the scholarship limit heading into the 2008-'09 season, as its three available tenders have already been committed to Fulce, Nick Williams and Tyshawn Taylor.
MU oversigned by one last year as well, but that player, Damian Saunders, ultimately wasn't admitted into MU due to academic concerns.
The fall early signing period runs from Nov. 14-21.
http://blogs.jsonline.com/muhoops/archive/2007/11/04/otule-commits.aspx
Next year we will have Mbakwe, O'Tule, Williams, Taylor, and Fulce all as newcomers.
That is pretty solid, both at guard and in the frontcourt.
Things are looking alright after all. Nice job to TC and staff
There seems to be a lto of excitement about OTule from all concerned - yet they list him as a one star player in positon. Sound slik ehe is better than that..... is there video anywhere on him?
Welcome to OTule! O'Tule will Rule!
with his huge growth spurt, he hasn't really had the chance to grow as a center. He will be a bit of a project but from what we've heard about him, he should be able to contribute for the team.
Amal McGaskil did not start in high school and I believed he averaged only 4 points. Turned into a pro player.
A one star player?? I dont know anything about the kid but the way people have been talking about him I would have guessed a 3 star. Is he really a 1 star? If he is then we must be getting excited about any big we snag.
Credit goes to the MU coaching staff that has many roots in Texas - Rab, Setzer and Williams
Quote from: mudimitri on November 04, 2007, 02:33:10 PM
A one star player?? I dont know anything about the kid but the way people have been talking about him I would have guessed a 3 star. Is he really a 1 star? If he is then we must be getting excited about any big we snag.
Good point. He's a project. Also, given the priority placed on and over recruitment of guards and the weakness obvious to all fans that this team has on the front line, ANY recruit above 6'8" gets people excited. However, 2008 is proving to be another mediocre recruiting class which doesn't seem to address the weaknesses of this team. I am personally worried that we won't have the talent to be part of the upper echelon of the Big East in a couple of years.
I hope I am wrong and Otule turns out to be a monster in the paint and some of these top 100-150 level players step up over the next 2-3 years.
Quote from: mudimitri on November 04, 2007, 02:33:10 PM
A one star player?? I dont know anything about the kid but the way people have been talking about him I would have guessed a 3 star. Is he really a 1 star? If he is then we must be getting excited about any big we snag.
scout has him 3.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3452492
Quote from: downtown85 on November 04, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
However, 2008 is proving to be another mediocre recruiting class which doesn't seem to address the weaknesses of this team. I am personally worried that we won't have the talent to be part of the upper echelon of the Big East in a couple of years.
Hoopscoop already had it as a top 25 recruiting class before the Otule committ, and has the other 3 players ranked in the top 100. They split the players into distinct groups, 1-10, 11-40, 41-70 and 71-100. They have Williams and Taylor in the 41-70, and Fulce in the 71-100.
That's not mediocre by any stretch of the imagination.
Quote from: downtown85 on November 04, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
Quote from: mudimitri on November 04, 2007, 02:33:10 PM
A one star player?? I dont know anything about the kid but the way people have been talking about him I would have guessed a 3 star. Is he really a 1 star? If he is then we must be getting excited about any big we snag.
Good point. He's a project. Also, given the priority placed on and over recruitment of guards and the weakness obvious to all fans that this team has on the front line, ANY recruit above 6'8" gets people excited. However, 2008 is proving to be another mediocre recruiting class which doesn't seem to address the weaknesses of this team. I am personally worried that we won't have the talent to be part of the upper echelon of the Big East in a couple of years.
I hope I am wrong and Otule turns out to be a monster in the paint and some of these top 100-150 level players step up over the next 2-3 years.
