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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on February 24, 2014, 09:27:57 AM

Title: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 24, 2014, 09:27:57 AM
I was talking to another scooper at the DePaul game and he asked "why did Crean hire Buzz?"  It was a serious question.  By all indications they did not know each other before Buzz was hired as an assistant in 2007.

Given all the discussion here, I do not recall anyone explaining how an unemployed former head coach of New Orleans (and was involved in a lawsuit) managed to get Crean to take him as an assistant in 2007.  99% of the discussion here starts with Buzz getting hired in April 2008 or discusses his background from growing up in Texas through New Orleans.  Their seems to be a hole in this discussion around 2007.

Can anyone enlighten?
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on February 24, 2014, 09:32:20 AM
I understand this doesn't directly answer anything, but from Crean:

"I've admired Buzz Williams' work from a far for some time and have grown to appreciate it even more as I've gotten to know him over the last year," Crean said. "Adding a person of his character, integrity and talent to our staff means a great deal to me. "I know our players, fans and future recruits will all feel the same way," Crean added. "Adding Buzz to Bennie Seltzer, Tim Buckley and Brian Barone, gives us a staff I'm really excited to compete with in the Big East and nationally."
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: UticaBusBarn on February 24, 2014, 09:33:37 AM
According to Todd, at the time, Coach Williams was hired because he was considered very talented at recruiting, particularly in the south-west. There was no mention of the legal action until he was hired as head coach. (I would like to know the story of how and why he was hired.)

So, on the surface, it all had to do with Coach Williams' ability to bring talent to Marquette ... something he has done very, very well, over the years!

Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: GGGG on February 24, 2014, 09:34:38 AM
He wasn't an unemployed coach when he was hired.  He was the head coach at UNO when he took the job here.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: MUMBA on February 24, 2014, 09:40:37 AM
He did really well recruiting at Colorado State and Texas A&M   Both schools ended some long tourney droughts with the players he recruited. 
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: MarsupialMadness on February 24, 2014, 09:46:32 AM
Crean on the hire:

"Everywhere he's been he's left the program in better shape than it was, and he's done the same at New Orleans," Crean said. "He has earned his reputation as one of the best recruiters and best young coaches in this business."

"I want coaches that recruits are attracted to, our own players want to work with and ones that athletic directors and other coaches want to hire," Crean said. "I don't want to be around people that aren't wanted. Change is part of the business and you can either run with it or try to deny those things come up."

I don't think there was any direct link between the two, Crean just wanted a coach with a strong reputation of recruiting.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: MarsupialMadness on February 24, 2014, 09:47:31 AM
Quote from: MUMBA on February 24, 2014, 09:40:37 AM
He did really well recruiting at Colorado State and Texas A&M   Both schools ended some long tourney droughts with the players he recruited. 

+1

He was a key player in the recruting of DeAndre Jordan to A&M.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: RubyWiscy on February 24, 2014, 09:50:46 AM
Despite the Crean hate here, he really did a ton of good things for the MU program. Buzz was just the icing on the cake.  Well, that and the Big East affiliation.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2014, 09:52:56 AM
No one else was willin' to work for that sumbitch, T-Cubed.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: Windyplayer on February 24, 2014, 09:57:53 AM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on February 24, 2014, 09:32:20 AM
I understand this doesn't directly answer anything, but from Crean:

"I've admired Buzz Williams' work from a far for some time and have grown to appreciate it even more as I've gotten to know him over the last year," Crean said. "Adding a person of his character, integrity and talent to our staff means a great deal to me. "I know our players, fans and future recruits will all feel the same way," Crean added. "Adding Buzz to Bennie Seltzer, Tim Buckley and Brian Barone, gives us a staff I'm really excited to compete with in the Big East and nationally."
This quote encapsulates the essence of Tom Crean.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: tower912 on February 24, 2014, 09:59:37 AM
He felt he had hit his ceiling with recruiting at MU.   Buzz had a reputation as a great recruiter.    He filled what he perceived to be a need.   
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: willie warrior on February 24, 2014, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Ruby on February 24, 2014, 09:50:46 AM
Despite the Crean hate here, he really did a ton of good things for the MU program. Buzz was just the icing on the cake.  Well, that and the Big East affiliation.
Yep--never was a big fan of the tanned one, but his hire of Buzz was a good move, and Crean does deserve kudos for that. The way he left though was a huge douche stain.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2014, 11:30:13 AM
Buzz wanted out after one year, Crean needed an excellent recruiter.  Chocolate plus peanut butter = Reese's Peanut Butter Cup
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: chapman on February 24, 2014, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: tower912 on February 24, 2014, 09:59:37 AM
He felt he had hit his ceiling with recruiting at MU.   Buzz had a reputation as a great recruiter.    He filled what he perceived to be a need.   

