Other than both teams being DQ'd, what is the desired outcome? For me, Mike Brey is a class act and Tom Crean is an oversized oompa loompa, so i would be ok with Notre Dame winning. I feel sick to my stomach.
Well, there is snow coming there. Hopefully, the game will be cancelled.o :D
Kinda like having to pick between the plague v. Cholera. Pol Pot v Heinrich Himmler. Bears v. Cowboys. Digger v. Osama Bin Laden. Food poisoning v. flu. Getting your eyeballs ripped out v. being set on fire.
One of my favorite TC victories was MU over ND in the Garden in the BET in 2008. Nothing beats winning at night, in NYC, in March.
It's so hard to pick, seeing as Notre Dame is one of our biggest rivals and Indiana is also one of our biggest rivals.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 12, 2013, 10:35:21 PM
It's so hard to pick, seeing as Notre Dame is one of our biggest rivals and Indiana is also one of our biggest rivals.
Hard to have a team as a rival if you don't play them.
Quote from: 79Warrior on December 12, 2013, 10:38:17 PM
Hard to have a team as a rival if you don't play them.
Ask Mike Brey why Notre Dame isn't playing Marquette.
Mike Brey: Basketball Coach, Humanitarian, Philanderer
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For what its worth, we ran 1,750 game simulations and we have Notre Dame losing by about 9 and have only a 26.4% probability of winning.
Quote from: andymartinelli2 on December 12, 2013, 11:08:32 PM
For what its worth, we ran 1,750 game simulations and we have Notre Dame losing by about 9 and have only a 26.4% probability of winning.
Tom wins these types of games. Save for competing against Bo Ryan, he was very good in Nov / Dec marquee games at MU.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 12, 2013, 10:35:21 PM
It's so hard to pick, seeing as Notre Dame is one of our biggest rivals and Indiana is also one of our biggest rivals. Indiana has our former coach that people love to hate.
FTFY. It's two things MU fans love to hate. I don't know why you keep having a problem understanding this. The topic of Indiana isn't about the school or the team, it's about the coach.
And, while I'm here.. superbar
Quote from: 79Warrior on December 12, 2013, 10:38:17 PM
Hard to have a team as a rival if you don't play them.
Ding ding ding ;)
Quote from: The Lens on December 12, 2013, 11:15:09 PM
Tom wins these types of games. Save for competing against Bo Ryan, he was very good in Nov / Dec marquee games at MU.
"Tom?" I don't think even his mother calls him "Tom."
My second-favorite team is whoever plays Notre Dame, so I'll somewhat reluctantly pull for Indiana.
Notre Dame became even more hate-able when wussy Brey refused to set up a non-conference series with us. He might be a class act, as others have claimed, but there's a chicken hiding under that turtleneck.
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 13, 2013, 12:13:30 AM
FTFY. It's two things MU fans love to hate. I don't know why you keep having a problem understanding this. The topic of Indiana isn't about the school or the team, it's about the coach.
And, while I'm here.. superbar
Oh I get it. It's why we always cheered against Northwestern, Tennessee, Utah, Ball State, Wagner, etc
Hopefully teal wasn't needed
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
Oh I get it. It's why we always cheered against Northwestern, Tennessee, Utah, Ball State, Wagner, etc
Hopefully teal wasn't needed
That's because no matter how hard you kick, scream, whine, stomp your feet and say "It's not fair" the Marquette fan base doesn't share your opinion that if you despise Tom Crean you MUST despise Kevin O'Neill and Rick Majerus.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
Oh I get it. It's why we always cheered against Northwestern, Tennessee, Utah, Ball State, Wagner, etc
Hopefully teal wasn't needed
I have always cheered against Wagner. I prefer Bach.
Hope they both lose.
Quote from: leever on December 13, 2013, 10:37:01 AM
I have always cheered against Wagner. I prefer Bach.
Hitler was a big fan of Wagner
Quote from: keefe on December 13, 2013, 10:55:13 AM
Hitler was a big fan of Wagner
Excellent Hitler reference - completely true. Not sure how Hitler felt about Tennessee.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 09:11:12 AM
Oh I get it. It's why we always cheered against Northwestern, Tennessee, Utah, Ball State, Wagner, etc
Hopefully teal wasn't needed
No. You don't. It's about Tom Crean. Not all our former coaches. I feel like you're being intentionally obtuse about this. Yes, it might not make logical sense. Yes, it might be hypocritical or whatever. But it's just how some people are. They love to hate Tom Crean. And they don't have the same feelings about any of our other former staff. It's just the way it is.
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 13, 2013, 01:36:16 PM
No. You don't. It's about Tom Crean. Not all our former coaches. I feel like you're being intentionally obtuse about this.
Well, yes he was.
I try not to use the word "hate," but I strongly disliked Bobby Knight, so I have rooted against Indiana for decades. (And rooted against Texas Tech after that!) The fact that Crean is there now makes it easier to continue doing so.
Having said that, I'll take Mr. "It's Indiana!" over Notre Dame every time.
Quote from: leever on December 13, 2013, 10:58:30 AM
Excellent Hitler reference - completely true. Not sure how Hitler felt about Tennessee.
Hitler with Winifred Wagner at Götterdämmerung
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Not sure what Hitler thought of Tennessee but some elements of the Wehrmacht supported the Vols
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Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 13, 2013, 10:00:06 AM
That's because no matter how hard you kick, scream, whine, stomp your feet and say "It's not fair" the Marquette fan base doesn't share your opinion that if you despise Tom Crean you MUST despise Kevin O'Neill and Rick Majerus.
Oh I get that, too. I just find it comical.....and juvenile
We feel the same about you. So it's all good.
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Some of you need to check in your Marquette diplomas or MU fan cards.
I get no joy out of seeing Notre Dame win, but it felt really good to see Tan Tommy lose to an in-state school.
Quote from: 79Warrior on December 12, 2013, 10:38:17 PM
Hard to have a team as a rival if you don't play them.
Agreed. Neither team is our rival.
You Notre Dame fans will be bummed to know they led Ohio State 58-50 with 58 seconds left and lost. Made 11 of 19 free throws. I'm sorry for your loss