I don't know how many of you know about IWB's blog talk radio but they produce a very cool radio show that offers their viewpoints, allow listener call ins and hit on some cool MU topics.
I just listened to their broadcast from yesterday and it was, as usual, very entertaining.
Topics they discussed were: lack of team leadership, NIT snub, freshmen playing time, Buzz coaching rumors.
They also provide some interesting inside nuggets including a hint on JJJ lack of playing time, possible timeline for president/AD news and previous Buzz coaching rumors.
If you have time, take a listen.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/brewcityball
I can tell these guys don't spend a lot of time on this board. Jamil became the glue guy, not the star leader.
Pretty bland and not particularly insightful. The Scrambled Eggs Podcasts are far better.
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Quote from: mufanatic on March 20, 2014, 11:29:29 AM
I don't know how many of you know about IWB's blog talk radio but they produce a very cool radio show that offers their viewpoints, allow listener call ins and hit on some cool MU topics.
I just listened to their broadcast from yesterday and it was, as usual, very entertaining.
Topics they discussed were: lack of team leadership, NIT snub, freshmen playing time, Buzz coaching rumors.
They also provide some interesting inside nuggets including a hint on JJJ lack of playing time, possible timeline for president/AD news and previous Buzz coaching rumors.
If you have time, take a listen.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/brewcityball
Please don't make me listen to the whole thing to get the JJJ lack of playing time hint. Someone, anyone?
+1
IWB- The early season did not lend itself to playing freshmen. Too many early tough games. "Zach" lamented JJJ not playing more, taking minutes from Jake. IWB- Buzz's defense is like calculus.
Sometimes a player is in a coach's doghouse. Sometimes academic trouble. (incidental throat clear?) More to it than what fans see from the outside. Zach- give freshmen more consistent early season run.
Zach- Buzz's loyalty to Derrick may have stunted Dawson's growth.
Uncle John (caller)- freshman got what would be considered normal minutes for freshmen. (The non 1 and done types)
IWB- SMU came calling with a $35 million dollar offer. (wow.) Buzz has it too good right now. With Larry and Fr. Pilarz gone, a lot of tension is gone. Zach- you saw what happened when a president and AD came in that didn't care about basketball. Basketball is a vital part of MU's image. Pilarz never understood that.
IWB- He's got a great job at MU. Well paid. Great practice facility. Just basketball. Good conference, great TV deal. Wife and kids love it here. Buzz isn't about the money, he is about respect. As long as that is ironed out under the new administration, IWB sees Buzz at MU for a long time.
When Oregon called, Buzz informed Cottingham what was going on. He listened, because he didn't want to burn any bridges, wanted to show respect. All about relationships. He will always answer the phone.
IWB- Buzz has said that he will be at MU as long as they want him. He didn't feel wanted by Larry and Pilarz. S-16, S-16, E-8 without a raise from Larry and Pilarz. It is about respect. If the new admin makes Buzz feel wanted, he isn't going anywhere.
Let me clarify - the show is unabashed boosterism. I was expecting a candid, objective assessment of the season just concluded. If you are expecting investigative journalism you will be disappointed. I wanted McNeil-Lehrer but got Burson Marsteller. Think Dick Vitale discussing Duke.
Ganzer and Panther are ardent Marquette fans and their passion is genuine and they do have strong opinions in support of our favorite basketball team. One should not expect an articulated dissection of the good and the bad, however.
One means perhaps for addressing content would be to call in. Not sure of the mechanics for this but it could help guide the content from statement to dialogue.
This show is no more painful to listen to than this board is to read. More actual inside info in 90 minutes than in a month of scoop. It is MU hoops. I'm obsessed.
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 12:58:07 PM
This show is no more painful to listen to than this board is to read. More actual inside info in 90 minutes than in a month of scoop. It is MU hoops. I'm obsessed.
+1
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 12:31:11 PM
IWB- SMU came calling with a $35 million dollar offer. (wow.) Buzz has it too good right now. With Larry and Fr. Pilarz gone, a lot of tension is gone. Zach- you saw what happened when a president and AD came in that didn't care about basketball. Basketball is a vital part of MU's image. Pilarz never understood that.
