I just wanted to highlight the ESPN link below for the 2013-2014 season:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/preview2013/story/_/page/13predictions/predictions-college-basketball-season
Adrian Branch: Marquette in Final 4
Myron Medcalf: Buzz Williams is Coach of the Year
::)
One of the other "experts" predicted Harvard in the Final Four...so there's that.
Quote from: JWags85 on November 07, 2013, 10:18:55 AM
One of the other "experts" predicted Harvard in the Final Four...so there's that.
So, one for Harvard and one for the Harvard of the Midwest. Sweet.
NM.
Rock Chalk......Jayhawk....K........U.......
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 07, 2013, 11:31:42 AM
Rock Chalk......Jayhawk....K........U.......
This is why we can't have nice things on this board.
Quote from: JWags85 on November 07, 2013, 10:18:55 AM
One of the other "experts" predicted Harvard in the Final Four...so there's that.
The key in this being that it wasn't Branch or Medcalf.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 07, 2013, 11:31:42 AM
Rock Chalk......Jayhawk....K........U.......
You know, college hoops would probably be so much more enjoyable if I was a fan of 274 different D-I teams.
Quote from: Benny B on November 07, 2013, 04:33:57 PM
You know, college hoops would probably be so much more enjoyable if I was a fan of 274 different D-I teams.
Probably true, that's why I just stick the universities I attended. Makes it much more manageable
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 08, 2013, 08:09:38 AM
Probably true, that's why I just stick the universities I attended. Makes it much more manageable
I live in Chicago now, but that doesn't mean I'm a Bears fan.
On top of that, the fact that the other two programs you follow that aren't MU are perennial powerhouses that have more than passing history with MU ('03 final four, coaches) is what draws the ire of this board. I bet if you had gone to Southern and Grambling St. for grad school instead, you wouldn't bring up anyone but MU...but even if you did no one would care.
Quote from: mugrad2006 on November 08, 2013, 08:55:44 AM
I live in Chicago now, but that doesn't mean I'm a Bears fan.
On top of that, the fact that the other two programs you follow that aren't MU are perennial powerhouses that have more than passing history with MU ('03 final four, coaches) is what draws the ire of this board. I bet if you had gone to Southern and Grambling St. for grad school instead, you wouldn't bring up anyone but MU...but even if you did no one would care.
Uhm, ok. I live in Los Angeles and can't stand the Lakers, Doyers, Clippers or when the Lambs or Raiders were here.
I'll cheer for the schools I am an alumnus of, fortunately all three are very good basketball schools so it makes this time of year a lot of fun.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 08, 2013, 08:09:38 AM
Probably true, that's why I just stick the universities I attended. Makes it much more manageable
So who will you cheer for when MU plays IUPUI next month?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 08, 2013, 08:58:47 AM
Uhm, ok. I live in Los Angeles and can't stand the Lakers, Doyers, Clippers or when the Lambs or Raiders were here.
I'll cheer for the schools I am an alumnus of, fortunately all three are very good basketball schools so it makes this time of year a lot of fun.
There's a special place in hell for sports bigamists.
Quote from: slingkong on November 21, 2013, 10:59:28 AM
There's a special place in hell for sports bigamists.
+10,000. Diluting one's passion by spreading it over multiple teams competing for the same goal means there was never much passion to begin with.
Quote from: slingkong on November 21, 2013, 10:59:28 AM
There's a special place in hell for sports bigamists.
Agreed--few things more obnoxious and self-indulgent in sports fandom than this.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 21, 2013, 11:21:51 AM
+10,000. Diluting one's passion by spreading it over multiple teams competing for the same goal means there was never much passion to begin with.
Honestly, if it wasn't Chicos and he wasn't so obnoxious about it, no one would care about this. Personally, I got my MBA from a different university and I follow that program to some extent. I also half-heartedly root for my wife's alma mater, particularly in football. However, I'm not attention-starved to the point that I feel the need to come onto a Marquette board and pound my chest because my other schools did well.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 21, 2013, 11:37:25 AM
Honestly, if it wasn't Chicos and he wasn't so obnoxious about it, no one would care about this. Personally, I got my MBA from a different university and I follow that program to some extent. I also half-heartedly root for my wife's alma mater, particularly in football. However, I'm not attention-starved to the point that I feel the need to come onto a Marquette board and pound my chest because my other schools did well.
Key words: "To some extent" and "half-heartedly". That's a normal way to follow your own grad school team or wife or kid's colleges. Aggressively, in your face cheering for them on your undergraduate team's board is decidedly abnormal.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 21, 2013, 11:59:53 AM
Key words: "To some extent" and "half-heartedly". That's a normal way to follow your own grad school team or wife or kid's colleges. Aggressively, in your face cheering for them on your undergraduate team's board is decidedly abnormal.
