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Title: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: GGGG on October 21, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
#mubb's Duane Wilson (@SwaggyDu1) to miss start of 2013-14 with stress fracture in left leg.

Blah....
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on October 21, 2013, 04:04:16 PM
Looks like Ox will be backin' up at the point
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Aughnanure on October 21, 2013, 04:04:47 PM
We were due for an injury, not the worst one to have.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: GGGG on October 21, 2013, 04:06:09 PM
On Facebook they say he will be out "multiple weeks." 
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Archies Bat on October 21, 2013, 04:06:51 PM
Good thing we are loaded with Switchables.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on October 21, 2013, 04:08:49 PM
Anyone tweet a picture of the cast/walking boot yet?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: chapman on October 21, 2013, 04:12:56 PM
When Wes had it, people said it was better that it happened then than later in his career.  He didn't miss a game after that.  So, better now than later in his career.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: mr.MUskie on October 21, 2013, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Archies Bat on October 21, 2013, 04:06:51 PM
Good thing we are loaded with Switchables.


I'm sure we have a warehouse full of walking boots.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: nyg on October 21, 2013, 04:26:16 PM
Get him healthy before Ohio State game. 
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 21, 2013, 04:27:14 PM
Well its a good thing Dawson looked a lot better then I thought he would.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: GGGG on October 21, 2013, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: esard2011 on October 21, 2013, 04:27:14 PM
Well its a good thing Dawson looked a lot better then I thought he would.


He will undoubtedly get his chance...but I do think that Mayo will also see time there.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Badgerhater on October 21, 2013, 04:33:13 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on October 21, 2013, 04:18:32 PM

I'm sure we have a warehouse full of walking boots.

All MU players are measured for one once they sign their Letter of Intent.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 21, 2013, 04:39:26 PM
Got the scorecenter update and went straight here, haha.

Tough break for the kid. Hopefully he will get to play before the start of conference play.

I agree with Sultan. Provided he is playing well, I think Mayo gets time at the point when De Wilson is on the bench. JJJ ends up with most of the minutes at the 2.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: tower912 on October 21, 2013, 04:39:52 PM
Shite.    Mr. Dawson, this is opportunity knocking.    Are you available?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: thehammock on October 21, 2013, 04:44:27 PM
He posted a pic of himself on crutches a few days back. Said he had a syress fracture in his hip.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Pakuni on October 21, 2013, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 21, 2013, 04:06:09 PM
On Facebook they say he will be out "multiple weeks." 

So, two?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 21, 2013, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on October 21, 2013, 04:44:55 PM
So, two?

two or more than two

(http://i40.tinypic.com/6ftbuf.png)
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Jay Bee on October 21, 2013, 05:09:37 PM
We Are Marquette.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on October 21, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
The Sports ReKap  @SaidOnTheReKap 

Duane Wilson says he will probably be out 8-12 weeks with a stress fracture in his left leg #mubb

Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Markusquette on October 21, 2013, 05:18:39 PM
Well that sucks.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: NersEllenson on October 21, 2013, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on October 21, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
The Sports ReKap  @SaidOnTheReKap 

Duane Wilson says he will probably be out 8-12 weeks with a stress fracture in his left leg #mubb



Wow..if really 8-12 weeks, almost begin to wonder if they might consider a redshirt?  From what I've read...as talented as Duane is...he still had a ways to go to be Big East ready...if he's not ready to go till Mid January..does he or MU want to burn a year?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 21, 2013, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: Ners on October 21, 2013, 05:21:47 PM
Wow..if really 8-12 weeks, almost begin to wonder if they might consider a redshirt?  From what I've read...as talented as Duane is...he still had a ways to go to be Big East ready...if he's not ready to go till Mid January..does he or MU want to burn a year?

Cadougan anyone? Down to 11 guys again!
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Japabound on October 21, 2013, 05:38:52 PM
Well this stinks. Every time a freshman is out any significant time to start the season they end up only contributing marginally due to being out of game shape and out of sync with the rest of the team. At least that's how it seems from recent players such as Hayward, Cadougan, Mayo (soph). 8-12 weeks makes me think he will definitely not be a major contributor this year.  I of course hope I'm completely wrong.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: mr.MUskie on October 21, 2013, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: Japabound on October 21, 2013, 05:38:52 PM
Well this stinks. Every time a freshman is out any significant time to start the season they end up only contributing marginally due to being out of game shape and out of sync with the rest of the team. At least that's how it seems from recent players such as Hayward, Cadougan, Mayo (soph). 8-12 weeks makes me think he will definitely not be a major contributor this year.  I of course hope I'm completely wrong.