IWB- He's got a great job at MU. Well paid. Great practice facility. Just basketball. Good conference, great TV deal. Wife and kids love it here. Buzz isn't about the money, he is about respect. As long as that is ironed out under the new administration, IWB sees Buzz at MU for a long time.
When Oregon called, Buzz informed Cottingham what was going on. He listened, because he didn't want to burn any bridges, wanted to show respect. All about relationships. He will always answer the phone.
Absolutely great info right here. Thanks for posting.
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 12:58:07 PM
This show is no more painful to listen to than this board is to read. More actual inside info in 90 minutes than in a month of scoop. It is MU hoops. I'm obsessed.
Thanks for doing the heavy lifting for many of us.
Tower, who is Zach and is he close to the program like IWB?
No idea.
Out of curiosity do people want to be able to call in to a "talk show"? I assumed 95% of listeners don't call in and get pissed at the stupid stuff the 5% say on air...
Only two callers are regulars from the scout and brewcityball boards.
I don't trust people that only go by initials
Some guy really said LW didn't care about basketball? ::) Good thing he helped take the lead in making sure MU landed well in the Big East, I suppose he did that to benefit the cross country team.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2014, 03:44:17 PM
Some guy really said LW didn't care about basketball? ::) Good thing he helped take the lead in making sure MU landed well in the Big East, I suppose he did that to benefit the cross country team.
Or he did it because it was his job.
I heard him talk at the 21 Club last year before the BET. Passion is not a word I would use. Being there because he was told to be there is a sentence I would use though.
Quote from: The Lens on March 20, 2014, 03:45:39 PM
Or he did it because it was his job.
I heard him talk at the 21 Club last year before the BET. Passion is not a word I would use. Being there because he was told to be there is a sentence I would use though.
What's the 21 Club? It sounds like it's either a titty bar or Pat Robertson's money shakedown scheme for young adults.
Quote from: keefe on March 20, 2014, 04:16:51 PM
What's the 21 Club? It sounds like it's either a titty bar or Pat Robertson's money shakedown scheme for young adults.
Try the steak tartare. It's off the menu but Louis'll make it for you...
Quote from: ceh on March 20, 2014, 04:42:18 PM
Try the steak tartare. It's off the menu but Louis'll make it for you...
Ah, New York State of Mind. I thought it was a Marquette booster club of some sort.
Quote from: keefe on March 20, 2014, 04:16:51 PM
What's the 21 Club? It sounds like it's either a titty bar or Pat Robertson's money shakedown scheme for young adults.
:D 8-)
Quote from: The Lens on March 20, 2014, 03:45:39 PM
Or he did it because it was his job.
I heard him talk at the 21 Club last year before the BET. Passion is not a word I would use. Being there because he was told to be there is a sentence I would use though.
Fair point. Would you call Cottingham a passionate guy? I wouldn't.
I just find the notion that the AD didn't care about basketball so absurd to be laughable. Now, the president, that's a different story. As I mentioned here a few weeks ago when I talked to Dan Guerrero, he knows Larry. Some of this conversation about LW has become more myth than reality, at least as it pertains to LW and his appreciation for basketball. Sure, he had some differing views on the who and the what, that's not out of the ordinary. What kind of kids, how you implement discipline, so on and so forth. But to suggest he did not care for basketball is just wrong. I suspect what is happening here is that a few people didn't like his (or Pilarz') view of how things should be, especially in light of some of the major public issues at the time, but that doesn't mean he didn't care for basketball. LW isn't a stupid man, you don't take a job to be the AD at a basketball only school with the 3rd highest basketball budget in the country and not care about that sport....it's an absurd comment.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2014, 06:02:47 PM
Fair point. Would you call Cottingham a passionate guy? I wouldn't.
