If you measure success by winning at another program, with the exception of Rick Majerus, every coach that left Marquette in the last 30 years has never found success. I suppose we can argue about Tom Crean, but 1 Sweet 16 at IU in 6 years is not success (my IU Alum co-workers would love to show him the door). Dukiet, Deane, and O'Neill, reached the pinnacle of their college coaching careers at Marquette.
Something seems to go awry when the coaches leave, and yet, Marquette is sometimes viewed as a stepping-stone job. Why?
Answer, their are only 5 or 6 jobs in the country that are not stepping stones. Of these IU and UCLA turnover their coach every 5 to 7 years like MU. I suspect Syracuse and a Duke will wind up doing the same when their legends leave.
I like that explanation. Thanks
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 23, 2014, 06:55:29 AM
Answer, their are only 5 or 6 jobs in the country that are not stepping stones. Of these IU and UCLA turnover their coach every 5 to 7 years like MU. I suspect Syracuse and a Duke will wind up doing the same when their legends leave.
I would assume that the "blue-blood" programs are the ones that don't turn over their coaches and everyone else is a stepping stone? I would say Indiana and UCLA have not had success in quite some time. How long before a program is no longer a pinnacle program, or blue-blood?
Quote from: SERocks on March 23, 2014, 09:32:37 AM
I would assume that the "blue-blood" programs are the ones that don't turn over their coaches and everyone else is a stepping stone? I would say Indiana and UCLA have not had success in quite some time. How long before a program is no longer a pinnacle program, or blue-blood?
In fairness to UCLA, they've been to three final fours consectutively in the last decade. While I understand they never cut the nets down, I don't think you could come up with a very long list of teams that in the last 10 years have been to three final fours.
Quote from: warriorfred on March 23, 2014, 06:49:21 AM
If you measure success by winning at another program, with the exception of Rick Majerus, every coach that left Marquette in the last 30 years has never found success. I suppose we can argue about Tom Crean, but 1 Sweet 16 at IU in 6 years is not success (my IU Alum co-workers would love to show him the door). Dukiet, Deane, and O'Neill, reached the pinnacle of their college coaching careers at Marquette.
Something seems to go awry when the coaches leave, and yet, Marquette is sometimes viewed as a stepping-stone job. Why?
Unfortunately for Marquette, Dukiet reached the pinnacle of his career
prior to coming to Marquette.
Quote from: warriorfred on March 23, 2014, 06:49:21 AM
If you measure success by winning at another program, with the exception of Rick Majerus, every coach that left Marquette in the last 30 years has never found success. I suppose we can argue about Tom Crean, but 1 Sweet 16 at IU in 6 years is not success (my IU Alum co-workers would love to show him the door). Dukiet, Deane, and O'Neill, reached the pinnacle of their college coaching careers at Marquette.
Something seems to go awry when the coaches leave, and yet, Marquette is sometimes viewed as a stepping-stone job. Why?
You could make a case that the only Marquette coaches that went on to greater success were Majerus and Tex Winter.