It seems like there was some interest in producing some MUScoop Tees, so I'd like to get peoples opinions, and harness the creative powers of the 'Scoop community.
As opposed to just a bland weekend shirt, I'd like to throw out the idea of a designer tee instead. I think it'd look super sharp, and show that we've got more personality at MUScoop than your average website. 'Course that's just my preference. Regardless, there's still all sorts of things to consider, so I'd like use this thread to consolidate thoughts on:
- Colors to use?
- Any images/themes we should use (or not use)?
- Creative text/taglines?
- Whatever else you would like to add...
Our resident wallpaper expert - Jon Custodio aka MUCrew has offered to help with the design of the shirt. All he's asked in return, is that if you need any custom wallpapers or shirts for your business/organization (heck, even personal use) consider him for the job. You've already seen his quality work, and you're supporting an MU grad at the same time :)
Color: Gotta be predominantly gold... these should be able to double as game shirts
was thinking a schedule on back or something but that would be less of a designer type and more of a weekend type shirt so nix that.
1.) No Yellow Shirts. Grrr...so many yellow shirts. But they look good in the BC. It's a toss-up!
2.) No 'Ringer" style shirts.
3.) A large makeup of the logo would be cool on the front.
4.) Maybe offer names/numbers on the back for additional $$?
5.) A phrase on the back would be great, something very scoopish.
"Your number one source for Marquette University information."
"Come see how good our Wiki looks"
"Cracked Sidewalks, French pastries, and Marquette Hoops."
"Where Marquette Fanatics never graduate."
"The Iron Chefs of Marquette Hoops"
Quote from: marqptm on October 26, 2007, 01:36:56 PM
1.) No Yellow Shirts. Grrr...so many yellow shirts. But they look good in the BC. It's a toss-up!
I somewhat agree on the too many yellow shirts.. but make this one distinctive a little.. Yellow body, blue sleeves maybe? or maybe just a wide blue stripe down the sleeve and around the bottom of the body?
I'd say in my four years here I've accquired roughly 20 gold t-shirts. As good as they look in the BC I would prefer something that wasn't all gold.
I like Spiral's idea of adding blue to the sleeves or somewhere on the shirt.
I know the consensus seems to be along the lines of a designer shirt but I think it would be cool to pattern the design after a retro uniform. (Bumble bee unis?) You know something that is genuinely marquette and actually some of the "ugly" retro jerseys are now in fashion. Like the Old Padre uniforms, the old White Sox unis, etc..
I like the saying "Where Marquette Fanatics Never Graduate" because, let's be honest, it's true :-p
What do you think about this shirt style...too sporty?
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gr155pwj0.jpg
Quote from: marqptm on October 26, 2007, 01:36:56 PM
2.) No 'Ringer" style shirts.
5.) A phrase on the back would be great, something very scoopish.
"Where Marquette Fanatics never graduate."
+1 Vote
I would just worry about the costs rising too much of shirt that is part blue, and the quality of the shirts unless they were custom made and stitched.
How about instead of 'gold' we get yellow instead. Like a true yellow, not orange-yellow. Yellow. They match outfits so much better.
I like MUCrew's shirts. A little Charger-esque though. Could the colors be inverted?
How about a Letterman top ten on the back
Top 10 reasons for visiting MUScoop daily
1. Where Marquette Fanatics never graduate.
2. Daily Sumurfluous explanations of of player and coaching capabilities
3. PRN....not
4. best thing since closing the Gym and staggering in for a bowl of the Real
5. etc
Quote from: muarmy81 on October 26, 2007, 01:52:22 PM
I know the consensus seems to be along the lines of a designer shirt but I think it would be cool to pattern the design after a retro uniform. (Bumble bee unis?) You know something that is genuinely marquette and actually some of the "ugly" retro jerseys are now in fashion. Like the Old Padre uniforms, the old White Sox unis, etc..
