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Title: Steve's height
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on October 13, 2013, 09:24:39 AM
Can anyone who attended Madness confirm our deny that Steve Taylor is now 6 9"?
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Brewtown Andy on October 13, 2013, 11:08:06 AM
I heard they were patting people down for measuring tapes at the door.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 13, 2013, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on October 13, 2013, 09:24:39 AM
Can anyone who attended Madness confirm our deny that Steve Taylor is now 6 9"?

To be 6'9" is different from playing like you're 6'9".
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 13, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 13, 2013, 12:12:24 PM
To be 6'9" is different from playing like you're 6'9".

Well hes both. Absolutely killing it on the offensive glass at madness.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: keefe on October 13, 2013, 03:14:25 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 13, 2013, 12:12:24 PM
To be 6'9" is different from playing like you're 6'9".


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Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Sunbelt15 on October 13, 2013, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 13, 2013, 12:12:24 PM
To be 6'9" is different from playing like you're 6'9".

Exactly! Did he develop a post game or change shots on defense is the question.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: MUBurrow on October 13, 2013, 06:55:22 PM
Maybe he wasn't as dominant in the post as people wish, but I never thought he played smaller than his height. Just because a guy doesn't dominate the paint doesn't mean he's not down there banging/playing like a big.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: tower912 on October 13, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
He didn't have post moves, but he was a beast on the offensive glass. 
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 13, 2013, 09:03:26 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 13, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
He didn't have post moves, but he was a beast on the offensive glass. 

He played like a stretch 4 in high school. Took a lot of 3s with Simeon.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: warriorchick on October 14, 2013, 07:55:22 AM
All I know is that my son looks like Peter Dinklage when he stands next to Steve.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Brewtown Andy on October 15, 2013, 09:38:23 AM
Here's the team picture. Draw your own conclusions on height.

http://marquetteimages.com/viewphoto.php?imageId=7801077
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: kmwtrucks on October 15, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
I don't think he is 6-9. he is taller Juan and shorter then Jamil.  So I would stick with 6-7.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 15, 2013, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on October 15, 2013, 09:38:23 AM
Here's the team picture. Draw your own conclusions on height.

http://marquetteimages.com/viewphoto.php?imageId=7801077

He is a foot shorter than Wainwright...
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: 🏀 on October 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
A slightly more educated guess.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsy5p0.jpg)



I scaled it off a printed picture, and then drew the lines so they may be off.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Archies Bat on October 15, 2013, 10:49:34 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 15, 2013, 10:06:33 AM
He is a foot shorter than Wainwright...
Is that the unhappy one in the photo?
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: willie warrior on October 15, 2013, 10:57:53 AM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
A slightly more educated guess.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsy5p0.jpg)



I scaled it off a printed picture, and then drew the lines so they may be off.
Good job PTM. Two observations from your scale:
1. Buzz scales in at Munchkin height.
2. If Taylor can grow an inch, Buzz can then be let off the hook for not recruiting "quality bigs"
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: MerrittsMustache on October 15, 2013, 11:06:40 AM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
A slightly more educated guess.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsy5p0.jpg)



I scaled it off a printed picture, and then drew the lines so they may be off.

Deonte and Duane aren't happy sitting next to each other. Expect one, if not both, of them to transfer mid-season.

Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Archies Bat on October 15, 2013, 11:08:40 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 15, 2013, 11:06:40 AM
Deonte and Duane aren't happy sitting next to each other. Expect one, if not both, of them to transfer mid-season.


ding ding ding
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 15, 2013, 11:13:01 AM
Steve also hunches over more then anyone else ive seen.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: WarriorFan on October 15, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
I see 4 guys 6'8 or taller.
Not bad.
First time I can recall MU having that since I started watching them.
And previously at least one of them was always a dork from Minnesota!
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on October 15, 2013, 11:28:12 AM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
A slightly more educated guess.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsy5p0.jpg)



I scaled it off a printed picture, and then drew the lines so they may be off.

