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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 14, 2013, 09:46:04 PM

Title: South Dakota St.
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 14, 2013, 09:46:04 PM
Lost tonight. Marquette currently holds the longest home win streak in the nation.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: Newsdreams on November 14, 2013, 09:49:24 PM
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Quote from: esard2011 on November 14, 2013, 09:46:04 PM
Lost tonight. Marquette currently holds the longest home win streak in the nation.
;D let's keep it going Sat.!
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: brewcity77 on November 14, 2013, 10:00:01 PM
Do we really?

http://nashvillepost.com/blogs/postsports/2013/11/14/success_at_home_prompts_mtsu_hoops_to_turn_attention_to_south_dakota

I've seen a few articles with Middle Tennessee State claiming their current home winning streak is longest in the nation at 30 games. By my count, Marquette has a 27-game winning streak. I have two issues with their claim...

1) Their first win in this alleged 30-game streak started with a game against Cumberland, TN, which is not a D1 team.
2) They lost a NIT game in the middle of the streak against Minnesota. Yes, it was a postseason game, maybe why they don't count it, but then why do they count a win at home in the NIT over Marshall?
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: warriorchick on November 14, 2013, 10:07:50 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 14, 2013, 10:00:01 PM
Do we really?

http://nashvillepost.com/blogs/postsports/2013/11/14/success_at_home_prompts_mtsu_hoops_to_turn_attention_to_south_dakota

I've seen a few articles with Middle Tennessee State claiming their current home winning streak is longest in the nation at 30 games. By my count, Marquette has a 27-game winning streak. I have two issues with their claim...

1) Their first win in this alleged 30-game streak started with a game against Cumberland, TN, which is not a D1 team.
2) They lost a NIT game in the middle of the streak against Minnesota. Yes, it was a postseason game, maybe why they don't count it, but then why do they count a win at home in the NIT over Marshall?

Eff MTSU.   I go by the official NCAA list.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: brewcity77 on November 14, 2013, 10:13:54 PM
That's part of the problem...currently the NCAA doesn't have any official streak stats on their website. I know they did last year, this year, not so much.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: warriorchick on November 14, 2013, 10:23:02 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 14, 2013, 10:13:54 PM
That's part of the problem...currently the NCAA doesn't have any official streak stats on their website. I know they did last year, this year, not so much.

I blame Larry Williams.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: keefe on November 14, 2013, 10:33:18 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on November 14, 2013, 10:23:02 PM
I blame Larry Williams.

And that sonuvabitch Crean
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: TallTitan34 on November 14, 2013, 11:05:48 PM
Middle Tennessee is all over twitter about owning the streak.  I don't think they do.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 14, 2013, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on November 14, 2013, 10:23:02 PM
I blame Larry Williams.

Val Acker...what a @#$@%
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 14, 2013, 11:21:57 PM
Warren Nolan says it is Marquette with Belmont second...at the bottom

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2014/stats


Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: TallTitan34 on November 14, 2013, 11:48:34 PM
Going by ESPN I count 30 if you don't count postseason games. But a postseason loss at home is still a home loss is it not?
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 15, 2013, 12:00:46 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 14, 2013, 11:48:34 PM
Going by ESPN I count 30 if you don't count postseason games. But a postseason loss at home is still a home loss is it not?

You can define it anyway you want.

1)  Longest home win streak.
2)  Longest regular season home win streak.
3)  Longest home win streak against teams not beginning with the letters "L" or "T".

Currently, Middle Tennessee is using #2, but if they lose soon, maybe they'll switch to #3.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: brewcity77 on November 15, 2013, 12:28:33 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on November 15, 2013, 12:00:46 AM
You can define it anyway you want.

1)  Longest home win streak.
2)  Longest regular season home win streak.
3)  Longest home win streak against teams not beginning with the letters "L" or "T".

Currently, Middle Tennessee is using #2, but if they lose soon, maybe they'll switch to #3.

