No surprises. Four Big East teams in, Providence hanging on as an 11 seed. G'Town outside looking in.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
But wait Chicos....MU is not in? That is a surprise.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 12:58:47 PM
No surprises. Four Big East teams in, Providence hanging on as an 11 seed. G'Town outside looking in.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Who the F cares about the NCAA tourney this year?? I for one will not be watching it. Can't remember the last time I didn't take off work to watch games, but I couldn't care less about it this year. MU's season has left me so bitter and pissed off, not to mention them being in this crap conference, it's really ruined college hoops for me. You all enjoy watching the tourney. Whatever floats your boat.
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 05:50:37 PM
Who the F cares about the NCAA tourney this year?? I for one will not be watching it. Can't remember the last time I didn't take off work to watch games, but I couldn't care less about it this year. MU's season has left me so bitter and pissed off, not to mention them being in this crap conference, it's really ruined college hoops for me. You all enjoy watching the tourney. Whatever floats your boat.
You are the worst people.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 03, 2014, 05:40:12 PM
But wait Chicos....MU is not in? That is a surprise.
What exactly did this post contribute to the board?
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 05:50:37 PM
Who the F cares about the NCAA tourney this year?? I for one will not be watching it. Can't remember the last time I didn't take off work to watch games, but I couldn't care less about it this year. MU's season has left me so bitter and pissed off, not to mention them being in this crap conference, it's really ruined college hoops for me. You all enjoy watching the tourney. Whatever floats your boat.
Based on the arrangement of teams this season and next season, where would you have preferred Marquette end up?
Quote from: PTM on February 03, 2014, 06:09:16 PM
You are the worst people.
Thank you for saying it! I just bother with people like that.
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 05:50:37 PM
Who the F cares about the NCAA tourney this year?? I for one will not be watching it. Can't remember the last time I didn't take off work to watch games, but I couldn't care less about it this year. MU's season has left me so bitter and pissed off, not to mention them being in this crap conference, it's really ruined college hoops for me. You all enjoy watching the tourney. Whatever floats your boat.
Jeeze take it easy partner.
This needs to be tacked on the door leading into the team's locker room.
They should know what they're playing for.
If this isn't motivating enough, I don't know what is.
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 03, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Based on the arrangement of teams this season and next season, where would you have preferred Marquette end up?
I would have preferred greed not torn apart the Big east. That's what i would have preferred.
As bad as the overall college basketball product is, I still plan watching. Too many good story lines and fun moments.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 03, 2014, 08:02:16 PM
This needs to be tacked on the door leading into the team's locker room.
They should know what they're playing for.
If this isn't motivating enough, I don't know what is.
I like that idea
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 05:50:37 PM
Who the F cares about the NCAA tourney this year?? I for one will not be watching it. Can't remember the last time I didn't take off work to watch games, but I couldn't care less about it this year. MU's season has left me so bitter and pissed off, not to mention them being in this crap conference, it's really ruined college hoops for me. You all enjoy watching the tourney. Whatever floats your boat.
So I take it you never watched MU when we were in CUSA...or the Great Midwest...or the Horizon League? All of those conferences sucked far more than the one we are in now.
And I'm sick of hearing about how conference realignment ruined college sports for some people. If it weren't for conference realignment, we would have NEVER been invited to a conference called the BiG East.
Quote from: Atticus on February 03, 2014, 09:41:07 PM
So I take it you never watched MU when we were in CUSA...or the Great Midwest...or the Horizon League? All of those conferences sucked far more than the one we are in now.
And I'm sick of hearing about how conference realignment ruined college sports for some people. If it weren't for conference realignment, we would have NEVER been invited to a conference called the BiG East.
Technically, we were in the Midwest Collegiate Conference not the Horizon....though today's Horizon is the spawn of that conference.
Quote from: Atticus on February 03, 2014, 09:41:07 PM
So I take it you never watched MU when we were in CUSA...or the Great Midwest...or the Horizon League? All of those conferences sucked far more than the one we are in now.
And I'm sick of hearing about how conference realignment ruined college sports for some people. If it weren't for conference realignment, we would have NEVER been invited to a conference called the BiG East.
