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Title: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 09, 2013, 06:05:47 PM
If you watch ESPN you are deluged with Ciroc Vodka ads. They are using a would-be latter day Rat Pack to pitch the brand, fronted by P Diddy. Not only is the vodka made from grapes in France but comparing P Diddy with Frank Sinatra or Frank Vincent with Dean martin is ridiculous.

P Diddy drinks Ciroc Appletinis. The Chairman of the Board drank Ketel One. Neat.
 

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Tn0YgYVVlKk/Tv5vhMS63BI/AAAAAAAAMmQ/RxRPoDtTmek/s1600/ciroc%2Ball%2Bg%2Bfront.jpg)


(http://www.thealphamarketer.com/uploads/lessons%20from%20Joey%20Bishop%20and%20the%20Rat%20Pack.jpg)
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 09, 2013, 06:18:32 PM
I loooove ciroc vodka!!!!
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 09, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
Give me the Goose.  Ciroc and Kettle One are both great, but I've always been faithful to the Goose.  Have a bottle of 42 Below at home that has yet to be opened, perhaps this weekend.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 09, 2013, 07:13:46 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 09, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
Give me the Goose.  Ciroc and Kettle One are both great, but I've always been faithful to the Goose.  Have a bottle of 42 Below at home that has yet to be opened, perhaps this weekend.

I've never had 42 Below, is that stronger?
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 09, 2013, 07:18:09 PM
Quote from: melissasmooth on December 09, 2013, 07:13:46 PM
I've never had 42 Below, is that stronger?

I just know it is made down under, New Zealand I think.  I don't believe it is any stronger.  I'm a bloody mary person in the morning on the weekends, so I'll have to give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: GGGG on December 09, 2013, 07:19:37 PM
Gin >>>>>> Vodka
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 09, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on December 09, 2013, 07:19:37 PM
Gin >>>>>> Vodka

If you ever get a chance do yourself a favor and try Hendrick's. As elegant as the rustle of silk.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 09, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on December 09, 2013, 07:19:37 PM
Gin >>>>>> Vodka

My skin is crawling.


I believe that people react to certain spirits dependent on how badly they had a hangover experience (or three) with said spirit.  Gin and Tequilla I no longer touch.  The smell of either puts me in the memory machine where I don't want to go back to. 
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 09, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 09, 2013, 07:18:09 PM
I just know it is made down under, New Zealand I think.  I don't believe it is any stronger.  I'm a bloody mary person in the morning on the weekends, so I'll have to give it a whirl.

Vodka is my fav for the weekends. If i drink it on weeknights it's mostly with Mountain Dew. Weekends it's perfect with salads
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 09, 2013, 07:26:57 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 09, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
Give me the Goose.  Ciroc and Kettle One are both great, but I've always been faithful to the Goose.  Have a bottle of 42 Below at home that has yet to be opened, perhaps this weekend.

You realize, of course, that Grey Goose is French??
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 09, 2013, 07:39:26 PM
Quote from: melissasmooth on December 09, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
Vodka is my fav for the weekends. Weekends it's perfect with salads

That's what most people say...
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 09, 2013, 07:43:29 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 09, 2013, 07:39:26 PM
That's what most people say...

sometimes i like brandy and coke
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Sir Lawrence on December 09, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 09, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
Give me the Goose.  Ciroc and Kettle One are both great, but I've always been faithful to the Goose.  Have a bottle of 42 Below at home that has yet to be opened, perhaps this weekend.

I have never been a Goose fan.   The bottle costs more to produce than the liquid.  And I just made that up, so don't be fact checking on me. 

Absolute/Skyy just fine for me. 
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 09, 2013, 07:55:35 PM
I can't wait for my last final
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2013, 08:13:11 PM
Real men drink the "liver killer"

(http://www.linternaute.com/homme/art-de-vivre/photo/07/spiritueux-noel/images/4-zubrowka.jpg)
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on December 09, 2013, 08:21:30 PM
y'all a bunch of pu$$ies.  PTM shoot Krocodil between his toes.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Goose on December 09, 2013, 08:27:10 PM
Sir Lawrence

Never a fan of Goose? Thought #31 and I were in your posse.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Jay Bee on December 09, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
ZFB swore off gin after he got so drunk him and his boy Randy started making out. Strictly Keystone for homeboy nowadays.

Merissa - you are a wild one this week.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 09, 2013, 08:34:17 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 09, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
ZFB swore off gin after he got so drunk him and his boy Randy started making out. Strictly Keystone for homeboy nowadays.

Merissa - you are a wild one this week.

no not all, no drinking since saturday
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 09, 2013, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 09, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
Merissa - you are a wild one this week.

You Japanese, JB?
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 09, 2013, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 09, 2013, 07:26:57 PM
You realize, of course, that Grey Goose is French??