Dude,
Seriously, how may times do you need to post this? Won't hang with the upper echelons of the Big East? We haven't landed a 5 star recruit in...I don't know how many years while Syracuse, UConn, Louisville always do yet we've done just fine to this point. And I know you'll counter with we won't be able to keep up with those programs but honestly, how many of those 5 star players are going to stay long enough to develop themselves and the team into a national power? Not too many, meanwhile you see all these cinderellas in March experience success because they have jr's and sr's who've stayed around for 4/5 years and developed themselves and the team. Personally, I think we're just fine. We add the right mix of talent and stability that grows and develops our teams into respectable competitors. The sky isn't falling and I don't see if falling anytime in the future. Trust in the coaches to find and develop talent and understand that many of these "dream" recruits aren't necessarily going to be sticking around long enough to force MU into the cellar of the Big East...
Quote from: bma725 on November 04, 2007, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on November 04, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
However, 2008 is proving to be another mediocre recruiting class which doesn't seem to address the weaknesses of this team. I am personally worried that we won't have the talent to be part of the upper echelon of the Big East in a couple of years.
Hoopscoop already had it as a top 25 recruiting class before the Otule committ, and has the other 3 players ranked in the top 100. They split the players into distinct groups, 1-10, 11-40, 41-70 and 71-100. They have Williams and Taylor in the 41-70, and Fulce in the 71-100.
That's not mediocre by any stretch of the imagination.
I think RSCI is probably the fairest assessment of a recruit as it is a composite of all the recruiting services. We have exactly 1 top-100 recruit in Nick Williams who is ranked 95. The rest of the recruiting class isn't ranked.
http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/RSCI_100_Fall_2008.htm
I think this recruiting class is perfectly fine for the Conference USA days. It is even o.k. by big east standards as long as every year isn't like this. It is just that we are now having 3 years in a row of similar recruiting results. 2005 was our last great class. I was just hoping that 2008 would be similar. My hopes are dashed again.
I do hope that our players this year do some damage in the tourney so we can become even higher profile to snag some of our 2009 prospects like Murphy and/or Wilson.
Wow! Excellent news! Scholarship table updated...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Rock .. did you update the schollie count for 09, 10, 11? It's currently 3,3,4 .. If I'm counting correctly, it should be 2,5,9. .. Right? 13 minus non-walk on players.
And that big ol -1 for next year. Ouch. Deja vu all over again.
Quote from: muarmy81 on November 04, 2007, 03:58:08 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on November 04, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
Quote from: mudimitri on November 04, 2007, 02:33:10 PM
A one star player?? I dont know anything about the kid but the way people have been talking about him I would have guessed a 3 star. Is he really a 1 star? If he is then we must be getting excited about any big we snag.
Good point. He's a project. Also, given the priority placed on and over recruitment of guards and the weakness obvious to all fans that this team has on the front line, ANY recruit above 6'8" gets people excited. However, 2008 is proving to be another mediocre recruiting class which doesn't seem to address the weaknesses of this team. I am personally worried that we won't have the talent to be part of the upper echelon of the Big East in a couple of years.
I hope I am wrong and Otule turns out to be a monster in the paint and some of these top 100-150 level players step up over the next 2-3 years.
Dude,
Seriously, how may times do you need to post this? Won't hang with the upper echelons of the Big East? We haven't landed a 5 star recruit in...I don't know how many years while Syracuse, UConn, Louisville always do yet we've done just fine to this point. And I know you'll counter with we won't be able to keep up with those programs but honestly, how many of those 5 star players are going to stay long enough to develop themselves and the team into a national power? Not too many, meanwhile you see all these cinderellas in March experience success because they have jr's and sr's who've stayed around for 4/5 years and developed themselves and the team. Personally, I think we're just fine. We add the right mix of talent and stability that grows and develops our teams into respectable competitors. The sky isn't falling and I don't see if falling anytime in the future. Trust in the coaches to find and develop talent and understand that many of these "dream" recruits aren't necessarily going to be sticking around long enough to force MU into the cellar of the Big East...
You are wrong on so many levels I don't know where to begin. First, I never said we need 5-star, one-and-done recruits. What I said in other posts is that I think you build an upper level BE program with 2 top-100 recruits per year and 1 project per year. Secondly, imagine, just imagine for a second we did manage to land a Michael Beasley (or a Dwyane Wade or a Carmelo Anthony). Imagine if we had Beasley this year. We would be top-5 ranked and a serious contender for the national championship. Wouldn't that be nice? Frankly, I'm not content to be a cinderella and I do not think a bunch of 2 and 3 star guys is a recipe for success. I think I saw somebody here post once, "if you want to win the Kentucky Derby you need a thoroughbred."
