Yes, I'm going to freak out for a moment...
How will this affect our 2014 commits? As well, further, what about 2015, 16, 17 kids? Nick N? Stone?
We could very quickly bottom out. Especially if assistants who have created recruiting in-roads leave like Chew.
unnatural carnal knowledge.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 21, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
Yes, I'm going to freak out for a moment...
How will this affect our 2014 commits? As well, further, what about 2015, 16, 17 kids? Nick N? Stone?
We could very quickly bottom out. Especially if assistants who have created recruiting in-roads leave like Chew.
unnatural carnal knowledge.
Yep this sucks.
I am not terribly worried about our instate guys, or even the Chicago born players like Steve. I don't see Burton or Duane leaving, and I feel the same way about the MU lifers like Noskowiak, Cohen, and Flory. I'm not even convinced this will affect our status with Stone.
Quote from: ODMU238 on March 21, 2014, 05:00:37 PM
I am not terribly worried about our instate guys, or even the Chicago born players like Steve. I don't see Burton or Duane leaving, and I feel the same way about the MU lifers like Noskowiak, Cohen, and Flory. I'm not even convinced this will affect our status with Stone.
I'll have what he/she's having!
If we obviously didn't know what was going through the mind of a 40yr old why would we even pretend to know what is going through the mind of a teenager?
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 21, 2014, 05:11:35 PM
If we obviously didn't know what was going through the mind of a 40yr old why would we even pretend to know what is going through the mind of a teenager?
When has that stopped anybody on this board before.
Burton said he was shocked and surprised. But he also said he was staying at marquette
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 21, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
Burton said he was shocked and surprised. But he also said he was staying at marquette
I'd be surprised if he left. It has a chance to really be "his team" next year
Nick N. just tweeted that people need to stop asking him questions, because he has no answers right now.
Kiss Hill good bye
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 21, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
Burton said he was shocked and surprised. But he also said he was staying at marquette
Attaboy. We're just as committed to him.
We'll soon see that the program is bigger than one man. Players staying, a coach with three Final Fours reportedly expressing interest in taking the helm.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2014, 05:28:03 PM
Kiss Hill good bye
If he follows Buzz, he will sit his first year anyway.
This is where I have the biggest problem. Is that his players are shocked. They should be the first to know. That to me is the most classless thing of the entire situation.
Buzz always said the program was about the players...
Lets keep it that way and hope the players know
Quote from: ecompt on March 21, 2014, 05:39:56 PM
If he follows Buzz, he will sit his first year anyway.
I'm thinkin' more like Kentucky
Quote from: ecompt on March 21, 2014, 05:39:56 PM
If he follows Buzz, he will sit his first year anyway.
Don't think that's true if we release him from his LOI but I could be wrong
Quote from: chapman on March 21, 2014, 05:39:06 PM
Attaboy. We're just as committed to him.
We'll soon see that the program is bigger than one man. Players staying, a coach with three Final Fours reportedly expressing interest in taking the helm.
Hell yeah to Burton...love him taking a leadership position and stating his intentions right away. Milwaukee kid, who wanted to be an example to Milwaukee kids...shows he'd at MU for that reason above Buzz.
Also think with how bizzarely Buzz coached team this year - this may actually HELP retain some of the young talent...can't think for a minute JJJ, Burton and Dawson all weren't scratching their heads...wondering WTF?
Quote from: Jajuannaman on March 21, 2014, 05:44:29 PM
Don't think that's true if we release him from his LOI but I could be wrong
He means if he goes to VT, Buzz will not play him.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 21, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
He means if he goes to VT, Buzz will not play him.
Haha well played. Needed that levity
I really just want to keep most of our incoming guys. If we can get a coach like Howland I will feel infinitely better about our recruiting chances. Chew will just be damage control to keep his connection with the recruits.
Howland also has proven success with bigs (i.e. Love). Our only hope for Stone.
Serious question .. why would any player (beyond juniors) stay at MU? There's just a world of better opportunities out there right now, for a transfer or new recruit.
Obviously, if you're from Wisconsin and want to play close to home, ok, that makes sense. Otherwise .. really?
MU, via crushing losses of the Big East, ESPN, and now Buzz leaving is half the program it was 12 months ago. Brutal.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 21, 2014, 06:05:47 PM
Serious question .. why would any player (beyond juniors) stay at MU? There's just a world of better opportunities out there right now, for a transfer or new recruit.
Obviously, if you're from Wisconsin and want to play close to home, ok, that makes sense. Otherwise .. really?
MU, via crushing losses of the Big East, ESPN, and now Buzz leaving is half the program it was 12 months ago. Brutal.
Exactly why we need a proven coach (i.e. Howland). This is not an appropriate time to be giving someone a chance to prove themselves.
