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Title: Southern Game Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 08, 2013, 06:51:15 PM
Jags are hairy wet cats (haven't heard that line on scoop in a while).

Tonight, we dine on Jaguar livers.

GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!!

Legs, is this doable?
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 08, 2013, 07:00:30 PM
Scott Merrit doing radio instead of Mac.  What is that about?
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: denverMU on November 08, 2013, 07:01:25 PM
Students are there, where the hell is everybody else?
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 08, 2013, 07:08:18 PM
WARRIORS!  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: denverMU on November 08, 2013, 07:08:53 PM
17:52 announcers first reference to the Marquette Warriors!
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 08, 2013, 07:09:32 PM
Michigan tied at half. Syracuse trails at half.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 08, 2013, 07:11:04 PM
I hope y'all not cramping at the Bradley!
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 08, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
good lord. 6 fouls on southern with 12 minutes left.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 08, 2013, 07:22:56 PM
No JJJ yet
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: MattyWarrior on November 08, 2013, 07:26:33 PM
Mac ate to much at Wards House of Prime!
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 08, 2013, 07:32:30 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 08, 2013, 07:22:56 PM
No JJJ yet

Now in.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: muwarrior97 on November 08, 2013, 07:39:53 PM
Have not reviewed full thread BUT curious have we had a "practice free throws thread" yet? Of course not for OX
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 08, 2013, 07:47:48 PM
5 pt lead?  ::)
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: nyg on November 08, 2013, 07:53:02 PM
Quote from: muwarrior97 on November 08, 2013, 07:39:53 PM
Have not reviewed full thread BUT curious have we had a "practice free throws thread" yet? Of course not for OX

Yup, Otule is 1 for 4 and Derrick Wilson 0 for 2. 
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 08, 2013, 08:00:00 PM
This doesn't look like a #17 team.

The bench is going to be suspect as they're as green as they get.

Al's right: the best thing about freshmen is that they become sophomores.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: nyg on November 08, 2013, 08:04:25 PM
Southern took 35 FG attempts to MU's 19.  Really??????

J. Wilson took 3 shots.

D. Wilson took no shots.

Southern had 2 FT attempts, MU had 21 FT attempts.  Fouls were 15 for Southern and 5 for MU.  Crazy........
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 08, 2013, 08:05:55 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 08, 2013, 08:00:00 PM
This doesn't look like a #17 team.

The bench is going to be suspect as they're as green as they get.

Al's right: the best thing about freshmen is that they become sophomores.

I have been reluctant for weeks to anoint this team until (A) We know what we are getting from DeWilson/Mayo/Jake and (B) I hate having to count on freshmen. 
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: chapman on November 08, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: nyg on November 08, 2013, 08:04:25 PM
Southern took 35 FG attempts to MU's 19.  Really??????

J. Wilson took 3 shots.

D. Wilson took no shots.

Southern had 2 FT attempts, MU had 21 FT attempts.  Fouls were 15 for Southern and 5 for MU.  Crazy........

21 free throws to 2.  But even then the Wilsons only made it to the line once each, and when Derrick gets there its basically a turnover.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: Norm on November 08, 2013, 08:17:06 PM
MU not looking too good to start the 2nd half. Southern seems to want this game more right now.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: mugrack on November 08, 2013, 08:17:21 PM
Meritt sucks at talking
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: ecompt on November 08, 2013, 08:23:51 PM
Quote from: Norm on November 08, 2013, 08:17:06 PM
MU not looking too good to start the 2nd half. Southern seems to want this game more right now.

Southern thinks it can win this game, and that's dangerous.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 08, 2013, 08:26:22 PM
Quote from: ecompt on November 08, 2013, 08:23:51 PM
Southern thinks it can win this game, and that's dangerous.

I concur. Their confidence won't sag and they won't despair.

Listening to Scott is like hanging out with a friend kicking back some beverages: too casual, little insight, needs to shut up more.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: muwarrior97 on November 08, 2013, 08:34:04 PM
Give it to the Buckets machine
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on November 08, 2013, 08:38:27 PM
I think  buzz knows he's got the game and he's letting the young kids play.  We could blow this team out, and should even with the freshmen, but he wants to put them in a position where they have a little pressure early. TM looks good.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 08, 2013, 08:41:12 PM
Yeah, I know. If it was a "tougher" opponent, the frosh would rarely see the wood.
That said, I think Buzz is still sorting out his starters and his bench, especially the frosh and who he can trust.

