Didn't even answer the 1st question "why did you leave?"
Being very aw schucks...
I noticed that too lol completely danced around that one.
Completely ignored the question "why did you leave?"
Sounds like he will be going after some of the recruits since "it's all about relationships"
"It'll be hard [to break through in the ACC]. That's part of the appeal." Uh huh.
Very indirect answer and looked very uncomfortable giving it
"i didn't think i was going to leave marquette"
"relationships changed"
hmm...
He's so full of chit
nm
My first comment was f-you buzzard.
I'm pissed they let him call the guys Marquette signed. You resign, give the keys and get out. You can talk to them after they have completed their career.
He looked cartoonish. I get what other fan bases said about him previously.
Don't like him right now. At all.
He answered every question fine except the first one asked and the only one I was curious to hear the answer to... I could have answered every other question just as accurately.
Quote from: T-Bone on March 22, 2014, 05:17:16 PM
My first comment was f-you buzzard.
I'm pissed they let him call the guys Marquette signed. You resign, give the keys and get out. You can talk to them after they have completed their career.
He looked cartoonish. I get what other fan bases said about him previously.
Let him call. We have them under contract anyway. It's up to us to decide if we'll release them or not.
Anyone else feel odd because they felt indifferent to seeing him with the VT pin on his lapel? I thought I would care a lot more when he left.
Thanks for the victories Buzz!
Pilarz/Larry A bomb finally came home to roost.
I hate CBS for giving him free PR.
"If I'm a top PG, give me your 15 second pitch"
Hope you're ready to sit on your ass for a year?
What an ahole. The only relationship he needs is a fist relating to his nose.
MU needs to play hardball with this huge dick. Scruples, he is following the Calapari model.
Sayonara dipstick--keep up with the country boy shtick. Heard your favorite song is Thank God I'm a Country Boy by John Denver.
If anyone finds a link to interview, could they please post it. Missed it.
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on March 22, 2014, 05:16:14 PM
"It'll be hard [to break through in the ACC]. That's part of the appeal." Uh huh.
Yeah, especially when he blew his lunch all over the New BEast.
Buzz really does like attention. And him being on CBS is great PR for him and Virginia Tech.
I wish they would've asked him if he knew Va. Tech used Scott Monarch's picture instead of his on their website.
the yucking it up about the new gig was a little too soon for my tastes, but of course it is - i was just dumped. whatever, I'm over it. He never felt comfortable and its an easy leave for him. Time to move on. One day we'll find someone who wants to be Marquette's coach.
Big Head with the spotlight. Wants to play in a big league and can't wait to start rebuilding.
Quote from: nyg on March 22, 2014, 05:23:32 PM
If anyone finds a link to interview, could they please post it. Missed it.
Sounds like he is going to be in studio the rest of the evening.
Going to be really fun seeing Crean and Buzz fired in the same season 4 years from now.
After seeing that (and he's going to be on more), MU better knock the next hire out of the park.
I don't think Buzz understands that he lost all his charm. His shtick will no longer play.
I almost puked with Buzz selling your my boy to Kenny Smith.
Assistants and recruits going with him, I'm sure he knows.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2014, 05:26:59 PM
I don't think Buzz understands that he lost all his charm. His shtick will no longer play.
Really? Wholly disagree. Easy to say as the ex. That's going to continue to work across America. Sometimes it takes years to realize the person you love is batsh!t crazy.
Don't want to be Chicken Little, but I think he's going to leave this program in shambles. If not this year's recruits, certainly future years, and assistants as well.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2014, 05:26:59 PM
I don't think Buzz understands that he lost all his charm. His shtick will no longer play.
Very smart of him to go on national TV like that. Really makes it look like he dumped MU for bigger challenges.
After 2 years in the cellar of the ACC, he won't be back on these shows.
I know he has to move on quickly and this is his first recruiting gig, but I thought he'd care about leaving Marquette more. He said it was hard, but no emotion. Not like i want him crying, but thought he have some better words to say. Well...he's moved on, now I move on. Next!
Kinda threw the Big East under the bus, his aw shucks might just work in Virginny! Knows how to work the room!
It is hard not to be a jilted lover. I hope he crashes and burns. What a phony; relationships? Like the ones he forged over the last three-four years with his current recruits that ended in one quick, what is best for me moment?
