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Title: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 13, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
They only take 32 and about 10 are filled already.  We have lost 4 in a row?
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 11:08:26 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 13, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
They only take 32 and about 10 are filled already.  We have lost 4 in a row?

I'd say 90% chance we make it.  Maybe 95%
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: 🏀 on March 13, 2014, 11:08:45 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: MUeng on March 13, 2014, 11:08:54 PM
honestly i don't think we get an invite, nor should we.  oh well, anyone else excited for Ahmed Hill?!
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 13, 2014, 11:11:42 PM
Quote from: MUeng on March 13, 2014, 11:08:54 PM
honestly i don't think we get an invite, nor should we.  oh well, anyone else excited for Ahmed Hill?!
I'm excited for Mayo du Wilson and burton.
Actually really excited for next year
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: bilsu on March 13, 2014, 11:12:24 PM
I think it is questionable, but not because we lost four in a row. You have to figure they will take St. John's and Georgetown. Seton Hall is now eligible for NIT bid and if they beat Providence and lose in championship game, I would think they get an NIT bid. I am assuming that both Xavier and Providence get NCAA bids. It happens, but 4 NIT bids for a conference is a lot.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: real chili 83 on March 13, 2014, 11:12:49 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 13, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
They only take 32 and about 10 are filled already.  We have lost 4 in a row?

Cheese and crackers, Nate.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:12:54 PM
ONLY because of our name - we didn't earn it.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: MUeng on March 13, 2014, 11:13:23 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 13, 2014, 11:11:42 PM
I'm excited for Mayo du Wilson and burton.
Actually really excited for next year
those 3 together could be nasty.  no idea who the other 2 will be but...
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: warriorstrack on March 13, 2014, 11:14:09 PM
I will be on pins and needles for NIT, but any post-season tourney will be good
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 13, 2014, 11:16:06 PM
I'm a little nervous. Lots of regular season champs are failing to win the auto-bid. Still think we make it though.

Burton's play tonight made me very excited for next season
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: jesmu84 on March 13, 2014, 11:16:56 PM
Quote from: MUeng on March 13, 2014, 11:13:23 PM
those 3 together could be nasty.  no idea who the other 2 will be but...

after december, Fischer
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: warriorstrack on March 13, 2014, 11:18:24 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 13, 2014, 11:16:56 PM
after december, Fischer
Can we get the UW game after 1st semester grades are posted?
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: bradley center bat on March 13, 2014, 11:22:57 PM
Yes. May of lost the home game.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: MU82 on March 13, 2014, 11:46:14 PM
If we get an NIT bid, I'm sure I'll watch because I'm a glutton for punishment.

If we don't get an NIT bid, I will be neither surprised nor upset.

I hope we turn down a CSI: Crime Scene Investigation bid.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 14, 2014, 05:54:13 AM
Is NIT selection also on Sunday?
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: downtown85 on March 14, 2014, 06:08:24 AM
Quote from: MUeng on March 13, 2014, 11:13:23 PM
those 3 together could be nasty.  no idea who the other 2 will be but...

Yes, Fischer after December, but I have hopes that JJJ will be one of the two.  4 guard offense baby! 
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 14, 2014, 06:12:16 AM
75-80% chance we get in.  name recognition and if they could pair us up against uw-green bay at the bc.  attendance attendance attendance.  then you've got the mu connection with wardle, and the public vs private school thing.  the nit selection committee tends to lean toward school participation/school spirit like the minor football bowls do.  they use that aspect to help wean out the "bubble teams"
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: badgerbldg on March 14, 2014, 06:31:08 AM
Two factors make me think we won't get in. First, the number of teams from the Big East that are ahead of us in the "bid line."  Second is that if the game is to be played at the Al, there won't be much of a payday for theNIT and we all know it's about the money.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: chapman on March 14, 2014, 08:04:19 AM
Not a given.  If we do I expect to be on the road.  Not going to be a top seed, and not offering enough dollars with a game at the Al.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: willie warrior on March 14, 2014, 08:06:48 AM
Other than a few fans on this board, and maybe the team, nobody really cares about the NIT. The Dance is the Dream.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 14, 2014, 08:15:39 AM
I would certainly watch.

They will obviously play a team much like us and it will make for exciting basketball.

To be honest, I probably will not watch much of the NCAA at all. 
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: The Equalizer on March 14, 2014, 08:38:51 AM
Just to correct one of the misconceptions that seems to be repeated in this thread: The NCAA now owns the NIT and no longer uses projected attendance or television ratings as factors. They aren't trying to create attractive matchups, pack houses, pick big or recognizable names, generate revenue--either from tickets or television, etc. 





Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 14, 2014, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on March 14, 2014, 08:38:51 AM
Just to correct one of the misconceptions that seems to be repeated in this thread: The NCAA now owns the NIT and no longer uses projected attendance or television ratings as factors. They aren't trying to create attractive matchups, pack houses, pick big or recognizable names, generate revenue--either from tickets or television, etc. 

ok, then what is their new tournament model?  is it to create the next level/tier/ratings for the ncaa?  serious question because i really haven't heard about this




Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: brandx on March 14, 2014, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on March 14, 2014, 08:38:51 AM
Just to correct one of the misconceptions that seems to be repeated in this thread: The NCAA now owns the NIT and no longer uses projected attendance or television ratings as factors. They aren't trying to create attractive matchups, pack houses, pick big or recognizable names, generate revenue--either from tickets or television, etc. 


