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Title: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:40:41 PM
No point in it.

Buzz will play the same guys that got them in this mess, and that group (other than Burton) is no fun to watch.

Just end this nonsense now and move on to next season.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 10:41:03 PM
Wrong.  Besides, this game isn't over yet.  If we lose, you're still wrong.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Markusquette on March 13, 2014, 10:41:44 PM
Agreed^  Thanks for your valuable contributions WarriorGreg  ::)
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:44:01 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 10:41:03 PM
Wrong.  Besides, this game isn't over yet.  If we lose, you're still wrong.

It's over.

Xavier isn't even that good, but it's over.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Warrior of Law on March 13, 2014, 10:47:05 PM
Normally, there is benefit to playing an extended season to get more time for the younger players.  However, that won't happen. We'll just get more of the same old, same old, and likely lose to a team beneath us on the food chain.  Just end this mess, put in the rear view mirror and forget it as quickly as possible...
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:40:41 PM
No point in it.

Buzz will play the same guys that got them in this mess, and that group (other than Burton) is no fun to watch.

Just end this nonsense now and move on to next season.

You want to get your team more reps, tournament style play.  Good experience.  You accept and you play. 
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: LA on March 13, 2014, 10:52:07 PM
Don't be ridiculous.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: drewm88 on March 13, 2014, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 10:41:03 PM
If we lose, you're still wrong.

+1
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: The Sultan of Silly on March 13, 2014, 10:52:23 PM
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:40:41 PM
No point in it.

Buzz will play the same guys that got them in this mess, and that group (other than Burton) is no fun to watch.

Just end this nonsense now and move on to next season.
Agreed....we've been through enough pain already this season.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: ronald dragon on March 13, 2014, 10:52:30 PM
true fan
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Eldon on March 13, 2014, 10:52:44 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
You want to get your team more reps, tournament style play.  Good experience.  You accept and you play. 

+1000
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: 🏀 on March 13, 2014, 10:53:33 PM
Idiots everywhere.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: chapman on March 13, 2014, 10:54:15 PM
NIT - there's a bunch of teams in major conferences pretty much identical to us.  You absolutely play it.  CBI, not so much.  
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Newsdreams on March 13, 2014, 10:54:42 PM
OP is a Troll or lacking in intellect.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: jesmu84 on March 13, 2014, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: newsdrms on March 13, 2014, 10:54:42 PM
OP is a Troll or lacking in intellect.

well, since popping up a few days ago, he's made nothing but positive posts, so...
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 13, 2014, 10:56:04 PM
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:40:41 PM
No point in it.

Buzz will play the same guys that got them in this mess, and that group (other than Burton) is no fun to watch.

Just end this nonsense now and move on to next season.
I've never met a "Greg" that I've liked.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: hdog1017 on March 13, 2014, 10:56:12 PM
If MU plays in the NIT, Buzz shouldn't be allowed to play Anderson, Thomas, or any of the Wilsons.  Let the young kids play.  
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 13, 2014, 10:56:16 PM
Why the hell would we turn it down.  Are you nuts
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: dinger on March 13, 2014, 10:56:25 PM
Dumb post. I remember the NIT in 2004. Actually wasn't a half bad time. Nobody turns down the NIT anyways...not even Kentucky.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: real chili 83 on March 13, 2014, 10:56:33 PM
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:40:41 PM
No point in it.

Buzz will play the same guys that got them in this mess, and that group (other than Burton) is no fun to watch.

Just end this nonsense now and move on to next season.

Go eff yourself.. Troll.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:57:38 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
You want to get your team more reps, tournament style play.  Good experience.  You accept and you play. 

If the freshman would get major minutes, then I'd agree.

But to watch D. Wilson and Jamil and Jake again...no point.

God, this won't be any better next year, either.  
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: jesmu84 on March 13, 2014, 10:58:58 PM
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:57:38 PM
If the freshman would get major minutes, then I'd agree.

But to watch D. Wilson and Jamil and Jake again...no point.