I could see cheering like crazy if the undergrad school sucked. I know a guy who went to loyola for undergrad and is here for law school and he's more than a little bit more intense cheering for MU.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 21, 2013, 12:47:00 PM
I could see cheering like crazy if the undergrad school sucked. I know a guy who went to loyola for undergrad and is here for law school and he's more than a little bit more intense cheering for MU.
Our program's descent in the late eighties coincided with UConn's rise under Calhoun, and I admit I adopted UConn as a second team. There is never a point where I would have considered rooting for UConn against Marquette, but I celebrated when the Huskies won the BET for the first time and when they won their first NCAA championship. My UConn fandom ended abruptly and immediately when we joined the Big East, as my bigamist tendencies would never survive two teams in the same conference.
Also, I was a Laker fan since I was 7 (loved Jerry West and Wilt) but just couldn't root for Kobe (I gave up when he forced Shaq out) and now I root for no specific team, but once the playoffs start I'll root for any team that plays an MU guy, and for reasons I can't explain, I will root for the more recent vintage player when there are MU alum on opposite sides, like Butler over Wade if Chicago played Miami.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 21, 2013, 11:37:25 AM
Honestly, if it wasn't Chicos and he wasn't so obnoxious about it, no one would care about this. Personally, I got my MBA from a different university and I follow that program to some extent. I also half-heartedly root for my wife's alma mater, particularly in football. However, I'm not attention-starved to the point that I feel the need to come onto a Marquette board and pound my chest because my other schools did well.
I think the underlined part is the key. I too attended a different university (Vanderbilt) for law school...but while I casually follow them (my second favorite CBB team) and they're often pretty good, I NEVER would come on a MU message board to brag about them. In fact, MU's two losses to Vandy just killed me. Doesn't sound like Chicos would have any problem watching KU pound MU into oblivion...and then come here to brag about it.
CTWarrior - despite the greivous and despicable fact that you were a Lakers fan (perhaps there was some sort of childhood trauma, since you were only seven), you have demonstrated laudatory and legitimate judgment and humanity in detesting Kobe, and changing your ways. I've got to admit, I had mixed feelings about how I'd be able to accept DJO in the hated purple and gold. Congratulations to you!
I had a different undergrad school, and another post-degree university for training but root for them minimally compared to MU (of course, they both stink at hoops).
I'm not far from UConn either and because of a professional relationship with an athlete who became a UConn (ladies) hoopster, I became a fan of their ladies'
team. Though I kind of liked Calhoun, couldn't root for the UConn men for a minute - in fact I've enjoyed our string of victories in Storrs, Hartford immensely.
I think sports bigamy is possible. I work in academia and have been a student or employee at 4 different universities now. I follow and passionately cheer for 3 of the 4 (one is a D2 school). However, I feel like there has to be a school that rises above the rest. You can't truly love equally. For most, myself included, that is our undergrad institution. But it is certainly possible that another could rise above the rest.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 21, 2013, 11:59:53 AM
Key words: "To some extent" and "half-heartedly". That's a normal way to follow your own grad school team or wife or kid's colleges. Aggressively, in your face cheering for them on your undergraduate team's board is decidedly abnormal.
Honestly, how in your face am I about KU? Very very little. How in your face was I about IU prior to someone leaving? Barely a peep.
Now, since this became an IU board half the time because of a lot of butt hurt people.....get the idea?
Not abnormal at all. I'd suggest keeping the MU board about MU and you would be amazed at how much the board remains about MU.
And all this sports bigamy talk...silly. If you went to multiple schools and were heavily engaged, why can't you cheer for multiple schools? If you have more than one child, can you only love one? Beyond ridiculous. Do I cheer for all my schools equally, hell no. MU #1 and it isn't even remotely close by any stretch. Not by any.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 21, 2013, 01:58:23 PM
I think the underlined part is the key. I too attended a different university (Vanderbilt) for law school...but while I casually follow them (my second favorite CBB team) and they're often pretty good, I NEVER would come on a MU message board to brag about them. In fact, MU's two losses to Vandy just killed me. Doesn't sound like Chicos would have any problem watching KU pound MU into oblivion...and then come here to brag about it.
You haven't been following or paying attention very long.
Favorite teams
1) MU
1a MU
1b MU
1c MU
DISTANT 2nd IU. Distant 3rd KU
Do I ever want to see MU lose, to anyone? No.
How many posts did I have about IU prior to March 30, 2008? 20 maybe? Then this board became IU all the time. Cause and effect. People are surprised at my responses, maybe they should look at the mirror and see the cause of it.
Quote from: slingkong on November 21, 2013, 10:59:28 AM
There's a special place in hell for sports bigamists.
-1. I could not disagree more.
I root for all of my alma maters during the CBB season, but it's MU first and foremost should they ever meet up in the tourney.
