Juan and Derrick replaced Buzz last night on the radio show. Buzz was on a recruiting trip.
You can hear it here.
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=71&c=766&f=2425573
What I found most interesting was the question about Buzz's rapid substitutions during a game (about the 30 minute mark). Last week Buzz talked about it saying that every possession is important so he substitutes for the next two possessions at every dead ball the entire game. Most coaches do this at the end of the game, Buzz does it the entire game.
Juan and Derrick said they "get it" as do all the upperclassmen. They said they pretty much know when they are going in, how long they will be in and when they are coming out. Point is they don't see Buzz's rapid substitutions are random or made up. They said the Freshman struggle with it but they will also get it.
On another note ...
Dawson's nickname is "John John"
Wilson's nickname is "Ye ye" (did not say why)Derrick called him the most positive guy on the team.
Jujuan Johnson is "JJ" or J-five. He is the team comedian
Derrick said Juan Anderson is a "Ladies man." Derrick teased him saying he's not really a ladies man, he just thinks he is.
Derrick said Jake Thomas is the "most mature" guy on the team. They also said they both wished he took more shots. They also agreed he makes "the hard shots" and often misses the easy ones.
They said Steve Taylor loves to eat, and mostly Cheeseburgers, rings and fries. No salads for him.
Detonte Burton they call him Devo or "bully ball" devo was a "bully chacater from a 1990s movie.
Chris Otule constantly sings. They have to tell him to shut up., Otule thinks he will get a Grammy one day but they tell him it will not happen
Devante Gardner, Derrick said he is very quiet and the easiest to make laugh.
Nothing on Mayo??
Sorry, I forgot to note that.
He is Mr. Fashion. If you need advice on what to wear, when to wear things, he's your man.
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 13, 2014, 03:24:52 PM
Sorry, I forgot to note that.
He is Mr. Fashion. If you need advice on what to wear, when to wear things, he's your man.
Figured Buzz would be Mr. Fashion
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 13, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
Detonte Burton they call him Devo or "bully ball" devo was a "bully chacater from a 1990s movie.
I assume they were saying Deebo, the character from Friday.
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Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 13, 2014, 03:40:26 PM
I assume they were saying Deebo, the character from Friday.
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That is hilarious!
NERS can't understand why Dawson didn't get Derrick's airtime on the show. Because Derrick spoke clearly in sentences, but it wasn't poetry. One time, NERS heard Dawson quoting scripture, but the way he did it made NERS sure that John was a better speaker and he is going to spend 500 posts trying to convince us.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 13, 2014, 03:40:26 PM
I assume they were saying Deebo, the character from Friday.
(http://prisonworldblogtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/TinyLister1.jpg)
Yes, that's it (I did not see the movie so I was guessing at what they were saying)
Quote from: tower912 on February 13, 2014, 03:48:41 PM
NERS can't understand why Dawson didn't get Derrick's airtime on the show.
Or go to Derrick's classes. Or date Derrick's girlfriend.
http://www.youtube.com/v/VCojia6LJ2c
So wait....Buzz isn't crushing the morale of his players with his rapid substitutions???
So confused...
Quote from: The Sultan of Serenity on February 13, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
So wait....Buzz isn't crushing the morale of his players with his rapid substitutions???
So confused...
Do you honestly think they would ever admit that. He also said the freshman don't understand it and I'm sure they are less than thrilled with it.
Why do posters get mad about the Derrick/Dawson debate being brought up all the time? It appears to me that even when nobody is talking about this in a thread one of the pro Derrick supporters takes little potshots at people. If you want the debate to go away quit playing little child's games and making snide remarks or quit complaining when your boy gets ripped on here. It's really pathetic.
Quote from: tower912 on February 13, 2014, 03:48:41 PM
NERS can't understand why Dawson didn't get Derrick's airtime on the show. Because Derrick spoke clearly in sentences, but it wasn't poetry. One time, NERS heard Dawson quoting scripture, but the way he did it made NERS sure that John was a better speaker and he is going to spend 500 posts trying to convince us.
Lol...nice Tower. I'd love nothing more than for Derrick to put us on his back and will us to win, and guide us into the NCAA tourney...I'd gladly eat that crap burger...it it were to happen...but I expect the same 5.2ppg, 4 apg, 3.5 rpg, on poor shooting percentages from everywhere - 3, 2 and 1 - in 29.5 minutes....and no wins over Top 25 teams to continue..from here on out. Hate to be so pessimistic...but just know it is virtually impossible to score wins against Top 50 teams with such a deficit at PG.
