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Title: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: Zombie45 on October 22, 2013, 03:14:07 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/photo/2013/1021/grant_g_Gardner_Davante_640.jpg&w=640&h=360

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east

2013-14 NCAA Basketball Preview: The Big East
Why a walk-on may end up winning the Naismith this season
By Mark Titus on October 22, 2013

Leads in with a huge section about Marquette not getting the respect we deserve
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: Skatastrophy on October 22, 2013, 03:34:10 PM
In case people miss it:

(http://i.imgur.com/HvxDHvI.png) (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east)
Title: Ox and the boys on the front of Grantland
Post by: mu03eng on October 22, 2013, 04:00:01 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east)

Love the photo  ;D
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 22, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
Loved everything about that article
Title: Re: Ox and the boys on the front of Grantland
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 22, 2013, 04:22:51 PM
Nvm, mods fixed it
Title: Re: Ox and the boys on the front of Grantland
Post by: keefe on October 22, 2013, 04:25:19 PM
The author, Mark Titus, had one of the more clever College Basketball Blogs, Club Trillion (a reference to his spot on the bench as an Ohio State walk-on.) My estimation of him rose considerably today:

My reason for bringing this up is to mention that Buzz Williams is turning Marquette into a consistent winner, and he's doing it rather quietly. As someone who never passes up an opportunity to crap on Tom Crean, it should be noted that Crean's best Big East record was 11-7, which is a mark that Williams has eclipsed in three of his five seasons.


http://clubtrillion.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Ox and the boys on the front of Grantland
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 22, 2013, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: keefe on October 22, 2013, 04:25:19 PM
As someone who never passes up an opportunity to crap on Tom Crean, it should be noted that Crean's best Big East record was 11-7, which is a mark that Williams has eclipsed in three of his five seasons.

Onions!
Title: Re: Ox and the boys on the front of Grantland
Post by: ceh on October 22, 2013, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: keefe on October 22, 2013, 04:25:19 PM
The author, Mark Titus, had one of the more clever College Basketball Blogs, Club Trillion (a reference to his spot on the bench as an Ohio State walk-on.) My estimation of him rose considerably today:

My reason for bringing this up is to mention that Buzz Williams is turning Marquette into a consistent winner, and he's doing it rather quietly. As someone who never passes up an opportunity to crap on Tom Crean, it should be noted that Crean's best Big East record was 11-7, which is a mark that Williams has eclipsed in three of his five seasons.


http://clubtrillion.blogspot.com/

His footnote is priceless...

1. "With Crean's first mention of the season, it seems like a good time to say that I spent all offseason deleting from the Internet every instance of me claiming Crean was a good hire for Indiana in 2008. If we could just pretend that I've always been anti-Crean (and if you could point out any of my pro-Crean comments that haven't been deleted), that'd be great. Thanks."
Title: Re: Ox and the boys on the front of Grantland
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on October 22, 2013, 05:52:18 PM
His choice of analogy leaves a bit to be desired:

"The point is this: Think of the new Big East as a reboot of a show like, say, Whose Line Is It Anyway? Sure, the U.S. run with Drew Carey peeing his pants every five minutes was better than the current show, but that doesn't mean the reboot isn't worth watching."
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on October 22, 2013, 05:58:28 PM
Don't school employees get a break on tuition for their offspring?
Title: Re: Ox and the boys on the front of Grantland
Post by: wadesworld on October 22, 2013, 06:00:34 PM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on October 22, 2013, 05:52:18 PM
His choice of analogy leaves a bit to be desired:

"The point is this: Think of the new Big East as a reboot of a show like, say, Whose Line Is It Anyway? Sure, the U.S. run with Drew Carey peeing his pants every five minutes was better than the current show, but that doesn't mean the reboot isn't worth watching."

