In 5 hours the USA will be playing Russia in mens ice hockey. Now a lot of you will not be up and watching the game and many others may not even care but my dad and I will be up watching Patrick Kane and the rest of the US squad kick some Russian ass. Its just moments like these where I have no problem waking up at 6:15 on a Saturday to watch a hockey game with my dad and I love that we can share moments like that together. So with that little sentimental post ill leave you with go USA, beat the Russians.
Effin commies.
Better dead than red
Ich bin ein Berliner!
Ich bin ein Bismarck!
Quote from: real chili 83 on February 15, 2014, 03:33:17 AM
Effin commies.
Today, in his honor
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I'm glad the USA won, but it just didn't have the same emotional impact that the Miracle on Ice did. To me, it looked like a couple of good NHL teams in a playoff game. No David versus Goliath subtext.
Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
I'm glad the USA won, but it just didn't have the same emotional impact that the Miracle on Ice did. To me, it looked like a couple of good NHL teams in a playoff game. No David versus Goliath subtext.
Yea, we lost a lot when the Berlin Wall came down...
Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
I'm glad the USA won, but it just didn't have the same emotional impact that the Miracle on Ice did. To me, it looked like a couple of good NHL teams in a playoff game. No David versus Goliath subtext.
I mean it wasnt supposed to be. I wasnt even alive then but everytime I watch that 1980s clip I still get chills. However, if the US beats Canada in OT in the gold medal match you better believe ill be hyped.
Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
I'm glad the USA won, but it just didn't have the same emotional impact that the Miracle on Ice did. To me, it looked like a couple of good NHL teams in a playoff game. No David versus Goliath subtext.
That will never, ever be replicated. Everyone knows the complete underdog story, but I don't think people fully appreciate how much the late 1970s sucked in the US. Vietnam War....craphole of an economy (much worse than what we just went through)... In many ways it looked like we might "lose" the cold war. Then this happened to kick off the 1980s. Now I am not dumb enough to say this hockey game "caused" anything. But it was quite refreshing to say the least.
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 15, 2014, 10:05:12 AM
That will never, ever be replicated. Everyone knows the complete underdog story, but I don't think people fully appreciate how much the late 1970s sucked in the US. Vietnam War....craphole of an economy (much worse than what we just went through)... In many ways it looked like we might "lose" the cold war. Then this happened to kick off the 1980s. Now I am not dumb enough to say this hockey game "caused" anything. But it was quite refreshing to say the least.
Well, replacing Jimmy Carter with a real leader might have had some impact...
When I was at Marquette the prime rate was hovering around 20%, gold went from $32 to $800 an ounce, and fuel shortages had gas stations closed on alternating days and lines down the block. Carter gets on TV wearing a cardigan and tells America that it is suffering from a malaise so turn down the thermostat and get yourself a warm sweater.
In national security matters Iranian radicals seized our embassy and held our people hostage for 400 days. Was it a coincidence they were freed on the day Ronald Reagan was inaugurated?
It is difficult to believe Carter is an Academy grad. He ordered that military personnel assigned to the NCR to not wear their uniforms to work because he thought Washington looked like a military garrison. Our Chiefs of Staff and everyone else working at the Pentagon reported for duty in mufti.
My father was an AF Wing Commander in that era. Many aircraft couldn't fly for lack of fuel and spare parts so combat readiness was lower than at any time since Pearl Harbor. I recall my mother leading the Officers' Wives Club to collect government cheese and other foodstuffs for the young enlisted families whose pay was so low they qualified for welfare but were too proud to apply for it.
I believe Jimmy Carter is a decent, honorable man but he was terrible as a leader. People wanted hope and inspiration in those difficult days but Carter's message was America is in decline so get used to it. He was the anti-Nixon but unfortunately he was the wrong man for the wrong time.
How could I have forgotten the hostage crisis...which started just a few months before the Olympics began?
Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
I'm glad the USA won, but it just didn't have the same emotional impact that the Miracle on Ice did. To me, it looked like a couple of good NHL teams in a playoff game. No David versus Goliath subtext.
It never will again. I bought Miracle the other day for my son to watch. Pretty good movie. I was only 11 when we won that game, but still gives me chills. Nothing like it.
Quote from: keefe on February 15, 2014, 10:41:33 AM
Well, replacing Jimmy Carter with a real leader might have had some impact...
