Good game last night.Seymour played well and won by 10.Very well coached team.I believe Cohen should redshirt his first year to gain strength.MU should have enough depth without him.Cody had a tough game,but you can tell he is a shooter.
Totally. I mean it absolutely hurt Kevin Durant his freshman year at Texas cause he lacked strength (couldn't do a single rep of 185 bench).
There is only room in the state for one program that redshirts top 100 kids, unrelated to injuries. If Cohen can play, he can play, regardless of initial strength.
Stephen Curry shoots like a heavyweight and that guy can't carry a bag of balls.
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on January 17, 2014, 09:02:31 AM
Good game last night.Seymour played well and won by 10.Very well coached team.I believe Cohen should redshirt his first year to gain strength.MU should have enough depth without him.Cody had a tough game,but you can tell he is a shooter.
While I agree in principle, this isn't football. You don't redshirt freshmen just because you can get by without them. You don't want to become the program that redshirts all their freshmen
if he can shoot the rock and hold his own on defense, got to find him some pt and break him in. no time for d!cking around. we have no outside threats...well maybe fischer...
Ahmed Hill is known for his 3 pt shooting.
red shirt freshman often become invisible sophomores.
Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
Ahmed Hill is known for his 3 pt shooting.
So was JJJ, wasn't he?
So was Jamail Jones. So was Derrick in HS. So was Todd. So was Jake. So was Duane. So was Juan.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 17, 2014, 09:40:02 AM
Stephen Curry shoots like a heavyweight and that guy can't carry a bag of balls.
Could probably carry F*ckin's.
Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2014, 02:55:01 PM
So was Jamail Jones. So was Derrick in HS. So was Todd. So was Jake. So was Duane. So was Juan.
Jamail and Jake were shooters. Todd and Duane were both shooters and scorers. Juan and Derrick could score (at the high school level at least) but I don't think they arrived with reps as great shooters.
Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2014, 02:55:01 PM
So was Jamail Jones. So was Derrick in HS. So was Todd. So was Jake. So was Duane. So was Juan.
And Ox and Otule also.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 17, 2014, 03:09:24 PM
Jamail and Jake were shooters. Todd and Duane were both shooters and scorers. Juan and Derrick could score (at the high school level at least) but I don't think they arrived with reps as great shooters.
This is how I remember it as well.
So what happens to these kids when they get to Marquette? How can they lose their ability to shoot?
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 17, 2014, 04:01:47 PM
So what happens to these kids when they get to Marquette? How can they lose their ability to shoot?
There's a huge difference between HS 3P defense and Big East 3P defense
Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2014, 02:55:01 PM
So was Jamail Jones. So was Derrick in HS. So was Todd. So was Jake. So was Duane. So was Juan.
Jamail, Jake and Duane were regarded as 3-point shooters coming out. The others no.
Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2014, 02:55:01 PM
So was Jamail Jones. So was Derrick in HS. So was Todd. So was Jake. So was Duane. So was Juan.
Don't forget Flood.
Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on January 17, 2014, 09:02:31 AM
Good game last night.Seymour played well and won by 10.Very well coached team.I believe Cohen should redshirt his first year to gain strength.MU should have enough depth without him.Cody had a tough game,but you can tell he is a shooter.
There is no competition in these games. aau is a better indicator I this kids ability, I think a redshirt year would be wise to bulk him up.
I watched the game last nite also with interest on Cohen. I thought he was by far the best player on the court. Has tremendous athleticism, is strong, can shoot the 3 and unafraid of challenges at the hoop. He could be the starter next year, or at least find playing time.
Quote from: Chris Columbo on January 17, 2014, 09:03:32 PM
There is no competition in these games. aau is a better indicator I this kids ability, I think a redshirt year would be wise to bulk him up.
Again, size and strength does not dictate playing time if a player is capable. He will be playing next year if he is ready for some meaningful minutes. Sandy appears to have plenty of ability, and he's proven himself in bigger games.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on January 17, 2014, 10:27:32 PM
Again, size and strength does not dictate playing time if a player is capable. He will be playing next year if he is ready for some meaningful minutes. Sandy appears to have plenty of ability, and he's proven himself in bigger games.
He also blew up on the aau circuit, but we should forget that because he's a h.s. senior that's not on a D1 workout plan yet.
He also will probably show up on campus in June, which will give him plently of time to go to weight room.
There is no question this kid has all the raw tools necessary for success. Let's wait and see how he adjusts to the next level. I remember many years ago Michigan State recruited a kid like this names Gerald Busby, had the same kind of game and size. he was from a small school that played in Class D. the game at the Big Ten level was just too much. The kid left after a semester and ended up playing d2 and had a very good career. I am not saying this will be the case for Cohen , but let's give him space to grow before hanging can't miss or he is going to contribute as a freshman labels on the kid.
I think that would be a good idea for ALL recruits. Be patient. Don't judge too early or harshly. Remember the wise words of St. Al McGuire. "The best thing about freshmen is that they become sophomores." I try to not expect anything from frosh, so I am pleasantly surprised. I made a mistake thinking Duane would come in and be the starting PG from day 1. Freshmen happen.