That all being said, I hope Otule is one of these recruits who flew below the radar and wasn't picked up by the scouting services till now. Perhaps he should really be rated 4 or 5 stars. There are some accounts that suggest that. However, more info tends to suggest he is still a project.
Quote from: downtown85 on November 04, 2007, 04:38:34 PM
Quote from: bma725 on November 04, 2007, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on November 04, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
However, 2008 is proving to be another mediocre recruiting class which doesn't seem to address the weaknesses of this team. I am personally worried that we won't have the talent to be part of the upper echelon of the Big East in a couple of years.
Hoopscoop already had it as a top 25 recruiting class before the Otule committ, and has the other 3 players ranked in the top 100. They split the players into distinct groups, 1-10, 11-40, 41-70 and 71-100. They have Williams and Taylor in the 41-70, and Fulce in the 71-100.
That's not mediocre by any stretch of the imagination.
I think RSCI is probably the fairest assessment of a recruit as it is a composite of all the recruiting services. We have exactly 1 top-100 recruit in Nick Williams who is ranked 95. The rest of the recruiting class isn't ranked.
http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/RSCI_100_Fall_2008.htm
I think this recruiting class is perfectly fine for the Conference USA days. It is even o.k. by big east standards as long as every year isn't like this. It is just that we are now having 3 years in a row of similar recruiting results. 2005 was our last great class. I was just hoping that 2008 would be similar. My hopes are dashed again.
I do hope that our players this year do some damage in the tourney so we can become even higher profile to snag some of our 2009 prospects like Murphy and/or Wilson.
Thing about the RSCI is that it can mislead you if you don't know about the individual rankings. For example, Fulce can't be a part of RSCI because he's a JUCO, and the rankings of JUCOs are done separately by nearly everyone. The other thing is, one good ranking can severely skew the rankings of the player involved in either direction which is exactly what happened with Williams.
Take a look at Williams and Taylor, and you'll see that despite Williams being in the RSCI, Taylor is higher ranked by nearly every service. HoopScoop has Taylor at #56 and Williams at #70. Rivals has Taylor at #104 and Williams at #149. Scout has Taylor as the #18 PG and Williams as the #33 SG. Rob Harrington has Taylor at #82 and Williams isn't in the top 100. In fact of every ranking service that the RSCI uses to make their list the only one that has Williams more highly ranked than Taylor is Scouts Inc. Which is generally regarded as the worst ranking service out there. In fact their information is so bad, they don't even know that Tyshawn Taylor is a PG, they have him listed as a SG.
My point is, you can't take the RSCI that seriously, because it's a flawed system. Nearly every ranking service out there thinks Taylor is a better player than Williams. But you'd never know that just looking at the RSCI.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 04, 2007, 04:41:53 PM
Wow! Excellent news! Scholarship table updated...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Don't mean to nitpick, but Mbakwe should be redshirted this year and given another season.
Nice.
But I'm tired of big men projects!!!
And size 14 feet?!? I've got just as big feet as him (13), and I'm 5'9"!!! I hope that means he's nimble!
Maybe MU's 2nd "dynasty" will not rely on a NY connection, but a TX connection!
Quote from: MOwarrior on November 04, 2007, 05:25:22 PM
Don't mean to nitpick, but Mbakwe should be redshirted this year and given another season.
Ooops, forgot to change that. Thanks! Updated again
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Last I remember, Wade wasn't that highly ranked out of high school. I could be wrong. He blossomed into a phenomenal player. It isn't always about landing the top 100 players if you have the experience from years past to teach the incoming guys the ropes and have a coaching staff that can develop players. Sure, recruiting high does help, but an experienced team is often better than a team filled with 4 and 5 star recruits that are freshman.