When I was at Marquette the prime rate was hovering around 20%, gold went from $32 to $800 an ounce, and fuel shortages had gas stations closed on alternating days and lines down the block. Carter gets on TV wearing a cardigan and tells America that it is suffering from a malaise so turn down the thermostat and get yourself a warm sweater.
In national security matters Iranian radicals seized our embassy and held our people hostage for 400 days. Was it a coincidence they were freed on the day Ronald Reagan was inaugurated?
It is difficult to believe Carter is an Academy grad. He ordered that military personnel assigned to the NCR to not wear their uniforms to work because he thought Washington looked like a military garrison. Our Chiefs of Staff and everyone else working at the Pentagon reported for duty in mufti.
My father was an AF Wing Commander in that era. Many aircraft couldn't fly for lack of fuel and spare parts so combat readiness was lower than at any time since Pearl Harbor. I recall my mother leading the Officers' Wives Club to collect government cheese and other foodstuffs for the young enlisted families whose pay was so low they qualified for welfare but were too proud to apply for it.
I believe Jimmy Carter is a decent, honorable man but he was terrible as a leader. People wanted hope and inspiration in those difficult days but Carter's message was America is in decline so get used to it. He was the anti-Nixon but unfortunately he was the wrong man for the wrong time.
Efficient summary. Thank you.
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 15, 2014, 10:05:12 AM
That will never, ever be replicated. Everyone knows the complete underdog story, but I don't think people fully appreciate how much the late 1970s sucked in the US. Vietnam War....craphole of an economy (much worse than what we just went through)... In many ways it looked like we might "lose" the cold war. Then this happened to kick off the 1980s. Now I am not dumb enough to say this hockey game "caused" anything. But it was quite refreshing to say the least.
+1
Quote from: keefe on February 15, 2014, 10:41:33 AM
Well, replacing Jimmy Carter with a real leader might have had some impact...
When I was at Marquette the prime rate was hovering around 20%, gold went from $32 to $800 an ounce, and fuel shortages had gas stations closed on alternating days and lines down the block. Carter gets on TV wearing a cardigan and tells America that it is suffering from a malaise so turn down the thermostat and get yourself a warm sweater.
In national security matters Iranian radicals seized our embassy and held our people hostage for 400 days. Was it a coincidence they were freed on the day Ronald Reagan was inaugurated?
It is difficult to believe Carter is an Academy grad. He ordered that military personnel assigned to the NCR to not wear their uniforms to work because he thought Washington looked like a military garrison. Our Chiefs of Staff and everyone else working at the Pentagon reported for duty in mufti.
My father was an AF Wing Commander in that era. Many aircraft couldn't fly for lack of fuel and spare parts so combat readiness was lower than at any time since Pearl Harbor. I recall my mother leading the Officers' Wives Club to collect government cheese and other foodstuffs for the young enlisted families whose pay was so low they qualified for welfare but were too proud to apply for it.
I believe Jimmy Carter is a decent, honorable man but he was terrible as a leader. People wanted hope and inspiration in those difficult days but Carter's message was America is in decline so get used to it. He was the anti-Nixon but unfortunately he was the wrong man for the wrong time.
Yup, that about sums it up. Malaise.
Oh and I should add that as a kid growing up in Madison, Wisconsin hockey was huge at the time. (The football and basketball teams sucked.) Two of the Miracle on Ice members were Badgers that I had seen play many times, and between that and Eric Heiden, those Olympics were very much the greatest sporting event of my childhood.
So I am a little biased.
I love the Olympics, but NBC is tragic. Completely takes the experience away. I've restored to streaming from the internet because I could not deal with NBC and its crap anymore. We must have the worst Olympic coverage out of any of the powerhouse countries. Completely biased and only showing that what America is good at. It's a global spectacle. 6 hours of figure skating is 6 hours too much. Unbelievable how terrible NBC is.
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 15, 2014, 10:58:00 AM
Oh and I should add that as a kid growing up in Madison, Wisconsin hockey was huge at the time. (The football and basketball teams sucked.) Two of the Miracle on Ice members were Badgers that I had seen play many times, and between that and Eric Heiden, those Olympics were very much the greatest sporting event of my childhood.
So I am a little biased.
I think the coach of that team was also the coach at UW Madison. Bob Johnson won a few titles while at Wisconsin.
Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on February 15, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
I love the Olympics, but NBC is tragic. Completely takes the experience away. I've restored to streaming from the internet because I could not deal with NBC and its crap anymore. We must have the worst Olympic coverage out of any of the powerhouse countries. Completely biased and only showing that what America is good at. It's a global spectacle. 6 hours of figure skating is 6 hours too much. Unbelievable how terrible NBC is.
I noticed this too. Every US athlete is apparently the best in the world, but very few have been medaling. Worse yet is when the announcers make up a bunch of excuses concerning snow conditions or some crap for the reason they finished 8th.
Quote from: keefe on February 15, 2014, 12:05:20 PM
I think the coach of that team was also the coach at UW Madison. Bob Johnson won a few titles while at Wisconsin.
Herb Brooks was the '80 coach. Johnson coached in '76 though. I believe Johnson is the only coach to win both an NCAA title and a Stanley Cup as coach.
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 15, 2014, 12:16:56 PM
Herb Brooks was the '80 coach. Johnson coached in '76 though. I believe Johnson is the only coach to win both an NCAA title and a Stanley Cup as coach.
Roger, Brooks. You are correct, sir.
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 15, 2014, 12:11:19 PM
I noticed this too. Every US athlete is apparently the best in the world, but very few have been medaling. Worse yet is when the announcers make up a bunch of excuses concerning snow conditions or some crap for the reason they finished 8th.
Let's face it - jingoism IS what the Olympics is all about.
I was glad to see Noelle Pikus-Pace medal. Quite a comeback from a gruesome accident. I love how her family is her central incentive. She is a poster child for the LDS Church. Theology aside they stress some important core values and she certainly embodies them in her daily life.
Quote from: keefe on February 15, 2014, 12:27:13 PM
Let's face it - jingoism IS what the Olympics is all about.
I was glad to see Noelle Pikus-Pace medal. Quite a comeback from a gruesome accident. I love how her family is her central incentive. She is a poster child for the LDS Church. Theology aside they stress some important core values and she certainly embodies them in her daily life.
But she didn't win a gold!!!
Her reaction was the perfect example of the difference between what athletes feel and NBCs coverage. Stark contrast.
Oh, and by the way, the '80's are done and gone. I think Chicos & Keefe need to lose the chains, button their shirts up, and un-poof their hair :o
Quote from: brandx on February 15, 2014, 12:33:41 PM
But she didn't win a gold!!!
Her reaction was the perfect example of the difference between what athletes feel and NBCs coverage. Stark contrast.
Oh, and by the way, the '80's are done and gone. I think Chicos & Keefe need to lose the chains, button their shirts up, and un-poof their hair :o
Hair?
Quote from: keefe on February 15, 2014, 12:36:15 PM
Hair?
Yeah, I can't imagine your hair looked anything like mine did in the 80's.
Good to see the Ducks Cam Fowler put one in the back of the net today, and the Kings Quick hold steady in the pipes.
So Cal hockey baby
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 15, 2014, 12:16:56 PM
Herb Brooks was the '80 coach. Johnson coached in '76 though. I believe Johnson is the only coach to win both an NCAA title and a Stanley Cup as coach.
Is Brooks the only one to win a NCAA Title and an Olympic Gold? Pretty sure he is as Jack Riley was the coach in 1960 and I don't believe he won a NCAA title.
Quote from: brandx on February 15, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Yeah, I can't imagine your hair looked anything like mine did in the 80's.
When I went TACP I was rushing a frat and one of the terms is we shave our heads. It is amazing how going Kojak simplifies your morning toilette. And out in the field, where we hid in rocks and forests, it kept those pesky little biters from nesting on your 12 o'clock high.
Still flying your freak flag, x?
Quote from: keefe on February 15, 2014, 01:02:03 PM
When I went TACP I was rushing a frat and one of the terms is we shave our heads. It is amazing how going Kojak simplifies your morning toilette. And out in the field, where we hid in rocks and forests, it kept those pesky little biters from nesting on your 12 o'clock high.
Still flying your freak flag, x?
Nope those days are gone.
Quote from: brandx on February 15, 2014, 01:53:05 PM
Nope those days are gone.
Not in Seattle...Freak Flags are still pretty ubiquitous around here
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Quote from: jesmu84 on February 15, 2014, 12:11:19 PM
I noticed this too. Every US athlete is apparently the best in the world, but very few have been medaling. Worse yet is when the announcers make up a bunch of excuses concerning snow conditions or some crap for the reason they finished 8th.
This.
