Hey MUscoop,
I've been writing some articles about Marquette this season and just finished one and posted it today. I'd be delighted if you were to check it out and let me know what you thought.
Here's the link. (http://isportsweb.com/2014/03/12/marquette-basketball-can-the-golden-eagles-pull-off-a-miracle/)
Thanks
(Don't know if these types of posts are frowned upon, sorry if so.)
No.
These posts are not frowned upon. Encouraged, I would say.
MSG is almost on 34th Street.
I believe.
Wide open right now. Nova gone. St. John's gone. G'Town gone. Xavier injured at key spot
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 03:49:12 PM
Wide open right now. Nova gone. St. John's gone. G'Town gone. Xavier injured at key spot
+1 Couldn't have asked for a better start to the tournament.
Question is whether we seize the great opportunity that has become an even greater opportunity, or crap the bed? Let's hope we seize it. Absolutely could not have laid out any better than this and still could get better if DePaul pulls off the upset.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 03:52:51 PM
Absolutely could not have laid out any better than this and still could get better if DePaul pulls off the upset.
I would contend that Georgetown beating DePaul would have been much better. DePaul has almost no chance against Creighton. Georgetown has talent and could have gotten hot for one game. Then MU beats a GT team on there 3 game in 3 days.
Agreed. We have a great chance tonight, but tomorrow against Creighton would be tough. If we lucked out and won both, there's no one on the other side we couldn't beat.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 13, 2014, 03:59:30 PM
I would contend that Georgetown beating DePaul would have been much better. DePaul has almost no chance against Creighton. Georgetown has talent and could have gotten hot for one game. Then MU beats a GT team on there 3 game in 3 days.
I suppose you could argue that.....I'm thinking things have fallen into magical shape for us so far.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 04:01:17 PM
I suppose you could argue that.....I'm thinking things have fallen into magical shape for us so far.
It's certainly looking better, but really Creighton losing is what would be "magical" shape.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 03:52:51 PM
Question is whether we seize the great opportunity that has become an even greater opportunity, or crap the bed? Let's hope we seize it. Absolutely could not have laid out any better than this and still could get better if DePaul pulls off the upset.
May be a bit strong of words, Creighton is till in our way and I feel they are our achilles heal this year.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 03:52:51 PM
Question is whether we seize the great opportunity that has become an even greater opportunity, or crap the bed? Let's hope we seize it. Absolutely could not have laid out any better than this and still could get better if DePaul pulls off the upset.
I see what you did their Chicos'
Your setting this whole tournament up as a lose lose for Marquette.
If Marquette loses against X than crapped the bed, but if they win it was only cause Stainbrook was out.
Marquette would need to win the next 3 by at least 20 points for you to be happy.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 03:52:51 PM
Question is whether we seize the great opportunity that has become an even greater opportunity, or crap the bed? Let's hope we seize it. Absolutely could not have laid out any better than this and still could get better if DePaul pulls off the upset.
Don't disagree with you, but either way we still have to go through Creighton. If we don't beat Creighton what Nova or St. John's did really doesn't matter to us.
Now, if DePaul somehow by the grace of God beats Creighton, then you are absolutely right, we would be set up perfectly.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2014, 03:52:51 PM
Question is whether we seize the great opportunity that has become an even greater opportunity, or crap the bed? Let's hope we seize it. Absolutely could not have laid out any better than this and still could get better if DePaul pulls off the upset.
This tournament is unreal. Not counting on Depaul...hell we got to get past Xavier. If we do when was the last time a team beat another 3 times in the same season.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 13, 2014, 04:40:59 PM
This tournament is unreal. Not counting on Depaul...hell we got to get past Xavier. If we do when was the last time a team beat another 3 times in the same season.
It happens a lot!!
Purdue just beat Ohio State for the 3rd time today.
Arizona beat Utah for the 3rd time today
We beat Seton Hall 3 times a few years ago
We beat Louisville 3 times in 2002 as well.
The 3 times thing is one of the biggest myths in sports. The reason why people think it happens all the time is that when it happens, it is usually a giant upset and people tend to remember giant upsets.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 13, 2014, 04:44:17 PM
It happens a lot!!
Purdue just beat Ohio State for the 3rd time today.
Arizona beat Utah for the 3rd time today
We beat Seton Hall 3 times a few years ago
We beat Louisville 3 times in 2002 as well.
The 3 times thing is one of the biggest myths in sports. The reason why people think it happens all the time is that when it happens, it is usually a giant upset and people tend to remember giant upsets.
KW, please retract this post if we manage to get past Xavier tonight.
Quote from: LAZER on March 13, 2014, 04:03:27 PM
It's certainly looking better, but really Creighton losing is what would be "magical" shape.