Yup
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: NavinRJohnson on December 09, 2013, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on December 09, 2013, 07:19:37 PM
Gin >>>>>> Vodka

Depends on the situation, but I agree.

A) Meal out at good restaurant - Beefeater martini, up, 2 olives
B) Casual night out/dinner at a fiends house/shaking dice after tennis, etc.  - Absolute, rocks, twist
C) home on a weeknight (like right now) - Absolut/Skyy on the rocks
D) Saturday night, dinner at home with nowhere to go - See A x 2

Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 09, 2013, 09:02:39 PM
Y'all just don't understand this grain thing, do y'all?
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: real chili 83 on December 09, 2013, 09:21:12 PM
Anyone try Opulent?  Keep it in the freezer.  Good stuff Maynard.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 09, 2013, 09:30:18 PM
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on December 09, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
I have never been a Goose fan.   The bottle costs more to produce than the liquid.  And I just made that up, so don't be fact checking on me. 

Absolute/Skyy just fine for me. 

The problem with Grey Goose is that it is a tribute to aspirational marketing - a ploy the makers of Ciroc are mimicking through a cynical rip-off of the Rat Pack . Grey Goose was invented not that long ago in order to convert from cognac making.

Ketel, Absolut, and Rodnik have been around a long time and will still be there long after P Diddy goes to that great gay bar in the Skyy.

We had several ethnic Russian pilots from the Ukrainian Air Force assigned to the III Corps Close Air Support team in Iraq back in '07 and they swore by Rodnik. I had to wait until I got back to CONUS to give it a go but it is a great vodka. Do give it a try if you like vodka. It works well with a twist or as an extra dry Gibson up.    
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Sir Lawrence on December 09, 2013, 09:34:26 PM
Quote from: Goose on December 09, 2013, 08:27:10 PM
Sir Lawrence

Never a fan of Goose? Thought #31 and I were in your posse.

JJ, you and 31 are forever in my wheelhouse.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2013, 10:07:39 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 09, 2013, 09:02:39 PM
Y'all just don't understand this grain thing, do y'all?

You sticking with the NorCal vino?  The Euro rojos have gluten paste in them, brah.  Otherwise you are grain dead like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 09, 2013, 10:30:46 PM
wow, i'm over my head. i just love drinking vodka! I don't know anything about grains and history, etc.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Jay Bee on December 09, 2013, 11:18:33 PM
Karkov & Phirrips!

4never - is coffee OK in your cult diet thing? I have a pot set for an early AM auto brew. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 12:11:52 AM
Actually the stuff they sell at Costco isn't bad -- they have both Grey Goose and Tito's knockoffs.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 10, 2013, 06:57:27 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 12:11:52 AM
Actually the stuff they sell at Costco isn't bad -- they have both Grey Goose and Tito's knockoffs.


knockoffs are good
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: NavinRJohnson on December 10, 2013, 07:38:46 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 12:11:52 AM
Actually the stuff they sell at Costco isn't bad -- they have both Grey Goose and Tito's knockoffs.


I tried hard to believe that, but no.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 08:17:07 AM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on December 10, 2013, 07:38:46 AM
I tried hard to believe that, but no.

Have you tried it?
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: NavinRJohnson on December 10, 2013, 08:29:54 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 08:17:07 AM
Have you tried it?



More than once, trying to convince myself it was just as good. I finally had to face reality...It wasn't
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 10, 2013, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2013, 08:13:11 PM
Real men drink the "liver killer"

(http://www.linternaute.com/homme/art-de-vivre/photo/07/spiritueux-noel/images/4-zubrowka.jpg)

Nice!  The famous Polish Vodka containing a blade of grass that the buffalo eat.  My wife's family always bringing the grass to flavor the Belevedere or Chopin Vodka.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 10, 2013, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 10, 2013, 08:39:32 AM
Nice!  The famous Polish Vodka containing a blade of grass that the buffalo eat.  My wife's family always bringing the grass to flavor the Belevedere or Chopin Vodka.

Yep...Bison Grass in English.  Polish version banned in the US.

There is an reformulated version now available, however.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704515904576075521026203578
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 10, 2013, 09:26:54 AM
Quote from: melissasmooth on December 10, 2013, 06:57:27 AM
knockoffs are good



I prefer knockers.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 10, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
Zubrowka puts hair on you. No doubt about it. But it tastes something awful. Its illegal in the USA, no? I had it in Europe...

Keefe, Hendrick's gin is great. Hendrick's and Bombay Sapphire are the only gins I drink.

Give me a rye (Templeton anyone?), bourbon (Maker's), or Scotch (Johnnie Walker Red) over vodka any day. Any of these with a splash of club soda on the rocks.

