Absolutely hard to believe we can be this bad offensively.
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 16, 2013, 01:47:27 PM
Absolutely hard to believe we can be this bad offensively.
Last year against Syracuse wasn't a thing of beauty
Offense starts with PG, enough said.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on November 16, 2013, 01:49:14 PM
Offense starts with PG, enough said.
Well, we clearly don't have one, so now what?
Everyone knew we'd be in trouble with Derrick Wilson running the point, but I don't believe anyone thought he would be this inept. He brings nothing to this team offensively. NOTHING.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on November 16, 2013, 01:49:14 PM
Offense starts with PG, enough said.
It's a guards game....I hear
Juan Anderson blows a layup and then blows the in bounds pass. Deduction: Something blows!
Wilson dribbles to a spot on the floor, and picks up his dribble. That then leads to a bad/awkward pass. Every. Single. Time.
Need to put the bull (Burton) in the game.
This hurts to watch. Need a change at PG. Way too hesitant at that position. It's like Syracuse all over again.
Quote from: Wade for President on November 16, 2013, 01:51:41 PM
Everyone knew we'd be in trouble with Derrick Wilson running the point, but I don't believe anyone thought he would be this inept. He brings nothing to this team offensively. NOTHING.
Oh, I'm not so sure...I think a few of us said long ago that he is not a starting PG caliber at this level.
We'll see, I don't want to give up on the kid but this is why I have preached for years that it is a guards game. Without good guards, especially point guards, you're sunk in the college game. Maybe D-Will can turn it around or our freshmen step up, but the PG is the engine and right now we are running on 2 cylinders at that spot.
This is where the loss of Vander really hurts, but he had other plans and listened to the wrong people, including himself. Need to get better at guard play...fast.
I don't want to hear any more about how Derrick is steady and doesn't make mistakes. He is not a Division I starter.
to think JJJ, BURTON AND DAWSON were all heavily recruited by other schools.. and im not surprised McKay Transferred..... Who wants to sit on the Bench.... for 40 Minutes..... behind taylor and wilson..
Quote from: Nevada233 on November 16, 2013, 01:59:45 PM
to think JJJ, BURTON AND DAWSON were all heavily recruited by other schools.. and im not surprised McKay Transferred..... Who wants to sit on the Bench.... for 40 Minutes..... behind taylor and wilson..
+1000
Buzz, please put the bench in! Jake Thomas and D Wilson do not look like they are D1 basketball players. I am convinced that Thomas cannot shoot and Wilson cannot distribute. Start Mayo and Dawson!
And clearly the "Wilson should be starting over Junior" last year was a crock.
Quote from: ecompt on November 16, 2013, 01:58:37 PM
I don't want to hear any more about how Derrick is steady and doesn't make mistakes. He is not a Division I starter.
Quote from: Nevada233 on November 16, 2013, 01:59:45 PM
to think JJJ, BURTON AND DAWSON were all heavily recruited by other schools.. and im not surprised McKay Transferred..... Who wants to sit on the Bench.... for 40 Minutes..... behind taylor and wilson..
I think that with a bench as deep as ours, we would have a little room to mix it up a bit. Get some hungry kids out there. Dawson, though a freshman, would be a change of pace. Button came in and in the first possession, attacked the rim. That's what you want to see. Too much fumbling around on the perimeter with NO paint touch.
Isn't the definition of stupidity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? Why the F do I still see JT and D Wilson on the floor when they haven't done crap all day long?!? C'mon Buzz!
I never thought we'd be in such dire straits where JT leads the team in minutes played.
Sorry Big East. Sorry Fox.
Call me harsh. Call me a jack a**. Call me whatever u want...but De. Wilson sucks. I dont see what u guys see in him. PLAY JOHN DAWSON AND JJJ PLEASE. I would bet my life that they are a better option. Heck, I wouldnt be suprised if they transfered.
Quote from: MUCrew on November 16, 2013, 02:03:10 PM
I think that with a bench as deep as ours, we would have a little room to mix it up a bit. Get some hungry kids out there. Dawson, though a freshman, would be a change of pace. Button came in and in the first possession, attacked the rim. That's what you want to see. Too much fumbling around on the perimeter with NO paint touch.
I guess that is where coaching comes in.
Quote from: MUCrew on November 16, 2013, 02:03:10 PM
I think that with a bench as deep as ours, we would have a little room to mix it up a bit. Get some hungry kids out there. Dawson, though a freshman, would be a change of pace. Button came in and in the first possession, attacked the rim. That's what you want to see. Too much fumbling around on the perimeter with NO paint touch.
Yessir.... I know high schools that Wilson and Thomas... WOULDNT Start for....... DAWSON AND JOHNSON TO NOT SEE ONE MINUTE.... WORST COACHED GAME OF WILLIAMS CAREER.....
