= Fewer posters, less trolling, less hyperbole, less screaming, less keyboard experts........ Ahhhhhhhhhh. Enjoying the tranquility.
Stop making so much sense!
I'll have what he's having
you forgot to add = more smugness from tower912...
AHHHHH YESSSS ! ! ! Love it.. The silence in DEAFENING ! ! Even tho i have the NERS da NERD on IGNORE, I don't have to see everyone boxing and quoting his drivel.. DW had a very good game... Heck even 3-4 FT shooting ... 5 BASIC assists and 0 -ZERO- TO's... And JAKE with the BLOCK on SH's 3 pt shooter near the end. SUHHHWEEET Not perfect, but a GOOD WIN ! ! ! GO WARRIORS ! ! !
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
= Fewer posters, less trolling, less hyperbole, less screaming, less keyboard experts........ Ahhhhhhhhhh. Enjoying the tranquility.
Plus, Derrick has put together several nice games- so maybe we won't have that issue here every other day, too. Woo-Hoo!!
Quote from: brandx on February 11, 2014, 09:13:33 PM
Plus, Derrick has put together several nice games- so maybe we won't have that issue here every other day, too. Woo-Hoo!!
Shhhhhhh!! Or just put Ners on IGNORE it will fix it!!
+1.
If anyone wants to hear the bitching, read the game thread prior to Mu's late run.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
= Fewer posters, less trolling, less hyperbole, less screaming, less keyboard experts........ Ahhhhhhhhhh. Enjoying the tranquility.
Could be another reason....like the email I got tonight. "Didn't even know we played tonight, such a lost season".
I know people will pile on him and say he isn't a true fan, but its probably more like 4ever the other day...he just had other priorities.
I didn't get a chance to see any of the game, in meetings all of game. Hopefully can watch it later tonight on DVR.
Nice to hear we won. Some opportunities ahead.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2014, 09:36:57 PM
Could be another reason....like the email I got tonight. "Didn't even know we played tonight, such a lost season".
I know people will pile on him and say he isn't a true fan, but its probably more like 4ever the other day...he just had other priorities.
I didn't get a chance to see any of the game, in meetings all of game. Hopefully can watch it later tonight on DVR.
Nice to hear we won. Some opportunities ahead.
We played well most of the game. Had our normal off dry spell, but D, FT's, and rebounding were all solid. That's why we won even though they shot 48% from 3's - 10 made.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 11, 2014, 08:54:21 PM
you forgot to add = more smugness from tower912...
+1 Still plenty to be concerned about. Apparently some issues just won't get fixed this season. Still nice to see Jamil and Mayo step their play up and a road win is always nice.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2014, 09:36:57 PM
Could be another reason....like the email I got tonight. "Didn't even know we played tonight, such a lost season".
I know people will pile on him and say he isn't a true fan, but its probably more like 4ever the other day...he just had other priorities.
I didn't get a chance to see any of the game, in meetings all of game. Hopefully can watch it later tonight on DVR.
Nice to hear we won. Some opportunities ahead.
I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand, yes, it's easy to pile on and claim he isn't a true fan. On the other hand, different people weigh priorities differently.
I guess my question would be this (and i'm fully aware you can't answer for that person): if Marquette had 2, 3, 4 losses on the year so far, would this person be making it a priority to watch the game/team? I don't question other people's fanhood, or at least i try not to. but at the same time, it kinda annoys me that people only put more priority on their supposed team when they're successful. That's when it's easy to be a fan, IMO.
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 11, 2014, 09:48:11 PM
I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand, yes, it's easy to pile on and claim he isn't a true fan. On the other hand, different people weigh priorities differently.
I guess my question would be this (and i'm fully aware you can't answer for that person): if Marquette had 2, 3, 4 losses on the year so far, would this person be making it a priority to watch the game/team? I don't question other people's fanhood, or at least i try not to. but at the same time, it kinda annoys me that people only put more priority on their supposed team when they're successful. That's when it's easy to be a fan, IMO.
Yeah, I think it depends on what peoples priorities are. For me I see pretty much every game no matter what. Only a few conflicts that get in the way.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2014, 09:36:57 PM
Could be another reason....like the email I got tonight. "Didn't even know we played tonight, such a lost season".
I know people will pile on him and say he isn't a true fan, but its probably more like 4ever the other day...he just had other priorities.
I didn't get a chance to see any of the game, in meetings all of game. Hopefully can watch it later tonight on DVR.
Nice to hear we won. Some opportunities ahead.