Muddled Brandy Old Fashioneds (Christian Brothers, no need to get fancy) when I want a taste of the Fatherland.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: MU B2002 on December 10, 2013, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 12:11:52 AM
Actually the stuff they sell at Costco isn't bad -- they have both Grey Goose and Tito's knockoffs.




Titos is my choice, but I don't really drink much vodka.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Chicago_inferiority_complexes on December 10, 2013, 10:37:14 AM
4ever,

I'm pretty sure I've read that gluten is destroyed in the distillation process of hard alcohols. That said, I stick to wine mostly myself these days.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 10:58:17 AM
Quote from: warrior07 on December 10, 2013, 10:37:14 AM
4ever,

I'm pretty sure I've read that gluten is destroyed in the distillation process of hard alcohols. That said, I stick to wine mostly myself these days.

This is what I think of when anyone starts talking about gluten:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktgNuQ61NHE
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 10, 2013, 11:09:05 AM

  Vodka , like Tequila, is all marketing. There are so many brands.  I don't drink much other than fruit of the grape and single malts but will indulge in an Absolut & tonic on a hot summer day.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 10, 2013, 12:32:38 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 10, 2013, 09:15:26 AM
Yep...Bison Grass in English.  Polish version banned in the US.

There is an reformulated version now available, however.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704515904576075521026203578

Bialystok is the wife's hometown.  I can say the home liquor cabinet has the Polish version of Zubrowka. 

Bialowieza, the Polish national park, was worth the visit to see the European Bison.

Lately, when my father-in-law makes his summer visit from Poland he brings the "backyard vodka" with him which seems to be the latest Polish fad.  Everyone is building stills and breakinbg out old family receipes.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Eldon on December 10, 2013, 12:54:57 PM
I've long been a fan of Roundy's Vodka.  I find that it yields the highest happiness-per-dollar ratio.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 10, 2013, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: ElDonBDon on December 10, 2013, 12:54:57 PM
I've long been a fan of Roundy's Vodka.  I find that it yields the highest happiness-per-dollar ratio.

:)
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on December 10, 2013, 08:29:54 AM

More than once, trying to convince myself it was just as good. I finally had to face reality...It wasn't

I consider myself lucky that I don't have your sophisticated palate.  Being satisfied with the "crappy" stuff has probably saved me thousands of dollars over the years.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 10, 2013, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 06:35:15 PM
I consider myself lucky that I don't have your sophisticated palate.  Being satisfied with the "crappy" stuff has probably saved me thousands of dollars over the years.

You could save even more by going on the wagon!
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 10, 2013, 07:32:17 PM
The whole gluten thing....I don't know, still wondering.

Saw this today

http://gizmodo.com/why-you-might-want-to-rethink-going-gluten-free-1475646469?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 07:57:50 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 10, 2013, 06:59:50 PM
You could save even more by going on the wagon!

Ha!
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 10, 2013, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 07:57:50 PM
Ha!

I've been on the wagon for some time due to meds for my war wounds. The flight surgeon green lighted me for a glass of wine on Thanksgiving with dinner. Single malt appeared after dinner and it required Herculean strength to refrain from indulging in a couple fingers.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: warriorchick on December 10, 2013, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 10, 2013, 08:01:06 PM
I've been on the wagon for some time due to meds for my war wounds. The flight surgeon green lighted me for a glass of wine on Thanksgiving with dinner. Single malt appeared after dinner and it required Herculean strength to refrain from indulging in a couple fingers.

Sorry to hear that, Keefe.  If anyone deserves to partake once in awhile, it's a war hero.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 10, 2013, 09:00:53 PM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 10, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
Keefe, Hendrick's gin is great. Hendrick's and Bombay Sapphire are the only gins I drink.

SEALs drink Sapphire, for some reason. AFSOC TACPs drink Hendrick's. We work very closely with the Brit SAS guys and train extensively at their facility in Scotland. It was some SAS troops who turned me on to Hendrick's and I haven't looked back since. A stellar beverage that stands as the blond liquor of choice for the men of the 17th ASOS.

Walker is a blended scotch. I really urge you to try some of the single malts - a much more complex drink.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: 🏀 on December 11, 2013, 10:15:42 AM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on December 09, 2013, 08:21:30 PM
y'all a bunch of pu$$ies.  PTM shoot Krocodil between his toes.

Gotta hide those marks, now if I can get these face lesions covered up.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 11, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 10, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
Give me a rye (Templeton anyone?), bourbon (Maker's), or Scotch (Johnnie Walker Red) over vodka any day. Any of these with a splash of club soda on the rocks.


granted its just JW Red swill but never put soda in scotch  :o
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Benny B on December 11, 2013, 10:31:43 AM
Quote from: keefe on December 10, 2013, 08:01:06 PM
I've been on the wagon for some time due to meds for my war wounds. The flight surgeon green lighted me for a glass of wine on Thanksgiving with dinner. Single malt appeared after dinner and it required Herculean strength to refrain from indulging in a couple fingers.