Ahmed Hill @MedHill_14 1h
That's crazy that I find this out on my birthday WOW this is crazy!!
Recruits can rest easy. Marquette will hire a coach interested in playing the best players, not who he "believes in". Good riddance.
Marquette is a really good job, they'll hire a great coach and continue to be a high level program.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 21, 2014, 06:05:47 PM
Serious question .. why would any player (beyond juniors) stay at MU? There's just a world of better opportunities out there right now, for a transfer or new recruit.
Obviously, if you're from Wisconsin and want to play close to home, ok, that makes sense. Otherwise .. really?
MU, via crushing losses of the Big East, ESPN, and now Buzz leaving is half the program it was 12 months ago. Brutal.
hahaha, really? Man up, bro. There is a multitude of reasons why.
Duane's tweet: We will work harder then ever and to keep the tradition going no matter who they bring in. We will bounce back. #mubb
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 21, 2014, 06:26:35 PM
Duane's tweet: We will work harder then ever and to keep the tradition going no matter who they bring in. We will bounce back. #mubb
best news I heard today
I love Du. Wilson's attitude!
Good news is that Duane likely stays put.
That's awesome! Can't wait to see Duane playing. This may keep Johnson around now...we have the new big three in place at the 1 2 and 3. I think Fischer is staying too. Not really worried about the squad. Derrick won't be starting and playing so many minutes now that Buzz is gone. How fast things change.
I love our Milwaukee guys. Glad theyre staying put. Hopefully Jajuan will be happier too.
The players need to be the biggest recruiters right now. Have a great, young local nucleus of talent that will keep us afloat for the next 3-4 years.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 21, 2014, 06:26:35 PM
Duane's tweet: We will work harder then ever and to keep the tradition going no matter who they bring in. We will bounce back. #mubb
That's what Buzz told him to tweet.
Well the silver lining of this day is that I got retweeted by Duane.
Looks like we won't have to worry about Derrick Wilson starting anymore!
Nick Noskowiak says that he is still verbally committed to Marquette.
http://host.madison.com/sports/prep-boys-basketball-sun-prairie-s-nick-noskowiak-still-committed/article_b44ac59e-b151-11e3-8255-001a4bcf887a.html (http://host.madison.com/sports/prep-boys-basketball-sun-prairie-s-nick-noskowiak-still-committed/article_b44ac59e-b151-11e3-8255-001a4bcf887a.html)
One of you tweeters should monitor Mr. Hill.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 21, 2014, 09:05:28 PM
Nick Noskowiak says that he is still verbally committed to Marquette.
http://host.madison.com/sports/prep-boys-basketball-sun-prairie-s-nick-noskowiak-still-committed/article_b44ac59e-b151-11e3-8255-001a4bcf887a.html (http://host.madison.com/sports/prep-boys-basketball-sun-prairie-s-nick-noskowiak-still-committed/article_b44ac59e-b151-11e3-8255-001a4bcf887a.html)
I'd feel better if he said, "I'm still committed to Marquette", without the "verbal" modifier.
Quote from: AZWarrior on March 21, 2014, 09:20:19 PM
I'd feel better if he said, "I'm still committed to Marquette", without the "verbal" modifier.
Considering he does not know who the new coach will be, I'd say he handled it pretty well.
Quote from: AZWarrior on March 21, 2014, 09:20:19 PM
I'd feel better if he said, "I'm still committed to Marquette", without the "verbal" modifier.
Well he can't sign an LOI yet so the commitment = verbal. Probably just being detailed. Doesn't mean he is 100% confirmed here though...like any early signee.
other than being shocked, hill is radio silent.
the longer we go without a coach the less likely it will be he comes to mu
He'll go with Buzzboy, he had his arm around him just last week
Quote from: Blueprint on March 21, 2014, 10:10:22 PM
He'll go with Buzzboy, he had his arm around him just last week
Mizzou, if they can take him. Ahmed doesn't deserve VT, he's so much better than that.
Glad to hear Duane, Burton, and Noskowiak are still in the fold....for now. I'm not worried about the Chicago/Wisconsin kids. Steve, Harris, Cohen, Fischer, and Flory should still be golden. Pierce, I don't think he is getting better offers than us, especially with him sitting chunks of his senior season. The juniors may leave if they feel that they will be replaced on the depth chart.
Biggest questions marks: JJJ, Hill, Shayok, and Dawson
So, just thinking about coaching hires and recruit relations. I'm on-board the Howland train, but, in further thinking, does hiring Howland make sense to not see MU drop a bit in the short term? Say the choice is Howland or Archie Miller - would we be better off taking Miller d/t his current recruits and recruiting further out already being established? As we're seeing with a couple 2014 MU commits, they're opting out in hopes to follow Buzz (one would assume). So, would bringing in a current coach allow for us to keep some guys coming in next season that are already tied to that coach?