By definition, your email friend isn't much of a fan. I mean, I've been a fan for 48 years and I've NEVER not known when, where and whom we were playing. Believe me, Ners, Dreadman, Willie, etc. know we played tonight but without Buzz or Derrick to rip or one (or more) of the freshmen to champion it's just no fun for them.
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 11, 2014, 09:48:11 PM
I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand, yes, it's easy to pile on and claim he isn't a true fan. On the other hand, different people weigh priorities differently.
I guess my question would be this (and i'm fully aware you can't answer for that person): if Marquette had 2, 3, 4 losses on the year so far, would this person be making it a priority to watch the game/team? I don't question other people's fanhood, or at least i try not to. but at the same time, it kinda annoys me that people only put more priority on their supposed team when they're successful. That's when it's easy to be a fan, IMO.
Anyone can jump on or off a bandwagon - that's not what real fans do.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2014, 09:53:53 PM
Anyone can jump on or off a bandwagon - that's not what real fans do.
+1
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 11, 2014, 09:48:11 PM
I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand, yes, it's easy to pile on and claim he isn't a true fan. On the other hand, different people weigh priorities differently.
I guess my question would be this (and i'm fully aware you can't answer for that person): if Marquette had 2, 3, 4 losses on the year so far, would this person be making it a priority to watch the game/team? I don't question other people's fanhood, or at least i try not to. but at the same time, it kinda annoys me that people only put more priority on their supposed team when they're successful. That's when it's easy to be a fan, IMO.
I don't know the root of his decision, but if I had to guess as the losses piled on, whatever other engagement he had tonight probably became a much easier decision. Or, he just forgot. If we only had a few wins, he's probably more excited about the upcoming game, top of mind, knows it is coming up, doesn't schedule another event, etc. Just a guess. In many ways, no different than attendance for teams that struggle to meet expectations? Seats that were filled in the beginning, not as much as you go through the season...people opting to do something else I suppose. Not much difference. Different strokes for different folks.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
I don't know the root of his decision, but if I had to guess as the losses piled on, whatever other engagement he had tonight probably became a much easier decision. Or, he just forgot. If we only had a few wins, he's probably more excited about the upcoming game, top of mind, knows it is coming up, doesn't schedule another event, etc. Just a guess. In many ways, no different than attendance for teams that struggle to meet expectations? Seats that were filled in the beginning, not as much as you go through the season...people opting to do something else I suppose. Not much difference. Different strokes for different folks.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying he's a bad guy. I have friends who follow MU when they're doing well and not so much when they struggle. I have no problem with that. They would readily acknowledge that they're not real fans. I imagine your friend would, also.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
I don't know the root of his decision
What "decision"? The decision to not even know we had a conference game tonight with our season hanging from a thread? Please. He didn't make a decision to not give a sh$t, he just doesn't.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2014, 10:08:50 PM
What "decision"? The decision to not even know we had a conference game tonight with our season hanging from a thread? Please. He didn't make a decision to not give a sh$t, he just doesn't.
I don't know. He's a fan, did something else....I think if we were doing better he would have taken more notice, remembered it, put it in the calendar, etc. Just a guess. 4ever did the same thing the other day, opted for something else....don't think anyone here would say 4ever isn't a fan...we all know he is. Watching the first few minutes of this game....yikes...looks like Seton Hall fans certainly decided to do something else. Attendance = not good.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2014, 10:14:44 PM
I don't know. He's a fan, did something else....I think if we were doing better he would have taken more notice, remembered it, put it in the calendar, etc. Just a guess. 4ever did the same thing the other day, opted for something else....don't think anyone here would say 4ever isn't a fan...we all know he is. Watching the first few minutes of this game....yikes...looks like Seton Hall fans certainly decided to do something else. Attendance = not good.
You're backtracking. 4ever may get fed up, take a game off, whatever. I'd be shocked if he didn't even know we were playing a conference game like your friend. Again, not saying your buddy isn't a good guy or that he wants MU to lose or anything like that. But he's not much of a fan (IMO) if he doesn't even know we're playing with the season hanging in the balance.
I was at the game tonight in Newark and can report that this is a real team and we have some really smooth shooters. We out hustled Seton Hall, were well balanced, and showed the confidence of a mature team. Seton Hall fans are very down on their team and coach, but had many loyal fans nonetheless. Even ran into an MU fan from 1972 night school, wearing a Warrior sweat shirt, with his extended family, which qualifies as a real fan in my book.
Looks like the Seton Hall fans can bitch instead
http://setonhall.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=330&tid=171096642&mid=171096642&sid=959&style=2
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2014, 11:25:09 PM
Looks like the Seton Hall fans can bitch instead
http://setonhall.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=330&tid=171096642&mid=171096642&sid=959&style=2
Q:What do all those Seton Hall fans have in common?