So to clarify, you're on a wagon... it's just not the wagon.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 11, 2013, 10:33:42 AM
Quote from: keefe on December 10, 2013, 09:00:53 PM

Walker is a blended scotch. I really urge you to try some of the single malts - a much more complex drink.

Open to suggestions...
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 11, 2013, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on December 11, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
granted its just JW Red swill but never put soda in scotch  :o

I'm talking like a splash. 1:10 ratio at the most. But as you and Keefe pointed out, I don't drink the best Scotch in the world... If someone could turn me on to a better Scotch maybe I would change my ways...
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: warriorchick on December 11, 2013, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 11, 2013, 10:33:42 AM
Open to suggestions...

How about this?

(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/life/drink/2013/12/131209_DRINK_BurgundyScotch.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Henry Sugar on December 11, 2013, 10:46:13 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 10, 2013, 07:32:17 PM
The whole gluten thing....I don't know, still wondering.

Saw this today

http://gizmodo.com/why-you-might-want-to-rethink-going-gluten-free-1475646469?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

tl;dr version
Gluten isn't good for you, but gluten-free processed food is still processed food which is worse.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 11, 2013, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 11, 2013, 10:35:55 AM
I'm talking like a splash. 1:10 ratio at the most. But as you and Keefe pointed out, I don't drink the best Scotch in the world... If someone could turn me on to a better Scotch maybe I would change my ways...

unfortunately there are not alot of options on the cheap when it comes to scotch, not wanting to be a scotch snob but for me anything less than Glenfiddich, Glenlivet, Dalmore or Chivas and I'll pass on scotch completely and go with a great beer

the only thing I'd add to a scotch is a drop of water to release the dragon (in a single malt)
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 11, 2013, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 11, 2013, 10:42:30 AM
How about this?

(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/life/drink/2013/12/131209_DRINK_BurgundyScotch.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)


Chick, the label clearly says blended...COME ON!
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 11, 2013, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on December 11, 2013, 10:49:00 AM
unfortunately there are not alot of options on the cheap when it comes to scotch, not wanting to be a scotch snob but for me anything less than Glenfiddich, Glenlivet, Dalmore or Chivas and I'll pass on scotch completely and go with a great beer

the only thing I'd add to a scotch is a drop of water to release the dragon (in a single malt)

Doesn't need to be on the cheap. I'll give some of these a shot and report back.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: warriorchick on December 11, 2013, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 11, 2013, 10:58:09 AM

Chick, the label clearly says blended...COME ON!

Sure, but it's blended for RON BURGUNDY.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 11, 2013, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 11, 2013, 10:35:55 AM
I'm talking like a splash. 1:10 ratio at the most. But as you and Keefe pointed out, I don't drink the best Scotch in the world... If someone could turn me on to a better Scotch maybe I would change my ways...

Someone mentioned Dalmore which is a nice scotch. I prefer the Islays for the depth of character. Try Bowmore, Lagavulin, Ardbeg, Laphroaig, or Bunnahabhain. Some other less daunting single malts would be Glenmorangie, Glendronach, Aberlour, The Balvenie, Scapa, Highland Park, and Royal Lochnagar.

If you really, really must put water in your scotch then give St Magdalene Linlithgow a try. A drop or two only, please.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 11, 2013, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 11, 2013, 12:21:45 PM
Someone mentioned Dalmore which is a nice scotch. I prefer the Islays for the depth of character. Try Bowmore, Lagavulin, Ardbeg, Laphroaig, or Bunnahabhain. Some other less daunting single malts would be Glenmorangie, Glendronach, Aberlour, The Balvenie, Scapa, Highland Park, and Royal Lochnagar.

If you really, really must put water in your scotch then give St Magdalene Linlithgow a try. A drop or two only, please.

Sounds good. I'm going to Binny's to look for Dalmore and one of your Islays. I have something new to drink while reading Teilhard now  ;)

No water. I promise.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 11, 2013, 03:53:08 PM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 11, 2013, 01:07:28 PM
Sounds good. I'm going to Binny's to look for Dalmore and one of your Islays. I have something new to drink while reading Teilhard now  ;)

No water. I promise.

Excellent choices both. One further recommendation for a novice would be to begin with an Oban 14. It is an intriguing scotch with a variegated nose that will help steer you towards either the dry, smoky Islays or the sweet, crisp Highlands.

Personally, I prefer the Islays for their no prisoners approach to flavor but single malts are like women - whether blond or brunette you will be spent and satisfied at the end of an evening.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 11, 2013, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 09, 2013, 11:18:33 PM
Phirrips!

You are Japanese!