Yep, after being off that long the player isn't ready, and the team is used to playing without him.  Especially true for a freshman.  Red shirt.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on October 21, 2013, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: Ners on October 21, 2013, 05:21:47 PM
Wow..if really 8-12 weeks, almost begin to wonder if they might consider a redshirt?  From what I've read...as talented as Duane is...he still had a ways to go to be Big East ready...if he's not ready to go till Mid January..does he or MU want to burn a year?
this.... especially with our depth at guard this year
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 21, 2013, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on October 21, 2013, 04:18:32 PM

I'm sure we have a warehouse full of walking boots.

Every player gets one at the start of practice along with a jock strap.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 21, 2013, 05:47:18 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 21, 2013, 05:09:37 PM
We Are Marquette.

Over and over again, apparently.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on October 21, 2013, 05:58:33 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 21, 2013, 05:45:55 PM
Every player gets one at the start of practice along with a jock strap.
we supply jockstraps?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 21, 2013, 06:03:03 PM
Thought somethin' was up when Derrick was anointed the startin' point.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Slim on October 21, 2013, 06:52:13 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 21, 2013, 06:03:03 PM
Thought somethin' was up when Derrick was anointed the startin' point.
And DuWil missed all of his dunks at Madness!
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Golden Avalanche on October 21, 2013, 07:17:10 PM
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on October 21, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
The Sports ReKap  @SaidOnTheReKap 

Duane Wilson says he will probably be out 8-12 weeks with a stress fracture in his left leg #mubb

unnatural carnal knowledge. If remotely near the actual time frame, this hurts. If not near the actual time frame, this hurts.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 21, 2013, 07:20:00 PM
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on October 21, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
The Sports ReKap  @SaidOnTheReKap 

Duane Wilson says he will probably be out 8-12 weeks with a stress fracture in his left leg #mubb



Wow. 8-12. That's way more than 2.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: GGGG on October 21, 2013, 07:23:36 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 21, 2013, 07:20:00 PM
Wow. 8-12. That's way more than 2.

WHOA!!!  LENNY"S GOT A BIG BRAIN!!!
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on October 21, 2013, 07:27:23 PM
Apparently we none of us on this board did a good job of scouting out at the Jimmy Johns this past week.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 21, 2013, 08:10:24 PM
Red shirt!
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: mileskishnish72 on October 21, 2013, 09:09:15 PM
I've seen "leg" - not so bad.

I've seen "hip" - could be a big problemo.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: MU82 on October 21, 2013, 09:38:40 PM
Darn it. Very, very selfishly, I was really looking forward to seeing this kid play. The idea of a guy who hit 55% of his H.S. 3s and also had some PG ability was really exciting.

And still will be whenever he gets healthy.

Best wishes to the young man.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: wadesworld on October 21, 2013, 09:50:09 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 21, 2013, 08:10:24 PM
Red shirt!

Why would he do that?  Worst case scenario he is back by mid January.  That is still very, very early in the conference schedule and gives him a month and a half to get into shape before March Madness.  Not to mention that if he's looking to play professional basketball there are not many 5th year seniors who are getting drafted, let alone 4th year seniors.  I doubt he'll want to be in school for 5 years, so why sit out when he's healthy?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: bilsu on October 21, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 21, 2013, 09:50:09 PM
Why would he do that?  Worst case scenario he is back by mid January.  That is still very, very early in the conference schedule and gives him a month and a half to get into shape before March Madness.  Not to mention that if he's looking to play professional basketball there are not many 5th year seniors who are getting drafted, let alone 4th year seniors.  I doubt he'll want to be in school for 5 years, so why sit out when he's healthy?
It is better to be completely healed than to risk reinjury. No reason to play, if you are not going to help the team. With the time lost he will be at the best the number 3 point guard on the team.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Coleman on October 21, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
Quote from: sixstrings03 on October 21, 2013, 05:58:33 PM
we supply jockstraps?