Today, during the skeleton competition, which was aired Live on NBCSN, there was some american that was supposed to challenge for a medal. It was his final run and he bolted out of the start. During the run up, he couldn't keep his sled straight and almost fell off. He finished in 15th place. The announcers proceeded to blame the horrible start on the carved lines that the skeleton sled slides on for the first couple meters or so. They said that the grooves were not deep enough. Last I checked, 20+ other skeleton riders went down those same exact groove lines and no one else had a problem with them. So who is to blame here?
Same with the speed skating suits. The suits are not the problem. America is not a speed skating pwoerhouse. They have relied on the same people for the last three olympics. They got old and aren't able to keep up with the youngsters. I'm sick of NBC's Shi*.
I love the Olympics. Doesn't matter what is on. Its like the Wide World of Sports everyday for three weeks.
Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on February 15, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Same with the speed skating suits. The suits are not the problem. America is not a speed skating pwoerhouse. They have relied on the same people for the last three olympics. They got old and aren't able to keep up with the youngsters. I'm sick of NBC's Shi*.
It's not the suits. It's the pretentiousness of two or three people at USASS who decided that SLC is a much more cultural place than MKE for the US team to train, despite the fact that the the ice at the Pettit is 100x more similar to Sochi than SLC. The US team medals 45% of the time at altitude races and 20% at sea level races... you don't have to be a stats major to see something wrong there.
But NBC won't ask those questions. God forbid the controversy they dig up has anything to do with the IOC, USOC or any governing body.
The Olympics (in this day and age) does almost nothing for me. Haven't watched a second, but I will try to catch some hockey.
Glad to see Minnesota reppin
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 16, 2014, 11:55:47 AM
The Olympics (in this day and age) does almost nothing for me. Haven't watched a second, but I will try to catch some hockey.
Glad to see Minnesota reppin
Didn't realize you owned one of them new TV thingies.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 15, 2014, 08:14:55 PM
I love the Olympics. Doesn't matter what is on. Its like the Wide World of Sports everyday for three weeks.
The Agony of Defeat. Classic.
I saw an update on that guy. He's a farmer in Serbia. He had no idea every boy in America grew up seeing his fall week after week. He was stunned that he had such notoriety.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 15, 2014, 08:14:55 PM
I love the Olympics. Doesn't matter what is on. Its like the Wide World of Sports everyday for three weeks.
This. I miss that show. That and Superstars. ;D
Quote from: warriorchick on February 16, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
This. I miss that show. That and Superstars. ;D
You mean Robert Conrad Behaving Like a Dick Superstars or The Untethered Starlets Running Around in Hot Pants Superstars?
Quote from: keefe on February 16, 2014, 02:39:35 PM
You mean Robert Conrad Behaving Like a Dick Superstars or The Untethered Starlets Running Around in Hot Pants Superstars?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWU9huMMco
Keefe, I believe you are confusing "Superstars" with "Battle of the Network Stars".
Quote from: warriorchick on February 16, 2014, 02:43:14 PM
Keefe, I believe you are confusing "Superstars" with "Battle of the Network Stars".
Was Superstars a singing show sponsored by K-Tel?
(http://www.ktel.com/make_thumbnail.php?image=images/albums/lg/AC05856-F.jpg&picwidth=250)
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Quote from: warriorchick on February 16, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
This. I miss that show. That and Superstars. ;D
We tried to bring it back a number of years ago. Went nowhere. Athletes get paid way too much now, they don't want to risk injury, etc. It was a fun idea, then the agents got involved and it went over like a huge wet fart in church at that point.
Quote from: keefe on February 16, 2014, 03:50:08 PM
Was Superstars a singing show sponsored by K-Tel?
(http://www.ktel.com/make_thumbnail.php?image=images/albums/lg/AC05856-F.jpg&picwidth=250)
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http://www.thesuperstars.org/
Quote from: keefe on February 16, 2014, 03:50:08 PM
Was Superstars a singing show sponsored by K-Tel?
(http://www.ktel.com/make_thumbnail.php?image=images/albums/lg/AC05856-F.jpg&picwidth=250)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luw8u6TUst1qbffuuo1_500.jpg)
I had a feeling you had those 8-tracks in your collection.
Quote from: brandx on February 16, 2014, 04:49:22 PM
I had a feeling you had those 8-tracks in your collection.
8 track in the '68 GTO. Home is an AKAI reel-to-reel. I was thinking about upgrading to this new cassette tape technology.