35 points on your home court. Atrocious!!!
Think we can beat New Hampshire??
Quote from: Nevada233 on November 16, 2013, 02:09:09 PM
Yessir.... I know high schools that Wilson and Thomas... WOULDNT Start for....... DAWSON AND JOHNSON TO NOT SEE ONE MINUTE.... WORST COACHED GAME OF WILLIAMS CAREER.....
In Buzz we trust!
And JT thinks he is D. Wade out there. Please know your role and be a three point threat!
How in god's name do JJJ, Dawson, and Burton spend the entire day on the bench?
1 for 14 from JT and DWil. That's it. If Buzz doesn't make an adjustment by next game he's a freaking idiot.
Don't give me any "Buzz will figure it out", "it's early", etc.
I put this loss squarely on Buzz. Zero adjustments. Worst played and worst coached game in the Buzz era.
Pathetic.
Quote from: ecompt on November 16, 2013, 01:58:37 PM
I don't want to hear any more about how Derrick is steady and doesn't make mistakes. He is not a Division I starter.
Quite honestly, we have two guards that start that are not D-1 players.
Quote from: Dreadman24 on November 16, 2013, 02:06:47 PM
Call me harsh. Call me a jack a**. Call me whatever u want...but De. Wilson sucks. I dont see what u guys see in him. PLAY JOHN DAWSON AND JJJ PLEASE. I would bet my life that they are a better option. Heck, I wouldnt be suprised if they transfered.
No, no, he does so many things beyond not scoring that can't be measured in the box score. If you want proof, look at the Grambling box score where he was better than Dawson.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 16, 2013, 02:09:45 PM
35 points on your home court. Atrocious!!!
Think we can beat New Hampshire??
I will not sit and watch another game if De. Wilson and JT is in the starting line up. No way in hell they give us a better chance to win than our freshmen.
Free JJJ and John Dawson!
Quote from: Wade for President on November 16, 2013, 02:13:35 PM
unnatural carnal knowledge
How in god's name do JJJ, Dawson, and Burton spend the entire day on the bench?
1 for 14 from JT and DWil. That's it. If Buzz doesn't make an adjustment by next game he's a freaking idiot.
Don't give me any "Buzz will figure it out", "it's early", etc.
I put this loss squarely on Buzz. Zero adjustments. Worst played and worst coached game in the Buzz era.
Pathetic.
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Have to think something else going on here. The fact that Buzz kept his freshmen firmly planted on the pine leads me to think it is more than Buzz being a "freaking idiot"
There was most certainly a reason he did not play them. Curious what he says after the game.
He was better than Dawson v. Grambling. He was bad today.
But it wasn't entirely his fault. Jake can't shoot. Jamil is still a mystery. Todd isn't terribly efficient.
About the only thing you can say good about that game was that Taylor is a good rebounder.
Why was someone at Apartment 720 again?
Its 5 on 3 offensively when DWilson and Thomas are playing
65 years since we scored fewer than 36 points on our home court.
Worst performance in the shot clock era for MU ever. Unfortunately, we've heard that before. Two of our last four performances have been the worst scoring outputs for MU ever in the shot clock era (today and vs Syracuse...the one vs Syracuse was the worst of any NCAA tournament team ever).
Correction 1948, not 1946.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 16, 2013, 02:35:02 PM
67 years since we scored fewer than 36 points on our home court.
Worst performance in the shot clock era for MU ever. Unfortunately, we've heard that before. Two of our last four performances have been the worst scoring outputs for MU ever in the shot clock era (today and vs Syracuse...the one vs Syracuse was the worst of any NCAA tournament team ever).
Same problem. Terrible outside shooting.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 16, 2013, 02:36:45 PM
Same problem. Terrible outside shooting.
I would agree that is definitely a big part of it. We just look stagnant at times. Not a lot of flow, ball not in the right spot for guys to take good looks. Other times, we have great looks, but nothing goes down.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 16, 2013, 02:36:45 PM
Same problem. Terrible outside shooting.
An tOSU did a decent job of keeping the ball from going inside.
Quote from: Archies Bat on November 16, 2013, 03:38:21 PM
An tOSU did a decent job of keeping the ball from going inside.
Do you know how easy it is to keep the ball from going inside against Marquette. If I'm the opposing coach, I pack it in tighter than a Chicago el car at 5 p.m. until the Warriors can make at least three 3s. Only then do I even consider going outside the lane on D.
If the athleticism is equal, we are an incredibly easy team to guard.
I had no idea there were so many basketball geniuses here. It's clear you all know better than the one of the winningest coaches of the last 5 years