Just as I always suspected - money is not important to the NCAA ;D
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: brandx on March 14, 2014, 09:00:10 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on March 14, 2014, 08:38:51 AM
Just to correct one of the misconceptions that seems to be repeated in this thread: The NCAA now owns the NIT and no longer uses projected attendance or television ratings as factors. They aren't trying to create attractive matchups, pack houses, pick big or recognizable names, generate revenue--either from tickets or television, etc. 



The NCAA has owned the NIT for the last 10 years or so. And since ESPN has a half a Billion dollar contract for the NIT games, it IS about making money. It's just that ESPN no longer gets to pick the teams and matchups.

The only criteria is that teams that won conference titles, but don't get selected to the NCAA (i.e. UW-GB) are in.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: Aughnanure on March 14, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
Quote from: downtown85 on March 14, 2014, 06:08:24 AM
Yes, Fischer after December, but I have hopes that JJJ will be one of the two.  4 guard offense baby! 

I do think we'll pull the 4 guard offense early, at least until Fischer gets back. Burton can bang down low and our guards are athletic enough to rebound. I'm hoping for the below lineups, but afraid we'll see Juan and De Wilson take up 2 of those spots.


Non Conference

Taylor
Burton
Mayo
JJJ/Ahmed Hill
Du Wilson

Conference
Fischer
Taylor
Burton
Mayo
Du Wilson
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: willie warrior on March 14, 2014, 09:26:26 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
I do think we'll pull the 4 guard offense early, at least until Fischer gets back. Burton can bang down low and our guards are athletic enough to rebound. I'm hoping for the below lineups, but afraid we'll see Juan and De Wilson take up 2 of those spots.


Non Conference

Taylor
Burton
Mayo
JJJ/Ahmed Hill
Du Wilson

Conference
Fischer
Taylor
Burton
Mayo
Du Wilson
You are forgetting De. Wilson who Buzz will start and play significant minutes. Book it.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: Aughnanure on March 14, 2014, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on March 14, 2014, 09:26:26 AM
You are forgetting De. Wilson who Buzz will start and play significant minutes. Book it.

Barring injury, I'll bet Duane Wilson starts or gets the majority of minutes by conference play.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: MaymonsPops on March 14, 2014, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2014, 09:30:40 AM
Barring injury, I'll bet Duane Wilson starts or gets the majority of minutes by conference play.

You're crazy, man.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: Sir Lawrence on March 14, 2014, 09:46:30 AM
IU submitted for a first round NIT home game.

Hope the Warriors can hang in Assembly Hall. 

Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: willie warrior on March 16, 2014, 10:22:43 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 14, 2014, 09:30:40 AM
Barring injury, I'll bet Duane Wilson starts or gets the majority of minutes by conference play.
Sorry, Augh. Much as I hope you are right, In Buzz we Trust will not sit the game changer. Blind Loyalty.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 16, 2014, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 14, 2014, 09:46:30 AM
IU submitted for a first round NIT home game.

Hope the Warriors can hang in Assembly Hall. 

Can you imagine this board IF the IU-MU matchup were to happen...and IF IU is the victor?

:o
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2014, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 16, 2014, 11:04:58 AM
Can you imagine this board IF the IU-MU matchup were to happen...and IF IU is the victor?

:o

Well, the reasonable will recognize the game for what it is: a glorified exhibition.

But yes, the board will turn into the overboard. Because that's what we do.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: Marquette Fan in WI on March 16, 2014, 11:18:44 AM
From my brief research, it appears there are four postseason tournaments.
NCAA: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_Championship
NIT: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Invitation_Tournament
CBI: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Basketball_Invitational
College Insider: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CollegeInsider.com_Postseason_Tournament

Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 16, 2014, 11:04:58 AM
Can you imagine this board IF the IU-MU matchup were to happen...and IF IU is the victor?

:o

Can you imagine if MU is the victor?  Either way, there will be people here that will have voodoo dolls out, sharp knives locked away for their own good and the dosage on the meds exceeding doctor recommendations. 

I'm not convinced IU makes the NIT, by the way.  I think MU is in no doubt.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 16, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
Can you imagine if MU is the victor?  Either way, there will be people here that will have voodoo dolls out, sharp knives locked away for their own good and the dosage on the meds exceeding doctor recommendations. 

I'm not convinced IU makes the NIT, by the way.  I think MU is in no doubt.
Who would you cheer for?
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: Tums Festival on March 16, 2014, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 14, 2014, 06:12:16 AM
75-80% chance we get in.  name recognition and if they could pair us up against uw-green bay at the bc.  attendance attendance attendance.  then you've got the mu connection with wardle, and the public vs private school thing.  the nit selection committee tends to lean toward school participation/school spirit like the minor football bowls do.  they use that aspect to help wean out the "bubble teams"

Bradley Center not available due to hosting NCAA tourney games, and the school has already announced if we host any NIT games they'll be at the Al.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2014, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 16, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
Who would you cheer for?

Marquette Marquette Marquette.  Stupid question
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2014, 12:05:48 PM
Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 16, 2014, 12:00:58 PM
Bradley Center not available due to hosting NCAA tourney games, and the school has already announced if we host any NIT games they'll be at the Al.

MECCA not available either, robotics competition or something.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: We R Final Four on March 16, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 16, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
Who would you cheer for?
Depends which message board is asking.
Title: Re: Do we even make NIT?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 16, 2014, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 16, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Depends which message board is asking.

Nope, MU all the way.

In the NCAAs, cheering for KU, the only one of the alma maters that figured it out to get to the big dance, though they have upset written all over them.  Some others interests like anyone taking on Wisconsin-madison will get staunch support.  SLU because of Rick.

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