頑張ってください
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 11, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
lots of drinking for me tonight!
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on December 11, 2013, 04:41:07 PM
Quote from: melissasmooth on December 11, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
lots of drinking for me tonight!

gonna take your shirt off to?   8-)
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 11, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
My preference is The Macallan 12.  Don't like the 16 ; 18 & 25 are nice but pricey
I hide my Highland Park 18 when the brother -in-law comes over.  Just a wee drop of water thank you.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 11, 2013, 05:08:12 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on December 11, 2013, 04:41:07 PM
gonna take your shirt off to?   8-)

No. Finished last exam. Drinking alone tonight
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 11, 2013, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: melissasmooth on December 11, 2013, 05:08:12 PM
Drinking alone tonight

In the City of Lost Dreams hers was a particularly cruel if tawdry nightmare...


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Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: melissasmooth on December 11, 2013, 07:45:57 PM
Ha thanks :) I'm not sad about it. I like drinking alone
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: JustinLewisFanClubPres on December 11, 2013, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 11, 2013, 12:21:45 PM
Someone mentioned Dalmore which is a nice scotch. I prefer the Islays for the depth of character. Try Bowmore, Lagavulin, Ardbeg, Laphroaig, or Bunnahabhain. Some other less daunting single malts would be Glenmorangie, Glendronach, Aberlour, The Balvenie, Scapa, Highland Park, and Royal Lochnagar.

If you really, really must put water in your scotch then give St Magdalene Linlithgow a try. A drop or two only, please.

Ardbeg is a delicious single malt. Their 10 year runs about $50-$60 a bottle and I think it stands up very well to much more expensive bottles. However, beware that Islays are typically very peaty. If that's not your thing, you may want to look elsewhere.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 11, 2013, 08:04:35 PM
Quote from: melissasmooth on December 11, 2013, 07:45:57 PM
Ha thanks :) I'm not sad about it. I like drinking alone


Goin' solo? Can F*ckin' watch?
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Goose on December 11, 2013, 08:07:06 PM
4ever

You might not be for everyone, but you make me laugh. Keep it up, my friend!
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 11, 2013, 08:20:30 PM
Quote from: melissasmooth on December 11, 2013, 07:45:57 PM
Ha thanks :) I'm not sad about it. I like drinking alone

The gracious license of self-commiseration...


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Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 11, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
Quote from: MU7703 on December 11, 2013, 07:54:48 PM
beware that Islays are typically very peaty

Precisely the point of an Islay. The smoky richness tinged with salt air takes one back to that simple place we all wish to rather be...

Glenlivet it has castles three,
Drumin, Blairfindy and Deskie,
And also one distillery,
More famous than the castles three
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: JustinLewisFanClubPres on December 11, 2013, 09:17:44 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 11, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
Precisely the point of an Islay. The smoky richness tinged with salt air takes one back to that simple place we all wish to rather be...

I agree but some people prefer otherwise.

I'd also recommend that people that are into drinking liquor check out a nice bottle of Mezcal at some time. I'd recommend any of Del Maguey's products. It's kind of like tequila that drinks like scotch. 
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 11, 2013, 11:23:21 PM

    WHISKEY
                   
                    In 1952, Armon M. Sweat, Jr., a
member of the Texas House of Representatives, was asked about his position
on whiskey.  What follows is his exact answer (taken from the Political
Archives of Texas):
                   
                    "If you mean whiskey, the devil's
brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster that defiles innocence,
dethrones reason, destroys the home,creates misery and poverty, yea,
literally takes the bread from the  mouths of little children;  if you mean
that evil drink that topples Christian men and women from the pinnacles of
righteous and gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, shame,
despair, helplessness, and hopelessness, then, my friend, I am opposed to it
with every fiber of my being.
                   
                    However, if by whiskey you mean the
lubricant of conversation, the philosophic juice, the elixir of life, the
liquid that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in
their hearts and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes;  if you mean
Christmas cheer, the stimulating sip that puts a little spring in the step
of an elderly gentleman on a frosty morning;


if you mean that drink that enables man to magnify his joy, and to
forget life's great tragedies and heartbreaks and sorrow;  if you mean that
drink the sale of which pours into Texas treasuries untold millions of
dollars each year, that provides tender care for our little crippled
children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitifully aged and infirm, to
build the finest highways, hospitals, universities, and community colleges
in this nation, then my friend, I am absolutely, unequivocally in favor of
it.
                   
                    This is my position, and as always,
I refuse to compromise on matters of principle."




















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Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 11, 2013, 11:44:51 PM
Quote from: MU7703 on December 11, 2013, 09:17:44 PM
I agree but some people prefer otherwise.

I'd also recommend that people that are into drinking liquor check out a nice bottle of Mezcal at some time. I'd recommend any of Del Maguey's products. It's kind of like tequila that drinks like scotch. 

