@mikebroeker 4m We will not be participating in any other events.
what a joke.
Well, it puts the pain to an end. Baseball season now. Welp.
The tone of this reads "Tomorrow is not going to be a pleasant day".
Good buzz should go into hiding for awhile. Maybe he will leak to his media buddies that he is unhappy
I'm more pissed off about this than everything else that's happened this season.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 16, 2014, 08:06:52 PM
I'm more pissed off about this than everything else that's happened this season.
You really wanted to watch this team play some more?
Quote from: melissasmooth on March 16, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
Good buzz should go into hiding for awhile. Maybe he will leak to his media buddies that he is unhappy
Tina, you're such a cow.
Well, perhaps one positive is that the decision not to play at least it spares us the possibility of embarrassment of losing in the first round of the CBI.
But, I agree. I'd rather play in the CBI than not.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 16, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
You really wanted to watch this team play some more?
Yes. We have young guys that need experience. I like watching Marquette basketball even if they suck.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 16, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
You really wanted to watch this team play some more?
You make a good point. Maybe they did us a favor. Moving on.
Well then......
Thank you seniors, it was well, a strange year.
Devante for his coming from a low ranked recruit to two time BE Sixth Man of the Year
Jake for being a walk-on, on a major Div I program
Chris for what you been through in your personal life with injuries and eye deficiencies.
Jamil, well for coming back home. No one will forget the Davidson game last year.
and Buzz, for your work on Buzz's Bunch. Hope you and the staff works certain things out over the summer.
My only regret is not being able to watch Gardner in a Marquette uni one more time.
Quote from: melissasmooth on March 16, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
Good buzz should go into hiding for awhile.
Why? Because he only went to the NCAAs his first five years, including a S16-S16-E8 run?
Get a grip. It's effin basketball, not life.
Quote from: MU82 on March 16, 2014, 08:12:25 PM
a grip. It's effin basketball, not life.
And you call yourself a fan!
I F UCKING HATED this team
It's mercifully over
I hope the team gets to go watch the tournament at the BC and to just fully grasp how pathetic that it is
Davante' Gardner @iGetBuckets_54 9m "@AFrisinger24: Well, I'm going to miss seeing Jamil, @iGetBuckets_54 @Tule42 and @JakeThomasTwo3 ball out at Marquette #sadtweet #mubb"
Hopefully Broeker will use the free time to start on the schedule for next year, so he doesn't have to use the lame excuse about limited dates being available and bad luck to explain why we played five 300+ RPI teams when nobody else in our conference except Butler had more than one.
Mike Broeker @mikebroeker 16m To our seniors - @Tule42 @_jamilwilson @iGetBuckets_54 @JakeThomasTwo3 - it has been a pleasure to be around you each day. #excellence
Quote from: Ari Gold on March 16, 2014, 08:13:11 PM
I F UCKING HATED this team
It's mercifully over
That's a bit stronger than I would put it, but I generally agree. I will not miss the guys that are leaving - Gardner included. A fine player to be sure, but for whatever reason I found these guys tough to root for.
Jake Thomas @JakeThomasTwo3 7m Well aint that some sh..
Somehow this seems like a fitting conclusion to a very strange season.
Quote from: chapman on March 16, 2014, 08:15:55 PM
Hopefully Broeker will use the free time to start on the schedule for next year, so he doesn't have to use the lame excuse about limited dates being available and bad luck to explain why we played five 300+ RPI teams when nobody else in our conference except Butler had more than one.
+100.
Quote from: chapman on March 16, 2014, 08:15:55 PM
Hopefully Broeker will use the free time to start on the schedule for next year, so he doesn't have to use the lame excuse about limited dates being available and bad luck to explain why we played five 300+ RPI teams when nobody else in our conference except Butler had more than one.
Yep, and maybe re-think not using our pre-season games on closed door scrimmages, I am sure they have their place, but actual game time does too. I enjoy watching MU throwing a local DIII team a bone and working out some kinks as well.
I'm so glad to see Jake, Chris, and Jamil go.
Relieved.
The only one I will truly miss is Davante.