A:1.They're all disappointed. 2.they knew their team had a game tonight,
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 11, 2014, 08:54:21 PM
you forgot to add = more smugness from tower912...
Guilty. And still enjoying it.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2014, 09:51:43 PM
By definition, your email friend isn't much of a fan. I mean, I've been a fan for 48 years and I've NEVER not known when, where and whom we were playing. Believe me, Ners, Dreadman, Willie, etc. know we played tonight but without Buzz or Derrick to rip or one (or more) of the freshmen to champion it's just no fun for them.
Yeah, I knew we played tonight, Lenny, and we finally played fairly well on the road. Not a quality win, but a nice one. And it was fun, Lenny. And guess what Lenny, even though I am not "ripping" Buzz here, there is always you to rip, as you were wrong on one of the two postulations you made above. By the way Lenny, what is more fun for you: ripping a player, ripping the Coach, or ripping fellow fans? Just asking.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2014, 10:04:25 PM
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying he's a bad guy. I have friends who follow MU when they're doing well and not so much when they struggle. I have no problem with that. They would readily acknowledge that they're not real fans. I imagine your friend would, also.
Yes, that is right. Lenny is the sole arbiter of who/what defines a "real fan".
Based on what I watched (delayed)...really good first 10 minutes...bad next 10....bad next 10....strong last 10.
Overall, road win...good stuff. Still need 40 minutes of consistency. Will need to play much better to beat Xavier and\or Creighton.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 12, 2014, 06:23:57 AM
Yeah, I knew we played tonight, Lenny, and we finally played fairly well on the road. Not a quality win, but a nice one. And it was fun, Lenny. And guess what Lenny, even though I am not "ripping" Buzz here, there is always you to rip, as you were wrong on one of the two postulations you made above. By the way Lenny, what is more fun for you: ripping a player, ripping the Coach, or ripping fellow fans? Just asking.
You know, Willie, even when you're having "fun" you seem angry. To answer your question, I'd prefer not to rip any of those groups but will if it is appropriate. Players who don't go to class or behave badly, coaches who are phonies or incompetent, fans who are spoiled and entitled all deserve a ripping.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 12, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
Based on what I watched (delayed)...really good first 10 minutes...bad next 10....bad next 10....strong last 10.
Overall, road win...good stuff. Still need 40 minutes of consistency. Will need to play much better to beat Xavier and\or Creighton.
I would say our only really bad minutes were the last 10 in the first half when Derrick was on the bench and we frequently turned the ball over. In the first 10 minutes of the second half we weren't so bad - Seton Hall just couldn't miss. Happens, especially on the road. I thought we showed great heart playing through it.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2014, 10:21:22 PM
You're backtracking. 4ever may get fed up, take a game off, whatever. I'd be shocked if he didn't even know we were playing a conference game like your friend. Again, not saying your buddy isn't a good guy or that he wants MU to lose or anything like that. But he's not much of a fan (IMO) if he doesn't even know we're playing with the season hanging in the balance.
Oh, he's definitely a fan. Puts a lot of money into seats, donations, etc. I suspect he knew we were playing this week, just forgot what date and because we've been meandering probably didn't get him to focus in on the game date \ time. You get a little more amped up when things are going well. This is why tv ratings and attendance (actual butts in seats, not tickets purchased as many are purchased prior to season) decline for teams that are supposed to do well, but end up struggling....people find other things to do. Human nature.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2014, 11:40:44 PM
Q:What do all those Seton Hall fans have in common?
A:1.They're all disappointed. 2.they knew their team had a game tonight,
Yes, the ones that participated in that forum...we call that self selection.
Looking at all the empty seats there, I suspect they are also fans, may have shown up for other games this year, but decided last night they had something else to do.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 12, 2014, 09:39:28 AM
I would say our only really bad minutes were the last 10 in the first half when Derrick was on the bench and we frequently turned the ball over. In the first 10 minutes of the second half we weren't so bad - Seton Hall just couldn't miss. Happens, especially on the road. I thought we showed great heart playing through it.
I'm not being negative with what I'm about to say, but to me Jamil Wilson had his best ten minutes of his career to open the game and Derrick, Jake and every other player that played with him that stretch benefited from his stellar performance as to how it appeared they looked on the court.
Derrick got two quick first half fouls and is forced to sit. What ensued was the collective 'Marquette can't buy a bucket for extended time' that happens EVERY game whether he's on the floor or not. Let's be honest: Derrick Wilson is not a shooter and therefore he has very little control, positively or negatively, over when and for how long our scoring droughts last.
