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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MarquetteDano on December 08, 2013, 09:20:25 PM

Title: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 08, 2013, 09:20:25 PM
Weekend of games worked out pretty well for Big East & Marquette (sans Badger game obviously):

- St. John's, Butler, G'Town, and Xavier take care of business
- Nova destroys city rival St. Joe's on the road
- New Mexico beats Cincy solidly (good for RPI)
- George Washington knocks off Maryland (GW's only loss is to Marquette)
- San Diego State beats UDub
- Creighton easily takes care of state rival Nebraska
- Seton Hall knocks off state rival Rutgers on the road

Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 08, 2013, 09:20:25 PM
Weekend of games worked out pretty well for Big East & Marquette (sans Badger game obviously):

- St. John's, Butler, G'Town, and Xavier take care of business
- Nova destroys city rival St. Joe's on the road
- New Mexico beats Cincy solidly (good for RPI)
- George Washington knocks off Maryland (GW's only loss is to Marquette)
- San Diego State beats UDub
- Creighton easily takes care of state rival Nebraska
- Seton Hall knocks off state rival Rutgers on the road



And not a peep from our most prodigious poster on any of this. I would say it makes you wonder, but not really.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: MUeng on December 08, 2013, 09:40:15 PM
has it gotten to the point now where we just cheer for the league to do well because marquette can't win games?
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: esotericmindguy on December 08, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: MUeng on December 08, 2013, 09:40:15 PM
has it gotten to the point now where we just cheer for the league to do well because marquette can't win games?

Beat New Mexico and the non conference won't be a complete disaster. That will be their 6th game vs. top 55 in the RPI, if you come out 2-4 that's not terrible. Considering 5 of them were on the road or neutral.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: ecompt on December 08, 2013, 09:59:32 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 08, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Beat New Mexico and the non conference won't be a complete disaster. That will be their 6th game vs. top 55 in the RPI, if you come out 2-4 that's not terrible. Considering 5 of them were on the road or neutral.

Problem is, we have an excellent chance of losing at New Mexico, a 7-1 team that defeated UAB, which defeated Kentucky,   
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: setyoursightsnorth on December 08, 2013, 10:03:35 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
And not a peep from our most prodigious poster on any of this. I would say it makes you wonder, but not really.

+1
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: esotericmindguy on December 08, 2013, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: ecompt on December 08, 2013, 09:59:32 PM
Problem is, we have an excellent chance of losing at New Mexico, a 7-1 team that defeated UAB, which defeated Kentucky,   

Based on Kenpom, Marquette will be 2 point dogs. Typically Vegas and Ken are within a point. I'd say they have a good chance of winning as well. Need to make shots, defense is solid.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: Eldon on December 08, 2013, 10:43:46 PM
Quote from: MUeng on December 08, 2013, 09:40:15 PM
has it gotten to the point now where we just cheer for the league to do well because marquette can't win games?

I cheer for the league whether we are good or not
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: JTBMU7 on December 08, 2013, 10:44:09 PM
 What is our SOS ranked right now? Have to assume it is top 20ish....
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: forgetful on December 08, 2013, 11:07:38 PM
Quote from: ecompt on December 08, 2013, 09:59:32 PM
Problem is, we have an excellent chance of losing at New Mexico, a 7-1 team that defeated UAB, which defeated Kentucky,   

Isn't that kind of the point of a good win.  That you have a chance of losing but still manage to pull out a win.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: jesmu84 on December 08, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: JTBMU7 on December 08, 2013, 10:44:09 PM
What is our SOS ranked right now? Have to assume it is top 20ish....

According to Jerry Palm, 55

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/sos?&_3:col_1=4

Here, 22

http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: brewcity77 on December 08, 2013, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: ecompt on December 08, 2013, 09:59:32 PM
Problem is, we have an excellent chance of losing at New Mexico, a 7-1 team that defeated UAB, which defeated Kentucky,   

Not that it really matters (the A beat B beat C argument) but UAB defeated North Carolina, not Kentucky.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 08, 2013, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
And not a peep from our most prodigious poster on any of this. I would say it makes you wonder, but not really.

::)


Lenny, he already posted what did you want me to do, repost the same thing?  Good Lord


If anything, it begs the question on why so many people here think we are going to go 14-4 or 15-3.  


What happened to all of this stuff going to the super bar........
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 08, 2013, 11:47:16 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 08, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
According to Jerry Palm, 55

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/sos?&_3:col_1=4

Here, 22

http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team


RPI has it at 57

Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 09, 2013, 06:17:32 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 08, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
According to Jerry Palm, 55

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/sos?&_3:col_1=4

Here, 22

http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team


Far cry from previous years when our nonconference SoS is about 175.  
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 09, 2013, 07:15:12 AM
Quote from: ecompt on December 08, 2013, 09:59:32 PM
Problem is, we have an excellent chance of losing at New Mexico, a 7-1 team that defeated UAB, which defeated Kentucky,   

I believe the game is in Vegas so it is neutral. To slight home advantage. I'm sure it will not be as bad as SDSU in Anaheim in terms of fanbase.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: GooooMarquette on December 09, 2013, 09:23:53 AM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 09, 2013, 07:15:12 AM
I believe the game is in Vegas so it is neutral. To slight home advantage. I'm sure it will not be as bad as SDSU in Anaheim in terms of fanbase.

I suspect it will be a pretty decent home court advantage for NMU, as NMU fans will probably FAR outnumber MU fans.  But you're right that it probably won't be as unbalanced as the SDSU game, mainly because there will also be lots of Colorado and OK State fans there as well.  And we may actually get some of them cheering for us, as we'll be underdogs....

As for SOS - our nonconference SOS is stronger than in years past, but it has to be.  Even with some good wins over the weekend, there is no way the SOS surges in the BE season like it has in the past.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: Sunbelt15 on December 09, 2013, 10:51:15 AM
Quote from: ElDonBDon on December 08, 2013, 10:43:46 PM
I cheer for the league whether we are good or not

In the tournament or early year challenges, not during the regular season. Just me.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: MUMountin on December 09, 2013, 11:11:09 AM
Quote from: ecompt on December 08, 2013, 09:59:32 PM
Problem is, we have an excellent chance of losing at New Mexico, a 7-1 team that barely defeated UAB, which defeated KentuckyUNC, who also lost to Belmont,   

FIFY.  Against UAB, UNM had to hit desperation 3s at the end of both regulation and 1OT to tie the game, and had played from behind most of that game--wasn't exactly a resounding win.  I do think that UAB is a decent team this year, but then UNM got blown out by a good UMass team.  Otherwise, UNM's schedule looks fairly pedestrian--a home win over Cinci being the only other impressive result. 

All to say--UNM is a good team, and would be a good win for us emotionally, but they haven't exactly run the gantlet to get to 7-1.  I think this is definitely winnable--just hope we finally put it all together.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: Eldon on December 09, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on December 09, 2013, 10:51:15 AM
In the tournament or early year challenges, not during the regular season. Just me.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: Coleman on December 09, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
The conference remains #3 in the RPI

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/conference

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
Title: Re: Some Good news this weekend
Post by: GooooMarquette on December 09, 2013, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 09, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
The conference remains #3 in the RPI

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/conference

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Compared to #1 or #2 each of the past four seasons, giving us a smaller margin for error.  Thanks for providing the numbers.

Edit:  I just realized that the link you provided to Realtime RPI currently has the BE at #4, behind the Big 12, Big 10 and Pac 12.  Even less margin for error compared to previous seasons....
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