I just find the notion that the AD didn't care about basketball so absurd to be laughable. Now, the president, that's a different story. As I mentioned here a few weeks ago when I talked to Dan Guerrero, he knows Larry. Some of this conversation about LW has become more myth than reality, at least as it pertains to LW and his appreciation for basketball. Sure, he had some differing views on the who and the what, that's not out of the ordinary. What kind of kids, how you implement discipline, so on and so forth. But to suggest he did not care for basketball is just wrong. I suspect what is happening here is that a few people didn't like his (or Pilarz') view of how things should be, especially in light of some of the major public issues at the time, but that doesn't mean he didn't care for basketball. LW isn't a stupid man, you don't take a job to be the AD at a basketball only school with the 3rd highest basketball budget in the country and not care about that sport....it's an absurd comment.
I'm confused how this turned into a thread about Larry Williams. Nobody cares about him other than the fact that everybody seems pretty pleased he's gone.
Depends who they get to replace him with. I think a lot of people are glad he's gone for one reason. He went to Notre Dame. Just how people are. My point was how utterly silly it is to say an AD doesn't care about the flagship sport of the department he runs. Presidents can act like that because they often don't understand or care about athletics. Professors often act like this, out of spite, envy, or whatever. ADs...no. Just a ridiculous assumption and from I heard from at least one major AD, nothing could be further from the truth.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
Depends who they get to replace him with. I think a lot of people are glad he's gone for one reason. He went to Notre Dame. Just how people are. My point was how utterly silly it is to say an AD doesn't care about the flagship sport of the department he runs. Presidents can act like that because they often don't understand or care about athletics. Professors often act like this, out of spite, envy, or whatever. ADs...no. Just a ridiculous assumption and from I heard from at least one major AD, nothing could be further from the truth.
Jams
The fact that he went to Notre Dame is irrelevant. I really doubt anyone held that against him as it is immaterial. LW was a terrible leader and subpar AD. His stewardship of the Marquette Athletic Program was characterized by chaos, turmoil, and instability. Good riddance.
He came in thinking there was a systemic problem, when it was an episodic problem. The mistakes had been acknowledged, the sacrificial lamb had been offered up, changes to protocols had already been implemented. So he tried to 'fix' something that wasn't broke. He was also attached to Pilarz, and when it became apparent that the good Jesuit was not the long term answer, Larry's departure was inevitable. Finally, he messed with happy.
Quote from: keefe on March 20, 2014, 08:12:13 PM
Jams
The fact that he went to Notre Dame is irrelevant. I really doubt anyone held that against him as it is immaterial. LW was a terrible leader and subpar AD. His stewardship of the Marquette Athletic Program was characterized by chaos, turmoil, and instability. Good riddance.
Please provide all the first-hand, day-to-day work you did in the MU athletic office to back up this claim. My guess is you have none.
Quote from: Norm on March 20, 2014, 08:27:00 PM
Please provide all the first-hand, day-to-day work you did in the MU athletic office to back up this claim. My guess is you have none.
Your logic is off. I have no more first-hand experience in the MU Athletic Office than you do. But I have heard from first hand sources and read reports from reputable journalists that LW created problems for employees, alumni, and boosters. His tenure was characterized by chaos, instability, and turmoil.
Evidence? Buzz Williams was profoundly unhappy and considered leaving specifically because of LW and Scott Pilarz. LW couldn't pronounce the names of substantial donors. That is just stupid. And because of Buzz' dissatisfaction and LW's inability to connect with boosters donations are off. Significantly.
If you do not believe that this suggests chaos, instability, and turmoil I welcome your assessment of LW's tenure. And please stop being obtuse when replying.
Quote from: keefe on March 20, 2014, 09:10:51 PM
Your logic is off. I have no more first-hand experience in the MU Athletic Office than you do. But I have heard from first hand sources and read reports from reputable journalists that LW created problems for employees, alumni, and boosters. His tenure was characterized by chaos, instability, and turmoil.
Evidence? Buzz Williams was profoundly unhappy and considered leaving specifically because of LW and Scott Pilarz. LW couldn't pronounce the names of substantial donors. That is just stupid. And because of Buzz' dissatisfaction and LW's inability to connect with boosters donations are off. Significantly.
If you do not believe that this suggests chaos, instability, and turmoil I welcome your assessment of LW's tenure. And please stop being obtuse when replying.
I like a lot of your posts, but sometimes you can be a condescending prick. Thank you for inferring that I am simple minded because I asked for your first-hand knowledge of claims slamming the former AD's performance. I'll try not to be so obtuse in the future.