I like this idea. Take the jersey below and replace Marquette with MU Scoop. You could also replace the number with the MU Scoop warrior face logo. And of course make it a jersey t-shirt.
(http://wiki.muscoop.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/the_marquette_jersey_project/retromarq-74.jpg?cache=cache)
and on the back put your muscoop member id number :D
Tshirts are a very good idea...I actually love the idea.
In terms of color, even though many of you hate yellow, it attracts the most attention. I like the top ten list and the slogan "Where Marquette Fanatics never graduate." Lots of possibilities.
Something slimming. And since I am balding as well as fat, ballcaps. I would love it if we could play off the new "retro" jersey.
Hmm .. almost seems like we should do a cafepress store, t-shirts, and hats, yadda yadda?
Got to go with the baby blue. The site's color has baby blue in it and our past uniforms had the color as well. It should be similar to the ones handed out when we played Pitt in the last home game of 06-07 season.
MU Scoop: Where Kool-Aid is not the beverage of choice
I opt for a golf/polo style shirt in navy with gold detail and lettering. It has to include Warriors on the sleeve or collar and Willie Wampum over the heart.
Mucrew i think that t-shirt is really sharp i would definitely by one of tose with a sharp desoign/logo
Quote from: MUCrew on October 26, 2007, 01:53:49 PM
I like the saying "Where Marquette Fanatics Never Graduate" because, let's be honest, it's true :-p
What do you think about this shirt style...too sporty?
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gr155pwj0.jpg
I like that shirt... I might even wear it outside the house!!
Quote from: spiral97 on October 26, 2007, 01:34:23 PM
Color: Gotta be predominantly gold... these should be able to double as game shirts
was thinking a schedule on back or something but that would be less of a designer type and more of a weekend type shirt so nix that.
Agreed about the colour being Gold. Maybe this would be an opportunity to come up with a cool MUScoop logo, and the shirt simply being Gold with the new logo on the front in Marquette Blue?
The letters MU Scoop with the two o's in Scoop, easily lends itself to using the "oo" as either basketballs or basketball hoops. That could lead to a cool logo.
It would be cool to have and wear these shirts at games, making it easy to identify our fellow "MU Scoopers". Of course, the next logical step will include the creation of a secret hand-shake. ;D
We can be like the masons! (Not Dameon, the conspiratorial types)
Quote from: spiral97 on October 26, 2007, 02:27:11 PM
and on the back put your muscoop member id number :D
Word.
How about: "MUScoop - Where once and future Warriors gather" ?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 27, 2007, 11:11:16 AM
Quote from: spiral97 on October 26, 2007, 02:27:11 PM
and on the back put your muscoop member id number :D
Word.
How about: "MUScoop - Where once and future Warriors gather" ?
Not to stir up the whole debate, but I think it is fair to say that there are some who would want shirts with a Warrior reference and some that would not. Given that, it seems to me that it would be best to do something "neutral."
Putting "Warriors" on the sleeve would be a nice compromise.
I for one, would very much like to see "Warriors" somewhere on the shirt.
Quote from: spiral97 on October 26, 2007, 02:27:11 PM
and on the back put your muscoop member id number :D
Or member name. mosarsour on the back of an MU Scoop shirt/jersey intrigues me a bit. But then again I am a jersey freak.
Oh yeah and please bigger sizes. I'm not trying to squeeze my fat ass into an XL or an undersized XXL (like the new jerseys!) They won't even allow me to special order a bigger size! I was so pissed!!!! >:(
alright someone work on some mock up designs, put it to a vote, and we can get our orders in ;D
Warriors on one sleeve. Golden Eagles on the other!
waiting.....waiting.....
a quick little mock up from customink.com and editing in Paint
(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/93/muscooptshirtyq3.th.png) (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=muscooptshirtyq3.png)
Quote from: marqptm on October 27, 2007, 04:07:43 PM
Warriors on one sleeve. Golden Eagles on the other!
waiting.....waiting.....