Dwyane Wade wears his Indiana jockstrap for every Heat game
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on October 21, 2013, 11:01:58 PM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on October 21, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
Dwyane Wade wears his Indiana jockstrap for every Heat game
I must be confused. I thought it was the other way around... that TC swiped Dwyane's after Heat games
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 21, 2013, 11:31:35 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on October 21, 2013, 09:50:09 PM
Why would he do that?  Worst case scenario he is back by mid January.  That is still very, very early in the conference schedule and gives him a month and a half to get into shape before March Madness.  Not to mention that if he's looking to play professional basketball there are not many 5th year seniors who are getting drafted, let alone 4th year seniors.  I doubt he'll want to be in school for 5 years, so why sit out when he's healthy?

Junior Cadougan was back by February if I remember correctly. We decided to play him. Despite being our top recruit that year, he averaged 3 minutes a game and added nothing to the stat sheet. Now, instead of him starting this season when PG is our biggest question mark, he is off playing pro ball in Georgia I think. Imagine how good this team would be if Junior was at the helm instead of D Wil.

However, if he comes back before conference play, then I say give him a chance. But only if he is truly healed.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on October 22, 2013, 04:39:27 AM
Like I told you before when we were going over the starting lineups....

start Todd Mayo.

(http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/common/medialib/306/724877.jpg)

It's done. That simple.

Get well Duane, we will need you.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 22, 2013, 05:21:25 AM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 22, 2013, 04:39:27 AM
Like I told you before when we were going over the starting lineups....

start Todd Mayo.

(http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/common/medialib/306/724877.jpg)

It's done. That simple.

Get well Duane, we will need you.

I hope I see Todd smile like OX this year.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 22, 2013, 06:34:55 AM
Quote from: sixstrings03 on October 21, 2013, 11:01:58 PM
I must be confused. I thought it was the other way around... that TC swiped Dwyane's after Heat games


Your assumin' Crean has balls.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: NavinRJohnson on October 22, 2013, 07:55:23 AM
Quote from: bilsu on October 21, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
It is better to be completely healed than to risk reinjury. No reason to play, if you are not going to help the team. With the time lost he will be at the best the number 3 point guard on the team.

Of course he has to be physically healed and ready to play, but assuming he is, with half the season left...who says he has to play PG? If he can play and hit 40% of his 3's, that's a pretty valuable addition for the last half of the season. Beyond that, these guys want to play, not redshirt. They do deserve a say in the matter.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: bilsu on October 22, 2013, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on October 22, 2013, 07:55:23 AM
Of course he has to be physically healed and ready to play, but assuming he is, with half the season left...who says he has to play PG? If he can play and hit 40% of his 3's, that's a pretty valuable addition for the last half of the season. Beyond that, these guys want to play, not redshirt. They do deserve a say in the matter.
Realistically, he is a four/five year player. Assuming he is good enough to go after his junior year, redshirting him will not hurt him. The question is does he really help this year and how that compares to a potential 5th year?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: MerrittsMustache on October 22, 2013, 08:40:51 AM
Quote from: sixstrings03 on October 21, 2013, 11:01:58 PM
I must be confused. I thought it was the other way around... that TC swiped Dwyane's after Heat games

TC still has Wade's jock parked in his garage after he rode it all the way to Bloomington.

Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: NavinRJohnson on October 22, 2013, 08:44:56 AM
Quote from: bilsu on October 22, 2013, 08:35:22 AM
Realistically, he is a four/five year player. Assuming he is good enough to go after his junior year, redshirting him will not hurt him. The question is does he really help this year and how that compares to a potential 5th year?

No, the question is, does he want to play half the year, and how that compares to being at Marquette a potential 5th year. The health of the program 4 years from now should have absolutely no bearing on his decision.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: NersEllenson on October 22, 2013, 08:51:08 AM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on October 22, 2013, 07:55:23 AM
Of course he has to be physically healed and ready to play, but assuming he is, with half the season left...who says he has to play PG? If he can play and hit 40% of his 3's, that's a pretty valuable addition for the last half of the season. Beyond that, these guys want to play, not redshirt. They do deserve a say in the matter.

