I heard this earlier in the week (Monday) by someone close to the program who made me promised not post it. Well circumstances just changed.
He said their is an investigation of the BBall program. Didn't know, or would not say, if it's internal or NCAA. He said we would know more in a week.
Same source told me about Vander's fight and the Humphrey "incident" days before it was public.
Has anyone else heard this and/or provide more color?
Heard it. If true, might get dinged. No idea if it is, though.
Wow
And to think y'all didn't want Pearl. Money talks and bullchit walks
I would not doubt it. Have heard things about stuff at athletic dept but just hearsay. The guy is slime
VT wouldn't be sniffing Buzz immediately if true, because he is getting dinged as well.
Heard some stuff about how Buzz recruited Todd and thats why he was still on the team. Dont know if that is true or not but thats what I heard this season.
Quote from: melissasmooth on March 21, 2014, 05:41:29 PM
I would not doubt it. Have heard things about stuff at athletic dept but just hearsay. The guy is slime
How much interaction have you had with Buzz? Or how much have you witnessed him being slime? Just curious...
Wow, saddened and completely blindsided but that would explain the willingness to "let him go", if true.
Quote from: Ners on March 21, 2014, 05:43:17 PM
How much interaction have you had with Buzz? Or how much have you witnessed him being slime? Just curious...
F Buzz. Please post all heresay and rumors.
One reaps what one sows
Quote from: radome on March 21, 2014, 05:43:41 PM
Wow, saddened and completely blindsided but that would explain the willingness to "let him go", if true.
And his willingness to jump to some BS also-ran.
Is it unreasonable to wonder if Buzz was asked to leave?
Running out ahead of the posse?
Quote from: MARQ_13 on March 21, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
F Buzz. Please post all heresay and rumors.
What are we allowed to say here about the sexual assault?
Quote from: esard2011 on March 21, 2014, 05:42:59 PM
Heard some stuff about how Buzz recruited Todd and thats why he was still on the team. Dont know if that is true or not but thats what I heard this season.
Along the lines of what I've heard and seems reliable but goes way beyond recruitment.
Oh this should be good... ;D
I may just stay glued to the Scoop all night. Hello Friday!
Quote from: RichardShaw on March 21, 2014, 05:49:34 PM
Along the lines of what I've heard and seems reliable but goes way beyond recruitment.
Any insight as to how aware the school may have been vs. the coach? Biggest difference between probation (almost welcome in this period of transition) and the postseason ban hammer (nightmare).
Quote from: chapman on March 21, 2014, 05:52:36 PM
Any insight as to how aware the school may have been vs. the coach? Biggest difference between probation (almost welcome in this period of transition) and the postseason ban hammer (nightmare).
Heres what I heard specifically. Buzz didnt recruit Mayo honestly. When Mayo was getting in trouble for grades and there was an incident with a female, not sexual assult but he was found with her when there was supposidly a restraining order. Larry wanted Todd gone and Buzz was going to oblidge but Todd said he would reveal how Buzz recruited him which is one of the reasons why Larry left because Todd was still on the team.
Posted something similar in another thread...
Issues with Mayo and Vander are part of problem.
Buzz was given new rules to play by and didn't like them.
Admin not sorry to see him leave.
Quote from: esard2011 on March 21, 2014, 05:55:14 PM
Heres what I heard specifically. Buzz didnt recruit Mayo honestly. When Mayo was getting in trouble for grades and there was an incident with a female, not sexual assult but he was found with her when there was supposidly a restraining order. Larry wanted Todd gone and Buzz was going to oblidge but Todd said he would reveal how Buzz recruited him which is one of the reasons why Larry left because Todd was still on the team.
Wow, the whole thing comes crashing down cuz of Todd effing Mayo.
Quote from: texaswarrior74 on March 21, 2014, 05:57:14 PM
Posted something similar in another thread...
Issues with Mayo and Vander are part of problem.
Buzz was given new rules to play by and didn't like them.
Admin not sorry to see him leave.
You gotta go with the administration on this one.
Quote from: ecompt on March 21, 2014, 05:59:28 PM
You gotta go with the administration on this one.
For sure. Makes me wonder- if we are investigated, does the hammer hit Buzz (a la Bruce Pearl) or MU? I don't know enough about this stuff to have any idea how it works.
Quote from: EnderWiggen on March 21, 2014, 06:00:52 PM
For sure. Makes me wonder- if we are investigated, does the hammer hit Buzz (a la Bruce Pearl) or MU? I don't know enough about this stuff to have any idea how it works.
I think Buzz. MU did something similar with Monarch. Got rid of him before the NCAA could hurt MU.