I think it's exactly what everyone is saying about the new Big East.  Do you really believe that it's going to be as good as the Big East we were in since leaving CUSA?  Pretty easy to see there is a drop off.  But it's still a strong conference that is worth watching.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: jesmu84 on October 22, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
If you ask me, and I know you aren't, but the first three paragraphs about Marquette perfectly portray why I believe some mu fans feel we are slighted or overlooked compared to others at our level in college bball.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: CAGASS24 on October 22, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
Pretty good, save for the cadougan was our second best player last year.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 22, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
Especially liked the part 'bout takin' opportunities "to crap on Crean."
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: The Lens on October 22, 2013, 07:44:51 PM
I found Titus to be the best CBB read online last season.  He is refreshingly and brutally honest.  Seems very agenda free unlike a Bilas, Gottlieb type etc who may share an agent with a coach or do on air favors for extra access etc.  He's just an ex player commenting without much regard for the repercussions.      
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: tower912 on October 22, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 22, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
Especially liked the part 'bout takin' opportunities "to crap on Crean."

I'm sure he is prepared for 15k posts defending the coach. 
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: real chili 83 on October 22, 2013, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 22, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
I'm sure he is prepared for 15k posts defending the coach. 

Well said.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 22, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 22, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
Especially liked the part 'bout takin' opportunities "to crap on Crean."
Why do I suspect Crean would be into a face cake or two?
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 22, 2013, 10:04:17 PM
I enjoy Titus stuff.

He is exactly right that no one remembers the Elite 8 nationally as I said a few months ago here.  Final Four or better for the avg Joe, just the way it is.

I remember last year when he said IU had very little depth and a certain few people here making it out like IU had 20 NBA players. 

"At the start of the season, Indiana was billed as one of the deepest teams in the country, but there was actually a huge drop-off in talent between the Hoosiers' starters and their second-string players." - Mark Titus
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: Jay Bee on October 22, 2013, 10:55:49 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 22, 2013, 10:04:17 PM
I remember last year when he said IU had very little depth and a certain few people here making it out like IU had 20 NBA players. 

I don't remember that.

I do remember you saying that Indiana had "zero depth". I then pointed to Will Sheehey as reason why that claim was ridiculous.

Big Ten coaches would later vote Sheehey as the conference's Sixth Man of the Year.

(I'd go on further to say more could have been done with Hollowell, Creek, Abell and Perea -- of course Perea's season was set off course because he and PETER JURKIN were suspended for nearly a third of the team's regular season games after receiving improper benefits from I4 booster(s); Creek has had horrible luck with injuries, Abell was excellent off the bench - I think he avg'd 12+ mpg and posted a ORtg of > 115 if IIRC... and time will prove how good Hollowell is.)

Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: keefe on October 23, 2013, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 22, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
Why do I suspect Crean would be into a face cake or two?

I'm thinkin' Tanned Tommy likes his corn fed...
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: keefe on October 23, 2013, 12:52:13 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 22, 2013, 10:55:49 PM

Big Ten coaches would later vote Sheehey as the conference's Sixth Man of the Year.

Sheehey also received an Oscar for Best Dramatic Performance in a Supporting Role:


An art form demonstrated masterfully by Will Sheehey against Minnesota this past season. Who can forget CTC instructing his charges to "watch for the elbows" during the time out immediately before Sheehey's award winning performance? Sir Lawrence Olivier must have been proud.

Coach Tom Crean - Professor of Dramatics.



Professor Crean instructing players on how to "take an elbow" with full effect

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsWZ5JLHPruOsljIcQzJRqkjrc08WAVNK1y9R4qChQqpM7PsYP)



Sheehey goes down after receiving a crushing blow to the jaw!


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQoDIwfcMtw16etgnUEtiZP_r28pXzrLLHGtw0bqnWmTyOjV8Lcsw)


Sheehey crawls on the floor like a dog while writhing in intense agony! Is there not a God in Heaven??


(http://www.yardbarker.com/media/b/3/b38456c33277ef4bc5939b501a440b461ca35001/medium/ind.jpg)


Moments later, Sheehey is fully recovered from his Hollin's horrific assault. Sheehey's resilience and resolve in overcoming excruciating pain is a tribute to his mental toughness and physical conditioning. Only a warrior could absorb such pain and continue on. Coach Tom Crean accepts only the hardest steel and hones it to a razor's edge through proven hyperbaric technology.

(http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/gallery/iu-vs-ohio-state-mens-basketball-photo-gallery/iu_bb_osu0441.jpg)


Hollins is incredulous. The degree of punishment he inflicted on Sheehey would have destroyed a lesser man. Clearly, Will Sheehey is made of sterner stuff, most likely due to the intensive karate and jiu jitsu training he received from Coach Tom Crean.


