Hugh Greenwood. 31mpg, 5.6 reb, 4.6ppg, .1 blk, .6 stl
Pretty hard hit for them if you ask me.
Stats are worse than Derrick's. If you listen to some on this board, it probably won't matter....
Ya he didn't play last game either they may have missed him.
Can knock down some 3s so good we don't have to face him.
Mostly worried about Baristow. Guy has been going off. Jamil gotta handle him.
I'm looking forward to seeing Alex Kirk, who is expected to graduate after this year. Would look really good in a Marquette uniform next year...
Goofy looking Aussie
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 19, 2013, 03:31:16 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing Alex Kirk, who is expected to graduate after this year. Would look really good in a Marquette uniform next year...
Has he given any indication of wanting to transfer? Or is this just wishful thinking? Not being critical, just trolling for information
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 19, 2013, 07:43:03 PM
Has he given any indication of wanting to transfer? Or is this just wishful thinking? Not being critical, just trolling for information
Brewcity is just stating that he finds Alexxx to be "hot".
Greenwood (uhh) wasn't a big part of their offense.. and only a 33.7% career 3FG shooter (although that % equals lights out for MU).
I feel that we will win.
I was listening to local sports talk in Vegas yesterday. They mentioned that Greenwood was out for the New Mexico State game at the Pit that New Mexico lost. He has a wrist injury. Their new coach, Craig Neal, is taking a lot of crap. A writer had to research first year New Mexico head coaches and tell the faithful that only one coach in his first year had ever swept the series with New Mexico State. Fans can be a little insane!
I listened to coach Neal on his radio show from some sports bar in Albuquerque. They just touched on the MU game briefly. He said that MU was a tough, physical team that plays hard, never gives an inch, was typical of BE basketball and that the Lobos would have to play their best to win. He compared Marquette's physicality to Cincinnati's. New Mexico beat Cincinnati on 12/7/13 at the Pit 63-54.
My wife and I will be there Saturday and I think we will win! Go Warriors!
Greenwood being out is a huge blow to New Mexico. Not so much because he was such a vital piece, but because without him, their lack of depth is exposed.
UNM lives and dies by their three headed monster of Williams, Bairstow, and Kirk. Everyone around them is basically a warm body. Did you know that in 10 games, a Lobo outside of the big three has scored in double digits only 5 times (2 times by Thomas and 3 times by Neal)? So with 11 other guys on the team, and 10 total games that means in 110 opportunities, a non-big three lobo has scored double digits only 5 times. 5 times out of 110. All 5 were against cupcakes btw.
With Greenwood out, it forces the coaches son Cullen Neal to play the point, not his natural position. He is already committing nearly three TOs a game in under 20 minutes a game. Imagine how many he will commit against an elite defense, while playing out of position for extended minutes. With Neal not being as good as Greenwood, the big 3 will suffer as well.
This also means that the starting off guard, Cleveland Thomas, will have to play extended minutes because he doesn't have Neal to spell him. Thomas makes our Thomas look like a stud, averaging 4.4 ppg, and shooting a whooping 7/22 on 3PA. Oh and BTW, he broke his nose last Monday and will be playing with a mask. No way that doesn't effect his game.
Finally, it shortens the bench significantly. Neal used to be a pretty respectable sixth man, but with him starting that leaves Deshawn Delaney as the first guy off the bench. He got 20 minutes against NMSU on Tuesday and managed 2 points and 2 boards...that's it. There will only be four men on their bench who have seen playing time in most of the Lobos' games. The most any of them is scoring is 2.3 ppg.
Honestly, I feel like if we can just shut down one of the big three, we win this game. Two players is not enough to beat us and with Greenwood out, there really isn't enough left around the two to support them.
I smell our second quality win. (I think George Washington ends up being quality by the end of the season)
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 19, 2013, 08:07:10 PM
Brewcity is just stating that he finds Alexxx to be "hot".
Exactly right. I have no idea if Kirk will be looking to transfer, but if he was, he would be the perfect bridge to allow Pierce to develop and hopefully land Stone in 2015.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 20, 2013, 01:02:17 AM
Greenwood being out is a huge blow to New Mexico. Not so much because he was such a vital piece, but because without him, their lack of depth is exposed.
UNM lives and dies by their three headed monster of Williams, Bairstow, and Kirk. Everyone around them is basically a warm body. Did you know that in 10 games, a Lobo outside of the big three has scored in double digits only 5 times (2 times by Thomas and 3 times by Neal)? So with 11 other guys on the team, and 10 total games that means in 110 opportunities, a non-big three lobo has scored double digits only 5 times. 5 times out of 110. All 5 were against cupcakes btw.
