Strotman: Jamil Wilson must become the Marquette heart and soulWhen Marquette stepped onto the Virgin Islands Sport & Fitness Center basketball floor to play Ole Miss almost exactly two years ago, expectations were high. The Golden Eagles had won their first three contests by an average of 95-59, were playing efficient basketball and had stars shining through. In those three games, Marquette had three [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=painttouches.com&blog=28348875&post=9593&subd=painttouches&ref=&feed=1" width="1" height="1" />
Source: Strotman: Jamil Wilson must become the Marquette heart and soul (http://painttouches.com/2013/11/22/strotman-jamil-wilson-must-become-the-marquette-heart-and-soul/)
Great article.
Couldn't agree more.
It was great to see him playing point against New Hampshire. He did well... for a guy who's never played point in a game before... and he could be good at it in 2-3 games. PLUS, it gets him the touches he needs to create, and we saw a few glimpses of that which could really turn into something special.
Most good players are even better when they have the ball at the top of the key. See Crowder, J. Putting Wilson at the point gives him lots more options with the ball and passing. Hope to see it more!
I sincerely hope Jamil proves he can be the heart and soul of this team in the way the article infers. My greatest fear this year is that he has already demonstrated that he is.
Jamil's biggest issue is that he hasn't been able to consistently create his own shot. Crowder could do it. DJO could do it. Wilson cannot, or just hasn't proven that he can.
His talent is evident, but for now he needs to take a few more chances on the court and see if he can be the "go-to-guy."
I do not think he has the same personality as those other players, he is more of a follower, not a leader. Has to become more aggressive, much like the Davidson game when he hit 2 threes in the last minute of the game. Be fearless, Buzz needs to instill that in him. Or hope Duane Wilson can lead the team, no one else can. Duane can get in the lane and he can
shot the 3, on the big stage, time will tell. He is more of a shooting point guard, so he might fit in perfectly if he becomes healthy.
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 22, 2013, 01:10:26 PMOr hope Duane Wilson can lead the team, no one else can. Duane can get in the lane and he can shot the 3, on the big stage, time will tell. He is more of a shooting point guard, so he might fit in perfectly if he becomes healthy.
I don't expect any freshman to lead this team. Wilson will have to get past Dawson in the pecking order before anyone even thinks about him leading this team. A redshirt wouldn't shock me.
The TV announcers said the same thing last night about that he should start looking for a shot or create his own. Said he was too good to be holding back so much.
Quote from: NCMUFan on November 22, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
The TV announcers said the same thing last night about that he should start looking for a shot or create his own. Said he was too good to be holding back so much.
as if the announcers knew dick about MU. DG is a terrible free throw shooter? Oh wait. He missed a ton. NM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 22, 2013, 02:26:36 PM
I don't expect any freshman to lead this team. Wilson will have to get past Dawson in the pecking order before anyone even thinks about him leading this team. A redshirt wouldn't shock me.
Brew have you seen this kid play? He is a me to type player, can shoot the three, can get in the lane, nothing from the other guards I have seen so far are in the same league as Duane. Now if he is not healthy, different story. He is not physically built, thin, wiry strong. Can create his own shot, would be a big addition. But playing at Dominican is a lot different than playing at the Bradley Center. Dawson has shown me little so far on the offensive end.
I don't necessarily disagree with the thesis of this article, but the comparison to Crowder is unfair. Crowder's combination of physicality, skill, heart, determination, and bball IQ made him an all time great for our program. Jamil may be capable of becoming our "heart and soul" this year, but he won't be the second coming of Jae.
Quote from: MUSF on November 22, 2013, 11:50:21 PM
I don't necessarily disagree with the thesis of this article, but the comparison to Crowder is unfair. Crowder's combination of physicality, skill, heart, determination, and bball IQ made him an all time great for our program. Jamil may be capable of becoming our "heart and soul" this year, but he won't be the second coming of Jae.
I actually think Jamil has a higher ceiling than Jae. He's more athletic, a better leaper, and a pure shot. What Jae had, that Jamil doesn't (yet) is that attitude of wanting the ball, wanting the shot, and making it happen under pressure.
Jamil is superior physically and skills-wise to JFB, Jae, Lazar. He is faster, he is longer, he skies higher. IMO, he is better at shooting 3's than JFB (never really his strength), not as good as the other two. He can get his shot off in traffic, not through strength or stealth, but by simply rising. By all accounts, he is a great teammate and student of the game. Buzz has said in the past that Jamil wants to understand everything about a play, a rotation, a set, instead of just running it.
Since he was in high school, Jamil has had a reputation for being soft. I don't think he is soft. I think he has deferred and has tried to be a good teammate and has trouble channeling his inner beast. We've all seen how he thrived as an undersized 5 next to Crowder. Over the last 3 years, we have seen him guard effectively all 5 positions at times. We've seen him hit a game-winner off a broken play and help bring us back against Davidson. What we haven't seen is him go out and dominate his opponent like Jae/Lazar/JFB. Refuse to lose. If you get scored on, come back tougher on the next play. But that is the guy this team needs. It needs him, in whatever capacity, at whatever position, to decide that HE IS THE MAN, and THIS IS HIS TEAM. No more deference.
All of the tools are there. The change has to happen between his ears and deep in his soul.