Completely agree that at the end of the day it is/should be the kid and his family's decision - was just pointing out that it could be a largely wasted year of eligibility if it goes into mid January before he is ready for on court action/playing time.  If Duane is good enough to go pro after being at MU 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 years...he'll go pro when it makes the most sense - might be nice to have a 5th year to work with if he's only marginally pleased with his draft prospects after say Year 4.

Obviously want the best for Duane. 
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Aughnanure on October 22, 2013, 09:08:30 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 21, 2013, 11:31:35 PM
Junior Cadougan was back by February if I remember correctly. We decided to play him. Despite being our top recruit that year, he averaged 3 minutes a game and added nothing to the stat sheet. Now, instead of him starting this season when PG is our biggest question mark, he is off playing pro ball in Georgia I think. Imagine how good this team would be if Junior was at the helm instead of D Wil.

However, if he comes back before conference play, then I say give him a chance. But only if he is truly healed.

This. Bringing Junior back that year was pointless. Not saying it will be for Duane, but a 3-month hip injury right before the season starts does not sound promising.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: MerrittsMustache on October 22, 2013, 09:16:18 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 21, 2013, 11:31:35 PM
Junior Cadougan was back by February if I remember correctly. We decided to play him. Despite being our top recruit that year, he averaged 3 minutes a game and added nothing to the stat sheet. Now, instead of him starting this season when PG is our biggest question mark, he is off playing pro ball in Georgia I think. Imagine how good this team would be if Junior was at the helm instead of D Wil.

However, if he comes back before conference play, then I say give him a chance. But only if he is truly healed.

From what I understand, Junior didn't want to redshirt and didn't want to be in school a fifth year.

Besides, if he had taken a redshirt year and was the starting PG this season, there's the possibility that Duane would not have come to Marquette knowing that there were going to be limited minutes at the point for his first season.

Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Aughnanure on October 22, 2013, 09:16:45 AM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on October 21, 2013, 09:09:15 PM
I've seen "leg" - not so bad.

I've seen "hip" - could be a big problemo.

If it's hip, I question bringing him back at all. That would be January 14, if it is 12 weeks. Multiple Big East games already played. That's a tough learning curve. He won't have any bad teams to work out kinks or get used to the pace.

It'll be a good time for Todd Smith to work on his upper body strength though.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: WarriorFan on October 22, 2013, 09:43:41 AM
Imagine the pressure on the kid.  He wants to perform, he wants to please Buzz and the fans and his family and his team... not an easy decision to redshirt.
But if it's really 12 weeks, absolutely the right one.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: MUBurrow on October 22, 2013, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 21, 2013, 11:31:35 PM
Imagine how good this team would be if Junior was at the helm instead of D Wil.


While the depth would be nice, not sure swapping D Wil for Junior really moves the meter much at all.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: GGGG on October 22, 2013, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: jtbh6b1 on October 22, 2013, 09:43:41 AM
But if it's really 12 weeks, absolutely the right one.


I just don't agree with that.  I think if a player is healthy, wants to play, and Buzz thinks there is value in having him play, then he should play.  I don't think in this day and age, that you trade in a half-season of contribution now for a full season of contribution four years from now.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: brewcity77 on October 22, 2013, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 22, 2013, 09:16:18 AMFrom what I understand, Junior didn't want to redshirt and didn't want to be in school a fifth year.

Besides, if he had taken a redshirt year and was the starting PG this season, there's the possibility that Duane would not have come to Marquette knowing that there were going to be limited minutes at the point for his first season.

As I recall, we also had major depth issues that year, only really going 7 deep. DJO and Buycks often had to play big because we only had 3 frontcourt players (Hayward, Butler, and Fulce) while Acker and Cooby barely got to rest (both averaged over 29 mpg). I think the hope was that Junior could take some of the load off those guys and as a 6'1" guard lessen the damage when DJO and Buycks were slotting in as 3/4 type players. Of course, Junior proved mostly ineffectual and it didn't work, but when your bench only goes 2 deep (thanks to Maymon's departure) I get why the staff was also okay with playing him.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Eldon on October 22, 2013, 11:45:03 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 22, 2013, 10:00:20 AM

I just don't agree with that.  I think if a player is healthy, wants to play, and Buzz thinks there is value in having him play, then he should play.  I don't think in this day and age, that you trade in a half-season of contribution now for a full season of contribution four years from now.