I don't care how well coached these kids are or how long they've been playing elite level basketball through their years but when everything is falling for the other team and nothing is going in for your team more mistakes are made compounding the problem.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2014, 09:36:57 PM
Could be another reason....like the email I got tonight. "Didn't even know we played tonight, such a lost season".
I know people will pile on him and say he isn't a true fan, but its probably more like 4ever the other day...he just had other priorities.
I didn't get a chance to see any of the game, in meetings all of game. Hopefully can watch it later tonight on DVR.
Nice to hear we won. Some opportunities ahead.
Okay loyalty check time!
Do you see all or almost all of Marquette's games?
Do you see all or almost all of Indiana's games?
Do you see all or almost all of Kansas' games?
If your answer is yes to all three of the above, how often does your family try to hold basketball viewing interventions?
Quote from: mattyv1908 on February 12, 2014, 11:55:07 AM
Let's be honest: Derrick Wilson is not a shooter and therefore he has very little control, positively or negatively, over when and for how long our scoring droughts last.
Huh? When 1 out of 5 players especially your point guard can't shoot and the defense is able to sag into the interior, that defintiely has a negative impact on scoring. I'm not singling out Wilson, this applies to any point guard who can't shoot nor drive proficiently.
lol funniest thing on there board is the thread asking when the BE will step in and fire Willard. lol.
Questioning my level of being a fan a tad this year. Have stayed away from BC, with exception of two games and not missing it. That said, I have watched 95% of every game when I have been in the country. My question lays in why I am watching the games. For the first time in many years I do not have that warm feeling a fan gets about his team.
I guess my love of MU and the program has kept me engaged, even more so than I would like to engaged in it. When all is said and done I hope the fella's prove me wrong and play well the next month. Long, crappy winter and fair basketball and zapped my excitement level to some degree.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 12, 2014, 09:32:10 AM
You know, Willie, even when you're having "fun" you seem angry. To answer your question, I'd prefer not to rip any of those groups but will if it is appropriate. Players who don't go to class or behave badly, coaches who are phonies or incompetent, fans who are spoiled and entitled all deserve a ripping.
OK Lenny--of course you get to determine who to rip--just like I do. "spoiled" fans and "entitled" fans are your opinion, which count no more than my opinion or anybody else's here. So you rip who you believe deserves it, and so will I. "Seem angry" from something on a board sure is objective. You seem angry in your response, even when you are having "fun" but hey, I could be wrong.
Quote from: LittleMurs on February 12, 2014, 12:05:01 PM
Okay loyalty check time!
Do you see all or almost all of Marquette's games?
Do you see all or almost all of Indiana's games?
Do you see all or almost all of Kansas' games?
If your answer is yes to all three of the above, how often does your family try to hold basketball viewing interventions?
I see 98% of MU games (I can think of one that I missed in the last few years and it was a cupcake and once I saw the score, I didn't bother on DVR). I see probably 50% of IU games....probably 20% of KU games. Probably see more UCLA games than KU, though some of that is actually attending in person. Like Saturday I'll be at the Utah game.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 12, 2014, 04:25:42 PM
I see 98% of MU games (I can think of one that I missed in the last few years and it was a cupcake and once I saw the score, I didn't bother on DVR). I see probably 50% of IU games....probably 20% of KU games. Probably see more UCLA games than KU, though some of that is actually attending in person. Like Saturday I'll be at the Utah game.
The secret to serenity/sanity would be to reverse those percentages for the remainder of this year. 20% MU, keep IU at 50%, and up Kansas to 98%. That'll be $150, please. Good to know that you've stuck (mostly) to your first love.
I find your lack of response to my question regarding your family scheduling a basketball viewing intervention, most interesting. Let's schedule another appointment, shall we?
Quote from: Goose on February 12, 2014, 12:52:49 PM
Questioning my level of being a fan a tad this year. Have stayed away from BC, with exception of two games and not missing it. That said, I have watched 95% of every game when I have been in the country. My question lays in why I am watching the games. For the first time in many years I do not have that warm feeling a fan gets about his team.
I guess my love of MU and the program has kept me engaged, even more so than I would like to engaged in it. When all is said and done I hope the fella's prove me wrong and play well the next month. Long, crappy winter and fair basketball and zapped my excitement level to some degree.
Goose: You have seemed down this year. Hope the team does what it needs to get you back in full form for the stretch!
Apparently, a home win has the same effect. Ahhhhhhhhhhh. Smug 'til morning.