I love the peaty bite of an Islay but you are right in that it is not for the faint of palate. But a fine Combat Gar demands nothing less than a sturdy Islay to deliver an exquisite sensory excursion.

If you have not followed Puro Maduro you need to hear his insights on the pairing of single malt and gar. Pure genius.

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Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 12, 2013, 12:21:16 AM
Quote from: elephantraker on December 11, 2013, 11:23:21 PM
    WHISKEY
                   
                    In 1952, Armon M. Sweat, Jr., a
member of the Texas House of Representatives, was asked about his position
on whiskey.  What follows is his exact answer (taken from the Political
Archives of Texas):
                   
                    "If you mean whiskey, the devil's
brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster that defiles innocence,
dethrones reason, destroys the home,creates misery and poverty, yea,
literally takes the bread from the  mouths of little children;  if you mean
that evil drink that topples Christian men and women from the pinnacles of
righteous and gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, shame,
despair, helplessness, and hopelessness, then, my friend, I am opposed to it
with every fiber of my being.
                   
                    However, if by whiskey you mean the
lubricant of conversation, the philosophic juice, the elixir of life, the
liquid that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in
their hearts and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes;  if you mean
Christmas cheer, the stimulating sip that puts a little spring in the step
of an elderly gentleman on a frosty morning;


if you mean that drink that enables man to magnify his joy, and to
forget life's great tragedies and heartbreaks and sorrow;  if you mean that
drink the sale of which pours into Texas treasuries untold millions of
dollars each year, that provides tender care for our little crippled
children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitifully aged and infirm, to
build the finest highways, hospitals, universities, and community colleges
in this nation, then my friend, I am absolutely, unequivocally in favor of
it.
                   
                    This is my position, and as always,
I refuse to compromise on matters of principle."




















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Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on December 12, 2013, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 09, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
If you ever get a chance do yourself a favor and try Hendrick's. As elegant as the rustle of silk.

+1,000
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: StillAWarrior on December 12, 2013, 01:41:03 PM
This thread has got me thinking that I've got to go back and try single malts again.  I like and drink various fairly inexpensive blends.  Dewars is readily available and inexpensive.  Pretty much whenever I go someplace with an open bar, they have Dewars and I'm happy to drink that for free.

My very limited experience with single malts was a long time ago and was before I started drinking blended scotch.  Years ago, I was out with a friend and he bought me a single malt, and I didn't care for it.  Also years ago, I bought a bottle of Glenfiddich and wasn't a big fan.  Based on those early experiences, I just stuck with blends once I started drinking scotch about ten years later.  This thread has me wanting to revisit that.  Obviously, an easy place to start is with the bottle of Glenfiddich in my cabinet (if it was 12 when I got it, it's probably nearly 30 now...and yes, I know that is not how it works).  I suppose the Macallan 12 would be another good one to try.  From those of you who know your single malts, assuming I don't enjoy the Glenfiddich, is there something you would recommend.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 12, 2013, 01:54:17 PM
  Keef's taste runs to the smokey, peaty Islay Scotches . while I do like Lagavulin and have sampled many,  I have gotten my friends who were Johnny Walker drinkers to switch to The Macallan 12. Its a reasonable price for a glass( $12) in most bars I attend. that might be the way to start.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Benny B on December 12, 2013, 02:37:25 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 11, 2013, 08:20:30 PM
The gracious license of self-commiseration...


Cut Merissa some slack... it takes an incredibly intelligent person to drink alone.  Little known math theorem: when your bottle of Lagavulin is the numerator and the number of friends are the denominator, the greatest possible outcome is to get rid of your friends.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 12, 2013, 03:03:34 PM
Ledaig is a decent inexpensive very peaty single malt for those that like them that way
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 12, 2013, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on December 12, 2013, 01:41:03 PM
This thread has got me thinking that I've got to go back and try single malts again.  I like and drink various fairly inexpensive blends.  Dewars is readily available and inexpensive.  Pretty much whenever I go someplace with an open bar, they have Dewars and I'm happy to drink that for free.

My very limited experience with single malts was a long time ago and was before I started drinking blended scotch.  Years ago, I was out with a friend and he bought me a single malt, and I didn't care for it.  Also years ago, I bought a bottle of Glenfiddich and wasn't a big fan.  Based on those early experiences, I just stuck with blends once I started drinking scotch about ten years later.  This thread has me wanting to revisit that.  Obviously, an easy place to start is with the bottle of Glenfiddich in my cabinet (if it was 12 when I got it, it's probably nearly 30 now...and yes, I know that is not how it works).  I suppose the Macallan 12 would be another good one to try.  From those of you who know your single malts, assuming I don't enjoy the Glenfiddich, is there something you would recommend.