Of course I did. Yeah it's better than those conferences, but not by a whole lot IMO, and it's a HUGE drop off from the old BE. Saying they are in a better conference then where they were 10 years ago is being disingenuous to where they were before they ended up in this conference. it was a HUGE downgrade and anyone that thinks otherwise is full of sh*t. Sure for Butler and Xavier and Creighton it's great....they took a major step upwards. Heck even DePaul fans like this conference better, they are more competitive. MU is probably the one school hurt the most in this conference by the step back. What's even more pathetic, is they can't compete in this conference when in reality, they should be the Memphis of this conference.
Pomeroy Rankings:
11- Missouri- 49
12- Baylor- 54
12- SMU- 28
12- Oregon- 39
12- Stanford- 42
First Four Out
LSU- 53
BYU- 50
Richmond- 67
Ole Miss- 69
Second Four Out
La. Tech- 48
St. Mary's- 70
St. Joe's- 73
Wake Forest- 102
Marquette- 57
Quote from: MUDPT on February 03, 2014, 10:25:28 PM
Pomeroy Rankings:
11- Missouri- 49
12- Baylor- 54
12- SMU- 28
12- Oregon- 39
12- Stanford- 42
First Four Out
LSU- 53
BYU- 50
Richmond- 67
Ole Miss- 69
Second Four Out
La. Tech- 48
St. Mary's- 70
St. Joe's- 73
Wake Forest- 102
Marquette- 57
So...at first glance, I wonder why we arent on the bubble. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't pomeroy only evaluate statistics...and largely ignore who wins and losses games? In other words, the selection committee emphasizes wins and losses....not statistics. Pomeroy does the opposite. Am I wrong?
Quote from: Atticus on February 03, 2014, 10:32:00 PM
So...at first glance, I wonder why we arent on the bubble. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't pomeroy only evaluate statistics...and largely ignore who wins and losses games? In other words, the selection committee emphasizes wins and losses....not statistics. Pomeroy does the opposite. Am I wrong?
The Bracket Matrix is a collection of bracket projections, some good and some not so good. All it takes is for a few brackets to have a team as a 12 or 13 seed and suddenly you're on the bubble. If you look at Wake Forest, three brackets picked them, but two of them were from 4 or 5 days ago....they've lost twice since then. I suspect when those two brackets are updated, they will no longer be considered.
For the record, Wake's RPI is 83 and MU's is 86.
I tend to look at how many brackets pick a team..what the consensus is. Right up until selection show, when you find the teams that are picked 75% to 90%, those usually are your bubble teams, though some have gotten in at lower rates.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 10:51:21 PM
The Bracket Matrix is a collection of bracket projections, some good and some not so good. All it takes is for a few brackets to have a team as a 12 or 13 seed and suddenly you're on the bubble. If you look at Wake Forest, three brackets picked them, but two of them were from 4 or 5 days ago....they've lost twice since then. I suspect when those two brackets are updated, they will no longer be considered.
For the record, Wake's RPI is 83 and MU's is 86.
I tend to look at how many brackets pick a team..what the consensus is. Right up until selection show, when you find the teams that are picked 75% to 90%, those usually are your bubble teams, though some have gotten in at lower rates.
My post was for MUDPT.
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 10:16:44 PM
Of course I did. Yeah it's better than those conferences, but not by a whole lot IMO, and it's a HUGE drop off from the old BE. Saying they are in a better conference then where they were 10 years ago is being disingenuous to where they were before they ended up in this conference. it was a HUGE downgrade and anyone that thinks otherwise is full of sh*t. Sure for Butler and Xavier and Creighton it's great....they took a major step upwards. Heck even DePaul fans like this conference better, they are more competitive. MU is probably the one school hurt the most in this conference by the step back. What's even more pathetic, is they can't compete in this conference when in reality, they should be the Memphis of this conference.
What about the second part of my post? You didn't comment on that. This is where you should say, "if it weren't for conference realignment, we might still be in CUSA. And then I should admit that I would have less to bit€h about."
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 10:16:44 PM
Of course I did. Yeah it's better than those conferences, but not by a whole lot IMO, and it's a HUGE drop off from the old BE. Saying they are in a better conference then where they were 10 years ago is being disingenuous to where they were before they ended up in this conference. it was a HUGE downgrade and anyone that thinks otherwise is full of sh*t. Sure for Butler and Xavier and Creighton it's great....they took a major step upwards. Heck even DePaul fans like this conference better, they are more competitive. MU is probably the one school hurt the most in this conference by the step back. What's even more pathetic, is they can't compete in this conference when in reality, they should be the Memphis of this conference.