I can tell you that I trust Derrick...

To miss FTs. smh
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: muwarrior97 on November 08, 2013, 08:48:19 PM
Mayo plays like this we gonna be alright in the backcourt
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on November 08, 2013, 08:49:20 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 08, 2013, 08:41:12 PM
Yeah, I know. If it was a "tougher" opponent, the frosh would rarely see the wood.
That said, I think Buzz is still sorting out his starters and his bench, especially the frosh and who he can trust.

I can tell you that I trust Derrick...

To miss FTs. smh
I'm right there with you on that. I like how J Dawson looks and can't wait for Duane to be back.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: nyg on November 08, 2013, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: muwarrior97 on November 08, 2013, 08:48:19 PM
Mayo plays like this we gonna be alright in the backcourt

Maybe one half of it. 
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: MattyWarrior on November 08, 2013, 08:49:51 PM
Otule at 46% FT? That is beyond awful. 
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: AZWarrior on November 08, 2013, 08:51:34 PM
Otule needs to lift some weights.  He's clearly not strong enough to get the ball all the way to the cylinder.  However, he's quite consistent at hitting the front of the rim.  :-(
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on November 08, 2013, 08:52:31 PM
I love the way TM is playing. Good D and confident on O.

Anyone else think Southern's unis are too big?
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 08, 2013, 08:54:56 PM
Mayo seems confident.   CO looks like he is having depth perception issues.   The shots are on-line, off distance.   Gardner starting to miss free throws.   That crap gets contagious.   C'mon boys.   Make the freebies. 
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on November 08, 2013, 08:57:21 PM
Is STJ hurting or just playing poorly?
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 08, 2013, 08:58:16 PM
Started the second half, got a couple of boards, missed a couple of shots, started sitting.      Bad FT shooting is contagious.     Damn
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: nyg on November 08, 2013, 09:01:32 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 08, 2013, 08:58:16 PM
Started the second half, got a couple of boards, missed a couple of shots, started sitting.      Bad FT shooting is contagious.     Damn

Otule and D. Wilson are 3 for 12 from FT line with four to go. Thats 9 points
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: MattyWarrior on November 08, 2013, 09:02:07 PM
Mayo looks good,nice change of direction and his rebounding is solid!
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 08, 2013, 09:03:04 PM
Gardner is 3-7 in the second half.   Mayo isn't much better.  26-41  FT's  after Mayo's two makes.  
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: AZWarrior on November 08, 2013, 09:03:23 PM
I just watched #0 so obviously, blatently travel, at 4:22 left in the game for those with DVRs, 3 feet in front of the ref, who was oblivious.  I don't expect them to see everything, but....
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 08, 2013, 09:06:20 PM
STjr, not the time for that 3.   If that is so open, take it to the friggin rack. 
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: barfolomew on November 08, 2013, 09:08:43 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 08, 2013, 08:58:16 PM
Started the second half, got a couple of boards, missed a couple of shots, started sitting.      Bad FT shooting is contagious.     Damn

Yes. Just ask Southern. Currently at 11.1%
Missed FTs -- the gift that gives back.

Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 08, 2013, 09:19:18 PM
Well, we're much better handling the press... ::)
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: muwarrior97 on November 08, 2013, 09:20:20 PM
U.G.L.Y. BUT got da W
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 08, 2013, 09:22:33 PM
W
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: nyg on November 08, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
Where to even start with these stats, just insane.

FGs Southern had 59 attempts, MU had 36..

FTs Southern was 6 for 16, while MU was 33 for 53.  Those stats are unreal.  27 more fts than Southern and MU missed 20.

MU out rebounded 38 to 35

MU starting five had 15 points, 10 of which were by J. Wilson. 

Taylor   0 points, 0 for 4
Thomas 2 points, 0 for 3
Otule    2 points, 0 for 0
Anderson 0 points, 0 for 1
D. Wilson 1 point, 0 for 0

D. Wilson 0 for 0 FG, 1 for 4 FTs, 4 rebs, 3 assists, 2 TOs.  Same as last year, nothing new. 

Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: willie warrior on November 08, 2013, 09:37:44 PM
Ox and Mayo did all the heavy lifting. Both looked good.