Here is what I hear, Buzz: Relationships don't really mean anything. Because, in the end, my (Buzz's) relationship with you, recruit, is less important than my own needs and wants.
The reality is, that the above is life. However, Buzz has sold everyone on some notion that that notion doesn't apply to him.
Hypocrisy. Relationships, my rear end.
Can't believe that this thread still has people throwing accolades at this walking talking douche.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 22, 2014, 05:29:14 PM
Very smart of him to go on national TV like that. Really makes it look like he dumped MU for bigger challenges.
Precisely. That's why I don't understand if MU really encouraged him to leave why we wouldn't have just flat out fired the man.
It's not what actually happened that matters, but rather the perception of what happened. If MU pushed him out the door then they played this situation about as poorly as they possibly could have.
Sounds like a Christ Complex to me
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2014, 05:26:59 PM
I don't think Buzz understands that he lost all his charm. His shtick will no longer play.
New audience.
Quote from: GoldenEagle2002 on March 22, 2014, 05:31:20 PM
I know he has to move on quickly and this is his first recruiting gig, but I thought he'd care about leaving Marquette more. He said it was hard, but no emotion. Not like i want him crying, but thought he have some better words to say. Well...he's moved on, now I move on. Next!
There was no emotion because the guy never really had any. All a big pile of BS.
"And that's how it is in life," said Buzz "Socrates" Williams, a self-proclaimed authority on life, for the 17,364th time.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 05:13:58 PM
Didn't even answer the 1st question "why did you leave?"
Because it's embarrassing to tell the nation it was made clear your ethical standards fall well short of those expected by your employer and that after multiple warnings it was decided to let you leave with dignity.
This university is a mess. Regardless of what happened, there was no way we were going to come out of this looking like the good guys.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 22, 2014, 05:25:08 PM
Going to be really fun seeing Crean and Buzz fired in the same season 4 years from now.
No postseason again next year and Crean is gone.
I can't believe people think Buzz is going to get fired. The bar is WAY low at VA Tech. With his JUCO connections and (assumed) lack of restrictions in that department, he'll likely have them rolling in a couple years. And by rolling I mean rolling by VA Tech standards. All it will take is being an NCAA participant in 2/3 years out of a 5 year span, regardless of if they get bounced 1st round. I'm confident he can get to that level fairly quickly, and he will be worshiped as a result. Remember, this is the school that has had NCAA tournament 2 appearances in the last 28 years, and their last S16 was 1967. NINETEEN SIXTY SEVEN! Whether he can get them to a level higher than 2/3 tourneys ever 5 years remains to be seen, but the barometer for success at VA Tech is at a crazy easy level for Buzz to meet or exceed.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 22, 2014, 05:23:39 PM
Yeah, especially when he blew his lunch all over the New BEast.
Well, he sure sliced thru the BE like a hot knife in butter this season, aina?
Quote from: mattyv1908 on March 22, 2014, 05:34:40 PM
Precisely. That's why I don't understand if MU really encouraged him to leave why we wouldn't have just flat out fired the man.
It's not what actually happened that matters, but rather the perception of what happened. If MU pushed him out the door then they played this situation about as poorly as they possibly could have.
Marquette had 15 million reasons not to fire him.
Always thought he was a really odd guy, but the realist in me has to admit that he probably is excited about going to a conference with Duke, NC, Virginia, NC State, etc, and leaving a conference with Xavier and Creighton. He's going to a crappy team with absolutely zero expectations for success. Any improvement he oversees will make him a hero.
The new Big East is an unglamorous turd that very few people are watching. It sucks that MU is in this boat. This whole situation is incredibly depressing.
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on March 22, 2014, 05:36:36 PM
This university is a mess. Regardless of what happened, there was no way we were going to come out of this looking like the good guys.
Starts with the Prez hire.....Gordon Gee is available.
Here's what I think its important to understand - Buzz really believes the things he says about relationships. But he defines "relationships" very narrowly. He sees his relationship as those with the AD, the BoT, the President. Those people are "Marquette" him. This message board is not Marquette. The students are not Marquette. The alumni base is not Marquette. We like to think that a coach has some connection to a school beyond the people in the corner offices, and in some cases that's probably true. But that was never true to Buzz.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 22, 2014, 05:37:37 PM
Well, he sure sliced thru the BE like a hot knife in butter this season, aina?
Smarmy. That's the best way to describe BW. The Bronzed Beast is slimy but BW is smarmy.