I'm excited to have Otule, but don't you think this will hurt our chances with Jamil Wilson and Erik Murphy for the '09 class?
Why?
I just got home from work and I've been so excited to tell you all this since about 10pm tonight. Crean and company rolled into the Miller Time Pub with Otule and his pops for steak dinner after the game. Matthews was there too. I had to restrain myself from chanting "we are marquette", demanding high fives or maybe something even more embarrassing.
Quote from: bma725 on November 04, 2007, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on November 04, 2007, 04:38:34 PM
Quote from: bma725 on November 04, 2007, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on November 04, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
However, 2008 is proving to be another mediocre recruiting class which doesn't seem to address the weaknesses of this team. I am personally worried that we won't have the talent to be part of the upper echelon of the Big East in a couple of years.
Hoopscoop already had it as a top 25 recruiting class before the Otule committ, and has the other 3 players ranked in the top 100. They split the players into distinct groups, 1-10, 11-40, 41-70 and 71-100. They have Williams and Taylor in the 41-70, and Fulce in the 71-100.
That's not mediocre by any stretch of the imagination.
I think RSCI is probably the fairest assessment of a recruit as it is a composite of all the recruiting services. We have exactly 1 top-100 recruit in Nick Williams who is ranked 95. The rest of the recruiting class isn't ranked.
http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/RSCI_100_Fall_2008.htm
I think this recruiting class is perfectly fine for the Conference USA days. It is even o.k. by big east standards as long as every year isn't like this. It is just that we are now having 3 years in a row of similar recruiting results. 2005 was our last great class. I was just hoping that 2008 would be similar. My hopes are dashed again.
I do hope that our players this year do some damage in the tourney so we can become even higher profile to snag some of our 2009 prospects like Murphy and/or Wilson.
Thing about the RSCI is that it can mislead you if you don't know about the individual rankings. For example, Fulce can't be a part of RSCI because he's a JUCO, and the rankings of JUCOs are done separately by nearly everyone. The other thing is, one good ranking can severely skew the rankings of the player involved in either direction which is exactly what happened with Williams.
Take a look at Williams and Taylor, and you'll see that despite Williams being in the RSCI, Taylor is higher ranked by nearly every service. HoopScoop has Taylor at #56 and Williams at #70. Rivals has Taylor at #104 and Williams at #149. Scout has Taylor as the #18 PG and Williams as the #33 SG. Rob Harrington has Taylor at #82 and Williams isn't in the top 100. In fact of every ranking service that the RSCI uses to make their list the only one that has Williams more highly ranked than Taylor is Scouts Inc. Which is generally regarded as the worst ranking service out there. In fact their information is so bad, they don't even know that Tyshawn Taylor is a PG, they have him listed as a SG.
My point is, you can't take the RSCI that seriously, because it's a flawed system. Nearly every ranking service out there thinks Taylor is a better player than Williams. But you'd never know that just looking at the RSCI.
Good points. RSCI is a composite of something like 7 recruiting services, it tends to catch players who are missed by some. Also, you are correct that it doesn't say which recruiting service is better It weights them equally. I am not able to judge that Scout is better or not than Rivals, etc. especially when it comes to a specific recruit therefore I tend to look at the composite. I personally think that RSCI can be taken more seriously when looking at the top 50 recruits. Anything beyond that may or may not be skewed. However, relying on any individual recruiting service is also flawed as these have regional biases and may simply just miss some recruits for various reasons. I actually hope you are right that Taylor is better than Williams.
My main point is still valid. I am just calling a spade a spade. 2008 is a ho-hum year with potential that some of the recruits break out but it hardly compares to DW's recruiting class or the three amigos' class. We need another one of those soon as DJ, Wes, and Jerel graduate in 2009 (maybe sooner). Keeping my fingers crossed.
Quote from: Desert_Eagle on November 04, 2007, 11:30:02 PM
I'm excited to have Otule, but don't you think this will hurt our chances with Jamil Wilson and Erik Murphy for the '09 class?