Under Williams, the entire MU sports program performed pretty well - MU Elite Eight in men's basketball, great success in volleyball and men's and women's soccer, starting up the men's and women's lacrosse program. He also navigated MU's entry into the newest version of the Big East, and seemed to play a lrage role according to published reports. That to me just does not seem like a athletic department in chaos, instability and turmoil. You seem to have a personal vendetta against Williams so i asked what first-hand knowledge you had about the situation. You admitted you didn't have any and rely on others' stories and printed reports. Fair enough, but I just wanted to know where you got your opinion from.
Quote from: keefe on March 20, 2014, 08:12:13 PM
Jams
The fact that he went to Notre Dame is irrelevant. I really doubt anyone held that against him as it is immaterial. LW was a terrible leader and subpar AD. His stewardship of the Marquette Athletic Program was characterized by chaos, turmoil, and instability. Good riddance.
I said people here hold it against them....and some do. I get it. Look, if a UCLA grad became the AD at USC, the Trojan faithful would freak. If a Bama grad headed up the Auburn athletic department, they would freak.
My comments were merely about the claim he did not care about basketball, which is ludicrous.
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
He came in thinking there was a systemic problem, when it was an episodic problem. The mistakes had been acknowledged, the sacrificial lamb had been offered up, changes to protocols had already been implemented. So he tried to 'fix' something that wasn't broke. He was also attached to Pilarz, and when it became apparent that the good Jesuit was not the long term answer, Larry's departure was inevitable. Finally, he messed with happy.
Can't have a boss mess with
Happy a subordinate....terrible idea. ;) Basically we want a rubber stamp in there....through the course of college athletics that has ended badly so many times. It can take a while to manifest itself, but can end badly.
Totally understand the Pilarz part. Whomever Zach is on the IWB radio blog....he needs to maybe walk back the silliness. You don't take a job as an AD at Marquette and not care about basketball. Just as you don't take the USC job and not care about football, or the Minnesota job and not care about hockey, so on and so forth.
Quote from: Norm on March 20, 2014, 10:47:53 PM
I like a lot of your posts, but sometimes you can be a condescending prick. Thank you for inferring that I am simple minded because I asked for your first-hand knowledge of claims slamming the former AD's performance. I'll try not to be so obtuse in the future.
Under Williams, the entire MU sports program performed pretty well - MU Elite Eight in men's basketball, great success in volleyball and men's and women's soccer, starting up the men's and women's lacrosse program. He also navigated MU's entry into the newest version of the Big East, and seemed to play a lrage role according to published reports. That to me just does not seem like a athletic department in chaos, instability and turmoil. You seem to have a personal vendetta against Williams so i asked what first-hand knowledge you had about the situation. You admitted you didn't have any and rely on others' stories and printed reports. Fair enough, but I just wanted to know where you got your opinion from.
I agree that other aspects of the program did well while he was in charge but I would not say these accomplishments were because of LW. At the end of the day, all that really matters strategically is Men's Basketball. Without success in that vertical every other sport will suffer. And LW almost caused significant harm to Men's Basketball.
I do not know the guy so I cannot have a vendetta. Nor do I have personal first-hand observation of his management. But I have it on extremely good authority from numerous impeccable sources that he caused harm to the Marquette Athletic Program because he exercised poor judgment and leadership. And the inside story is that his organization was characterized by chaos, turmoil, and instability. How else would one describe LW and BW not ever communicating for months at a time? How else could one explain major donors closing their wallets as long as LW was still employed by MU as the AD?
My first WTF moment with LW was reading his comments in JSOnline after the WV win. And I asked several people what they knew and the story was not flattering in any way for LW. At the end of the day LW mishandled his most important employee and alienated his most critical constituency - MU's financial supporters. The fact he accomplished all of this in less than a year is impressive. I am glad he is gone because he was a disaster.
Quote from: keefe on March 20, 2014, 11:06:48 PM
I agree that other aspects of the program did well while he was in charge but I would not say these accomplishments were because of LW. At the end of the day, all that really matters strategically is Men's Basketball. Without success in that vertical every other sport will suffer. And LW almost caused significant harm to Men's Basketball.