Ah gee boys I just want to have fun in a town of 42,000. I'm sure the family will love living in the middle of nowhere. Don't think that lipstick will work in Blacksburg. I truly wish him luck. I can not believe anyone can believe it is a top place to raise a family as per the press and is the reason for the move. This is a downgrade by any reasonable measure. Time to move on, MU will be fine.
Virginia Tech fired Johnson after two season. Why would people not think that.
Quote from: mattyv1908 on March 22, 2014, 05:34:40 PM
Precisely. That's why I don't understand if MU really encouraged him to leave why we wouldn't have just flat out fired the man.
It's not what actually happened that matters, but rather the perception of what happened. If MU pushed him out the door then they played this situation about as poorly as they possibly could have.
You wanna hire another big time coach? You don't can a guy after one bad season, no matter what friction existed. That's an even worse perception. Who cares what armchair America thinks? You take the high road from your potential next coach's perspective (as well as the unfortunately low buyout).
Part of me wanted to see him trip on the microphone cord and fall on his nose on national tv. Than I thought, "no, I'm sure it's wireless". Sigh.....
Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 05:36:27 PM
Because it's embarrassing to tell the nation it was made clear your ethical standards fall well short of those expected by your employer and that after multiple warnings it was decided to let you leave with dignity.
This is best explaination of the whole situation and why buzz left. Good old unethical buzz. Glad he is gone.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
No postseason again next year and Crean is gone.
I can't believe people think Buzz is going to get fired. The bar is WAY low at VA Tech. With his JUCO connections and (assumed) lack of restrictions in that department, he'll likely have them rolling in a couple years. And by rolling I mean rolling by VA Tech standards. All it will take is being an NCAA participant in 2/3 years out of a 5 year span, regardless of if they get bounced 1st round. I'm confident he can get to that level fairly quickly, and he will be worshiped as a result. Remember, this is the school that has had NCAA tournament 2 appearances in the last 28 years, and their last S16 was 1967. NINETEEN SIXTY SEVEN! Whether he can get them to a level higher than 2/3 tourneys ever 5 years remains to be seen, but the barometer for success at VA Tech is at a crazy easy level for Buzz to meet or exceed.
4 straight years of no tourney, or five with no tourney wins. Even Va Tech will eventually fire him.
He's never built anything from scratch before. So who's he going to be in front of?
Syracuse, Duke, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia, Notre Dame, Miami, NC State????
Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 05:38:15 PM
Marquette had 15 million reasons not to fire him.
His buyout was seriously $15 million? I haven't seen that anywhere else.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 22, 2014, 05:45:39 PM
4 straight years of no tourney, or five with no tourney wins. Even Va Tech will eventually fire him.
He's never built anything from scratch before. So who's he going to be in front of?
Syracuse, Duke, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia, Notre Dame, Miami, NC State????
Don't forgot L'ville. Plus, Va Tech just fired their new coach after two seasons.
Is it true that Buzz will make more than the football coach, Frank Beamer. I can't think that will go over well.
Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 05:38:15 PM
Marquette had 15 million reasons not to fire him.
+1
MU fires him and they pay off his contract, which has another 15 million left.
Make him feel unloved and he chooses a pay cut and many years of losing seasons.
Look at the bright side, unlike Crean, buzz will never again compete for a recruit we want (after this coming week)
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 22, 2014, 05:25:08 PM
Going to be really fun seeing Crean and Buzz fired in the same season 4 years from now.
you think Crean will last another 4 years at IU? the natives are already pretty restless in Bloomington.
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Quote from: Aughnanure on March 22, 2014, 05:45:39 PM
4 straight years of no tourney, or five with no tourney wins. Even Va Tech will eventually fire him.
He's never built anything from scratch before. So who's he going to be in front of?
Syracuse, Duke, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia, Notre Dame, Miami, NC State????
2 appearances in 28 years. Last S16 in 1967. He makes a couple tournaments in a short time span and he will be crowned. The bar is seriously that low. And I think he will be in the Miami/NC State group as early as two seasons from now. That's all it will take.
Quote from: Class71 on March 22, 2014, 05:51:20 PM
It has been in the press several times that it was $15m. It has also been reported that it was reduced to $100k in the past few months. A bit odd if true.
Confusing two issues.