There. Off my chest.
Let the 2014-15 season and growing pains begin!!!
Quote from: chapman on March 16, 2014, 08:15:55 PM
Hopefully Broeker will use the free time to start on the schedule for next year, so he doesn't have to use the lame excuse about limited dates being available and bad luck to explain why we played five 300+ RPI teams when nobody else in our conference except Butler had more than one.
On the flip side, if we had an OOC schedule like, say, Gtown, we would have had more losses.
I'm cool with playing the softest cupcakes around, but only if we use that time to get our guys (eg Dawson) built up for conference time and the BE tourney.
All they had to do was win a few of the following:
Ohio State
Arizona State
San Diego State
Wisconsin
New Mexico
Didn't do it. Lost them all....
I would be right when I said after the GT win, that may be the last time we see MU win until November of 2014.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 16, 2014, 08:20:13 PM
Jake Thomas @JakeThomasTwo3 7m Well aint that some sh..
This tweet seems to be kind of telling about this team's attitude. We were 17-15 in a disappointing conference and our players thought the NIT was a lock. If that's the case, they are even more delusional than MU Scoop posters. Sadly, the light bulb still does not seem to have clicked on. Even worse, Jake was one of our headier players this season.
Frees up Buzz for some studio work for CBS/Turner during March.
Marquette had an RPI of 90. Highest at-large RPI in NIT was West Virginia at 87
Quote from: MU7703 on March 16, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
our players thought the NIT was a lock.
Holy Sh1t! Russia wasn't this cold back in July...
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2009/9/4/1252079739928/Three-German-soldiers-cov-001.jpg)
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 16, 2014, 08:26:27 PM
Yep, and maybe re-think not using our pre-season games on closed door scrimmages, I am sure they have their place, but actual game time does too. I enjoy watching MU throwing a local DIII team a bone and working out some kinks as well.
Bad.
Don't think I would like to be at home with Buzz tonight. >:(
Someone said he should discuss the season with his mentors. Good idea. Think he also needs to talk to next year's players, the future, his commitment to success, etc.
He needs to get away for a few weeks and decompress. Then start the road back slowly with input from others, reflection, objectivity ...
We are rooting for him! :)
Quote from: PTM on March 16, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
Bad.
Care to elaborate?
Creighton, Nova, Xavier, Providence all had exhibition games on the schedule.
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 16, 2014, 08:53:14 PM
Care to elaborate?
Creighton, Nova, Xavier, Providence all had exhibition games on the schedule.
Scrimmaging against a real opponent is much more valuable than playing fucking Whitewater.
Quote from: PTM on March 16, 2014, 08:55:12 PM
Scrimmaging against a real opponent is much more valuable than playing unnatural carnal knowledgeing Whitewater.
You are welcome to your opinion. I am welcome to mine.
St. John's played 2 exh. games
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 16, 2014, 08:47:19 PM
Marquette had an RPI of 90. Highest at-large RPI in NIT was West Virginia at 87
They could have been really creative and shipped us to WVU. Now that would have been interesting.
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 16, 2014, 08:57:15 PM
You are welcome to your opinion. St. John's played 2 exh. games
It's not an opinion. Every team would do it, but some don't want to sacrifice the money.
Quote from: chapman on March 16, 2014, 08:15:55 PM
Hopefully Broeker will use the free time to start on the schedule for next year, so he doesn't have to use the lame excuse about limited dates being available and bad luck to explain why we played five 300+ RPI teams when nobody else in our conference except Butler had more than one.
Amen to that brother
Quote from: PTM on March 16, 2014, 08:59:08 PM
It's not an opinion. Every team would do it, but some don't want to sacrifice the money.
Then you obviously are in touch with people who make those decisions at MU. Nice to have such inside information. And if you don't then yes it is just your opinion.
Seems to work for many successful teams though. Florida, Wisconsin, Duke, UConn
Quote from: Ari Gold on March 16, 2014, 08:13:11 PM
I F UCKING HATED this team
It's mercifully over
I hope the team gets to go watch the tournament at the BC and to just fully grasp how pathetic that it is
And yet you endured without feeling the uncontrollable urge to come on MUScoop and constantly whine, and that is to be commended. Many others fell short.