Burton looked pretty good out there.

Otule and De. Wilson cannot make FT's. Team FT shooting needs to improve.

Anderson and Thomas need to spend more time on the pines.

Not a very good opener, but we won, which is a good thing.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: Retire54 on November 08, 2013, 09:46:26 PM
Here's my two cents...

1. I started out worrying about only the 1 and 2, but by the second half I realized that with Mayo's play, really the spots to worry about are the 1 and the 3. Derrick didn't look great but hopefully he settles in. The back-up to Jamil at the 3 is quite important and it seems empty right now. It will be interesting to see if Juan and Deonte can back Jamil up adequately. Playing Jake Thomas and Mayo at the same time should never be an option.

2. Jake Thomas needs to have his minutes dropped. I do not understand anybody who says he needs more minutes. If he could play a Lockett role I'd be all for it but he simple does nothing at high major D1 level.

3. This team has serious potential. But I think that depends mostly on the freshmen. We need the back-ups to give quality minutes because I think Marquette could be top 10 material if our best 5 played the whole game. Absurd, I know, but unlike last year I don't see our depth being our strong point this year. Less 5 man switches.

I watched on the grainiest feed possible so my excitement for MU basketball might be overriding the actual play tonight. But I saw lots of good in the 7 point win over Southern.

Also--Josh Smith v. Gardner is going to be an awesome matchup to watch
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 08, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
I didn't see one second of this game. Just saw the ESPN crawl occasionally and couldn't believe we couldn't put away the Little Sisters of the Poor.

But, yes, it's the opener. Looking at the minutes, it's clear Buzz was just trying to see what he has. I get that, and I'm not a panicky type on Scoop or anywhere else.

And looking at the stats, my No. 1 concern going into the season is unchanged: Derrick Wilson has shown nothing to suggest he is a high-major starting PG. How many legitimate contenders have a starting PG who can't make a 3, can't make a J and brick more than half of his FTs? You can't beat good teams getting that from the PG position.

That Derrick played 34 minutes speaks volumes about what Buzz thinks of the alternatives, and that might be the scariest thing of all.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 08, 2013, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: MU82 on November 08, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
I didn't see one second of this game. Just saw the ESPN crawl occasionally and couldn't believe we couldn't put away the Little Sisters of the Poor.

But, yes, it's the opener. Looking at the minutes, it's clear Buzz was just trying to see what he has. I get that, and I'm not a panicky type on Scoop or anywhere else.

And looking at the stats, my No. 1 concern going into the season is unchanged: Derrick Wilson has shown nothing to suggest he is a high-major starting PG. How many legitimate contenders have a starting PG who can't make a 3, can't make a J and brick more than half of his FTs? You can't beat good teams getting that from the PG position.

That Derrick played 34 minutes speaks volumes about what Buzz thinks of the alternatives, and that might be the scariest thing of all.

Little Sisters of the Poor????

You realize that this team is the odds on favorite to win the SWAC, right?

And last year after winning said conference came awfully close to being the first 16 seed to beat a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament, right? 

Lost to Gonzaga by just six points, right?

Save the Little Sisters of the Poor stuff for Grambling, they deserve it.
Title: Re: Southern Game Thread
Post by: brandx on November 08, 2013, 11:12:34 PM
Quote from: Retire54 on November 08, 2013, 09:46:26 PM
Here's my two cents...

2. Jake Thomas needs to have his minutes dropped. I do not understand anybody who says he needs more minutes. If he could play a Lockett role I'd be all for it but he simple does nothing at high major D1 level.

3. This team has serious potential. But I think that depends mostly on the freshmen. We need the back-ups to give quality minutes because I think Marquette could be top 10 material if our best 5 played the whole game. Absurd, I know, but unlike last year I don't see our depth being our strong point this year. Less 5 man switches.


2. I would be willing to bet that Jake will not see 22 minutes again this year. This is what Buzz does early in the season.

3. I think depth will be very important by the time we start the league season with a couple of freshman helping win some games later.
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