I do not know the guy so I cannot have a vendetta. Nor do I have personal first-hand observation of his management. But I have it on extremely good authority from numerous impeccable sources that he caused harm to the Marquette Athletic Program because he exercised poor judgment and leadership. And the inside story is that his organization was characterized by chaos, turmoil, and instability. How else would one describe LW and BW not ever communicating for months at a time? How else could one explain major donors closing their wallets as long as LW was still employed by MU as the AD?
My first WTF moment with LW was reading his comments in JSOnline after the WV win. And I asked several people what they knew and the story was not flattering in any way for LW. At the end of the day LW mishandled his most important employee and alienated his most critical constituency - MU's financial supporters. The fact he accomplished all of this in less than a year is impressive. I am glad he is gone because he was a disaster.
I'll just say this. I'm friends with a few folks in the department, including coaches and administrators. The viewpoint of chaos, turmoil, and instability is not shared as a viewpoint. Some folks were not happy an outsider came into the department and there are some forces that felt that others should have been the man in charge. I don't need to tell you the politics that can result as I'm sure you have seen it in your travels and career journey. Disaster, harm, etc. None of that ever even close to stated by the folks I know, but I suspect depending on where one comes down on the entire decision of who should have been named AD in the first place may be a guiding principle for those remarks.
I'll leave it at that.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2014, 10:50:52 PM
I said people here hold it against them....and some do. I get it. Look, if a UCLA grad became the AD at USC, the Trojan faithful would freak. If a Bama grad headed up the Auburn athletic department, they would freak.
My comments were merely about the claim he did not care about basketball, which is ludicrous.
I'm not sure I would compare MU-ND with those other, more storied, rivalries. And Bo Schembechler was not only a Woody Hayes disciple but had spent years at Ohio as an Assistant Coach!
But I agree that LW did not not care about basketball. But he sure did not know how to manage his most important direct report. At the end of the day, that buck stops on the boss' desk. The old adage of throwing out the baby with the bath water almost happened at Marquette. Thank God saner heads prevailed.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2014, 11:12:38 PM
I'll just say this. I'm friends with a few folks in the department, including coaches and administrators. The viewpoint of chaos, turmoil, and instability is not shared as a viewpoint. Some folks were not happy an outsider came into the department and there are some forces that felt that others should have been the man in charge. I don't need to tell you the politics that can result as I'm sure you have seen it in your travels and career journey. Disaster, harm, etc. None of that ever even close to stated by the folks I know, but I suspect depending on where one comes down on the entire decision of who should have been named AD in the first place may be a guiding principle for those remarks.
I'll leave it at that.
I know about the slighted insider but that has nothing to do with how LW actually managed the department. Broeker being passed over was not a factor with Buzz, pissed off boosters, or MU staff who were insulted by LW.
Quote from: keefe on March 20, 2014, 11:19:33 PM
I know about the slighted insider but that has nothing to do with how LW actually managed the department. Broeker being passed over was not a factor with Buzz, pissed off boosters, or MU staff who were insulted by LW.
Chicos didn't like Cottingham and didn't like the Buzz hire. He's been a big LW backer in his battles with Buzz. Also a pretty solid Pilarz apologist. He's not interested in inside information that makes those guys look bad.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 20, 2014, 03:23:56 PM
I don't trust people that only go by initials
Yeah, don't like the White Boy thing either, he should go by irritated traditional.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2014, 06:02:47 PM
Fair point. Would you call Cottingham a passionate guy? I wouldn't.
I just find the notion that the AD didn't care about basketball so absurd to be laughable. Now, the president, that's a different story. As I mentioned here a few weeks ago when I talked to Dan Guerrero, he knows Larry. Some of this conversation about LW has become more myth than reality, at least as it pertains to LW and his appreciation for basketball. Sure, he had some differing views on the who and the what, that's not out of the ordinary. What kind of kids, how you implement discipline, so on and so forth. But to suggest he did not care for basketball is just wrong. I suspect what is happening here is that a few people didn't like his (or Pilarz') view of how things should be, especially in light of some of the major public issues at the time, but that doesn't mean he didn't care for basketball. LW isn't a stupid man, you don't take a job to be the AD at a basketball only school with the 3rd highest basketball budget in the country and not care about that sport....it's an absurd comment.