God, this won't be any better next year, either.  

and there goes the ignore. i'm guessing you already got booted from this board once under another name earlier this season.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: real chili 83 on March 13, 2014, 10:59:40 PM
+1
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: WarriorDoc on March 13, 2014, 10:59:48 PM
It's been said a million times, but this season has been a disappointment in terms of coaching and player development.  Why not play for the future when we have nothing to play for this season?  No one cares who wins the NIT.  Play JJJ and Burton and give them time to develop.  NIT is a perfect time for this.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: 🏀 on March 13, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:57:38 PM
If the freshman would get major minutes, then I'd agree.

But to watch D. Wilson and Jamil and Jake again...no point.

God, this won't be any better next year, either.  

Then don't fucking watch, pansy.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: StillWarriors on March 13, 2014, 11:00:54 PM
Quote from: ElDonBDon on March 13, 2014, 10:52:44 PM
+1000

You get out there and compete and get better. I'll enjoy watching Davante, Jamil, Jake, Otule and the rest of my team for as long as they can go. I don't get how a fan can think otherwise, as frustrating as it is at times. These guys have all busted their asses and represented MU well in some great times. Not going to bail b/c this year hasn't gone as planned. That's weak.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
You want to get your team more reps, tournament style play.  Good experience.  You accept and you play. 

Seniors don't need more reps. He ain't gonna change the lineup.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Newsdreams on March 13, 2014, 11:02:03 PM
Does this guy even know MU BB history? Does he know about AL and the NIT. I know NIT was more prominent then, but still.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 13, 2014, 10:56:33 PM
Go eff yourself.. Troll.

Troll, lol.

Buzz was BRUTAL this season.  

And he'll play the same crappy players in the NIT with Dawson and JJJ rotting on the bench.  Nothing positive will come out of losing at Indiana in the opening round.

Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: MattyWarrior on March 13, 2014, 11:02:35 PM
Only to watch and let the Frosh play. The seniors suck outside of DG.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: bilsu on March 13, 2014, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: xghostsniperx on March 13, 2014, 10:59:48 PM
It's been said a million times, but this season has been a disappointment in terms of coaching and player development.  Why not play for the future when we have nothing to play for this season?  No one cares who wins the NIT.  Play JJJ and Burton and give them time to develop.  NIT is a perfect time for this.
I sure Burton will continue to start and I am sure JJJ will not see the floor.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Eldon on March 13, 2014, 11:03:49 PM
Quote from: StillWarriors on March 13, 2014, 11:00:54 PM
You get out there and compete and get better. I'll enjoy watching Davante, Jamil, Jake, Otule and the rest of my team for as long as they can go. I don't get how a fan can think otherwise, as frustrating as it is at times. These guys have all busted their asses and represented MU well in some great times. Not ging to bail b/c this year hasn't gone as planned. That's weak.

??

I said "+1000" to Chicos post about accepting the invite and playing.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: 🏀 on March 13, 2014, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 11:02:17 PM
Troll, lol.

Buzz was BRUTAL this season.  

And he'll play the same crappy players in the NIT with Dawson and JJJ rotting on the bench.  Nothing positive will come out of losing at Indiana in the opening round.



Do us a favor and quit posting then since you're done with the season, asshat.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: warriorstrack on March 13, 2014, 11:03:57 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 13, 2014, 11:02:41 PM
I sure Burton will continue to start and I am sure JJJ will not see the floor.

I am def seeing a transfer in the crystal ball
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 11:04:02 PM
Quote from: newsdrms on March 13, 2014, 11:02:03 PM
Does this guy even know MU BB history? Does he know about AL and the NIT. I know NIT was more prominent then, but still.

Know all about that history.  And it's history.

Buzz is going to go with the same rotation that caused this season to be an outright failure.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: ecompt on March 13, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
Ordinarily I would say you always accept, but to accept and get our asses kicked by Creanie at Indiana...I don't know.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 11:05:50 PM
Quote from: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:01:56 PM
Seniors don't need more reps. He ain't gonna change the lineup.

I'm encouraged that he started Burton tonight, it's a start...even if the season is 98% over.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 11:06:22 PM
And if playing time was truly "earned," then Jamil Wilson would sit for the entire game in the NIT.

But Buzz loves Seniors and it doesn't matter how badly they play.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: Automatic, 77% of the time on March 13, 2014, 11:06:07 PM
Maybe he's a reincarnation of Tall Titan or the other scoopers that left/were banned during the Mass Exodus of 2014 AD.