Do you root for other Big East teams in the OOC? In the tourney? If they win, it helps Marquette. And the help is not trivial (e.g., RPI, tourney credits, league prestige).
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2013, 07:58:11 AM
How many posts did I have about IU prior to March 30, 2008? 20 maybe? Then this board became IU all the time. Cause and effect. People are surprised at my responses, maybe they should look at the mirror and see the cause of it.
When someone takes a mild swipe at TC or IU, you know that you can just let it go, right? Just something to consider.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2013, 07:55:28 AM
And all this sports bigamy talk...silly. If you went to multiple schools and were heavily engaged, why can't you cheer for multiple schools? If you have more than one child, can you only love one? Beyond ridiculous. Do I cheer for all my schools equally, hell no. MU #1 and it isn't even remotely close by any stretch. Not by any.
Wow. What an interesting analogy. If your children = your former schools it must really suck to be the kids you named Indiana and Kansas.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 22, 2013, 09:07:13 AM
Wow. What an interesting analogy. If your children = your former schools it must really suck to be the kids you named Indiana and Kansas.
Hilarious!
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 22, 2013, 08:28:03 AM
When someone takes a mild swipe at TC or IU, you know that you can just let it go, right? Just something to consider.
Yup
When someone takes a mild swipe at BW or MU, you know you can just let it go, right? Just something to consider.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 22, 2013, 09:07:13 AM
Wow. What an interesting analogy. If your children = your former schools it must really suck to be the kids you named Indiana and Kansas.
For some people here, it seems that you can only put 100% of your love or focus on one team. I don't agree. Then again, some people here can't walk and chew gum it would seem.
I see no problem cheering for multiple schools one attended. I also see no problem in putting most of your heart in your main school, as I do, but still actively hoping they all do well. It seems to me the ones that have the most to grind against this are those only went to one school which I find rather funny. Those comments remind of those that feel they need to give parenting advice but they don't have kids themselves.
At any rate, be a fan as you see it and I'll be a fan as I see it. Go Warriors. God bless my two kids, Indiana and Kansas.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2013, 09:21:57 AM
Yup
When someone takes a mild swipe at BW or MU, you know you can just let it go, right? Just something to consider.
Well, it's a Marquette board, so duh. Is there anyone on the Kansas board constantly defends Roy Williams and takes swipes at Bill Self? If so, I'm sure the board is pretty tough on him. What would you expect?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2013, 09:21:57 AM
Yup
When someone takes a mild swipe at BW or MU, you know you can just let it go, right? Just something to consider.
I let it go all the time. That's why you don't see thread after thread after thread turned into me playing the victim against the Scoop world.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2013, 09:28:46 AM
For some people here, it seems that you can only put 100% of your love or focus on one team. I don't agree. Then again, some people here can't walk and chew gum it would seem.
I see no problem cheering for multiple schools one attended. I also see no problem in putting most of your heart in your main school, as I do, but still actively hoping they all do well. It seems to me the ones that have the most to grind against this are those only went to one school which I find rather funny. Those comments remind of those that feel they need to give parenting advice but they don't have kids themselves.
At any rate, be a fan as you see it and I'll be a fan as I see it. Go Warriors. God bless my two kids, Indiana and Kansas.
So you stand by your analogy?
Chicos' favorite child:
1) Chicos Jr.
1a Chicos Jr.
1b Chicos Jr.
1c Chicos Jr.
DISTANT 2nd Chicos III. Distant 3rd Chicos IV.
Interesting.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 22, 2013, 09:35:49 AM
Well, it's a Marquette board, so duh. Is there anyone on the Kansas board constantly defends Roy Williams and takes swipes at Bill Self? If so, I'm sure the board is pretty tough on him. What would you expect?
I could have sworn it was 70% MU board, 30% IU \ Tom Crean is the devil board. I thought I read it in the bylaws.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2013, 11:06:19 AM
I could have sworn it was 70% MU board, 30% IU \ Tom Crean is the devil board. I thought I read it in the bylaws.
Lately it seems more like 36% MU, 34% anti-MU, and 30% IU/TC=devil.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2013, 07:58:11 AM
You haven't been following or paying attention very long.
Favorite teams
1) MU
1a MU
1b MU
1c MU
DISTANT 2nd IU. Distant 3rd KU
Do I ever want to see MU lose, to anyone? No.
How many posts did I have about IU prior to March 30, 2008? 20 maybe? Then this board became IU all the time. Cause and effect. People are surprised at my responses, maybe they should look at the mirror and see the cause of it.
Someone posted a link above that said good things about both MU and KU...and your ONLY response was the KU chant. If MU is first and KU third, wouldn't your comment have started with something nice about the Buzz/MU predictions, and then had the KU chant as the afterthought?
See. I have been paying attention.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2013, 11:06:19 AM
I could have sworn it was 70% MU board, 30% IU \ Tom Crean is the devil board. I thought I read it in the bylaws.