Well put.
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
He came in thinking there was a systemic problem, when it was an episodic problem. The mistakes had been acknowledged, the sacrificial lamb had been offered up, changes to protocols had already been implemented. So he tried to 'fix' something that wasn't broke. He was also attached to Pilarz, and when it became apparent that the good Jesuit was not the long term answer, Larry's departure was inevitable. Finally, he messed with happy.
Also very well put. When he used the term "the Notre Dame way" he set himself up for failure.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 20, 2014, 11:30:55 PM
Chicos didn't like Cottingham and didn't like the Buzz hire. He's been a big LW backer in his battles with Buzz. Also a pretty solid Pilarz apologist. He's not interested in inside information that makes those guys look bad.
I actually liked Steve very much, got to work with him for several years. Don't think he should have been the AD, but that's a different story. Looks like just a few years later, he wasn't the AD. Good man, smart guy. Not surprised by the end result.
Don't mind the Buzz hire, could have gotten him a week or two later...easily. What could have come of that week or two...we'll never know. Good thing is Buzz will be here as long as we will have him so these funny threads popping up are a waste of time.
What else would you like to state about how I felt and be totally wrong about?
By the way, did Xavier, Providence and St. John's finish tied for 3rd or did they finish tied for 3rd and 4th and 5th....I'm so confused. ::)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 21, 2014, 12:26:58 AM
I actually liked Steve very much, got to work with him for several years. Don't think he should have been the AD, but that's a different story. Looks like just a few years later, he wasn't the AD. Good man, smart guy. Not surprised by the end result.
Don't mind the Buzz hire, could have gotten him a week or two later...easily. What could have come of that week or two...we'll never know. Good thing is Buzz will be here as long as we will have him so these funny threads popping up are a waste of time.
What else would you like to state about how I felt and be totally wrong about?
By the way, did Xavier, Providence and St. John's finish tied for 3rd or did they finish tied for 3rd and 4th and 5th....I'm so confused. ::)
For a guy who liked Steve so much you sure did a lot of celebrating and patting yourself on the back about how smart you were saying he wouldn't last 5 years when he was hired. Guess you knew about the sexual assault allegations that would be leveled against players 4 years before they happened. LOL
Glad you don't deny being a big fan of LW and and an apologist for both him and Pilarz. Must have been hard for you when their reign of terror and failure was ended so abruptly after only a couple of years.
And yes, Xavier, Providence and St. John's did tie for 3rd, 4th and 5th place. We finished one game and one place behind them. In 6th.
Quote from: swoopem on March 20, 2014, 01:29:22 PM
Tower, who is Zach and is he close to the program like IWB?
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121009031818/savedbythebell/images/f/f1/Zack_Morris_Main.jpg)
Are there a lot of employees in the athletic department who were there when Chicos was there some 15-20 years ago? Employees who don't know he's a prolific poster on message boards?
I doubt it.
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2014, 12:44:17 PM
IWB- Buzz has said that he will be at MU as long as they want him. He didn't feel wanted by Larry and Pilarz. S-16, S-16, E-8 without a raise from Larry and Pilarz. It is about respect. If the new admin makes Buzz feel wanted, he isn't going anywhere.
Wait, IWB said that? That Buzz wasn't given a raise after each/any of those S16/E8s?
Maybe I'm getting old, but that's not what I remember. Anyone?
Doesn't he have one of those rollover deals, or is that just in bed?
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 21, 2014, 08:15:37 AM
Wait, IWB said that? That Buzz wasn't given a raise after each/any of those S16/E8s?
Maybe I'm getting old, but that's not what I remember. Anyone?
I thought I remembered his contract having an automatic escalation?
Quote from: mu03eng on March 21, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
I thought I remembered his contract having an automatic escalation?
I think its a rollover contract. Not so sure about any escalation.