This is why scoop is awesome
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on October 15, 2013, 12:09:31 PM
I think we have more height on this team than Bo does in Madison this year
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: chapman on October 15, 2013, 12:14:32 PM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
A slightly more educated guess.

[/IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsy5p0.jpg[/img]
I scaled it off a printed picture, and then drew the lines so they may be off.

That was too great.  They should probably put this on the MU Engineering brochures to show all the awesome things that can be accomplished.


Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 15, 2013, 11:06:40 AM
Deonte and Duane aren't happy sitting next to each other. Expect one, if not both, of them to transfer mid-season.


Buzz farted just before the picture was taken. The newest scandal in college athletics is going to be coaches passing gas near players.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: 🏀 on October 15, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on October 15, 2013, 10:57:53 AM
Good job PTM. Two observations from your scale:
1. Buzz scales in at Munchkin height.
2. If Taylor can grow an inch, Buzz can then be let off the hook for not recruiting "quality bigs"

I'm guessing Buzz clocks in at 5'10". which is taller than your casual PTM.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: 🏀 on October 15, 2013, 12:47:35 PM
Quote from: chapman on October 15, 2013, 12:14:32 PM
That was too great.  They should probably put this on the MU Engineering brochures to show all the awesome things that can be accomplished.



If there's one thing MU Engineering taught me it's that Microsoft Paint can help you accomplish anything.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 15, 2013, 01:23:54 PM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
I'm guessing Buzz clocks in at 5'10". which is taller than your casual PTM.

I like to picture my PTM wearing a tuxedo t-shirt.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 15, 2013, 08:23:31 PM
Quote from: jtbh6b1 on October 15, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
I see 4 guys 6'8 or taller.
Not bad.
First time I can recall MU having that since I started watching them.
And previously at least one of them was always a dork from Minnesota!

KO's Sweet 16 team, 2003 Final 4 team, and some team in 1977.   "It's a guard's game", no?
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 15, 2013, 08:33:21 PM
Yeah, that's why the hoop is 10 ft. off the ground.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: forgetful on October 15, 2013, 09:22:45 PM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
A slightly more educated guess.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsy5p0.jpg)



I scaled it off a printed picture, and then drew the lines so they may be off.

This truly is one of the greatest treatment of a debate/issue on this board.

Kudos.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: muvanwilder on October 15, 2013, 09:54:36 PM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
A slightly more educated guess.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsy5p0.jpg)



I scaled it off a printed picture, and then drew the lines so they may be off.

This is freaking awesome, but I'm going to be that nerd that points out the scale is slightly off for any other nerds wanting more accurate heights to hopefully put this height dilemma to rest.
There is a perfect reference already in the pic which is top row of the bleachers.  Just use an iPad and zoom in on their head and compare the difference with the top of the bleachers.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Newsdreams on October 15, 2013, 09:57:59 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 15, 2013, 11:06:40 AM
Deonte and Duane aren't happy sitting next to each other. Expect one, if not both, of them to transfer mid-season.


Nah, heard from a friend of a friend that Wainwright gave them a  warning before the photo for something they did. He told them next time he would take their souls...
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Newsdreams on October 15, 2013, 10:02:16 PM
Noticed Mayo is wearing same shoes as the team plus he is smiling. Guess that means he is not leaving after this year as some have speculated.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: keefe on October 16, 2013, 12:42:41 AM
I've been really busy so I might have missed something but I notice that Fr Kelly is missing. Is he still the Team Padre? MU has always had a Jesuit on the team.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 16, 2013, 01:46:30 AM
Quote from: keefe on October 16, 2013, 12:42:41 AM
I've been really busy so I might have missed something but I notice that Fr Kelly is missing. Is he still the Team Padre? MU has always had a Jesuit on the team.