Was the trade-off worth it in the past?  If so, what's changed?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: GGGG on October 22, 2013, 11:50:07 AM
Quote from: ElDonBDon on October 22, 2013, 11:45:03 AM
Was the trade-off worth it in the past?  If so, what's changed?

Roster changes happen more often giving you more flexibility than previously.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on October 22, 2013, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on October 22, 2013, 09:16:45 AM
If it's hip, I question bringing him back at all. That would be January 14, if it is 12 weeks. Multiple Big East games already played. That's a tough learning curve. He won't have any bad teams to work out kinks or get used to the pace.

It'll be a good time for Todd Smith to work on his upper body strength though.

Good point, too bad we play DePaul once already by that point. Would be nice to get him two games against a virtual buy opponent.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Pakuni on October 22, 2013, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 22, 2013, 11:50:07 AM
Roster changes happen more often giving you more flexibility than previously.

And kids are more eager, reasonably so, to move on from college and start earning a paycheck for playing. At least those that have realistic prospects of earning a paycheck for playing.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 22, 2013, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 22, 2013, 09:16:18 AM
From what I understand, Junior didn't want to redshirt and didn't want to be in school a fifth year.

Besides, if he had taken a redshirt year and was the starting PG this season, there's the possibility that Duane would not have come to Marquette knowing that there were going to be limited minutes at the point for his first season.


Which brings us to the subject of Nick Noskowiak, and how he might be affected by a Duane redshirt.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: We R Final Four on October 22, 2013, 12:30:10 PM
I believe Nick is a junior in HS this year.  He wont be on campus until 2015. DW will be a junior then, or a redshirt sophmore.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 22, 2013, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on October 22, 2013, 12:30:10 PM
I believe Nick is a junior in HS this year.  He wont be on campus until 2015. DW will be a junior then, or a redshirt sophmore.

So, if Duane redshirts, Nick might be thinking; "My two years of likely starting, just turned into ONE year of likely starting."  People have decommitted for less reason.  Whatever decision is made, I'm certain that the coaching staff will be in contact with Nick regarding how this situation might affect him.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Sunbelt15 on October 22, 2013, 12:44:07 PM
Derrick really has a chance to prove himself as the right choice and shut all us haters up. Too bad it won't happen. We're doomed.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 22, 2013, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on October 22, 2013, 12:44:07 PM
Derrick really has a chance to prove himself as the right choice and shut all us haters up. Too bad it won't happen. We're doomed.

We still get to follow the team, to watch the games, and to hope.  That's most of what any of us gets out of any season, anyway.

And MOST importantly we still get to post!  We'll even have a new thread topic to argue about.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Jay Bee on October 22, 2013, 01:01:40 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on October 22, 2013, 12:30:10 PM
I believe Nick is a junior in HS this year.  He wont be on campus until 2015. DW will be a junior then, or a redshirt sophmore.

Multiple ballhandlers aren't always a bad thing (no hibbert). Duane has some versatility boi
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: bilsu on October 22, 2013, 02:04:10 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 22, 2013, 12:35:37 PM
So, if Duane redshirts, Nick might be thinking; "My two years of likely starting, just turned into ONE year of likely starting."  People have decommitted for less reason.  Whatever decision is made, I'm certain that the coaching staff will be in contact with Nick regarding how this situation might affect him.
Or Duane might be thinking he should play now, because Nick will start over him. The one argument in not redshirting Duane is that he may be injury prone like Otule.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 22, 2013, 02:15:28 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 22, 2013, 01:01:40 PM
Multiple ballhandlers aren't always a bad thing (no hibbert). Duane has some versatility boi