With Greenwood out, it forces the coaches son Cullen Neal to play the point, not his natural position. He is already committing nearly three TOs a game in under 20 minutes a game. Imagine how many he will commit against an elite defense, while playing out of position for extended minutes. With Neal not being as good as Greenwood, the big 3 will suffer as well.
This also means that the starting off guard, Cleveland Thomas, will have to play extended minutes because he doesn't have Neal to spell him. Thomas makes our Thomas look like a stud, averaging 4.4 ppg, and shooting a whooping 7/22 on 3PA. Oh and BTW, he broke his nose last Monday and will be playing with a mask. No way that doesn't effect his game.
Finally, it shortens the bench significantly. Neal used to be a pretty respectable sixth man, but with him starting that leaves Deshawn Delaney as the first guy off the bench. He got 20 minutes against NMSU on Tuesday and managed 2 points and 2 boards...that's it. There will only be four men on their bench who have seen playing time in most of the Lobos' games. The most any of them is scoring is 2.3 ppg.
Honestly, I feel like if we can just shut down one of the big three, we win this game. Two players is not enough to beat us and with Greenwood out, there really isn't enough left around the two to support them.
I smell our second quality win. (I think George Washington ends up being quality by the end of the season)
This makes me nervous...plenty of opportunities for a no-name guy to have his once-in-a-lifetime performance against us ;)
Haven't sen Kirk yet... how much range does he have? If he's strictly a post, I feel pretty good about MU matching up with him. If he plays outside more like Kaminsky, that could be trouble.
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 20, 2013, 08:15:14 AM
Haven't sen Kirk yet... how much range does he have? If he's strictly a post, I feel pretty good about MU matching up with him. If he plays outside more like Kaminsky, that could be trouble.
He's got range like Davante.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVveJB4ULtU
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 20, 2013, 07:12:25 AM
This makes me nervous...plenty of opportunities for a no-name guy to have his once-in-a-lifetime performance against us ;)
Jean Felix....
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 20, 2013, 08:15:14 AM
Haven't sen Kirk yet... how much range does he have? If he's strictly a post, I feel pretty good about MU matching up with him. If he plays outside more like Kaminsky, that could be trouble.
He's a career 27% shooter from three. Has never hit more than 13 in a season but he is already 8/30 on the year. Not great but you need to respect the shot
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 20, 2013, 10:48:40 AM
He's a career 27% shooter from three. Has never hit more than 13 in a season but he is already 8/30 on the year. Not great but you need to respect the shot
So he's still pretty bad (26.7%), he's just shooting them more frequently.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 20, 2013, 10:49:04 AM
Ugh, don't speak that name
I was taken immediately back to that game when we played SDSU at the Honda Center. I don't ususally hate arenas, but after both of those games, HC is on my list.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 20, 2013, 01:02:17 AM
(I think George Washington ends up being quality by the end of the season)
Totally agree. They have wins over Miami, Rutgers, Maryland and Creighton--most of those coming away from home. Certainly not a rock-solid array of wins, but wins over legit DI opponents nonetheless especially Maryland and Creighton. Consider me an honorary Colonial for the 2014 GW campaign.
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 20, 2013, 08:15:14 AM
Haven't sen Kirk yet... how much range does he have? If he's strictly a post, I feel pretty good about MU matching up with him. If he plays outside more like Kaminsky, that could be trouble.
He nailed a buzzer 3 at the end of regulation to tie up UAB in their holiday tourney earlier this year. Blazers pretty much left him unguarded, and he made them pay.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 20, 2013, 10:55:02 AM
So he's still pretty bad (26.7%), he's just shooting them more frequently.
True, but I still wouldn't leave him open beyond the arc
Quote from: windyplayer on December 20, 2013, 11:45:55 AM
I was taken immediately back to that game when we played SDSU at the Honda Center. I don't ususally hate arenas, but after both of those games, HC is on my list.
Not that the memory is any better, but Stanford's circus shot was at the Honda Center. Jean Felix's display was at the Aztecs Arena. Both pretty brutal live.
Quote from: wardle2wade on December 20, 2013, 01:45:33 PM
Not that the memory is any better, but Stanford's circus shot was at the Honda Center. Jean Felix's display was at the Aztecs Arena. Both pretty brutal live.
Good call. That's even worse. Let me preface this with "I've had good fortune in life," but that may have been the nadir of my time on this earth. Those damn Lopez twins.
As an aside, I pulled up a recap of that Alabama game and I had completely forgotten about the "bomb scare" that delayed the game by 70 minutes.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 20, 2013, 01:35:20 PM
True, but I still wouldn't leave him open beyond the arc
True, especially since he's not likely to beat you off the bounce if you go out on him.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 20, 2013, 08:54:26 AM
Jean Felix....