Let's hope DePaul can do it.
There were 4 teams that scared me in this tournament. SJU, Nova, Creighton, Georgetown. We were a combined 2-6 against them including an OT win at G'Town and a 2 point win against G"town. Three of the four are out in their first game. That's pretty crazy. Almost magical.
Quote from: barfolomew on March 13, 2014, 04:49:37 PM
KW, please retract this post if we manage to get past Xavier tonight.
Dont worry; we will be playing DePaul ;)
One game at a time fellas.
Seton Hall appears to hold the glass slipper right now. We've been waiting for JW to go all crazy and score 35 tonight is the night. If he hits that 1st mid range jumper from the right side were OK. If not look out.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 13, 2014, 04:44:17 PM
It happens a lot!!
Purdue just beat Ohio State for the 3rd time today.
Arizona beat Utah for the 3rd time today
We beat Seton Hall 3 times a few years ago
We beat Louisville 3 times in 2002 as well.
The 3 times thing is one of the biggest myths in sports. The reason why people think it happens all the time is that when it happens, it is usually a giant upset and people tend to remember giant upsets.
Purdue lost to Ohio State today...though it may be you were saying OSU beat Purdue 3 times?
You are right, though, the idea it is harder to win for a third time is a myth.
I'll never understand why people are more afraid of Creighton then Nova.
Just use Davante like a normal team would and we can beat creighton. If they are cold, then we can really beat them.
Nova is tough all around and it took a historically bad game for them to lose...by 1.
My dumb theory: In conference tournaments, the best teams have less to play for. I'm not saying good teams don't play hard, but they aren't as desperate for wins. Seniors on mediocre teams are facing potentially the last college game of their lives. They leave everything on the court.
Upsets like SH-Nova are more likely to happen.
How desperate is DePaul? Hopefully desperate enough for them to sneak by Creighton.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 13, 2014, 05:05:12 PM
My dumb theory: In conference tournaments, the best teams have less to play for. I'm not saying good teams don't play hard, but they aren't as desperate for wins. Seniors on mediocre teams are facing potentially the last college game of their lives. They leave everything on the court.
Upsets like SH-Nova are more likely to happen.
How desperate is DePaul? Hopefully desperate enough for them to sneak by Creighton.
Yes, there is not a sense of urgency. Nova already has the regular season championship and at least a 2 seed in the NCAAs.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on March 13, 2014, 04:55:35 PM
I'll never understand why people are more afraid of Creighton then Nova.
Just use Davante like a normal team would and we can beat creighton. If they are cold, then we can really beat them.
Nova is tough all around and it took a historically bad game for them to lose...by 1.
Normally I would agree with you....but after watching our "game plan" the first two Creighton games in which Davante got 3 shots and 2 shots for a total of 5 shots in two games leads me to believe we don't know how to attack them. Third time is the charm to finally get it right?
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on March 13, 2014, 04:55:35 PM
I'll never understand why people are more afraid of Creighton then Nova.
Just use Davante like a normal team would and we can beat creighton. If they are cold, then we can really beat them.
Nova is tough all around and it took a historically bad game for them to lose...by 1.
You need a strong athletic big to take advantage of Creighton. Davante has great agility/nimbleness, but lacks raw athleticism. He is too easily exploited by Creighton and any benefit he can provide on offense is negated quickly on D.
They all know how he plays and will flop on contact and get the call. They also are smart and frequently double with anyone who isn't guarding Jake...again negating his benefits. We do not match up well with Creighton. Swap Davante for Crowder or Jimmy and I think we would beat them handily. (better yet swap Otule and Crowder/Jimmy).
Quote from: forgetful on March 13, 2014, 05:47:53 PM
You need a strong athletic big to take advantage of Creighton. Davante has great agility/nimbleness, but lacks raw athleticism. He is too easily exploited by Creighton and any benefit he can provide on offense is negated quickly on D.
They all know how he plays and will flop on contact and get the call. They also are smart and frequently double with anyone who isn't guarding Jake...again negating his benefits. We do not match up well with Creighton. Swap Davante for Crowder or Jimmy and I think we would beat them handily. (better yet swap Otule and Crowder/Jimmy).
Gardner not getting shots against Creighton has little to do with Creighton and a lot to do with our strategy playing them in our first two meetings.
But I think the way to actually play Creighton is to do the opposite of what conventional wisdom would suggest. I think you have to attack with penetration early and often and push the tempo while playing full court pressure.
I don't think Crowder or Butler on this team makes a difference as Creighton would still likely win, but last year's Louisville team would destroy them. Creighton doesn't have the athletes to hang with that pressure defense and transition game. Theoretically we should have an athletic advantage as well but you'd never know it watching our game plan against them