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Title: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: Retire54 on November 15, 2013, 11:19:19 AM
Couple little blurbs from NBC and SI about games this weekend-

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20131115/marquette-ohio-state-lead-friday-picks/

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/15/weekend-preview-ohio-state-takes-on-marquette-and-marshall-henderson-returns/

Also, was not aware the Badgers are going to Green Bay to play UWGB on Saturday night. Hopefully the day goes MU's way twice and Becky goes down.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: MarsupialMadness on November 15, 2013, 11:23:53 AM
Quote from: Retire54 on November 15, 2013, 11:19:19 AM
Also, was not aware the Badgers are going to Green Bay to play UWGB on Saturday night. Hopefully the day goes MU's way twice and Becky goes down.


I'm not a fan of the Badgers, but I hope they win every game they play outside of MU.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: Aughnanure on November 15, 2013, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on November 15, 2013, 11:23:53 AM
I'm not a fan of the Badgers, but I hope they win every game they play outside of MU.

So you hope they win the Big Ten and Nat'l Championship?
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: 79Warrior on November 15, 2013, 11:33:25 AM
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on November 15, 2013, 11:23:53 AM
I'm not a fan of the Badgers, but I hope they win every game they play outside of MU.

Yes. We need all the rpi help we can get.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 15, 2013, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: Retire54 on November 15, 2013, 11:19:19 AM

Also, was not aware the Badgers are going to Green Bay to play UWGB on Saturday night. Hopefully the day goes MU's way twice and Becky goes down.


I am no Wisconsin fan either, but I hate this attitude. Sure, it'd be cool if UWGB beat Wisco, but that in no way helps MU.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: bilsu on November 15, 2013, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 15, 2013, 11:50:31 AM
I am no Wisconsin fan either, but I hate this attitude. Sure, it'd be cool if UWGB beat Wisco, but that in no way helps MU.
It does not help MU, but it helps me feel good.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 15, 2013, 11:52:46 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 15, 2013, 11:33:25 AM
Yes. We need all the rpi help we can get.

Agreed.  In the old BE, we'd be fine if we just took care of business because our SOS would be pretty good just based on the strength of the conference.  Now, it's more important that teams like tOSU, UW-Madison, AZ State and New Mexico do well.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: tower912 on November 15, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
I prefer when he picks against MU, so we as fans can have that little underdog attitude.   Plus, it feels like bad luck to actually get picked. 
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: Benny B on November 15, 2013, 12:21:41 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 15, 2013, 11:33:25 AM
Yes. We need all the rpi help we can get.

Whatever..... there's no way the committee gives anything but the top #1 seed to a 34-0 team, regardless of their RPI.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: MarsupialMadness on November 15, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
Quote from: Benny B on November 15, 2013, 12:21:41 PM
Whatever..... there's no way the committee gives anything but the top #1 seed to a 34-0 team, regardless of their RPI.

During 1973 the North Carolina State Wolfpack finished the regular season 27–0 and ranked #2 (behind undefeated and eventual tournament champion UCLA) but were barred from participating in the NCAA tournament while on probation for recruiting violations.

During 1979, the Alcorn State University Braves finished the regular season 27–0, but did not receive an invitation to the NCAA Tournament. The Braves accepted a bid to the NIT, where they lost in the second round to eventual NIT champion Indiana
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: chapman on November 15, 2013, 03:32:52 PM
If we have to pull for the Badgers to win we're not going anywhere to begin with.  I'm just fine with them going Grambling status and us just taking care of our own business.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: Benny B on November 15, 2013, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on November 15, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
During 1973 the North Carolina State Wolfpack finished the regular season 27–0 and ranked #2 (behind undefeated and eventual tournament champion UCLA) but were barred from participating in the NCAA tournament while on probation for recruiting violations.

During 1979, the Alcorn State University Braves finished the regular season 27–0, but did not receive an invitation to the NCAA Tournament. The Braves accepted a bid to the NIT, where they lost in the second round to eventual NIT champion Indiana

Yeah.... well, they didn't go 34-0 now, did they?
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: MU_Beav on November 15, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 15, 2013, 11:50:31 AM
I am no Wisconsin fan either, but I hate this attitude. Sure, it'd be cool if UWGB beat Wisco, but that in no way helps MU.