We'll have 2 or more.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: joe pop on October 23, 2013, 08:08:30 AM
is there any concrete news that this is a 8-12 week injury, or just that one tweet?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: bilsu on October 23, 2013, 08:40:19 AM
Quote from: MUBurrow on October 22, 2013, 09:53:02 AM
While the depth would be nice, not sure swapping D Wil for Junior really moves the meter much at all.
This is purely a case of underrating Cadougan and way overrating Duane Wilson. Look at it this way, if Cadougan was here this year he would be starting over Derrick. Duane, if he had stayed healthy, would not start over Derrick. Duane has the potential to be really good, but all of you are way overrating how good he was before the injury.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: joe pop on October 23, 2013, 09:51:16 AM
I think your way underrating him. Derrick wilson has taken like 12 shots in his MU career.  Duane shot 55% from three in HS.  Duane is far and away a better player than derrick wilson, and he would get more minutes than derrick from day one (may not start with Buzz's crazy habits in that regard).
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: bilsu on October 23, 2013, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: joe pop on October 23, 2013, 09:51:16 AM
I think your way underrating him. Derrick wilson has taken like 12 shots in his MU career.  Duane shot 55% from three in HS.  Duane is far and away a better player than derrick wilson, and he would get more minutes than derrick from day one (may not start with Buzz's crazy habits in that regard).
Derrick Wilson averaged 19 points in high school, so high school scoring does not necessarily mean anything. There is a lot more to playing point than hitting three point shots. It also is a lot easier to make three point shots in high school, because you are not playing against the calibur of players you are in college.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Coleman on October 23, 2013, 03:00:52 PM
My first contribution to the MUScoop rumor mill so take it or leave it, but I have heard from what I consider to be a reliable source that Duane still plans on playing the latter part of this season, barring some sort of setback in his recovery.

Not saying with 100% certainty he won't redshirt, just what I've heard
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: GGGG on October 23, 2013, 03:02:51 PM
FWIW, Mark Miller has tweeted about John Dawson looking good in practice.  Hopefully he will be able to use this to play his way into the rotation.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 23, 2013, 03:34:14 PM
Its amazing what two words can do to a thread.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: hoyasincebirth on October 23, 2013, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: joe pop on October 23, 2013, 09:51:16 AM
I think your way underrating him. Derrick wilson has taken like 12 shots in his MU career.  Duane shot 55% from three in HS.  Duane is far and away a better player than derrick wilson, and he would get more minutes than derrick from day one (may not start with Buzz's crazy habits in that regard).

high school line is also closer than the college line.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Tigidal on November 06, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Tweet from MU this morning showed the team practicing at the BC. I think that's Wilson on the left, sans boot...

pic.twitter.com/zy2h7fK000 (http://pic.twitter.com/zy2h7fK000)
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: We R Final Four on November 06, 2013, 08:48:06 AM
Indeed!--that a great sight.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: GGGG on November 06, 2013, 09:18:45 AM
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I don't think you wear a boot for a stress fracture.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: The Process on November 06, 2013, 09:26:17 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 06, 2013, 09:18:45 AM
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I don't think you wear a boot for a stress fracture.

My wife did for a stress fracture in her foot back in 2009.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: StillAWarrior on November 06, 2013, 09:26:34 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 06, 2013, 09:18:45 AM
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I don't think you wear a boot for a stress fracture.

You're forgiven.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: NersEllenson on November 06, 2013, 09:26:59 AM
Looks like Devante is still trying to wake up!
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Jay Bee on November 06, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: Ners on November 06, 2013, 09:26:59 AM
Looks like Devante is still trying to wake up!

Who dat?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: GGGG on November 06, 2013, 10:16:43 AM
Quote from: Captain Awesome on November 06, 2013, 09:26:17 AM
My wife did for a stress fracture in her foot back in 2009.


Was Duane's in his foot?  I thought it was his lower leg.

Maybe I should just shut up.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 06, 2013, 10:18:08 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on November 06, 2013, 08:48:06 AM
Indeed!--that a great sight.

In the past Buzz/MU has often been "worst case scenario" in their estimates of how much time an injured player will miss. Hope that's the case here and Duane is back sooner than expected.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: chapman on November 06, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 06, 2013, 10:18:08 AM
In the past Buzz/MU has often been "worst case scenario" in their estimates of how much time an injured player will miss. Hope that's the case here and Duane is back sooner than expected.