No eagles...i won't buy it. if it doesn't have eagles on it i will but no eagles...and its me, not even PRN busting that line out
Quote from: muwarrior87 on October 27, 2007, 04:17:05 PM
Quote from: marqptm on October 27, 2007, 04:07:43 PM
Warriors on one sleeve. Golden Eagles on the other!
waiting.....waiting.....
No eagles...i won't buy it. if it doesn't have eagles on it i will but no eagles...and its me, not even PRN busting that line out
My point was that some feel that way about the GE and some feel that way about Warriors. Given than, we should stick to a "neutral" shirt that references MU Scoop and Marquette basketball.
Neutral. It's MUScoop. Not an MU shirt.
definitely neutral
Thoughts?
"A Little Bit of Marquette History:
Hilltoppers 1917-1954
(Golden Avalanche 1924-1937)
Warriors 1954-1994
Golden Eagles 1994-2004
Gold Summer 2004
Golden Eagles 2004-present
Our names may change, but our site won't:
MUSCOOP.COM"
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 27, 2007, 06:27:12 PM
Thoughts?
"A Little Bit of Marquette History:
Hilltoppers 1917-1954
(Golden Avalanche 1924-1937)
Warriors 1954-1994
Golden Eagles 1994-2004
Gold Summer 2004
Golden Eagles 2004-present
That's pretty good, actually. One thing to keep in mind is that shirts with stuff on the front and back are really expensive as opposed to lettering just on the front. I'm partial to the shirt with the "MUScoop" in the same lettering as the retro-jersey on a gold t-shirt.
Our names may change, but our site won't:
MUSCOOP.COM"
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 27, 2007, 06:27:12 PM
Thoughts?
"A Little Bit of Marquette History:
Hilltoppers 1917-1954
(Golden Avalanche 1924-1937)
Warriors 1954-1994
Golden Eagles 1994-2004
Gold Summer 2004
Golden Eagles 2004-present
Our names may change, but our site won't:
MUSCOOP.COM"
How about that goes on the back, and on the front you do it like the retro jersey? I don't know what number you want to use though (maybe 77 or 3?)
I'm not good with designs, but I say use the new "MU" logo and add Scoop to it.
(Will MU really come after us if we did that?)
(http://photo.stamps.com/web/images/catalog/clc/small/marquette_logo_small.gif)Scoop.com
Any news on these? I'd be willing to sit in a MuScoop shirt committee for ideas, or something. This would be a real cool thing, and blow the MarquetteHoops.com windbreakers out of the water.
If anyone wants to play around with t-shirt ideas here is a pretty cool t-shirt creator.
http://www.customink.com/lab/?PK=06128 (http://www.customink.com/lab/?PK=06128)
Quote from: Avenue Commons on October 27, 2007, 11:24:35 AM
Not to stir up the whole debate, but I think it is fair to say that there are some who would want shirts with a Warrior reference and some that would not. Given that, it seems to me that it would be best to do something "neutral."
How about this...a long sleeve shirt, color either the powder blue (with gold lettering/logos) or gold (with powder or navy blue lettering/logos). Down 1 of the arm sleeves it could say "Warriors" and down the other arm sleeve it could say "Golden Eagles." On the front it could say MU Scoop (and possibly have some sort of logo?) and on the back there could be the Warrior logo and the Golden Eagle logo with a double sided error between them (they could either be above and below each other or next to each other). You could also throw on one of the quotes on the back, such as "Where fanatics never graduate."
Price would probably be the issue here, but I think those would be sweet.
Sorry for stealing some of your ideas...I wrote this after reading the first page and thinking that was the last reply in the topic hah. But I think this would take care of the issue of being neutral.
Any and all Marquette fans should be ashamed to wear something that says "Golden Eagles." It would be like a Frenchman driving a German car.
If you don't agree, you simply don't understand the history.
How about Golden Eagles toilet paper? That way you can put the name to good use!