Quote from: keefe on March 16, 2014, 08:11:31 PM
My only regret is not being able to watch Gardner in a Marquette uni one more time.
I'll second that.
Quote from: chapman on March 16, 2014, 08:57:37 PM
They could have been really creative and shipped us to WVU. Now that would have been interesting.
That's the fate they chose for Georgetown.
edit: maybe it's at gtown, I didn't look it up, and don't really care enough other than to know they're playing.
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 16, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
Then you obviously are in touch with people who make those decisions at MU. Nice to have such inside information. And if you don't then yes it is just your opinion.
Seems to work for many successful teams though. Florida, Wisconsin, Duke, UConn
No inside information needed. It was widely publicized when the scrimmages were allowed that they were widely popular for coaches, but the ADs were pulling back due to season ticket holders.
If you think there's value to playing Strich then you do fit in with the rest of the new idiots around here.
Quote from: Ari Gold on March 16, 2014, 08:13:11 PM
I F UCKING HATED this team
It's mercifully over
I hope the team gets to go watch the tournament at the BC and to just fully grasp how pathetic that it is
Might be a little harsh, but I can understand where you're coming from. I just never had the emotional attachment to this team like the past few years' teams. They were just never much fun to watch. I guess bad PG play will do that...
I can't help but think about Buzz's last post game presser this year. At the time, I thought he was inadvertently taking shots at the NIT. So, I guess Buzz still won't know how teams receive an invite to that tournament.
Quote from: wheresthecake? on March 16, 2014, 09:21:04 PM
Might be a little harsh, but I can understand where you're coming from. I just never had the emotional attachment to this team like the past few years' teams. They were just never much fun to watch. I guess bad PG play will do that...
Bad PG play, bad SG play, bad SF play, bad PF play, bad C play...bad team.
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 16, 2014, 08:57:15 PM
You are welcome to your opinion. I am welcome to mine.
St. John's played 2 exh. games
I'm with PTN on this. Do you know how St. Johns started the season?
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 16, 2014, 08:57:15 PM
You are welcome to your opinion. I am welcome to mine.
St. John's played 2 exh. games
Virginia had two exhibitions I believe
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2014, 09:25:26 PM
Virginia had two exhibitions I believe
I'm not sure what your point is. Do you mean to argue that exhibitions are better reparation than controlled scrimmages?
Maybe we shoulda done better in them scrimmages, aina?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2014, 09:25:26 PM
Virginia had two exhibitions I believe
The Seattle Art Museum had an exhibition of Gauguin in Polynesia. Enchanting.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 16, 2014, 09:31:08 PM
I'm not sure what your point is. Do you mean to argue that exhibitions are better reparation than controlled scrimmages?
No point, just throwing it out there...exhibitions may work for some, maybe works for others., may not for others. Personally, I think the idea of exhibitions truly contributing to the success and failure of the team or even having a meaningful impact is remote at best.
Flawed team is a flawed team. Talent sitting on the bench, not ready or not willing to be put in....whichever it was, not sure an exhibition change would do anything.
A suck end to a suck year. 208 days to Madness!
Even as the resident optimist, I am ready to put a bullet in this letdown of a season.
I'm looking forward to discussing 2014-2015
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2014, 09:25:26 PM
Virginia had two exhibitions I believe
Keep picking cherries, and eventually you're going to choke on a pit.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2014, 08:24:09 PM
+100.
3-12 vs. tourney teams. The 300+ teams didn't mean anything. Giving props to that makes you almost as clueless as the original post.
This season was a long slow painful trip, death by papercuts........come back Humbled and Hungry, Warrior up for 2014-2015
Quote from: muwarrior97 on March 16, 2014, 10:58:43 PM
This season was a long slow painful trip, death by papercuts........come back Humbled and Hungry, Warrior up for 2014-2015
Completely agree.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 16, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
Bad PG play, bad SG play, bad SF play, bad PF play, bad C play...bad team.