As elephant said I do prefer the bolder palate of the Islays which might not be the best transition for a blended whiskey drinker. I have belonged to a few single malt tasting clubs over the years (the best being the Passport Club at the Raffles in Singapore) and have kept my notes.

A good rule of thumb is the higher the elevation of distillation the sweeter the pour and more fruit on the nose. I can recommend a few bottles that might give you an overview of the introductory bounty without breaking the bank. I'll be honest - I get my single malts at the McChord AFB Class VI store where there is no excise so my scotch is less than half the Seattle retail price but the prices I list here are double my duty free cost.


Glenmorangie 10

Entry level scotch at moderate price ($30's)

Nose: Heavy citrus fruit with honey and vanilla overtones. Buttery side similar to Tate & Lyle's Treacle. Overall solid delivery.

Palate: Somewhat weak though even delivery. Strong fruit (apple, citrus) but too much floral. Dry oak very evident.

Finish: Short but solid. Warming with spicy palate. Apple, cardamom, nutmeg.


Oban 14

Classic Western Highlands scotch. One of the oldest distillers in Scotland. A must try for any scotch drinker. Montilla casked. Solid offering at a great price ($50's)

Nose: Rich, complex, diverse. Strong malt opening with sweet, rich fruit gives way to ocean – brine, seaweed, tarry rope, Manzanilla. Hints of cut hay and wood smoke. 

Palate: Very thick, rich, and full palate. Solid attack where sweetness gives way to smoky, savory, spice. Smoky hints with chocolate. Oak conveys cereal and malt.

Finish: Nicely elongated with fruit and chocolate. Closes well with dry oak and a hint peat.


Dalwhinnie 15

Superb Central Highlands scotch that represents the breed rather well. One of the more ubiquitous single malts and also one of the best values ($50's.)


Nose: One of the most expressive single malts out there. Opens with a light maltiness which gives way to fruit and honey. Faintly phenolic with light peat.

Palate: Incredibly smooth. Flavor develops slowly with increasing richness and complexity. Very aromatic. Malt, honey, and spring heather give way to mown hay and peat.

Finish: Nice closing statement with dry oak and cut grass.





Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: The Lens on December 12, 2013, 10:45:41 PM
We're in America; drink some bourbon.  And never mix; that's where the hangover comes in.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 12, 2013, 10:52:52 PM
Quote from: The Lens on December 12, 2013, 10:45:41 PM
We're in America; drink some bourbon.  And never mix; that's where the hangover comes in.

One man's corn is another man's barley
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: StillAWarrior on December 13, 2013, 06:58:42 AM
Work holiday party last night...tried the Macallan 12...very nice.  Must continue exploration...
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 13, 2013, 10:25:59 AM
Bought and drank Glenfiddich 12 last night. It was pleasant. I wouldn't say its my favorite drink, but I enjoyed it. I had most of it neat, and added a drop of water a little past halfway through. The flavor became much more complex after adding water.

I think I need to add a Highlands and Islay to my collection. I figured it would be good to keep at least one of each region in my liquor cabinet. Gonna go with one of the ones Keefe has notes on.

Also, this is fun: http://www.esquire.com/features/drinking/scotch-pronunciation-guide-5836909
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: JWags85 on December 13, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: The Lens on December 12, 2013, 10:45:41 PM
We're in America; drink some bourbon.  And never mix; that's where the hangover comes in.

Eh depends, if you just have a few splashes of ginger ale, you'll be fine come morning, provided you're drinking a decent to good bourbon.  A night of bourbon and cokes however, and you'll feel like a bag of ass.  I usually switch to bourbon and water mid way through the night, and my body thanks me for it.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 13, 2013, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: JWags85 on December 13, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
Eh depends, if you just have a few splashes of ginger ale, you'll be fine come morning, provided you're drinking a decent to good bourbon.  A night of bourbon and cokes however, and you'll feel like a bag of ass.  I usually switch to bourbon and water mid way through the night, and my body thanks me for it.

Yup. The caffeine is a bitch. The alcohol is already dehydrating the crap out of you.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: real chili 83 on December 13, 2013, 10:43:04 AM
Quote from: JWags85 on December 13, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
Eh depends, if you just have a few splashes of ginger ale, you'll be fine come morning, provided you're drinking a decent to good bourbon.  A night of bourbon and cokes however, and you'll feel like a bag of ass.  I usually switch to bourbon and water mid way through the night, and my body thanks me for it.

In the upper midwest, you can find an intriguing brand of Irish Whiskey called 2 Gingers.  Worth giving it a try. 

http://www.2gingerswhiskey.com/
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 13, 2013, 11:25:53 AM
Tried Redbreast recently. It is an Irish with a bit of honey to it. Too sweet for my taste but interesting.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 13, 2013, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 13, 2013, 10:25:59 AM
Bought and drank Glenfiddich 12 last night. It was pleasant. I wouldn't say its my favorite drink, but I enjoyed it. I had most of it neat, and added a drop of water a little past halfway through. The flavor became much more complex after adding water.