So the fact that we are currently ranked by experts as the 4th best conference this season means nothing?
The fact that the BEast is 5-5 this year against the B1G, supposedly the best conference in basketball means nothing?
The fact that the BEast has 14 2014 top 100 players signed for next season, tied for 2nd most of any conference (ACC has 20 with 7 of them going to Duke/UNC. SEC also has 14 with 4 of them going to Kentucky) despite only having 10 teams means nothing?
Is it a step down from the old BEast? Absolutely. But you are making it sound like we joined CUSA or something. Plus, this conference comes with every single game being on national television and getting three times the $$$ we used to. As a fan, I would rather be in the old BEast, but the program is in a much better spot. Unfortunately, this is one of those situations where we can't have our cake and eat it too.
Quote from: g0lden3agle on February 03, 2014, 06:13:39 PM
What exactly did this post contribute to the board?
About as much as yours has. Everybody here in the beginning of the season expected big things for MU. That should be surprising. It is to me.
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 10:16:44 PM
Of course I did. Yeah it's better than those conferences, but not by a whole lot IMO, and it's a HUGE drop off from the old BE. Saying they are in a better conference then where they were 10 years ago is being disingenuous to where they were before they ended up in this conference. it was a HUGE downgrade and anyone that thinks otherwise is full of sh*t. Sure for Butler and Xavier and Creighton it's great....they took a major step upwards. Heck even DePaul fans like this conference better, they are more competitive. MU is probably the one school hurt the most in this conference by the step back. What's even more pathetic, is they can't compete in this conference when in reality, they should be the Memphis of this conference.
Last I looked, BEast was 4th in Conference RPI, ahead of the exalted ACC. So I think you are wrong about our conference. And if as you say, it is a crappy conference, what does that say about MU this year who is wallowing in 6th and fighting to stay out of 8th?
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 05:50:37 PM
Who the F cares about the NCAA tourney this year?? I for one will not be watching it. Can't remember the last time I didn't take off work to watch games, but I couldn't care less about it this year. MU's season has left me so bitter and pissed off, not to mention them being in this crap conference, it's really ruined college hoops for me. You all enjoy watching the tourney. Whatever floats your boat.
Clearly, the only way for you to regain meaning in your life is to never watch Marquette -- or any college basketball -- ever again.
Enjoy Major League Soccer, college wrestling and, especially, some other fan site.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 04, 2014, 01:25:57 AM
So the fact that we are currently ranked by experts as the 4th best conference this season means nothing?
The fact that the BEast is 5-5 this year against the B1G, supposedly the best conference in basketball means nothing?
The fact that the BEast has 14 2014 top 100 players signed for next season, tied for 2nd most of any conference (ACC has 20 with 7 of them going to Duke/UNC. SEC also has 14 with 4 of them going to Kentucky) despite only having 10 teams means nothing?
Is it a step down from the old BEast? Absolutely. But you are making it sound like we joined CUSA or something. Plus, this conference comes with every single game being on national television and getting three times the $$$ we used to. As a fan, I would rather be in the old BEast, but the program is in a much better spot. Unfortunately, this is one of those situations where we can't have our cake and eat it too.
The other part of all the "this conference sucks" talk...what was the alternative. The old BE was not staying together, Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse all left on their own. Unless of course we are advocating some sort of conference held together by Jack Bauer...then I'm totally one of those this conference sucks folks.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 04, 2014, 06:58:02 AM
About as much as yours has. Everybody here in the beginning of the season expected big things for MU. That should be surprising. It is to me.
At least we can agree that your sarcastic shots at the team's performance and those that still believe they can turn it around contributes little to nothing for the board. Must feel good to waste all that free time.
Marquette's play the entire season has been surprising. There is nothing surprising about the fact we're not projected to be in the tournament given our play.
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 08:23:39 PM
I would have preferred greed not torn apart the Big east. That's what i would have preferred.
Ok... well that's not very realistic is it?
Quote from: muguru on February 03, 2014, 05:50:37 PM
Who the F cares about the NCAA tourney this year?? I for one will not be watching it. Can't remember the last time I didn't take off work to watch games, but I couldn't care less about it this year. MU's season has left me so bitter and pissed off, not to mention them being in this crap conference, it's really ruined college hoops for me. You all enjoy watching the tourney. Whatever floats your boat.
you don't want to skip work, drink all day, eat wings and curds, then cap it off at the strip club? And then do it again on Friday?
Dude.