The buyout is a penalty another school pays MU to hire Buzz. That was $2m but reduced to 100k when LW resigned.
On the other hand if Buzz is fired, MU has to honor the rest of his contract which had many years and 15 million left.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 22, 2014, 05:54:12 PM
Confusing two issues.
The buyout is a penalty another school pays MU to hire Buzz. That was $2m but reduced to 100k when LW resigned.
On the other hand if Buzz is fired, MU has to honor the rest of his contract which had many years and 15 million left.
Wow, I knew VA Tech would have to pay us $100k, did not know we would have had to pay the rest of his contract to fire him.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
No postseason again next year and Crean is gone.
I can't believe people think Buzz is going to get fired. The bar is WAY low at VA Tech. With his JUCO connections and (assumed) lack of restrictions in that department, he'll likely have them rolling in a couple years. And by rolling I mean rolling by VA Tech standards. All it will take is being an NCAA participant in 2/3 years out of a 5 year span, regardless of if they get bounced 1st round. I'm confident he can get to that level fairly quickly, and he will be worshiped as a result. Remember, this is the school that has had NCAA tournament 2 appearances in the last 28 years, and their last S16 was 1967. NINETEEN SIXTY SEVEN! Whether he can get them to a level higher than 2/3 tourneys ever 5 years remains to be seen, but the barometer for success at VA Tech is at a crazy easy level for Buzz to meet or exceed.
They're not paying Buzz $2+ million because they have low expectations and would be thrilled with a first-round ouster every 2-3 years. They're looking at him as a homerun hire who will bring homerun results, not a slight upgrade of Seth Greenberg. Buzz might get a honeymoon season, but after that he's going to be expected to put them in the second tier of the ACC - on par with Pitt, Maryland, Virginia, NC State, etc. If not, he's going to be considered a disappointment. And he'll be expected to do this with lesser facilities, resources and support than what he's used to.
Contract misinformation everywhere! smh
That's why it's called a contract. But, these things are all negotiable. Just need a good scheitster.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 05:55:56 PM
Wow, I knew VA Tech would have to pay us $100k, did not know we would have had to pay the rest of his contract to fire him.
That's why Ben Howland wasn't working right away. He still had time on his contract when UCLA fired him so he could sit back and collect millions!
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 22, 2014, 05:57:34 PM
Contract misinformation everywhere! smh
You keep saying this and never explain. So plead clarify the terms of Buzz's deal if you know them.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 22, 2014, 05:59:59 PM
That's why Ben Howland wasn't working right away. He still had time on his contract when UCLA fired him so he could sit back and collect millions!
That's the kind of passion we need!!
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on March 22, 2014, 05:28:50 PM
Really? Wholly disagree. Easy to say as the ex. That's going to continue to work across America. Sometimes it takes years to realize the person you love is batsh!t crazy.
Don't want to be Chicken Little, but I think he's going to leave this program in shambles. If not this year's recruits, certainly future years, and assistants as well.
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Don't even really want to watch it. But I'll wait for a link to the video.
Buzz's life was basketball...really am more comfortable getting the guy trying to hit the big time (and then hopefully the relationship with him grows deep)....Crean nine years, Buzz six.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 22, 2014, 06:00:34 PM
You keep saying this and never explain. So plead clarify the terms of Buzz's deal if you know them.
Yes, inquiring minds would love to know.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 22, 2014, 06:00:50 PM
That's the kind of passion we need!!
Maybe he was waiting for a great situation! That's the optimist in me.
Quote from: MUCam on March 22, 2014, 05:32:21 PM
It is hard not to be a jilted lover. I hope he crashes and burns. What a phony; relationships? Like the ones he forged over the last three-four years with his current recruits that ended in one quick, what is best for me moment?
Here is what I hear, Buzz: Relationships don't really mean anything. Because, in the end, my (Buzz's) relationship with you, recruit, is less important than my own needs and wants.
The reality is, that the above is life. However, Buzz has sold everyone on some notion that that notion doesn't apply to him.
Hypocrisy. Relationships, my rear end.
An utter fraud. Liar through and through.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24496651/video-buzz-williams-talks-new-job-at-virginia-tech
Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2014, 06:01:56 PM
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Rigby Reardon?
sweet.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 22, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Always thought he was a really odd guy, but the realist in me has to admit that he probably is excited about going to a conference with Duke, NC, Virginia, NC State, etc, and leaving a conference with Xavier and Creighton. He's going to a crappy team with absolutely zero expectations for success. Any improvement he oversees will make him a hero.