If Buzz is in trouble, wouldn't that follow him to VT? I would doubly hate the phony if MU gets put on probation because of crap he did.
Quote from: ecompt on March 21, 2014, 06:03:40 PM
If Buzz is in trouble, wouldn't that follow him to VT? I would doubly hate the phony if MU gets put on probation because of crap he did.
maybe, but would explain why Buzz would hop on a second/third tier ACC team.
what does VT have to lose by taking a hit visa vie Buzz? a year or two with one less schollie? then they have a viable coach who might just lift them from the doldrums.
Quote from: esard2011 on March 21, 2014, 05:55:14 PM
Heres what I heard specifically...
Interesting. We all had that feeling we were doing just a bit too much to accommodate Buzz. Let the investigation play out; the way that sounds probation is in order, though probably not a ban if MU couldn't have been aware of anything. Only other thing to worry about is possible vacating of wins and the dollars that come with some of them. And if, as this could imply, Larry blew the whistle, good for him and there are some apologies in order.
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark....
Buzz leaving to a low level ACC football school, 7 years @ $18M not earth shattering, and this happening so quickly.
Quote from: TVDirector on March 21, 2014, 06:07:13 PM
maybe, but would explain why Buzz would hop on a second/third tier ACC team.
what does VT have to lose by taking a hit visa vie Buzz? a year or two with one less schollie? then they have a viable coach who might just lift them from the doldrums.
A visible coach with a dirty record. I know that doesn't mean much, but...
We appreciate your support of Marquette Athletics, but this thread was brought to our attention and I feel compelled to comment. There are no investigations that our department is aware of, and I would hate for such unjust rumors to damage us in our search for a new head coach. But these rumors are absolutely untrue.
Thank you,
Danielle Josetti
Associate Athletics Director - Compliance
Awesome screen name. Even better post!!
Quote from: rulzgal on March 21, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
We appreciate your support of Marquette Athletics, but this thread was brought to our attention and I feel compelled to comment. There are no investigations that our department is aware of, and I would hate for such unjust rumors to damage us in our search for a new head coach. But these rumors are absolutely untrue.
Thank you,
Danielle Josetti
Associate Athletics Director - Compliance
Is Ms. Josetti for real? If so, thank you for setting some posters straight.
Quote from: rulzgal on March 21, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
We appreciate your support of Marquette Athletics, but this thread was brought to our attention and I feel compelled to comment. There are no investigations that our department is aware of, and I would hate for such unjust rumors to damage us in our search for a new head coach. But these rumors are absolutely untrue.
Thank you,
Danielle Josetti
Associate Athletics Director - Compliance
You want these rumors to stop you have to explain to the world why someone leaves MU for the worst job in the ACC for a paycut. This smells of something wrong and no posts like this are going to change it.
Again, just repeating what I heard from someone. Did not hear it first hand.
Quote from: rulzgal on March 21, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
our search for a new head coach.
Great to hear. But no need to search, a guy who's been the three Final Fours and coached a blue blood for a decade wants to come here.
This thread is everything that is equally ugly and beautiful about Internet message boards all at the same time.
Rumors spread recklessly.
Compliance directors personally responding.
A black hole has no end.
From what I heard mike broeker is off to boston college so that smells like trouble to me.
Quote from: chapman on March 21, 2014, 06:33:04 PM
Great to hear. But no need to search, a guy who's been the three Final Fours and coached a blue blood for a decade wants to come here.
+1
We should fly our jet out to his front door!
If that is actually someone from the athletic department we now know for sure that they read scoop!
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2014, 06:30:38 PM
You want these rumors to stop you have to explain to the world why someone leaves MU for the worst job in the ACC for a paycut. This smells of something wrong and no posts like this are going to change it.
How exactly is 7 years @ $18M, a paycut?
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 21, 2014, 06:37:39 PM
How exactly is 7 years @ $18M, a paycut?
That's 2.45/year and published reports said he made $2.8/year at MU
Quote from: rulzgal on March 21, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
We appreciate your support of Marquette Athletics, but this thread was brought to our attention and I feel compelled to comment. There are no investigations that our department is aware of, and I would hate for such unjust rumors to damage us in our search for a new head coach. But these rumors are absolutely untrue.
Thank you,
Danielle Josetti
Associate Athletics Director - Compliance
Danielle, if you think a direct responsive statement will stop this crowd, well, you are clearly not familiar with the inhabitants of this board! LOL
Thanks for posting!
Mods, if you're worth your salt you'll delete this per Ms. Josetti's request.