Just looked up Wes' injury in his freshman season.  Injury diagnosed sometime between Dec. 29 and January 3, and returned February 1.  So about 4 1/2 weeks.  If Duane has a similar recovery, he would be back sometime around the Arizona State game or the Chicos Classic.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: bilsu on November 06, 2013, 10:28:59 AM
The leg was mentioned and there was some talk about his hip. Was there ever any clarification on this? Maybe his hip was sore, because he was favoring his leg.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on November 06, 2013, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: Tigidal on November 06, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Tweet from MU this morning showed the team practicing at the BC. I think that's Wilson on the left, sans boot...

pic.twitter.com/zy2h7fK000 (http://pic.twitter.com/zy2h7fK000)
Is that Duane or Todd? Its kind of hard to tell. Duane had crutches for a week or so and now he has nothing. I talked to him in class and he said the leg is feeling much better than just 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 06, 2013, 10:38:51 AM
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on November 06, 2013, 10:34:09 AM
Is that Duane or Todd? Its kind of hard to tell. Duane had crutches for a week or so and now he has nothing. I talked to him in class and he said the leg is feeling much better than just 2 weeks ago.

That's Duane.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: brandx on November 06, 2013, 12:31:50 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 06, 2013, 10:16:43 AM

Was Duane's in his foot?  I thought it was his lower leg.

Maybe I should just shut up.

Not likely with 12,000 posts   ;D
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: jsglow on November 06, 2013, 12:42:24 PM
Perhaps Duane can play QB for the Pack this weekend.   :-\
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: The Lens on November 06, 2013, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: jsglow on November 06, 2013, 12:42:24 PM
Perhaps Duane can play QB for the Pack this weekend.   :-\

And Sandy Cohen can play receiver.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: jsglow on November 06, 2013, 01:15:05 PM
Even if his participation in practice is somewhat limited right now, reps at this juncture means that 8-12 weeks was a very conservative estimate and that he'll be more ready to play when he does get a shot because he won't have missed dozens of practice opportunities in Kasten.

Be great if he dresses Friday, even if only to cheer and restrain overly enthusiastic teammates on the bench.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Windyplayer on November 06, 2013, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on November 06, 2013, 09:18:45 AM
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I don't think you wear a boot for a stress fracture.
How dare you upset the way of thinking around here...There are two types of people in the world--those with a boot and those without a boot.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Nukem2 on November 06, 2013, 02:41:57 PM
At the Blue and Gold luncheon today, Buzz said Duane will be out for quite a while though he did say Duane was visiting the Dr. today for an evaluation update ( along with Todd and Steve who should get final clearance for actual competition following their surgeries ).
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on November 06, 2013, 03:55:05 PM
Quote from: Ners on November 06, 2013, 09:26:59 AM
Looks like Devante is still trying to wake up!

"Skooood morning"

twitter tracka
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: wadesworld on November 06, 2013, 04:47:41 PM
Quote from: Ners on November 06, 2013, 09:26:59 AM
Looks like Devante is still trying to wake up!

You sure that's not John Dawson.  That's a real short Davante if it is him.  Anderson's got a good 4 inches on him.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Steve Buscemi on November 06, 2013, 05:10:48 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on November 06, 2013, 04:47:41 PM
Anderson's got a good 4 inches on him.

Yeah, I heard that too.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: 94Warrior on November 06, 2013, 05:37:04 PM
Anybody who thinks that's Devante needs their eyes checked.  That potbelly that you think you are looking at is not a potbelly.  It is part of the railing from the Bradley Center seats behind John Dawson. 

Which poses another question, why are they practicing in the BC and not the Al?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Ardmore Mug on November 06, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
Why not? Thats where the game is being played, right??  Have the freshmen ever seen the court & buckets there??  Just saying'....
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on November 06, 2013, 07:23:40 PM
Quote from: 94Warrior on November 06, 2013, 05:37:04 PM
Anybody who thinks that's Devante needs their eyes checked.  That potbelly that you think you are looking at is not a potbelly.  It is part of the railing from the Bradley Center seats behind John Dawson. 

Which poses another question, why are they practicing in the BC and not the Al?

Why are they practicing at the BC!? Are you serious....did you ask that? They play games at the BC. Why do you think?
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on November 06, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
Quote from: 94Warrior on November 06, 2013, 05:37:04 PM
Anybody who thinks that's Devante needs their eyes checked.  That potbelly that you think you are looking at is not a potbelly.  It is part of the railing from the Bradley Center seats behind John Dawson. 