The new Big East is an unglamorous turd that very few people are watching. It sucks that MU is in this boat. This whole situation is incredibly depressing.
I don't think the Big East is a turd, and besides where else should Marquette go? A10? Patriot League? Good luck with all that.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on March 22, 2014, 06:02:26 PM
Don't even really want to watch it. But I'll wait for a link to the video.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24496651/video-buzz-williams-talks-new-job-at-virginia-tech (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24496651/video-buzz-williams-talks-new-job-at-virginia-tech)
short version, missing is the "pitch" to new recruits.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2014, 06:01:56 PM
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Jest, fine. But a couple things to be laid out here. Marquette is a fantastic destination for a coach. But it is going to be difficult to pull in a good one when you are missing leadership at virtually every single layer of the university.
No President. No Provost. No AD. We're missing deans left and right (not that a coach would or should give two damns). This university is a great destination for all of those individuals, but not until we begin filling top-down. Marquette needs to (and has the means to) absolutely nail the hiring of the next basketball coach. But paint me as skeptical so long as we are missing a president, and I don't think we're a week away from doing so.
And I thank you Brad.
You guys were right, bypassed the first question, then back to the norm with life relationships, UGH.....
Listen, for those of you who have not been to VT, it is a beautiful campus and as described in another thread, very rural and family like. But, B-ball wise, VT will get absolutely clobbered over the next few years. It will be a tough time and life relationships in the program will be above the charts.
I'm going to be sick...
Quote from: Blueprint on March 22, 2014, 05:32:04 PM
Kinda threw the Big East under the bus, his aw shucks might just work in Virginny! Knows how to work the room!
Kind of hoping he gets a little lost driving around and winds up in West Virginny. They'll welcome him with open arms.
Quote from: T-Bone on March 22, 2014, 06:27:06 PM
Kind of hoping he gets a little lost driving around and winds up in West Virginny. They'll welcome him with open arms.
Cue "Dueling Banjos."
Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on March 22, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
Jest, fine. But a couple things to be laid out here. Marquette is a fantastic destination for a coach. But it is going to be difficult to pull in a good one when you are missing leadership at virtually every single layer of the university.
No President. No Provost. No AD. We're missing deans left and right (not that a coach would or should give two damns). This university is a great destination for all of those individuals, but not until we begin filling top-down. Marquette needs to (and has the means to) absolutely nail the hiring of the next basketball coach. But paint me as skeptical so long as we are missing a president, and I don't think we're a week away from doing so.
That's fairly reasonable, though I think if Howland is the choice - and the reports of him already lobbying for the job are legit - that settles the question of finding a good hire.
But be that as it may, what you say above is a looonngg way from "Buzz is leaving the program in shambles," which is what you wrote in the post I was responding to.
Shambles is DePaul. Shambles is what Scott Drew inherited at Baylor. Shambles is what Crean inherited at Indiana.
Marquette basketball is nowhere near in shambles.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2014, 06:30:20 PM
That's fairly reasonable, though I think if Howland is the choice - and the reports of him already lobbying for the job are legit - that settles the question of finding a good hire.
But be that as it may, what you say above is a looonngg way from "Buzz is leaving the program in shambles," which is what you wrote in the post I was responding to.
Shambles is DePaul. Shambles is what Scott Drew inherited at Baylor. Shambles is what Crean inherited at Indiana.
Marquette basketball is nowhere near in shambles.
Agreed. Undoing much of the progress would have been a better word choice...
Stupid question pertaining to the recruits who signed LoIs...
If Buzz contacts them in any way/shape/form now that he's no longer the coach of MU, is that a recruiting violation on his/VT's part?
Is MU going to let them out of their signed LoIs? Are they allowed to stipulate "no VT" if they are given the opportunity to de-commit as part of the conditions?
I'm of the camp that it's time to play hardball here. If they've signed, they're coming this fall - or at least not going to VT.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 05:51:56 PM
2 appearances in 28 years. Last S16 in 1967. He makes a couple tournaments in a short time span and he will be crowned. The bar is seriously that low. And I think he will be in the Miami/NC State group as early as two seasons from now. That's all it will take.