Whatever happened to cause Buzz to leave, I have to think it occurred within the last six months or so.
In the months before that, he bought the house that he had been renting for several years. You don't do that if you are planning to leave.
I heard 3 years ago that Arizona and Wisconsin were done with recruiting Vander after someone in his "group" requested a cash payment ($50,000?). Heard again last fall that someone in Vander's family was helped with a job (from an MU person). Also heard some other legal trouble with Vander as well.
Quote from: rulzgal on March 21, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
We appreciate your support of Marquette Athletics, but this thread was brought to our attention and I feel compelled to comment. There are no investigations that our department is aware of, and I would hate for such unjust rumors to damage us in our search for a new head coach. But these rumors are absolutely untrue.
Thank you,
Danielle Josetti
Associate Athletics Director - Compliance
If you are real I like you.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/acad-comp/mtt/josetti_danielle00.html
YOURE REAL
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 21, 2014, 06:42:30 PM
Mods, if you're worth your salt you'll delete this per Ms. Josetti's request.
Has anyone official ever done something like this before in the history of this, or any other board? If "official MU" was worried about this thread, contact the mods directly and let them deal with it. This post is the wrong way.
So, I'm calling BS on this post.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 21, 2014, 06:42:30 PM
Mods, if you're worth your salt you'll delete this per Ms. Josetti's request.
Why? She just set the record straight. If deleted no one would know.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 21, 2014, 06:42:30 PM
Mods, if you're worth your salt you'll delete this per Ms. Josetti's request.
Even though I participated in this thread, I agree deleting this thread in the best interests of MU is the reasonable/prudent thing to do.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
Has anyone official ever done something like this before in the history of this, or any other board? If "official MU" was worried about this thread, contact the mods directly and let them deal with it. This post is the wrong way.
So, I'm calling BS on this post.
Her BS call on you was much more convincing.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
Has anyone official ever done something like this before in the history of this, or any other board? If "official MU" was worried about this thread, contact the mods directly and let them deal with it. This post is the wrong way.
So, I'm calling BS on this post.
She has posted 3 times. The other two were back in 2010 pointing out we were all boosters and we shouldn't contact recruits, etc. Why on earth would she wait 4 years to post again when should could have been taking part in such intelligent conversations all this time?
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 21, 2014, 06:48:02 PM
Even though I participated in this thread, I agree deleting this thread in the best interests of MU is the reasonable/prudent thing to do.
And the comments will just move to a new thread. Unless MUScoop shuts down completely no point in removing threads.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 21, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
Has anyone official ever done something like this before in the history of this, or any other board? If "official MU" was worried about this thread, contact the mods directly and let them deal with it. This post is the wrong way.
So, I'm calling BS on this post.
Why? Because you can't wrap your head around the fact that coaching for this school in it's current conference isn't as big a job as you believe it to be?
The woman was kind enough to dispell the rumor that Marquette is under an investigation. I'm sure I'm not alone saying that I personally appreciate that.
Looks like you need to find a better 'source'.
Her email agrees to the email on the Mu athletics site and unless I am mistaken you have to he a confirmation email to post, so I'm saying it may be legit.
Quote from: mattyv1908 on March 21, 2014, 06:51:40 PM
Why? Because you can't wrap your head around the fact that coaching for this school in it's current conference isn't as big a job as you believe it to be?
The woman was kind enough to dispell the rumor that Marquette is under an investigation. I'm sure I'm not alone saying that I personally appreciate that.
Looks like you need to find a better 'source'.
For the record, I said their was an investigation. I did not say what it was, because I do not know what it was or if it was true, as I made clear in the first post. The three pages of speculation were others filling in blanks, if you chose to believe them.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 21, 2014, 05:58:31 PM
Wow, the whole thing comes crashing down cuz of Todd effing Mayo.
Which is why Huggs didn't want him. Yet Buzz danced on the logo?
Pearl got banned, because he lied to NCAA. The Missouri coach (Haith?) left Miami with no reprimand. The Indiana coach prior to Crean left Oklahoma after getting in trouble there and then stupidly did the same thing at Indiana. Indiana got what they deserved for hiring him. Sutton jumped from Kentucky to Oklahoma St, with no consequences after he got Kentucky in trouble. There is a long history of coaches moving to escape their misdeeds. I have no knowledge that Buzz did anything wrong, I am just showing that there is a history of other schools taking misbehaving coaches.
I'll lock it up. Deleting it would just lead to similar threads. After all, she didn't choose to contact us privately, but rather chose to speak directly to all of you to deny the rumors.
Man .. wrong week to pick to stop sniffing glue.