Quote from: mubuzz on February 13, 2014, 04:28:23 PM
Why do posters get mad about the Derrick/Dawson debate being brought up all the time? It appears to me that even when nobody is talking about this in a thread one of the pro Derrick supporters takes little potshots at people. If you want the debate to go away quit playing little child's games and making snide remarks or quit complaining when your boy gets ripped on here. It's really pathetic.
+1000
Quote from: mubuzz on February 13, 2014, 04:17:46 PM
Do you honestly think they would ever admit that. He also said the freshman don't understand it and I'm sure they are less than thrilled with it.
Who cares if they don't understand it? They are the ones that need to adjust. And if they want to play at the next level - guess what, they are going to have to adjust again.
Quote from: brandx on February 13, 2014, 04:44:42 PM
Who cares if they don't understand it? They are the ones that need to adjust. And if they want to play at the next level - guess what, they are going to have to adjust again.
You might not care and a lot of other people might not care. This isn't 70's and 80's where players were just happy to be a part of a program. That is why the transfer rate is so high in college basketball. They don't need to adjust...if they don't like it they will just leave, happens all the time.
Quote from: mubuzz on February 13, 2014, 04:53:16 PM
You might not care and a lot of other people might not care. This isn't 70's and 80's where players were just happy to be a part of a program. That is why the transfer rate is so high in college basketball. They don't need to adjust...if they don't like it they will just leave, happens all the time.
Let 'em go and they can be the next coaches problem.
Quote from: mubuzz on February 13, 2014, 04:53:16 PM
You might not care and a lot of other people might not care. This isn't 70's and 80's where players were just happy to be a part of a program. That is why the transfer rate is so high in college basketball. They don't need to adjust...if they don't like it they will just leave, happens all the time.
How many of our transferees have moved to better programs? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Those that have the maturity to understand what Buzz is doing won't transfer.
Quote from: mubuzz on February 13, 2014, 04:17:46 PM
Do you honestly think they would ever admit that. He also said the freshman don't understand it and I'm sure they are less than thrilled with it.
Yes they are not going to say they don't like it. But I assume they didn't know that Homer was going to ask about it (as it seemed to come up in a stream of consciousness way) and they seemed very natural in their answers ... like they were not covering up but giving you an honest off the top of their head answer.
Derrick said everyone that gets recruited at MU's level is a star in HS and plays every minute they can. So any substitutions is a new thing for them.
Rapid substitutions are just another thing for them to learn, like paint touches, not practicing FTs (how many years did we whine about that around here?) and "turkeys."
One more thing, Derrick and Juan said Vander does a perfect impression of Buzz. Would love to see a youtube of that.
NERS, thank you for taking it in the vein it was intended. To be fair to you, I am reading anything you post in this thread, since I took that shot.
Quote from: mubuzz on February 13, 2014, 04:28:23 PM
Why do posters get mad about the Derrick/Dawson debate being brought up all the time? It appears to me that even when nobody is talking about this in a thread one of the pro Derrick supporters takes little potshots at people. If you want the debate to go away quit playing little child's games and making snide remarks or quit complaining when your boy gets ripped on here. It's really pathetic.
Spot on.
Quote from: mu-rara on February 13, 2014, 05:04:02 PM
How many of our transferees have moved to better programs? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Those that have the maturity to understand what Buzz is doing won't transfer.
While I agree with what you are saying, how many transfers in general move on to a better program than the one they left? My guess would be the majority of players who transfer take a step down.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 13, 2014, 04:09:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/VCojia6LJ2c
I watched this ... He looks like Burton
Quote from: tower912 on February 13, 2014, 05:16:34 PM
NERS, thank you for taking it in the vein it was intended. To be fair to you, I am reading anything you post in this thread, since I took that shot.
No worries Tower...it was funny...yet to Mubuzz's point...there are also times where I don't bring the topic up and others do...
I've long respected you as a poster, and still do, even though we certainly disagree over the topic of Derrick. I've probably been too harsh/hard on him...as obviously he is doing his best and is a great kid...just feel he's better suited to be a backup...and think Dawson could have given us a better chance to win at this point if he'd been groomed dating back to early non-conference.
As I said though...would be thrilled if the team makes NCAA and if Derrick plays a big part in that...just not holding out hope..
Quote from: mubuzz on February 13, 2014, 04:28:23 PM
Why do posters get mad about the Derrick/Dawson debate being brought up all the time? It appears to me that even when nobody is talking about this in a thread one of the pro Derrick supporters takes little potshots at people. If you want the debate to go away quit playing little child's games and making snide remarks or quit complaining when your boy gets ripped on here. It's really pathetic.