But who cares what VT wants to consider a savior? If that's what he can do there, it's less than he could have done here. He can have VT. He'll never top Duke, NC, Louisville, or Cuse. So he's a 5th place player in a very good conference. Good luck to him. If he is actually making more than Beamer, he'll get torn apart if he's not delivering at the level of VT football. In addition, no self-respecting megalomaniac fball coach is going to let some megalomaniac bball coach usurp his throne. VT will never be a bball school. If Buzz wants attention, he better get it at home because VT isn't gonna give it.
We will be fine. We pay handsomely, have great facilities, a reasonable fan base (comparatively), and a great tradition.
MU will let them all out if that's what they want and I agree with that.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 22, 2014, 06:16:15 PM
I don't think the Big East is a turd, and besides where else should Marquette go? A10? Patriot League? Good luck with all that.
40% of the league in the tournament and it was a down year for MU & Gtown.
Every game on National TV.
500 million for a bb league.
I'll take that turd!
Yankee, Buzz doesn't give a chit about the campus beauty. He needed any port in a storm and they gave him a slip. Could sub out Wake, Auburn, or BC for VT and its all good with Buzz.
Quote from: MU7703 on March 22, 2014, 06:43:14 PM
But who cares what VT wants to consider a savior? If that's what he can do there, it's less than he could have done here. He can have VT. He'll never top Duke, NC, Louisville, or Cuse. So he's a 5th place player in a very good conference. Good luck to him. If he is actually making more than Beamer, he'll get torn apart if he's not delivering at the level of VT football. In addition, no self-respecting megalomaniac fball coach is going to let some megalomaniac bball coach usurp his throne. VT will never be a bball school. If Buzz wants attention, he better get it at home because VT isn't gonna give it.
We will be fine. We pay handsomely, have great facilities, a reasonable fan base (comparatively), and a great tradition.
I don't disagree with any of this. I'm just saying that the bar is so low there's little chance he gets fired for below par performance.
Buzz is on TBS analyzing the Dayton-Syracuse Game
Quote from: nyg on March 22, 2014, 06:25:00 PM
And I thank you Brad.
You guys were right, bypassed the first question, then back to the norm with life relationships, UGH.....
Listen, for those of you who have not been to VT, it is a beautiful campus and as described in another thread, very rural and family like. But, B-ball wise, VT will get absolutely clobbered over the next few years. It will be a tough time and life relationships in the program will be above the charts.
And he's tied to the AD once again.
So if the AD goes...
Quote from: Earl Tatum on March 22, 2014, 07:18:08 PM
Buzz is on TBS analyzing the Dayton-Syracuse Game
And apparently also hosting a variety show. WTF was the piano playing crap?
He looks to be in high spirits. I probably would be too if I was able to walk away from a job I was probably going to be fired from and land a new job before the axe fell with a decently comparable salary and a lot less stress.
He'll be on TNT/TBS after games and at halftimes. Took Kenny Smith's place.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 22, 2014, 07:18:19 PM
And he's tied to the AD once again.
So if the AD goes...
They'll bring in Larry Williams?
TBS only. Halftime and after game.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 07:01:50 PM
I don't disagree with any of this. I'm just saying that the bar is so low there's little chance he gets fired for below par performance.
Sorry. Didn't mean to single you out. It just seems like a lot of people are upset that he might last at VT with a mediocre record. That sounds like basketball purgatory to me.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 22, 2014, 05:46:58 PM
His buyout was seriously $15 million? I haven't seen that anywhere else.
His buyout was reported to be only $100,000 by Goodman today.
Quote from: mufansince72 on March 22, 2014, 08:07:03 PM
His buyout was reported to be only $100,000 by Goodman today.
That was what MU got. Not what it would have cost MU to fire Buzz.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 22, 2014, 08:19:23 PM
That was what MU got. Not what it would have cost MU to fire Buzz.
Yep. That's what I'm interested in. Broker seems to dispute that $15 million figure.
Buzz lives and dies with the relationship BS. Once it wears out he won't have much.
I thought his session on CBS was strained, like he knows his karma just went very, very negative, and he's distraught.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Does buzz know this is not the UVA job?
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 22, 2014, 08:25:28 PM
Buzz lives and dies with the relationship BS. Once it wears out he won't have much.
It won't wear out.
His 400+ letters to coaches have ensured job security forever.
I'm really sick of Buzz, and I really was behind him all these years. No doubt he poaches our program, or whats
left of it.