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHgk32AplZ5hJ_hfVbxLqgrLkOxvCy2jSGBpSqdz2mBHr8KsIi)

Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: tower912 on October 23, 2013, 06:23:46 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 22, 2013, 10:04:17 PM
I enjoy Titus stuff.

He is exactly right that no one remembers the Elite 8 nationally as I said a few months ago here.  Final Four or better for the avg Joe, just the way it is.

I remember last year when he said IU had very little depth and a certain few people here making it out like IU had 20 NBA players. 

"At the start of the season, Indiana was billed as one of the deepest teams in the country, but there was actually a huge drop-off in talent between the Hoosiers' starters and their second-string players." - Mark Titus
Do you agree with his assessment or not?    Because if you do, you are saying that a coach in his 5th year at a top tier school either can't recruit depth or can't develop talent.     If you don't agree, then you are saying that IU underperformed it's talent. 
Title: Re: Ox and the boys on the front of Grantland
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on October 23, 2013, 07:45:08 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 22, 2013, 06:00:34 PM
I think it's exactly what everyone is saying about the new Big East.  Do you really believe that it's going to be as good as the Big East we were in since leaving CUSA?  Pretty easy to see there is a drop off.  But it's still a strong conference that is worth watching.

I had no idea there was a new version of "Whose Line is it Anyway?"
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: MerrittsMustache on October 23, 2013, 07:49:21 AM
Titus is the perfect writer for Grantland. He's clever and has solid insights but is not nearly as clever or insightful as he thinks he is.

Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: LAMUfan on October 23, 2013, 07:56:23 AM
Any specific reason he hates Crean?  I mean, I could guess...
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 23, 2013, 08:20:44 AM
No, he's just a guy with average intelligence who can spot a self-servicing, two-faced, self-promoting, egotistical, phony maniac when he sees one.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: Brewtown Andy on October 23, 2013, 08:30:54 AM
Quote from: LAMUfan on October 23, 2013, 07:56:23 AM
Any specific reason he hates Crean?  I mean, I could guess...

I think he turned on Crean due to that "worst NCAA tournament performance by a team with two top four picks in the NBA Draft that immediately followed it" thing.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: The Lens on October 23, 2013, 08:34:18 AM
Quote from: LAMUfan on October 23, 2013, 07:56:23 AM
Any specific reason he hates Crean?  I mean, I could guess...

Though he played at tOSU, he's from Indiana and was a Hoosier fan growing up.  I get the sense he feels like IU has hit its ceiling with TC.  To be fair he also hates Frank Haith.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 23, 2013, 09:22:50 AM
Quote from: LAMUfan on October 23, 2013, 07:56:23 AM
Any specific reason he hates Crean?  I mean, I could guess...

4ever's right, you don't have to be a genius to detest Crean or love Buzz. A normal intellect and a shred of objectivity will get you there.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: LAMUfan on October 23, 2013, 11:49:04 AM
Kinda what I figured, was hopping he watched crean get drunk and pick up a 14 year old or something
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: NersEllenson on October 23, 2013, 12:28:54 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 23, 2013, 06:23:46 AM
Do you agree with his assessment or not?    Because if you do, you are saying that a coach in his 5th year at a top tier school either can't recruit depth or can't develop talent.     If you don't agree, then you are saying that IU underperformed it's talent. 

Pretty sure this won't get a reply.  You hit the nail on the head Tower.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: warriorchick on October 23, 2013, 12:54:00 PM
Oh, Come on, fellas.

For once, an article gets published that finally "gets" Marquette Basketball, and you guys had to turn it into a Crean fight.
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: melissasmooth on October 23, 2013, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on October 23, 2013, 12:54:00 PM
Oh, Come on, fellas.

For once, an article gets published that finally "gets" Marquette Basketball, and you guys had to turn it into a Crean fight.

almost every thread
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: teamdee on October 23, 2013, 02:03:01 PM
holdat
Title: Re: MU Featured on Grantland Homepage
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 23, 2013, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 22, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
I'm sure he is prepared for 15k posts defending the coach. 

Hummm....I wonder where that 15k figure comes from?
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