by Rob Dauster of NBC Sports - Just posting because 1st time I've seen us in the Bubble conversation:
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/15/bubble-banter-why-the-biggest-game-of-the-day-was-between-missouri-and-tennessee/
Marquette (RPI: 73, KenPom: 50) has nine top 60 losses and a loss at Butler (125th RPI). They added another top 50 win on Saturday, however, and will have five more games against top 60 opponents, including Creighton and Villanova. They need to go at least 4-2 down the stretch to make up enough ground.
Also has comments on Providence & Xavier.
AHHHHHH, that Butler OT loss!!!!!
The revisionist historian in me is for some reason less worried about the Butler OT loss than the ASU loss by 2 back on Nov. 25th.
If that game was currently in the W column, I think most of the current conversations (the ones outside of Scoop, I mean) about Marquette's tournament chances are very different.
Let's hope that the committee gets a palate-cleansing, strong MU run to end the season to assuage the bitterness of the non-con scalps that got away.
Quote from: barfolomew on February 16, 2014, 03:23:18 PM
The revisionist historian in me is for some reason less worried about the Butler OT loss than the ASU loss by 2 back on Nov. 25th.
If that game was currently in the W column, I think most of the current conversations (the ones outside of Scoop, I mean) about Marquette's tournament chances are very different.
Let's hope that the committee gets a palate-cleansing, strong MU run to end the season to assuage the bitterness of the non-con scalps that got away.
Of course. 16-9 just looks so much better. Then 8-4 in conference?
That was a very grim 15 minute stretch of completely inept basketball. Such a shame.
Quote from: barfolomew on February 16, 2014, 03:23:18 PM
The revisionist historian in me is for some reason less worried about the Butler OT loss than the ASU loss by 2 back on Nov. 25th.
If that game was currently in the W column, I think most of the current conversations (the ones outside of Scoop, I mean) about Marquette's tournament chances are very different.
Let's hope that the committee gets a palate-cleansing, strong MU run to end the season to assuage the bitterness of the non-con scalps that got away.
Fair point, but Butler would have put another W in our conference W column.
I'm sure the mathematicians can compute which would actually have been better for RPI.
Who care about the Butler game. No sense in looking back right now. We are who we are as of February 16, 2014.
It's all about this Wednesday, then Saturday, then next Thursday, and so on. I'll enjoy the ride.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 16, 2014, 03:37:11 PM
Fair point, but Butler would have put another W in our conference W column.
I'm sure the mathematicians can compute which would actually have been better for RPI.
Barely any difference whether MU had beaten Arizona State or Butler, the impact to RPI would be nearly the same... but a tiny edge to beating Arizona State because MU's opponents play Butler more than MU's opponents play Arizona this year.
As of today, rough estimates:
MU at .5605 RPI, good for #76.
Winning at either ASU or Butler would help by .0111 via the adjusted winning % factor.
Opponents' winning %'s would be unaffected (excludes games vs. MU).
Opponents' Opponents' winning % would be affected slightly. Beating ASU would hurt MU by ~.0002 and beating Butler would damage MU's RPI relative to this factor by ~.0010.
So, ASU: add .0109 and Butler add .0101 to the current RPI. (This changes with most every D-I game played in college bball)... a win against either of those teams would have put MU's current RPI at approximately #66 instead of #76.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 16, 2014, 11:45:04 PM
Barely any difference whether MU had beaten Arizona State or Butler, the impact to RPI would be nearly the same... but a tiny edge to beating Arizona State because MU's opponents play Butler more than MU's opponents play Arizona this year.
As of today, rough estimates:
MU at .5605 RPI, good for #76.
Winning at either ASU or Butler would help by .0111 via the adjusted winning % factor.
Opponents' winning %'s would be unaffected (excludes games vs. MU).
Opponents' Opponents' winning % would be affected slightly. Beating ASU would hurt MU by ~.0002 and beating Butler would damage MU's RPI relative to this factor by ~.0010.
So, ASU: add .0109 and Butler add .0101 to the current RPI. (This changes with most every D-I game played in college bball)... a win against either of those teams would have put MU's current RPI at approximately #66 instead of #76.
JB
You learn to do RPI calculations at a Star Trek Convention or from years of playing Dungeons and Dragons?
Quote from: keefe on February 16, 2014, 11:49:19 PM
JB
You learn to do RPI calculations at a Star Trek Convention or from years of playing Dungeons and Dragons?
It's all right here, the impacts of each opponent. Just scroll down to the bottom
http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Marquette.html
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 16, 2014, 11:59:28 PM
It's all right here, the impacts of each opponent. Just scroll down to the bottom
http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Marquette.html
No - it's not there. It's on a pad of paper I used to calculate.
Stop making things up.