Yet returned all but 3 guys from a Big East (not watered down version) Championship and Elite 8 team...to not making the NIT?? This is worse than the fall off after the 2003 Final Four...
Never realized Trent Lockett was so valuable to last year's team...because we know Mayo did virtually nothing for the Elite 8 team having sat out first half of year and being in doghouse....and this year Mayo put up better numbers than Vander in every category...other than minutes played....so...damn we miss Trent Lockett...
Quote from: Ners on March 16, 2014, 11:13:20 PM
Yet returned all but 3 guys from a Big East (not watered down version) Championship and Elite 8 team...to not making the NIT?? This is worse than the fall off after the 2003 Final Four...
Never realized Trent Lockett was so valuable to last year's team...because we know Mayo did virtually nothing for the Elite 8 team having sat out first half of year and being in doghouse....and this year Mayo put up better numbers than Vander in every category...other than minutes played....so...damn we miss Trent Lockett...
And Vander...
And especially Junior...
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2014, 09:25:26 PM
Virginia had two exhibitions I believe
Scrimmages actually. Georgetown and us.
Quote from: muwarrior97 on March 16, 2014, 10:58:43 PM
This season was a long slow painful trip, death by papercuts........come back Humbled and Hungry, Warrior up for 2014-2015
Yep. This is the best description I've seen for this season.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on March 16, 2014, 10:52:48 PM
3-12 vs. tourney teams. The 300+ teams didn't mean anything. Giving props to that makes you almost as clueless as the original post.
If MU had scheduled better theyd be in the NIT. If they had scheduled better, and won two more games, they'd be in the NCAA. Scheduling was not the reason we lost 14 games, but it put MUs back against the wall.
Quote from: PTM on March 16, 2014, 08:59:08 PM
It's not an opinion. Every team would do it, but some don't want to sacrifice the money.
I agree coaches would rather do scrimmages, but most don't because the lost revenue from the exhibition games. However, we also hear that money is the reason we need a certain number of home games and have to schedule crappy 300+ RPI buy games. Having the exhibitions and using the money to schedule better teams at the bottom might provide a greater benefit to the program than the scrimmages. Maybe even doing more 2-1 or 3-1 deals.
Quote from: chapman on March 17, 2014, 07:44:11 AM
Scrimmages actually. Georgetown and us.
Yes, that's actually what I meant...not games, but scrimmages. When I saw their schedule last night, no exhibitions. Poor execution on my part.
Quote from: Litehouse on March 17, 2014, 08:53:02 AM
I agree coaches would rather do scrimmages, but most don't because the lost revenue from the exhibition games. However, we also hear that money is the reason we need a certain number of home games and have to schedule crappy 300+ RPI buy games. Having the exhibitions and using the money to schedule better teams at the bottom might provide a greater benefit to the program than the scrimmages. Maybe even doing more 2-1 or 3-1 deals.
Completely agree with the logic, just not the input we often get of needing the buy games we schedule for the money. Our television deal pays more than twice the old one, we are seeing payout from more tournament shares than ever, and attendance was actually up this year. So pretending we're poor is a lame excuse for the bad buy games, along with the other excuses: calendar not aligning, bad luck, and the if we are in the tournament running that the NCAA should treat us differently from others and look at our challenging games and not the overall SOS/RPI number that was dragged down by terrible buy games. Didn't matter one lick this year (actually in terms of saving money, probably was for the better), but another thing that was poop in a season covered in it.
Quote from: Litehouse on March 17, 2014, 08:53:02 AM
I agree coaches would rather do scrimmages, but most don't because the lost revenue from the exhibition games. However, we also hear that money is the reason we need a certain number of home games and have to schedule crappy 300+ RPI buy games. Having the exhibitions and using the money to schedule better teams at the bottom might provide a greater benefit to the program than the scrimmages. Maybe even doing more 2-1 or 3-1 deals.
This is good analysis.
Looking past all the frustrations, disappointments, and the general down season, I think not playing in any post-season tournaments is, by far, the biggest let down.
Having said that, I truly feel like we did not deserve to play in any tournament. It just wasn't a good team.