They ARE a rival.  You root for them to lose unless them winning benefits the school that you root for.  To me, it makes perfect sense and its a natural part of the fabric that makes collegiate sports special.  I hate the Badgers and am happy to admit as much...
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: klyrish on November 15, 2013, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: bilsu on November 15, 2013, 11:52:27 AM
It does not help MU, but it helps me feel good.
+1

Quote from: siliconwarrior on November 15, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
They ARE a rival.  You root for them to lose unless them winning benefits the school that you root for.  To me, it makes perfect sense and its a natural part of the fabric that makes collegiate sports special.  I hate the Badgers and am happy to admit as much...
+1
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: bradley center bat on November 15, 2013, 08:26:18 PM
Wisconsin at Green Bay is on TWCSC at 7pm.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: hairy worthen on November 15, 2013, 08:40:18 PM
I hope WI loses in horrific fashion every game they play. I also hope they are placed on probation and die a slow and painful death and that goes for football too, but thats just me.

That rpi stuff is nonsense. If mu wins their games they will get a high seed. Worrying about rpi and s.o.s. is what bubble teams and losers do. We need to start thinking like blue bloods to become a blue blood.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on November 16, 2013, 12:08:57 AM
If MU wins tomorrow, it will be a huge statement for the program and for the Big East Conference. It will do as much, if not more, for the national perception of Marquette and the sustained (I won't call it new) Big East Conference, as it will our RPI.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: MUfan12 on November 16, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on November 16, 2013, 12:08:57 AM
If MU wins tomorrow, it will be a huge statement for the program and for the Big East Conference. It will do as much, if not more, for the national perception of Marquette and the sustained (I won't call it new) Big East Conference, as it will our RPI.

It's a game in November, let's not go crazy. Everyone will be watching football.

The best way to build up the national perception of the league is to get a bunch of teams into the dance, and win there.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: cheebs09 on November 16, 2013, 09:54:36 AM
Seth must know the Bucks struggle to win in the Bradley Center.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: Eldon on November 16, 2013, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: siliconwarrior on November 15, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
They ARE a rival.  You root for them to lose unless them winning benefits the school that you root for.  To me, it makes perfect sense and its a natural part of the fabric that makes collegiate sports special.  I hate the Badgers and am happy to admit as much...

"Unless them winning benefits the school that you root for"

It does. Every Wisconsin win helps our RPI. Will it be the difference between a 1 and 2 seed? Probably not, but its not meaningless either (like SoS is in the NFL).

I dont know about you guys, but i care more about Marquette having an easy path to the FF than i do rubbing a UW loss in a badgers fan's face.  I would argue that if you don't, then youre not really an MU fan, but rather a UW-hater who just so happens to also root for Marquette (or perhaps much too casual a fan to know that RPI affects our seeding)

Im willing to change my opinion if someone shows me that the rpi difference between a wisconsin 12th place big ten finish and a first place finish has no impact on our seeding, AP ranking, etc. (ie, im too casual a fan to know that RPI really doesnt affect our seeding)

Clearly its best for MU if wisconsin turns into Grambling. But lets be real, its not happening anytime soon.  If you claim every uw loss brings them closer to grambling status, then i would say youre hopelessly idealistic and have too much foresight for sports, especially one with a four-year roster turnover.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: DavidBoone2inchesTaller on November 16, 2013, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 16, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
It's a game in November, let's not go crazy. Everyone will be watching football.

The best way to build up the national perception of the league is to get a bunch of teams into the dance, and win there.

No, I disagree. All of the cbb pundits will be watching closely to see how the sustained Big East teams measure up against teams from other conferences. A win against Ohio State, won't end the "Big East isn't as strong" talk, but it will be a huge start toward ending that talk.
Title: Re: Seth Davis picks MU win
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 16, 2013, 02:57:43 PM
Seth Davis sucks
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