The great Mass Exodus of March, 2014....I remember that.   Historic
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: 🏀 on March 13, 2014, 11:08:01 PM
It's hard to be the dumbest poster of year after this season, but WarriorGreg is going off as a strong favorite at the windows.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 13, 2014, 11:10:37 PM
Sigh....what does Buzz have to do to get people to realize that he has been changing things?

Burton started tonight (worked out great)

Mayo ran the point (worked out not so great)

STJ got an extended run in the first half (worked out not so great)

Everyone thinks Buzz is unwilling to play certain players when it's simply not true. He's been trying new things all season.

In the end, we are not very good this year. Now that is on Buzz for not recruiting/developing properly. But I have been fine with the rotations.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: 🏀 on March 13, 2014, 11:13:30 PM
Quote from: Automatic, 77% of the time on March 13, 2014, 11:13:00 PM
Who cares...
He had a point worth bringing up and that I'm sure others thought about too. Calm down, hot shot.

He's had zero points worth bringing up. It's all garbage.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 13, 2014, 11:15:10 PM
Of course we go, and I'll be watching in gold.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: StillWarriors on March 13, 2014, 11:15:36 PM
Quote from: ElDonBDon on March 13, 2014, 11:03:49 PM
??

I said "+1000" to Chicos post about accepting the invite and playing.

I was agreeing with both of you. Thought I'd quoted both.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Newsdreams on March 13, 2014, 11:15:49 PM
Quote from: Automatic, 77% of the time on March 13, 2014, 11:13:00 PM
Who cares...
He had a point worth bringing up and that I'm sure others thought about too. Calm down, hot shot.
Greg??
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: warriorstrack on March 13, 2014, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 13, 2014, 11:15:10 PM
Of course we go, and I'll be watching in gold.
Maybe Baby Blue would be better
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 13, 2014, 11:10:37 PM
Sigh....what does Buzz have to do to get people to realize that he has been changing things?


Maybe quit giving our starting backcourt so many minutes. That was the biggest reason for 17-15. And it didn't change one bit the entire season even though we knew 5 games in it wasn't going to get the job done.

Maybe not giving Juan more minutes in the 2nd half of the BE season than the 1st half - keeping Burton on the bench.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: bradley center bat on March 13, 2014, 11:24:21 PM
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:40:41 PM
No point in it.

Buzz will play the same guys that got them in this mess, and that group (other than Burton) is no fun to watch.

Just end this nonsense now and move on to next season.
stupid post.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 13, 2014, 11:26:17 PM
If they get invited they should accept and play the future
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: warriorstrack on March 13, 2014, 11:27:58 PM
NIT is an opportunity.  Most teams in the NIT won't know what to do with an OX
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: BenCat12 on March 13, 2014, 11:28:21 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 13, 2014, 10:56:04 PM
I've never met a "Greg" that I've liked.
Clearly you've never seen this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rUw127V4dE
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: bilsu on March 13, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
I think the NIT is important for the Big East. We need all of our teams to do well in NIT. The league would be a joke, if the three or four Big East teams all lost in first round. The one way to prove the Big East was worthy of 6 NCAA bids is to get two teams in the NIT final four. You have to remember teams may have to play on an opposing team's home court, which makes it a tougher game than some NCAA tournament games.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:36:15 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 13, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
I think the NIT is important for the Big East. We need all of our teams to do well in NIT. The league would be a joke, if the three or four Big East teams all lost in first round. The one way to prove the Big East was worthy of 6 NCAA bids is to get two teams in the NIT final four. You have to remember teams may have to play on an opposing team's home court, which makes it a tougher game than some NCAA tournament games.

Can't find the logic there.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: BenCat12 on March 13, 2014, 11:38:33 PM
Quote from: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:36:15 PM
Can't find the logic there.
Because if you reach the NIT final four you are considered better than many of the automatic qualifiers that make the NCAA tourney (14, 15 and 16 seeds).
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: NersEllenson on March 13, 2014, 11:41:16 PM
Quote from: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:22:01 PM
Maybe quit giving our starting backcourt so many minutes. That was the biggest reason for 17-15. And it didn't change one bit the entire season even though we knew 5 games in it wasn't going to get the job done.