Pat Connaughton as a freshman in 2012 was nowhere near the established player he has become for Notre Dame. He was averaging 4 points over his previous 14 games and was firing bricks from 3-point range. Then he torched us for 23 points on 9-12 shooting (5-8 from 3) and 11 rebounds.
Notre Effin Dame.
Quote from: windyplayer on December 20, 2013, 02:39:41 PM
Good call. That's even worse. Let me preface this with "I've had good fortune in life," but that may have been the nadir of my time on this earth. Those damn Lopez twins.
As an aside, I pulled up a recap of that Alabama game and I had completely forgotten about the "bomb scare" that delayed the game by 70 minutes.
that was really just a reporter overhearing some MU fans mentioning that I4 was going to bomb his in game changes.
Quote from: windyplayer on December 20, 2013, 02:39:41 PM
As an aside, I pulled up a recap of that Alabama game and I had completely forgotten about the "bomb scare" that delayed the game by 70 minutes.
Ironically, the bomb scare might have been the high point of the day for MU.
Seriously, as one of those standing around outside the arena that day wondering what the heck was happening, it was a pretty strange experience. There were no announcements (at least in the are where I was), so most people learned about it when friends called and told them what they'd heard on CBS. I don't recall any formal "all clear" type of announcement either. One minute we were standing around waiting; the next they just opened the turnstiles and started letting people in. Strange day.
At least there was good Mexican food that night....
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 20, 2013, 04:14:10 PM
Ironically, the bomb scare might have been the high point of the day for MU.
Seriously, as one of those standing around outside the arena that day wondering what the heck was happening, it was a pretty strange experience. There were no announcements (at least in the are where I was), so most people learned about it when friends called and told them what they'd heard on CBS. I don't recall any formal "all clear" type of announcement either. One minute we were standing around waiting; the next they just opened the turnstiles and started letting people in. Strange day.
At least there was good Mexican food that night....
We'd be remiss if we didn't mention what the potential bomb was: a box of frozen hotdogs in a food cart outside the stadium. They set off the bomb-sniffing police dogs.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 20, 2013, 01:02:17 AM
Greenwood being out is a huge blow to New Mexico. Not so much because he was such a vital piece, but because without him, their lack of depth is exposed.
UNM lives and dies by their three headed monster of Williams, Bairstow, and Kirk. Everyone around them is basically a warm body. Did you know that in 10 games, a Lobo outside of the big three has scored in double digits only 5 times (2 times by Thomas and 3 times by Neal)? So with 11 other guys on the team, and 10 total games that means in 110 opportunities, a non-big three lobo has scored double digits only 5 times. 5 times out of 110. All 5 were against cupcakes btw.
With Greenwood out, it forces the coaches son Cullen Neal to play the point, not his natural position. He is already committing nearly three TOs a game in under 20 minutes a game. Imagine how many he will commit against an elite defense, while playing out of position for extended minutes. With Neal not being as good as Greenwood, the big 3 will suffer as well.
This also means that the starting off guard, Cleveland Thomas, will have to play extended minutes because he doesn't have Neal to spell him. Thomas makes our Thomas look like a stud, averaging 4.4 ppg, and shooting a whooping 7/22 on 3PA. Oh and BTW, he broke his nose last Monday and will be playing with a mask. No way that doesn't effect his game.
Finally, it shortens the bench significantly. Neal used to be a pretty respectable sixth man, but with him starting that leaves Deshawn Delaney as the first guy off the bench. He got 20 minutes against NMSU on Tuesday and managed 2 points and 2 boards...that's it. There will only be four men on their bench who have seen playing time in most of the Lobos' games. The most any of them is scoring is 2.3 ppg.
Honestly, I feel like if we can just shut down one of the big three, we win this game. Two players is not enough to beat us and with Greenwood out, there really isn't enough left around the two to support them.
I smell our second quality win. (I think George Washington ends up being quality by the end of the season)
Thomas won't be starting, Deshawn Delaney, a 6-5 JUCO transfer will be starting in his place. According to the Albuquerque Journal, Delaney is best in transition and man to man both of which will be utilized a lot in today's game.
Quote from: LittleMurs on December 21, 2013, 09:08:45 AM
Thomas won't be starting, Deshawn Delaney, a 6-5 JUCO transfer will be starting in his place. According to the Albuquerque Journal, Delaney is best in transition and man to man both of which will be utilized a lot in today's game.
Good catch. I usually go by how many minutes per game they get