Maybe, but do the current players still buy into his BS or do they see through it and stay? Maybe with the new recruits it is a different story, but again it may be who recruited them. If it was not Buzz but an assistant, it may be a different story.
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 22, 2014, 05:25:08 PM
Going to be really fun seeing Crean and Buzz fired in the same season 4 years from now.
http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/collegebasketball/203563587813/0/buzz-williams-on-new-job-at-virginia-tech
He said "we" about 2 or 3 times in the session I just watched...he needs to look at his lapel pin and understand the "we" isn't MU anymore as he was referencing MU at the time.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 22, 2014, 05:20:17 PM
Thanks for the victories Buzz!
Pilarz/Larry A bomb finally came home to roost.
How long are you going to go with this line of thinking? Both are gone, have been...Buzz was given the kings to the kingdom.
God forbid Buzz had his hand slapped by his bosses for doing something that....deserved...hand...slaps....if not a ton more.
Honestly, Buzz should have gone to a SEC school where the adults only care about football and will let him do whatever he wants.
I think he tried, but Auburn was smart enough to hire Pearl instead.
I'm a Wisconsin fan, but seeing Buzz on TV sickened me. Just disgusting.
Do we really think Buzz was not a good coach? Prior to this season, I felt he really got the most out of his players in feb and march.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 22, 2014, 10:33:20 PM
I think he tried, but Auburn was smart enough to hire Pearl instead.
If you are going to hire someone ethically challenged Auburn Goes Big!
(Give BW some more time...)
Quote from: mviale on March 22, 2014, 10:36:13 PM
Do we really think Buzz was not a good coach? Prior to this season, I felt he really got the most out of his players in feb and march.
Liked his energy, wasn't fond of his coaching.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 22, 2014, 10:31:53 PM
How long are you going to go with this line of thinking? Both are gone, have been...Buzz was given the kings to the kingdom.
God forbid Buzz had his hand slapped by his bosses for doing something that....deserved...hand...slaps....if not a ton more.
Honestly, Buzz should have gone to a SEC school where the adults only care about football and will let him do whatever he wants.
Agree. If anything, it points to Larry maybe not being as awful as most think. Supposedly things deteriorated more than ever the past few months...after Larry leaves, and Buzz does a magic dance. So Cords comes in, and sees things are not as he left them, and cannot in good faith just leave things be. If Buzz had any issues with Larry or Pilarz, he could run to someone on the BOT or a booster and it was obvious who they were going to side with. If he had any issues with Cords, not sure he would have any champions in his corner on that one.
Every time I see his ugly mug, I'm even more convinced he was a charlatan fraud. Va Tech can have him. Honestly, not bothered by this at all. MU will be stronger after cutting ties with this goof.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 22, 2014, 05:29:14 PM
Very smart of him to go on national TV like that. Really makes it look like he dumped MU for bigger challenges.
I agree with this. It was an excellent P.R. move. Sir Charles practically kissed Buzz's ring on national television.
I do wish that the only journalist in the room had asked a follow-up after Buzz totally evaded the opening question (and the only question that really mattered), but I guess that would be expecting too much in today's TV environment.
Quote from: mattyv1908 on March 22, 2014, 10:42:18 PM
Liked his energy, wasn't fond of his coaching.
I agree 100%
Like it or not the dude does give good speech and that persona works on camera, radio, print and in the living room of recruits (real persona or not)
Bummed he left, hopefully the next coach takes us higher up, think Buzz wasn't up for re-building in MKE and couldn't handle the criticism this year.......will be interesting to see how he handles the rebuild in Blacksburg, couple years of 15-20 losses and he may start hearing Hokie criticism and then will see if he runs to a school in TX to hide again
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24496651/video-buzz-williams-talks-new-job-at-virginia-tech (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24496651/video-buzz-williams-talks-new-job-at-virginia-tech)
Quote from: muwarrior97 on March 23, 2014, 12:15:00 AM
and couldn't handle the criticism this year.......[/url]
Dude, its Milwaukee. What criticism? A few folks on the internet?
Quote from: Mutaman on March 23, 2014, 12:29:39 AM
A few folks on the internet?
Do you know who we are?
Quote from: keefe on March 23, 2014, 12:58:46 AM
Do you know who we are?
We are Scoopers! Scoopers of the world unite!!! (behind Howland)