Nah......Burke will be a senior next year and he STARTED last night. There's plenty of room for high-ceiling baseline talent
" We need another one of those soon as DJ, Wes, and Jerel graduate in 2009 (maybe sooner). Keeping my fingers crossed."
Does the fact that we are one over the scholarship limit mean that DJ is definately gone after this year? I would think so but would like to know other theories. I don't think we would want to redshirt Otule or any of the other freshman but I guess that would be the first possibility. Thoughts?
Quote from: downtown85 on November 05, 2007, 04:56:50 AM
My main point is still valid. I am just calling a spade a spade. 2008 is a ho-hum year with potential that some of the recruits break out but it hardly compares to DW's recruiting class or the three amigos' class. We need another one of those soon as DJ, Wes, and Jerel graduate in 2009 (maybe sooner). Keeping my fingers crossed.
You may want to check the RSCI for Wade's year just to see who made it from MU. There is only one, Scott Merritt. ODB was only mentioned in one top 100 list just like Fulce. And Wade and Sanders while they each made more than 1 list, were not consensus top 100 guys, just like Williams and Taylor.
To say that this class doesn't compare to that class is just dead wrong. They likely won't end up having the college production of Wade's class, but out of high school the rankings are eerily similar for 3 of the 4 players. Obviously Merritt being consensus top 100 and Otule not makes a big difference, but the rest are nearly identical in type of ranking.
Quote from: bma725 on November 05, 2007, 07:40:22 AM
Quote from: downtown85 on November 05, 2007, 04:56:50 AM
My main point is still valid. I am just calling a spade a spade. 2008 is a ho-hum year with potential that some of the recruits break out but it hardly compares to DW's recruiting class or the three amigos' class. We need another one of those soon as DJ, Wes, and Jerel graduate in 2009 (maybe sooner). Keeping my fingers crossed.
You may want to check the RSCI for Wade's year just to see who made it from MU. There is only one, Scott Merritt. ODB was only mentioned in one top 100 list just like Fulce. And Wade and Sanders while they each made more than 1 list, were not consensus top 100 guys, just like Williams and Taylor.
To say that this class doesn't compare to that class is just dead wrong. They likely won't end up having the college production of Wade's class, but out of high school the rankings are eerily similar for 3 of the 4 players. Obviously Merritt being consensus top 100 and Otule not makes a big difference, but the rest are nearly identical in type of ranking.
You are right. I stand corrected. In terms of RSCI rankings the classes are comparable.
I would just think TC would be attracting higher profile players now that the program is higher profile, with 1 final four, a couple more NCAA appearances, and the BE to offer. Remember in 2000 we were in CUSA!
I know it is a long shot but perhaps one of these guys from the class of 2008 will be a pro prospect some day. Otule is intriguing. I will try to follow his development closely his senior year of HS.
Quote from: 1990Warrior on November 05, 2007, 07:01:55 AM
" We need another one of those soon as DJ, Wes, and Jerel graduate in 2009 (maybe sooner). Keeping my fingers crossed."
Does the fact that we are one over the scholarship limit mean that DJ is definately gone after this year? I would think so but would like to know other theories. I don't think we would want to redshirt Otule or any of the other freshman but I guess that would be the first possibility. Thoughts?
I see essentially 5 options:
1) DJ goes pro.
2) somebody else goes pro (Wes or Jerel)
3) somebody transfers
4) one of the new recruits is declared academically ineligible
5) something else that I haven't thought of.
I put the most likely scenario on (3). I think that he have a lot of talented guards and more talented guards coming in next year and perhaps some of them would see more playing time in another program. Redshirting someone is not an option as that still eats a scholarship.
Quote from: downtown85 on November 05, 2007, 08:00:08 AM
Quote from: bma725 on November 05, 2007, 07:40:22 AM
Quote from: downtown85 on November 05, 2007, 04:56:50 AM
My main point is still valid. I am just calling a spade a spade. 2008 is a ho-hum year with potential that some of the recruits break out but it hardly compares to DW's recruiting class or the three amigos' class. We need another one of those soon as DJ, Wes, and Jerel graduate in 2009 (maybe sooner). Keeping my fingers crossed.