Maybe not giving Juan more minutes in the 2nd half of the BE season than the 1st half - keeping Burton on the bench.

Ding ding ding...all kinds of things were tried....other than 1 very obvious thing to AT LEAST TRY...FOR 3-4 GAMES.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Eldon on March 13, 2014, 11:42:59 PM
Quote from: Ners on March 13, 2014, 11:41:16 PM
Ding ding ding...all kinds of things were tried....other than 1 very obvious thing to AT LEAST TRY...FOR 3-4 GAMES.

Prepare your rebuttal for the following

"Coaches don't think this [pragmatically] way"
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:44:46 PM
Quote from: BenCat12 on March 13, 2014, 11:38:33 PM
Because if you reach the NIT final four you are considered better than many of the automatic qualifiers that make the NCAA tourney (14, 15 and 16 seeds).

Still don't understand how that would show we were worthy of 6 bids.

Six bids - are people here crazy or what?
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: keefe on March 13, 2014, 11:45:08 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 13, 2014, 10:56:04 PM
I've never met a "Greg" that I've liked.


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Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 13, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
Quote from: WarriorGreg1965 on March 13, 2014, 10:40:41 PM
No point in it.

Buzz will play the same guys that got them in this mess, and that group (other than Burton) is no fun to watch.

Just end this nonsense now and move on to next season.

I have a better idea. Why don't we go to the NIT and you have a his say fit about it and not watch.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: BenCat12 on March 13, 2014, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:44:46 PM
Still don't understand how that would show we were worthy of 6 bids.

Six bids - are people here crazy or what?
I agree six is over the top, but I think that was his thought process.  I don't think this conference deserves more than two.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Warrior Code on March 14, 2014, 12:08:14 AM
My question to you is: if we were to win the NIT, how would you feel about raising that banner? Proud? Embarrassed? Indifferent?
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2014, 12:10:55 AM
Quote from: WarriorCode on March 14, 2014, 12:08:14 AM
My question to you is: if we were to win the NIT, how would you feel about raising that banner? Proud? Embarrassed? Indifferent?

Embarrassed?  No

Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Class71 on March 14, 2014, 03:31:19 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 11:05:50 PM
I'm encouraged that he started Burton tonight, it's a start...even if the season is 98% over.

Agree. Slow to changing starters but finally seeing a little light. Let's hope for more changes in NIT.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: keefe on March 14, 2014, 04:09:29 AM
Quote from: WarriorCode on March 14, 2014, 12:08:14 AM
My question to you is: if we were to win the NIT, how would you feel about raising that banner? Proud? Embarrassed? Indifferent?

Are you speaking of IU?
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 14, 2014, 06:28:27 AM
This thread is just stupid. We played terribly all year and would be lucky to still be playing in mid-March anywhere they'll let us.

Oh, and you're gonna tell me that you wouldn't watch MU take on Too Tan Tommy? Or Georgetown again? Or Illinois?

Give me a break, you fair weathered clowns.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: Sunbelt15 on March 14, 2014, 06:56:44 AM
Quote from: xghostsniperx on March 13, 2014, 10:59:48 PM
It's been said a million times, but this season has been a disappointment in terms of coaching and player development.  Why not play for the future when we have nothing to play for this season?  No one cares who wins the NIT.  Play JJJ and Burton and give them time to develop.  NIT is a perfect time for this.

+7 of us sitting here.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: chapman on March 14, 2014, 07:44:28 AM
Quote from: brandx on March 13, 2014, 11:36:15 PM
Can't find the logic there.

+1.  It's an "ok, that's nice" to be in the field, but no one cares about how teams actually do in a quest to become the tallest midget.  Half the teams stink, half aren't trying very hard.  Get the young guys some reps and have some fun with it.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: StillWarriors on March 14, 2014, 08:52:05 AM
Of course, everyone would prefer to be in the NCAA tourney, but an extended run in the NIT if you can make one would still be fun. The NIT of course is a bit of a downer initially, but for the teams that can make that run to the final four of the NIT and get back to MSG, I would think that is a pretty cool and worthwhile experience.
Title: Re: MU should turn down NIT invite
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 14, 2014, 09:08:31 AM
The current NIT bracketology has Davidson going.
And of course Indiana.
Since we're going I'm hoping for a matchup with a little intrigue.
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