For about a week before the Seton Hall game, Ners had decided to tone it down with the debate. During that time, the board was a lovely place - talking about Big East recruiting, Stone, etc - and no one was playing child's game or making snide remarks. Hours after the SHU game, one where I'm sure everyone assumed the debate wouldn't be brought up again d/t the outcome of the game, Ners was back at it - going so far as to post pictures from the game and using "#12" to reference Derrick instead of his actual name. At that point, the games/remarks began - and I personally believe they were a little justified.
But I agree. Let's dispense with the multiple new posts over the same subject and dispense with the remarks.
Quote from: Ners on February 13, 2014, 05:54:49 PM
No worries Tower...it was funny...yet to Mubuzz's point...there are also times where I don't bring the topic up and others do...
I've long respected you as a poster, and still do, even though we certainly disagree over the topic of Derrick. I've probably been too harsh/hard on him...as obviously he is doing his best and is a great kid...just feel he's better suited to be a backup...and think Dawson could have given us a better chance to win at this point if he'd been groomed dating back to early non-conference.
As I said though...would be thrilled if the team makes NCAA and if Derrick plays a big part in that...just not holding out hope..
Honestly, I do think Dawson's ceiling is higher than Derrick and have said so many times before. I don't know if even playing him 20min/game all the way from the beginning of the season would have gotten him to the level Derrick's at currently. No one can know that. But, regardless, Buzz chose not to do that. And, because of that decision, I think the comparison of them at their current level right now, Derrick is, for better or worse, our best chance; unfortunate as that may be.
Quote from: mubuzz on February 13, 2014, 04:28:23 PM
Why do posters get mad about the Derrick/Dawson debate being brought up all the time? It appears to me that even when nobody is talking about this in a thread one of the pro Derrick supporters takes little potshots at people. If you want the debate to go away quit playing little child's games and making snide remarks or quit complaining when your boy gets ripped on here. It's really pathetic.
You mean like the Sultan of Slurpery above did?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
You mean like the Sultan of Slurpery above did?
Where? One post in this thread, and neither are mentioned.
Quote from: Ners on February 13, 2014, 04:33:36 PM
Lol...nice Tower. I'd love nothing more than for Derrick to put us on his back and will us to win, and guide us into the NCAA tourney...I'd gladly eat that crap burger...it it were to happen...but I expect the same 5.2ppg, 4 apg, 3.5 rpg, on poor shooting percentages from everywhere - 3, 2 and 1 - in 29.5 minutes....and no wins over Top 25 teams to continue..from here on out. Hate to be so pessimistic...but just know it is virtually impossible to score wins against Top 50 teams with such a deficit at PG.
I think you could argue that this happen the last game. Seton Hall intentionally fouled him with about 2 minutes to go and he swished both free throws and went 1-2 a little while later. He also had one basket on an assist from Jamil. He had another basket in second half, but I do not remember when. However, in the last three minutes he scored 5 points, which kept Seton Hall from getting back in the game. Besides that he is averaging more than 5.2 points in Big East play. His numbers have gone up during Big East season, showing that he continues to improve.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
You mean like the Sultan of Slurpery above did?
Aren't you the guy that whines about name calling?
Quote from: mubuzz on February 13, 2014, 04:53:16 PM
You might not care and a lot of other people might not care. This isn't 70's and 80's where players were just happy to be a part of a program. That is why the transfer rate is so high in college basketball. They don't need to adjust...if they don't like it they will just leave, happens all the time.
If any player leaves because of Buzz's rapid substitution patterns, then they shouldn't be here anyway. And of course the freshmen aren't going to necessarily understand it. It has never happened to them before.
Buzz is going to coach how he is going to coach. Why should he change? He's been successful.
Quote from: BenCat12 on February 13, 2014, 05:47:57 PM
While I agree with what you are saying, how many transfers in general move on to a better program than the one they left? My guess would be the majority of players who transfer take a step down.
There really are three types.
The vast majority are those who leave good programs because they simply aren't as good as advertised. (Jamail, Erick Williams, etc.)
Then there are those who are better than advertised who want to upgrade to a better team. (Trent, Tarik Black from Memphis to Kansas, etc.)
And finally there are those who simply are poor fits or disciplinary problems. (McKay, Reggie Smith, Maymon)
A player like JJJ isn't going to have a high level of major suitors after him IMO. He might be homesick and would rather be closer to home. Perhaps he could go to a place like Alabama, who was the runner up when he chose MU. But that's likely not going to get him into deep tourney runs, etc. I am certainly not saying that Marquette doesn't need him, but right now MU is probably the best program he can play for. And leaving now after investing so much time, when there will be plenty of PT up for grabs next year, is likely not a good decision for him.