You may want to check the RSCI for Wade's year just to see who made it from MU. There is only one, Scott Merritt. ODB was only mentioned in one top 100 list just like Fulce. And Wade and Sanders while they each made more than 1 list, were not consensus top 100 guys, just like Williams and Taylor.
To say that this class doesn't compare to that class is just dead wrong. They likely won't end up having the college production of Wade's class, but out of high school the rankings are eerily similar for 3 of the 4 players. Obviously Merritt being consensus top 100 and Otule not makes a big difference, but the rest are nearly identical in type of ranking.
You are right. I stand corrected. In terms of RSCI rankings the classes are comparable.
I would just think TC would be attracting higher profile players now that the program is higher profile, with 1 final four, a couple more NCAA appearances, and the BE to offer. Remember in 2000 we were in CUSA!
I know it is a long shot but perhaps one of these guys from the class of 2008 will be a pro prospect some day. Otule is intriguing. I will try to follow his development closely his senior year of HS.
In the past, this would have been considered a "great class", while this year we are considering it out "safety class" having lost out on a couple of guys.
I think you have a good point that we should probably be seeing some higher ranked classes... but realistically its more important where this group is ranked when they
leave MU then when they
come in.
Obviously MU needs to bring in talented kids, but player development is more important then having a "top ten" recruiting class. I'll take a lower ranked class with good kids who have some good upside.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see a top ranked recruiting class, but the program has had some good success with similarly ranked classes in the past.
PLUS: Shumpert and Wilson can be "program changers"... and MU is/was high with both of them... so if we keep having solid classes, it's only a matter of time before we land a "big fish".
When will the D WAde was not a top 100 recruit legend ever die?
While he was clearly missed y a few services Bob Gibbons a legend in the game had him top 50 as did 3-4 other services. Now clearly he was missed by a few services ...primarily do to being "overshadowed" a future HS to NBA player and a loaded AAu team.
Nevertheless, when 3-4 gurus see you fit to be top 50 you are not an unknown entity. the "not a top 100 recruit" legend is nuts. furhtermore, if his grades were in order the bigs would have been all over him.
Lastly, Bullseye who knows the Midwest as well as anyone had him rated #2 in Illinois behind said HS to NBA player...Darius Miles. If you still think the not a top 100 player legend holds true look at the rankings,.. Check out the #2 rated player out of Illinois for the past number of years every year that player is a top 100 recruit, most typically top 50 or higher...like this year's Shumpert...who will most likely be playing at the Bradley Center...in the McDonalds AA game! Give it a break
Quote from: Harrison on November 05, 2007, 08:23:21 AM
When will the D WAde was not a top 100 recruit legend ever die?
While he was clearly missed y a few services Bob Gibbons a legend in the game had him top 50 as did 3-4 other services. Now clearly he was missed by a few services ...primarily do to being "overshadowed" a future HS to NBA player and a loaded AAu team.
Nevertheless, when 3-4 gurus see you fit to be top 50 you are not an unknown entity. the "not a top 100 recruit" legend is nuts. furhtermore, if his grades were in order the bigs would have been all over him.
Lastly, Bullseye who knows the Midwest as well as anyone had him rated #2 in Illinois behind said HS to NBA player...Darius Miles. If you still think the not a top 100 player legend holds true look at the rankings,.. Check out the #2 rated player out of Illinois for the past number of years every year that player is a top 100 recruit, most typically top 50 or higher...like this year's Shumpert...who will most likely be playing at the Bradley Center...in the McDonalds AA game! Give it a break
3-4 didn't see fit to make him top 50, otherwise he would have made the RSCI top 50 since it is just a composite of the others rankings. Two services had him top 50, but most had him outside the top 100, and some had him well outside the top 100.
Desert,
No chance, Murphy and Wilson are blue chip players would would come in and contribute immediately (if not start). Otule has 0 impact on their recruiting.
Our wanted sign in front of the Al used to read "Wanted: Any big man, PT available"
It now reads "Wanted: Skilled big man, PT available"