You aggressively defend the guy who a) coaches at Indiana, b) used to coach MU and c) is despised by many here for a myriad of reasons. You passive aggressively rip Buzz, a guy whom this board almost universally considers a much better coach and person than the guy you defend.
Given what a douche TC was and the manner in which he left, it's normal for Marquette fans to detest him and root against him. Given what a great representative of and coach for Marquette Buzz has been, it's normal for MU fans to resent the snide remarks you make about him. We get that you don't like normal, but you get what you ask (beg) for.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 22, 2013, 11:11:34 AM
Lately it seems more like 36% MU, 34% anti-MU, and 30% IU/TC=devil.
+1
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 22, 2013, 08:28:03 AM
When someone takes a mild swipe at TC or IU, you know that you can just let it go, right? Just something to consider.
We could also let the TC hatred go....
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 22, 2013, 06:18:35 PM
We could also let the TC hatred go....
?? Color me shocked TAMU...I never pictured you as a Crean-lover
2062 days since he left
178,156,800 seconds
2,969,280 minutes
49,488 hours
2062 days
294 weeks (rounded down)
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 21, 2013, 11:21:51 AM
+10,000. Diluting one's passion by spreading it over multiple teams competing for the same goal means there was never much passion to begin with.
Marquette Basketball
Michigan Football
Baltimore Orioles
Quote from: keefe on November 22, 2013, 08:36:09 PM
Marquette Basketball
Michigan Football
Baltimore Orioles
You clearly don't have much passion if you are diluting it and spreading it over multiple teams. It has to be 100% all the time on MU
Crean sucks
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2013, 08:40:23 PM
You clearly don't have much passion if you are diluting it and spreading it over multiple teams. It has to be 100% all the time on MU
You clearly can't read. As I said, the dilution comes from spreading passion over multiple teams seeking the same goal. Last I looked Marquette basketball isn't competing with Michigan football or the Baltimore Orioles baseball club in division 1 college basketball.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 22, 2013, 08:56:59 PM
Crean sucks
he's also a prick...we shall not forget about that.
anyone catch the end of the IU loss to UCONN where TC was yelling down at Kevin Ollie...think he wanted a tech on Ollie for being out of the coaches box or something typically odd when he throws his harbaugh like temper-tantrums after a loss. that said, TC is good for college basketball, i personally love to watch him underachieve with top-notch talent.
Quote from: ElDonBDon on November 22, 2013, 07:58:51 PM
?? Color me shocked TAMU...I never pictured you as a Crean-lover
A desire to move on after 6 years makes a guy a Crean-lover?
I don't think anyone (including CBB, especially CBB) is vouching for TC's character. He was a douche, he left in a bad fashion, but he's gone. You don't have to like him to want to let the past be the past.
Quote from: avid1010 on November 23, 2013, 09:32:44 AM
he's also a prick...we shall not forget about that.
anyone catch the end of the IU loss to UCONN where TC was yelling down at Kevin Ollie...think he wanted a tech on Ollie for being out of the coaches box or something typically odd when he throws his harbaugh like temper-tantrums after a loss. that said, TC is good for college basketball, i personally love to watch him underachieve with top-notch talent.
It was a nice, early season college basketball game with actual energy....good stuff...7 lead changes in the last 4 minutes. Fun to watch
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 23, 2013, 09:46:35 AM
A desire to move on after 6 years makes a guy a Crean-lover?
I don't think anyone (including CBB, especially CBB) is vouching for TC's character. He was a douche, he left in a bad fashion, but he's gone. You don't have to like him to want to let the past be the past.
Sorry, I should have used teal.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 23, 2013, 08:27:24 AM
You clearly can't read. As I said, the dilution comes from spreading passion over multiple teams seeking the same goal. Last I looked Marquette basketball isn't competing with Michigan football or the Baltimore Orioles baseball club in division 1 college basketball.
Read it just fine....I just feel if Keefe is going to be able to give ALL his passion to MU he can't cheer for Michigan football at the same time, since they overlap. The cosmic goodness coming from his fandom will not be able to be heard properly by the MU basketball Gods. It's best he just focuses completely on one team only, trying to get that goal. You know, because in the grand scheme of things that's what it is all about, the focus.
Quote from: ElDonBDon on November 23, 2013, 11:12:35 AM
Sorry, I should have used teal.
Hehe...my bad. The whole thing has taken on such a life of its own on this site, hard to know who's serious about all the TC stuff ;D
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 22, 2013, 11:11:34 AM
Lately it seems more like 36% MU, 34% anti-MU, and 30% IU/TC=devil.
C'mon, brew. Being concerned about Marquette's start to and/or prospects for this season is not the same as being anti-Marquette.
And I'm not talkin' about the lunatic fringe that wants Buzz to bench everybody or get fired if he doesn't.