I think I need to add a Highlands and Islay to my collection. I figured it would be good to keep at least one of each region in my liquor cabinet. Gonna go with one of the ones Keefe has notes on.

Also, this is fun: http://www.esquire.com/features/drinking/scotch-pronunciation-guide-5836909

The Brian Cox Esquire piece is fantastic. His favorite is Lagavulin, "the cognac of whiskies...works like a depth charge...Pow!" One of the more piquant articulations of a great Islay.

Glenfiddich or Glenlivet are probably the better portals into single malts because of their ubiquity you can compare notes with most anyone. But the whole point of the cult is to explore the depth and breadth of the offering. It is one of life's more seductive cavalcades.

"The light music of whiskey falling into a glass - an agreeable interlude."
- James Joyce
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 13, 2013, 11:51:07 AM
Mods..can we name this the official Scoop liquor thread? Like we have a beer thread?
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on December 13, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
Quote from: elephantraker on December 13, 2013, 11:25:53 AM
Tried Redbreast recently. It is an Irish with a bit of honey to it. Too sweet for my taste but interesting.

I don't fancy sweet drinks but Drambuie is infused with heather honey. A superb ending to any meal.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: real chili 83 on December 13, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 13, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
I don't fancy sweet drinks but Drambuie is infused with heather honey. A superb ending to any meal.

Grand Marinier for me.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: Coleman on December 13, 2013, 01:23:04 PM
Quote from: keefe on December 13, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
I don't fancy sweet drinks but Drambuie is infused with heather honey. A superb ending to any meal.

Sounds awesome. Keefe you are going to drive me broke
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: real chili 83 on December 29, 2013, 02:03:37 PM
Chicos, tried you suggestion of A1 in a bloody.  Used Zing Zang and Stoli. 

Good call on the A1.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: CreightonWarrior on December 30, 2013, 08:45:23 AM
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 29, 2013, 02:03:37 PM
Chicos, tried you suggestion of A1 in a bloody.  Used Zing Zang and Stoli. 

Good call on the A1.
If you are looking for a solid bloody mary mix check out Jimmy Luv's brand. Fantastic mix.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: 77ncaachamps on December 31, 2013, 01:25:27 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2013, 08:13:11 PM
Real men drink the "liver killer"

(http://www.linternaute.com/homme/art-de-vivre/photo/07/spiritueux-noel/images/4-zubrowka.jpg)

I looked that up. Wasn't familiar with it.

Coincidentally, I found out that it had an ingredient linked to the EU banning Danish cinnamon rolls: coumarin.

"The tincture of bison grass found in Żubrówka is prohibited as a food additive by the Food and Drug Administration because it contains coumarin, which showed hepatotoxic effects in rats and has a blood thinning effect.[2]"
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 31, 2013, 07:33:36 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on December 31, 2013, 01:25:27 AM
I looked that up. Wasn't familiar with it.

Coincidentally, I found out that it had an ingredient linked to the EU banning Danish cinnamon rolls: coumarin.

"The tincture of bison grass found in Żubrówka is prohibited as a food additive by the Food and Drug Administration because it contains coumarin, which showed hepatotoxic effects in rats and has a blood thinning effect.[2]"

Last week, the wife and I were toasting the Zubrowka at a friends dinner party for the "second day of Christmas" (Dec. 26).  It was a long day of work on Friday.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 31, 2013, 08:33:01 AM
How's your liver and K factor doin'?
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 31, 2013, 08:48:24 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 31, 2013, 08:33:01 AM
How's your liver and K factor doin'?

Holding up and ready for New Year's Eve.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: spartan3186 on December 31, 2013, 06:40:26 PM
I'm late to the party, but lately I've been drinking a Laddy 10 year from the Bruchladdich Distillery. It's an unpeated Islay scotch, but you still get some peat that comes through due to the region. Not terribly expensive at $50 a bottle either.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 04, 2014, 08:42:24 PM
Any recommendations on keeping/storing a rum bottle once opened?
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 04, 2014, 09:39:44 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 04, 2014, 08:42:24 PM
Any recommendations on keeping/storing a rum bottle once opened?

drink it.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 04, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 04, 2014, 08:42:24 PM
Any recommendations on keeping/storing a rum bottle once opened?

We're gonna' need an age and brand to appropriately answer the question.  Oh, and how long you plan on keeping it.

But ZFB does have a good recommendation.
Title: Re: Ciroc Vodka
Post by: keefe on January 04, 2014, 11:03:48 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 04, 2014, 08:42:24 PM
Any recommendations on keeping/storing a rum bottle once opened?

Tanduay??
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