I think it is a rollover with a 'cry wolf - get a raise' clause
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/88881442.html?ipad=y
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/118960749.html?ipad=y
http://www.twincities.com/ci_22914311/buzz-williams-why-leave-marquette-gophers
http://zagsblog.com/marquette/williams-agrees-to-7-year-extension-at-marquette/
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 21, 2014, 08:15:37 AM
Wait, IWB said that? That Buzz wasn't given a raise after each/any of those S16/E8s?
Maybe I'm getting old, but that's not what I remember. Anyone?
I, too, thought there was a raise in at least one of those campaigns if not two of them.
Also, it was funny to read the recap where it said Buzz wasn't about the money, only about respect. And then the next recap is Buzz being dismayed by not getting a raise.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 21, 2014, 09:14:18 AM
I, too, thought there was a raise in at least one of those campaigns if not two of them.
Also, it was funny to read the recap where it said Buzz wasn't about the money, only about respect. And then the next recap is Buzz being dismayed by not getting a raise.
Nuance
;)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2014, 10:56:49 PM
Can't have a boss mess with Happy a subordinate....terrible idea. ;) Basically we want a rubber stamp in there....through the course of college athletics that has ended badly so many times. It can take a while to manifest itself, but can end badly.
Totally understand the Pilarz part. Whomever Zach is on the IWB radio blog....he needs to maybe walk back the silliness. You don't take a job as an AD at Marquette and not care about basketball. Just as you don't take the USC job and not care about football, or the Minnesota job and not care about hockey, so on and so forth.
I believe LW cared about the program. I think you are missing the point. It is not about how much he loved hoops, it's the way he tried to run things. At Marquette, the Basketball Coach will always be front and center. LW seemed to have some issues with that and it cost him. Live and learn. MU made the right move to send LW and Fr. Pilarz away. Bob Wild and Bill Cords are getting the ship back in the right direction, both from an overall university standpoint and the basketball program.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 21, 2014, 10:44:11 AM
I believe LW cared about the program. I think you are missing the point. It is not about how much he loved hoops, it's the way he tried to run things. At Marquette, the Basketball Coach will always be front and center. LW seemed to have some issues with that and it cost him. Live and learn. MU made the right move to send LW and Fr. Pilarz away. Bob Wild and Bill Cords are getting the ship back in the right direction, both from an overall university standpoint and the basketball program.
If we were to do a quick test:
Name the head basketball coach at Duke
Name the AD at Duke
Name the head basketball coach at Syracuse
Name the AD at Syracuse
Name the head basketball coach at Michigan State
Name the AD at Michigan State
Name the head basketball coach at Arizona
Name the AD at Arizona
Larry Williams might not be suited to be the AD at a school with major programs in basketball or football where coaches are the luminaries and AD's the off-screen talent. People can picture Robert DeNiro but who can identify Sidney Lumet on the street?
Ultimately, the tin foilers were proven correct in their level of distrust of the previous administration regarding basketball competence.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 20, 2014, 11:30:55 PM
He's been a big LW backer in his battles with Buzz. Also a pretty solid Pilarz apologist.
Some guys drink Schlitz. Others prefer the textured character of a hand forged Islay single malt.
Quote from: keefe on March 21, 2014, 11:53:28 AM
Some guys drink Schlitz. Others prefer the textured character of a hand forged Islay single malt.
Can't I like both?
When I'm back home i drink this sweet josie brown ale
http://www.loneriderbeer.com/beers/sweet-josie/
Quote from: melissasmooth on March 21, 2014, 12:00:47 PM
When I'm back home i drink this sweet josie brown ale
http://www.loneriderbeer.com/beers/sweet-josie/
As strong-willed as she is seductive, melissasmooth knows how to draw you in then bring you to your knees.
Quote from: keefe on March 21, 2014, 12:14:54 PM
As strong-willed as she is seductive, melissasmooth knows how to draw you in then bring you to your knees.
:)
Half a deck of Luckies and a six-pack of Schlitz...Back in the day
Quote from: elephantraker on March 21, 2014, 12:22:37 PM
Half a deck of Luckies and a six-pack of Schlitz...Back in the day
Found an old photo of you and your crew
(http://drinkboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/schlitz-boys-1978.jpg)