Here you go PRN... http://www.printedtp.com/
As for the T's, we're still thinking about it/working on it. This thread had a lot of good suggestions. Once we have a design or two, we'll put it out there for opinions.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 28, 2007, 01:57:25 PM
Any and all Marquette fans should be ashamed to wear something that says "Golden Eagles." It would be like a Frenchman driving a German car.
If you don't agree, you simply don't understand the history.
How about Golden Eagles toilet paper? That way you can put the name to good use!
We get it, you don't like the nickname. Personally, I don't particullarly care for it either and don't buy stuff with it on. But the powers that be have said it is not going to change so give it a fuc$ing rest!!!!!!
To insult others that actually like the Golden Eagle or don't identify with the Warrior is crude. Couldn't you, for once, be tactful and state something like: I would prefer that the t-shirt did not have Golden Eagles written on it or that logo as I do not particullarly care for it.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 28, 2007, 01:57:25 PM
Any and all Marquette fans should be ashamed to wear something that says "Golden Eagles." It would be like a Frenchman driving a German car.
If you don't agree, you simply don't understand the history.
How about Golden Eagles toilet paper? That way you can put the name to good use!
Sheesh. At least you aren't dwelling on it. ::)
Is it fun to be this critical and bitter all of the time?
Quote from: jmayer1 on November 28, 2007, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 28, 2007, 01:57:25 PM
Any and all Marquette fans should be ashamed to wear something that says "Golden Eagles." It would be like a Frenchman driving a German car.
If you don't agree, you simply don't understand the history.
How about Golden Eagles toilet paper? That way you can put the name to good use!
We get it, you don't like the nickname. Personally, I don't particularly care for it either and don't buy stuff with it on. But the powers that be have said it is not going to change so give it a fuc$ing rest!!!!!!
To insult others that actually like the Golden Eagle or don't identify with the Warrior is crude. Couldn't you, for once, be tactful and state something like: I would prefer that the t-shirt did not have Golden Eagles written on it or that logo as I do not particularly care for it.
I agree that sooner or later you will have to let this drop. I also agree with the fact that some people would like a neutral shirt. Personally i will never buy anything with Warriors on it unless it is for my uncles that went to Marquette when they were the warriors. I was a golden eagle and the golden eagles were the team that i followed to the final four. to say that the people that support the golden eagles have no sense of history makes you more ignorant than i thought. i have plenty sense of history, i also have a lot of common sense that says crying on a message board for ever and ever won't get anything changed. so i will forever support the Golden Eagles as that is part of my history.
After all that incase you couldn't tell, i would vote for a neutral shirt.
Quote from: jmayer1 on November 28, 2007, 02:08:17 PM
We get it, you don't like the nickname. Personally, I don't particullarly care for it either and don't buy stuff with it on. But the powers that be have said it is not going to change so give it a fuc$ing rest!!!!!!
To insult others that actually like the Golden Eagle or don't identify with the Warrior is crude. Couldn't you, for once, be tactful and state something like: I would prefer that the t-shirt did not have Golden Eagles written on it or that logo as I do not particullarly care for it.
The "powers at be" have revisited this issue on more than one occasion, have they not? If you agree that a grave injustice was done, why would you simple accept it? That's pathetic.
And, no, I won't be "tactful" about it. Just a couple years ago, more than 90 percent (!) of alumni "identified" with Warriors and more than 60 percent of students...students who were less than 10 years old when the name was stripped away!
You may enjoy having unnatural acts performed on you, but I don't!!
LET'S GO WARRIORS!!!!
As much as I'd like to see "Warriors" on the shirt, having neither nickname is the way to go. Don't want to alienate fellow scoopers.
I'd prefer keeping the shirt as close to a jersey (preferably a retro jersey) as possible. Just replacing the "Marquette" with "MUScoop," having #77, and having your Scoop ID's across the back.
Thanks for the suggestions all. I'm locking this topic as it has served its purpose and is degenerating into a nickname debate. As Rocky said above, we're looking into this and will try to have a design or two out at some point in the (hopefully somewhat near) future.