Good to see Jake hit back to back 3's.
7 guys in double digits.
I predicted that nobody was going to dominate minutes and that the frosh would get lots of run.
Sloppy defense.
More new fouls called tonight than against Southern.
Bad free throw shooting is contagious.
Deonte passes about as often as Todd.
Glorified scrimmage.
Glad no one got hurt.
8 guys in double figures and Mayo was dishing it around tonight, quiet 10 ptd
26% from the 3 point line
59% ft mades
good effort and lots to work on.
Deonte is awesome, those were all good shots. 4-5 of them rimmed out. Watching that game you can tell who's game will transfer against high competition. I think Deonte will have a strong impact this year.
Another bottom line...
The Derrick Wilson debate will continue. It looks awful (even worse with Dylan Flood getting on the floor) that he was the only player to have 0 points. But, he did have 10 assists and just 1 turnover.
Espn has Derrick with 7 assists
Quote from: esotericmindguy on November 12, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
Deonte is awesome, those were all good shots. 4-5 of them rimmed out. Watching that game you can tell who's game will transfer against high competition. I think Deonte will have a strong impact this year.
Deonte had a strong game, but I'm not expecting much from him Saturday. Won't be able to physically overpower bigger defenders like he did tonight.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on November 12, 2013, 09:33:51 PM
Espn has Derrick with 7 assists
I swear I saw it with 7 assist for Derrick also, but just looked and it is now 10. Dawson, who I swear had 4 assists before, now also has 6.
Apparently, Grambling did so bad, we are still getting assists long after the game is over.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on November 12, 2013, 09:33:51 PM
Espn has Derrick with 7 assists
The ESPN recap article (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400504459 (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400504459)) and the box score now both say that he had 10 assists (a career high, according to the article). Anyway, the debate is on.
Quote from: forgetful on November 12, 2013, 09:41:20 PM
I swear I saw it with 7 assist for Derrick also, but just looked and it is now 10. Dawson, who I swear had 4 assists before, now also has 6.
Apparently, Grambling did so bad, we are still getting assists long after the game is over.
Taylor just hit another 3 pointer... .lol
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on November 12, 2013, 09:35:34 PM
Deonte had a strong game, but I'm not expecting much from him Saturday. Won't be able to physically overpower bigger defenders like he did tonight.
No me neither, to early. But he'll be solid.
I really don't like criticizing the schedule, but I'm wondering how this was better than a good practice?
Or picking the best 10 players at the rec center and scrimmaging them?
Quote from: tower912 on November 12, 2013, 08:46:06 PM
Good to see Jake hit back to back 3's.
7 guys in double digits.
I predicted that nobody was going to dominate minutes and that the frosh would get lots of run.
Sloppy defense.
More new fouls called tonight than against Southern.
Bad free throw shooting is contagious.
Deonte passes about as often as Todd.
Glorified scrimmage.
Glad no one got hurt.
Nice recap, tower.
All I could think about the last 6 minutes or so was that I hope Jamil or Davante or Taylor or Otule don't get hurt.
Tied a MU record for most assists in a game. Only seven turnovers in a track meet. An incredible 76 PIP's + 19 free throws made equals 95 points in the lane. MU was working the free throw lane line spot up with Taylor and Burton. A very, very efficient game.
It was pretty easy to get assists tonight. Our bigs set up shop below the hoop whenever they wanted and Grambling did nothing to try and prevent any kind of entry pass. That's easily the worst D1 team I've ever seen defensively, and I have a feeling they had to shoot lights out in order to get to 70.
Quote from: tower912 on November 12, 2013, 08:46:06 PM
Good to see Jake hit back to back 3's.
7 guys in double digits.
I predicted that nobody was going to dominate minutes and that the frosh would get lots of run.
Sloppy defense.
More new fouls called tonight than against Southern.
Bad free throw shooting is contagious.
Deonte passes about as often as Todd.
Glorified scrimmage.
Glad no one got hurt.
Agree but for one point. Deonte took 15 shots and had 1 assist in 22 minutes. Todd took 6 shots and had 4 assists (and 3 boards, 1 steal and 0 turnovers) in 17.
Fourth best MU offensively efficient game in advanced stats history.
edit below with link
Quote from: mug644 on November 12, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
The ESPN recap article (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400504459 (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400504459)) and the box score now both say that he had 10 assists (a career high, according to the article). Anyway, the debate is on.
I love this quote from the recap.....
"I sat down toward the end of the night, which that happens like two minutes per year," Williams said. "I was like, man, I love sitting down. This is great. The whole world looks different."