Which poses another question, why are they practicing in the BC and not the Al?

so you don't think that's Davante on the far right?  Someone does need an eye check.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: spartan3186 on November 06, 2013, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on November 06, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
so you don't think that's Davante on the far right?  Someone does need an eye check.



That is most definitely not Davante.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: wadesworld on November 06, 2013, 10:06:47 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on November 06, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
so you don't think that's Davante on the far right?  Someone does need an eye check.

Yeah like I said, it's Dawson.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Brewtown Andy on November 07, 2013, 07:24:15 AM
Quote from: guzica on November 06, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
Why not? Thats where the game is being played, right??  Have the freshmen ever seen the court & buckets there??  Just saying'....

Plus, a chance to test out the Bradley Center's side of the SportVU system.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: We R Final Four on November 07, 2013, 07:54:13 AM
His name is Davante. Maybe by graduation some MU fans will get it right. He does play for your team after all.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 07, 2013, 08:35:51 AM
Quote from: We R Final Four on November 07, 2013, 07:54:13 AM
His name is Davante. Maybe by graduation some MU fans will get it right. He does play for your team after all.

Yeah! You should know that he and O'Tule are our centers! Cheeze and rice!
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 07, 2013, 08:37:33 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 07, 2013, 08:35:51 AM
Yeah! You should know that he and O'Tule are our centers! Cheeze and rice!

O'tule lmao
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: 94Warrior on November 07, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
I have heard they have shootarounds at the BC on game days, but haven't heard of them doing so days before a game.  The vast majority of the time they practice at Kasten gym inside the Al.  I guess I should have asked is it common for the team to practice at the BC several days BEFORE a game.  

Don't bother responding if you:
1) have no info, or nothing to add
2) are a complete tool
3)  think Davante is in the photo above.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Archies Bat on November 07, 2013, 08:44:15 AM
Quote from: 94Warrior on November 07, 2013, 08:38:34 AM


Don't bother responding if you:
1) have no info, or nothing to add
2) are a complete tool
3)  think Davante is in the photo above.

I guess this thread is done
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 07, 2013, 08:57:52 AM
Quote from: 94Warrior on November 07, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
I have heard they have shootarounds at the BC on game days, but haven't heard of them doing so days before a game.  The vast majority of the time they practice at Kasten gym inside the Al.  I guess I should have asked is it common for the team to practice at the BC several days BEFORE a game. 

Don't bother responding if you:
1) have no info, or nothing to add
2) are a complete tool
3)  think Davante is in the photo above.

Ouch, okay. I guess you were voted the boss fair-and-square this week.

(http://i.imgur.com/eJ2FNDE.jpg)
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: JD on November 07, 2013, 09:16:48 AM
Bo$$ Ho$$
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: Nukem2 on November 07, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: 94Warrior on November 07, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
I have heard they have shootarounds at the BC on game days, but haven't heard of them doing so days before a game.  The vast majority of the time they practice at Kasten gym inside the Al.  I guess I should have asked is it common for the team to practice at the BC several days BEFORE a game.  

Don't bother responding if you:
1) have no info, or nothing to add
2) are a complete tool
3)  think Davante is in the photo above.
Actually at the Blue & Gold luncheon yesterday ( Wed. ), Buzz stated that they practiced at the BC the day before ( Tuesday ) to get a change of pace.  So, MU does practice at the BC at other times ( obviously depending upon availability ).
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: wadesworld on November 07, 2013, 09:44:55 AM
Quote from: 94Warrior on November 07, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
I have heard they have shootarounds at the BC on game days, but haven't heard of them doing so days before a game.  The vast majority of the time they practice at Kasten gym inside the Al.  I guess I should have asked is it common for the team to practice at the BC several days BEFORE a game.  

Don't bother responding if you:
1) have no info, or nothing to add
2) are a complete tool
3)  think Davante is in the photo above.

I'm a complete tool, so I can't respond to this post.
Title: Re: Duane out with stress fracture
Post by: mu03eng on November 07, 2013, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: Archies Bat on November 07, 2013, 08:44:15 AM
I guess this thread is done

Not until PTM draws some sweet parallel lines to prove Buzz is 6'4"
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