Quote from: tower912 on November 23, 2013, 09:34:01 AM
Jamil is superior physically and skills-wise to JFB, Jae, Lazar.
I do not agree with that at all.
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 22, 2013, 11:36:32 PM
Brew have you seen this kid play? He is a me to type player, can shoot the three, can get in the lane, nothing from the other guards I have seen so far are in the same league as Duane. Now if he is not healthy, different story. He is not physically built, thin, wiry strong. Can create his own shot, would be a big addition. But playing at Dominican is a lot different than playing at the Bradley Center. Dawson has shown me little so far on the offensive end.
Not as much as I probably should have, considering Dominican is 10 minutes up the road from me. But he is also a freshman who has missed quite a bit of time with injury and we don't know how close to 100% he'll be coming back. He also played with an All-American caliber center against primarily lower level competition. Yes, he had AAU success and did well against D1 teams, but even that is a far cry from doing it at a NCAA D1 level. I'm not placing my faith in a guy in that situation. I think over 4 years, Duane will be a stellar player for Marquette. But this year I don't expect that, and I'm not sure it's fair to Duane for anyone to have high expectations.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 23, 2013, 09:50:15 AM
I do not agree with that at all.
I know. We have disagreed about this for the last two years.
Quoting the SI College basketball preview of the MU basketball team:
"...it is Jamil Wilson....who will play the role made familiar by former Marquette star big men Jae Crowder, Jimmy Butler,and Lazar Hayward. Williams says Wilson is more athletically gifted than those three, all of whom appeared in the NBA last year. But the 6'7" small forward has yet to display the 'edge' those players had."
Quote from: tower912 on November 23, 2013, 10:12:16 AM
I know. We have disagreed about this for the last two years.
Quoting the SI College basketball preview of the MU basketball team:
"...it is Jamil Wilson....who will play the role made familiar by former Marquette star big men Jae Crowder, Jimmy Butler,and Lazar Hayward. Williams says Wilson is more athletically gifted than those three, all of whom appeared in the NBA last year. But the 6'7" small forward has yet to display the 'edge' those players had."
We need to find shooters fast on this team and Wilson does need to step up.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 23, 2013, 09:54:08 AM
Not as much as I probably should have, considering Dominican is 10 minutes up the road from me. But he is also a freshman who has missed quite a bit of time with injury and we don't know how close to 100% he'll be coming back. He also played with an All-American caliber center against primarily lower level competition. Yes, he had AAU success and did well against D1 teams, but even that is a far cry from doing it at a NCAA D1 level. I'm not placing my faith in a guy in that situation. I think over 4 years, Duane will be a stellar player for Marquette. But this year I don't expect that, and I'm not sure it's fair to Duane for anyone to have high expectations.
+1 I don't get the continuous expectation of Freshmen to have immediate impact. Didn't happen with Maymon. Didn't happen with Vander. Hasn't happened with JaJuan. We should take what we get with Freshmen--some have a first year like Todd, some end up like Jamal Ferguson.
Quote from: tower912 on November 23, 2013, 10:12:16 AM
I know. We have disagreed about this for the last two years.
Quoting the SI College basketball preview of the MU basketball team:
"...it is Jamil Wilson....who will play the role made familiar by former Marquette star big men Jae Crowder, Jimmy Butler,and Lazar Hayward. Williams says Wilson is more athletically gifted than those three, all of whom appeared in the NBA last year. But the 6'7" small forward has yet to display the 'edge' those players had."
He has certain physical gifts. But he doesn't have the quickness. That is the main reason he doesn't score much by putting the ball on the ground and taking it to the basket.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 24, 2013, 07:45:51 AM
He has certain physical gifts. But he doesn't have the quickness. That is the main reason he doesn't score much by putting the ball on the ground and taking it to the basket.
He also doesn't have the strength.
Physical tools aside, Jamil certainly lacks many of the intangibles Crowder possessed. I often think Jae was/is undervalued because so much of his game was between his ears. We will be lucky if we see another player like JC in the next 10.
J.Wilson is an NBA prospect and a senior so we need him to play as such. He is not living up to his potential and that is his responsibility. Time to take the bull by the horns Jamil. Man up.
How many wins will it take before Jamil gets SOTG?
Quote from: raul on November 25, 2013, 12:14:17 AM
J.Wilson is an NBA prospect and a senior so we need him to play as such. He is not living up to his potential and that is his responsibility. Time to take the bull by the horns Jamil. Man up.
I wonder what Jamil plans to do with his life. When you think of Vander, it was evident that he always wanted to play professional basketball. Last year, you could really see how driven he was to prove himself so he could get to the next level. While it didn't work, at least not in the regard of getting to the NBA, I feel like that drive and desire was always evident. Does Jamil want to play in the NBA? Maybe he does, but it certainly hasn't been as evident. The ability is there, but is the will?
MY HUMBLE THOUGHTS.. Tonights game should tell us a lot. I don't think Jamil will ever be the person MU needs to take charge. A good guy, but lacks the fire, toughness and energy to be the # 1 man. Unfortuneately, no one else is ready either. I like Juan A energy and work ethics, and you can forgive some lack of scoring ..for energy.
Longer term, thank God for the newcomers. I would be starting Deonte every game..and get him ready for taking over this team