There's a problem with that one, too. If their streak is 30, you have to include their win over Marshall...which was a home game in the NIT.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: wardle2wade on November 15, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 14, 2013, 10:13:54 PM
That's part of the problem...currently the NCAA doesn't have any official streak stats on their website. I know they did last year, this year, not so much.

The NCAA has published the home winning streak online in past years... looks like due to reformatting their online records are dead now though.  At the end of last year, MU was #2 behind South Dakota State on this ncaa page, so I'm considering it official.

Here's the dead link fyi... I had it bookmarked.

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings?sportCode=MBB&doWhat=showstreaks&division=1
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 15, 2013, 10:30:30 AM
We are 1st.

It was said in multiple games last year towards end of season that we were second to South Dakota state.

During the grambling game it was probably said 10 times.

Middle Tennessee fans are in the vast minority saying otherwise.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: MerrittsMustache on November 15, 2013, 10:40:22 AM
If we don't count losses, Marquette's home winning streak is probably over 1,000. That's got to be the current record, right?

Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: Aughnanure on November 15, 2013, 10:44:14 AM
BTW - it looks like Kentucky owns the record with 129 in a row! They didn't lose at home for more than a decade b/t 1943-55.

The key to being very good/great in college ball is winning your home games. If we start off conference record with 9 wins at home, suddenly getting to 12, 13, and 14 looks much easier.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: jsglow on November 15, 2013, 10:55:06 AM
And the NATIONAL TV audience will be reminded both before and AFTER evil OSU is destroyed tomorrow!  Eat it MTSU.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: Coleman on November 15, 2013, 12:06:06 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 15, 2013, 10:44:14 AM

The key to being very good/great in college ball is winning your home games. If we start off conference record with 9 wins at home, suddenly getting to 12, 13, and 14 looks much easier.

It also generally says something about your home court advantage/fans/students.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: spartan3186 on November 15, 2013, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 15, 2013, 10:44:14 AM
BTW - it looks like Kentucky owns the record with 129 in a row! They didn't lose at home for more than a decade b/t 1943-55.

And that's nothing compared to UCLA in the 70's when they won 88 straight games. They also won an absurd 38 straight NCAA tournament games between 1963/64 and 1973/74.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: boyonthedock on November 15, 2013, 04:03:11 PM
Its really lucky more than anything. Most of the top teams win 90%+ at home. Just getting that 90 to hit more than ten times is pretty tough. Just look at Junior's miracle shot last year against UCONN. That's how these streaks are built. Ol' Racist Rupp's streak is back before fun things like conferences and shot clocks and 3's and black dudes so it can go pound sand.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: Benny B on November 15, 2013, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: boyonthedock on November 15, 2013, 04:03:11 PM
Its really lucky more than anything. Most of the top teams win 90%+ at home. Just getting that 90 to hit more than ten times is pretty tough. Just look at Junior's miracle shot last year against UCONN. That's how these streaks are built. Ol' Racist Rupp's streak is back before fun things like conferences and shot clocks and 3's and black dudes so it can go pound sand.

Nothin' more fun than watching a black dude in the conference championship shoot a three as the shot clock expires.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: ecompt on November 16, 2013, 09:41:26 AM
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 15, 2013, 10:44:14 AM
BTW - it looks like Kentucky owns the record with 129 in a row! They didn't lose at home for more than a decade b/t 1943-55.

The key to being very good/great in college ball is winning your home games. If we start off conference record with 9 wins at home, suddenly getting to 12, 13, and 14 looks much easier.

Problem with that Kentucky recoird is that part of it was done by players who were later banned for shaving points.
Title: Re: South Dakota St.
Post by: keefe on November 16, 2013, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: ecompt on November 16, 2013, 09:41:26 AM
Problem with that Kentucky recoird is that part of it was done by players who were later banned for shaving points.

Kinda like Shoeless Joe Jackson having the highest BA in the 1919 World Series. Imagine if he were really trying
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