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Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2014, 11:48:22 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2014, 11:30:13 AM
Buzz wanted out after one year, Crean needed an excellent recruiter.  Chocolate plus peanut butter = Reese's Peanut Butter Cup


Who's who here? Not a fan of peanut butter. Frankly, I can't stand it.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: Tigidal on February 24, 2014, 11:50:51 AM
Because he'd already received 1,241 personal letters from the guy, and wanted them to STOP.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 24, 2014, 12:10:28 PM
Buzz had a karate suit guy.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: Fullodds on February 24, 2014, 12:40:48 PM
1.  Recruiting
2.  Head coaching experience
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: downtown85 on February 24, 2014, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Ruby on February 24, 2014, 09:50:46 AM
Despite the Crean hate here, he really did a ton of good things for the MU program. Buzz was just the icing on the cake.  Well, that and the Big East affiliation.

Buzz will hire him as head of basketball operations when he is fired from IU.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 24, 2014, 12:51:53 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on February 24, 2014, 12:46:17 PM
Buzz will hire him as head of basketball operations when he is fired from IU.

It'd be pretty entertaining to see Tom Crean and O'Neil both end up working here for Buzz as assistants even though they'd never do it. 
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 24, 2014, 05:05:16 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on February 24, 2014, 12:46:17 PM
Buzz will hire him as head of basketball operations when he is fired from IU.

Marketing Director.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2014, 05:10:05 PM
Quote from: downtown85 on February 24, 2014, 12:46:17 PM
Buzz will hire him as head of basketball operations when he is fired from IU.

Crean would leave before he gets fired IMO.  If that didn't work out, he would be hired by someone else like K-State did with Bruce Weber. 


Right now, it hasn't exactly been a stellar coaching year for either Buzz or Crean.  Maybe they can help each other.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on February 24, 2014, 05:22:31 PM
Quote from: Tigidal on February 24, 2014, 11:50:51 AM
Because he'd already received 1,241 personal letters from the guy, and wanted them to STOP.

;D ;D
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on February 24, 2014, 06:40:19 PM
Quote from: windyplayer on February 24, 2014, 09:57:53 AM
This quote encapsulates the essence of Tom Crean.

Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of Crean's slicked back buttcut 'do during the pregame jumbotron speech.
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: avid1010 on February 24, 2014, 07:44:31 PM
didn't buzz come in with a bunch of guys following him (jimmy, a healthy joe, etc.)???  i've always wondered about how that may have played into it...were they going to follow him to UNO?
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: MUSF on February 25, 2014, 08:47:49 AM
Crean did it because he's an arrogant used car salesman prick that... wait, what's this thread about?
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 25, 2014, 09:18:22 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on February 24, 2014, 07:44:31 PM
didn't buzz come in with a bunch of guys following him (jimmy, a healthy joe, etc.)???  i've always wondered about how that may have played into it...were they going to follow him to UNO?

I thought of this too ... and shouldn't Otule be on this list too?
Title: Re: Why did Crean Hire Buzz?
Post by: MUSF on February 25, 2014, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on February 24, 2014, 07:44:31 PM
didn't buzz come in with a bunch of guys following him (jimmy, a healthy joe, etc.)???  i've always wondered about how that may have played into it...were they going to follow him to UNO?

Joe Fulce and Jimmy Butler were not highly touted when Buzz came to MU. I doubt that getting those two players was a significant factor in hiring Buzz.
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