"As soon as they fire me, I'm going to be the best assistant ever, ever," Williams said laughing out loud. "I just love sitting here."
Buzz is a hoot
Quote from: Bleuteaux on November 12, 2013, 10:23:25 PM
"As soon as they fire me, I'm going to be the best assistant ever, ever," Williams said laughing out loud. "I just love sitting here."
WATCH YOUR BACK, WAINWRIGHT!
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 12, 2013, 10:21:45 PM
Second best MU offensively efficient game in advanced stats history.
Wow, another reason why stats can be overrated
Quote from: brandx on November 12, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
Wow, another reason why stats can be overrated
Or undervalued in a blow out. In essentially a ProAm game, the low number of turnovers, especially with the frosh and hockey lines, was the one stat that popped for me.
I wonder how many points we would of scored, if our point guards could shoot?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 12, 2013, 10:21:45 PM
Second best MU offensively efficient game in advanced stats history.
Sorry...fourth best going back to 97-98...still
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/stats?season1=1997&season2=2013&conf=&team=marquette&stat=efficiency
Todd had a quiet 10 points but really impressed me. Didnt force anything, had nice drives and kicks. Very quiet night for Todd but he made the most of it. Really, really impressed with his performance even though it hasnt been mentioned much.
I was impressed with John Dawson's passes feeding the bigs in the post
Quote from: jtbh6b1 on November 12, 2013, 09:59:10 PM
I really don't like criticizing the schedule, but I'm wondering how this was better than a good practice?
Or picking the best 10 players at the rec center and scrimmaging them?
Agreed. This was really a playground scrimmage. Good to get everybody involved, but Grambling ain't no TheOSU!
Quote from: bilsu on November 12, 2013, 11:43:34 PM
I wonder how many points we would of scored, if our point guards could shoot?
I think most already know that De. Wilson cannot shoot well. And so far, he is hardly taking any shots. Where this will hurt us is in tight games where our scorers are being well defended. Then Derek will need to step up and make some--and at better than a 30% clip. Hope he is up to the task.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 13, 2013, 12:09:38 PM
I think most already know that De. Wilson cannot shoot well. And so far, he is hardly taking any shots. Where this will hurt us is in tight games where our scorers are being well defended. Then Derek will need to step up and make some--and at better than a 30% clip. Hope he is up to the task.
If the "best defensive guard in the country" doesn't have to consider the chance of Wilson shooting on Saturday, will Wilson even be able to do the things he does well?
Quote from: mug644 on November 12, 2013, 09:26:53 PM
Another bottom line...
The Derrick Wilson debate will continue. It looks awful (even worse with Dylan Flood getting on the floor) that he was the only player to have 0 points. But, he did have 10 assists and just 1 turnover.
That TO was our first posession - about 10 seconds into the game, so he shook it off nicely. He's still very pedestrian out there.
He just doesn't create enough offensively to get this team where it needs to be. Use him to grind down other guards.
Buzz has hinted that his leadership abilities have expanded quite a bit which is good for Derrick and the team - but his game is very limited. Keep him in the same type of role he had last year; that is his best chance to be successful night in and night out.
Turnover stats are somewhat subjective. I remember the first play that Derrick had a turnover on. There also was another play in the second half where he threw an amazing pass to Taylor that caught Taylor by surprise and it went through his hands. They must of gave that turnover to Taylor. It is kind like interceptions in football. There are interceptions where the quarterback just simply throws a bad pass. There are interceptions, because the receiver runs the wrong route. There are interceptions after the ball gets deflected by the receiver. Than there are the bad passes that should of been intercepted, but the defensive player just drops the ball.
Quote from: bilsu on November 13, 2013, 03:37:01 PM
Turnover stats are somewhat subjective. I remember the first play that Derrick had a turnover on. There also was another play in the second half where he threw an amazing pass to Taylor that caught Taylor by surprise and it went through his hands. They must of gave that turnover to Taylor. It is kind like interceptions in football. There are interceptions where the quarterback just simply throws a bad pass. There are interceptions, because the receiver runs the wrong route. There are interceptions after the ball gets deflected by the receiver. Than there are the bad passes that should of been intercepted, but the defensive player just drops the ball.
If they gave that one to Taylor it is like giving an error to the shortstop when the 3rd basemen bobbles the ball.
It was the right idea by DW and the ball was on target - BUT it was like a 100 mph fastball from 5 feet away. I don't think anyone would have handled that pass.