Yes, he was introduced at madness with the rest of the team.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on October 16, 2013, 04:31:50 AM
Photos don't lie.  When will the true player heights be listed on this year's roster?  It's certainly an uplifting feeling knowing that we finally have a tall team.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: warriorchick on October 16, 2013, 06:20:44 AM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on October 16, 2013, 04:31:50 AM
Photos don't lie.  When will the true player heights be listed on this year's roster?  It's certainly an uplifting feeling knowing that we finally have a tall team.

Or weight?  I noticed that Davante's stats say he is at 290.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on October 16, 2013, 06:31:37 AM
Quote from: newsdrms on October 15, 2013, 10:02:16 PM
Noticed Mayo is wearing same shoes as the team plus he is smiling. Guess that means he is not leaving after this year as some have speculated.
LOL... what does one have to do with the other? I think he is smiling because he wanted to... but his mom and big brother were in the crowd as well. That would make me smile too.

As far as where he goes next year lets get through this year first shall we? 
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on October 16, 2013, 06:37:42 AM
That is another thing....I could never understand the importance really of height nor how they measured it.

Do you measure by the tip of some guys pointed head or by the level of a guys shoulder and if one is slightly more rounded then another then he is taller????

Never thought that was a big issue. I always go on if a player plays longer or plays taller then whatever his height might be.

I go on wingspan now and vertical leap. What if a guy's top of the head or even his hair is such that makes him looker taller is just misleading.

By the naked eye Jameel might be the tallest cat on the team...and play the tallest.    
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Newsdreams on October 16, 2013, 01:38:12 PM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 16, 2013, 06:31:37 AM
LOL... what does one have to do with the other? I think he is smiling because he wanted to... but his mom and big brother were in the crowd as well. That would make me smile too.

As far as where he goes next year lets get through this year first shall we? 
Didn't think needed teal. Was in reference to this:

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=post;quote=521651;topic=40029.50;num_replies=101;sesc=b1c23ae9df1e98c98318ae1f1ba87843

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=post;quote=521685;topic=40029.75;num_replies=101;sesc=b1c23ae9df1e98c98318ae1f1ba87843

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=post;quote=521697;topic=40029.75;num_replies=101;sesc=b1c23ae9df1e98c98318ae1f1ba87843

And in the Madness thread talk about how he was wearing black shoes, while the whole team had baby blue ones, and him being selfish and not part of the team mentality
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Skatastrophy on October 16, 2013, 01:46:12 PM
Quote from: muvanwilder on October 15, 2013, 09:54:36 PM
This is freaking awesome, but I'm going to be that nerd that points out the scale is slightly off for any other nerds wanting more accurate heights to hopefully put this height dilemma to rest.
There is a perfect reference already in the pic which is top row of the bleachers.  Just use an iPad and zoom in on their head and compare the difference with the top of the bleachers.

Then you'd have to figure out how far away the bleachers are.

And you'd have to figure out how far the camera is from the players

And you'd have to figure out how far below the top of the bleachers the camera was when it took the picture.

At that point, using trigonometry, you could come to pretty much the same conclusion that PTM did using MS Paint.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: GGGG on October 16, 2013, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 16, 2013, 01:46:12 PM
Then you'd have to figure out how far away the bleachers are.

And you'd have to figure out how far the camera is from the players

And you'd have to figure out how far below the top of the bleachers the camera was when it took the picture.

At that point, using trigonometry, you could come to pretty much the same conclusion that PTM did using MS Paint.


Or just give up and start drinking.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: keefe on October 16, 2013, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 16, 2013, 06:37:42 AM
That is another thing....I could never understand the importance really of height length nor how they measured it.

Do you measure by the tip of some guys pointed head  

One of Mankind's most raging debates, actually

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Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: mu03eng on October 16, 2013, 01:52:27 PM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 12:47:35 PM
If there's one thing MU Engineering taught me it's that Microsoft Paint can help you accomplish anything.

That and all homework is "cooperative"
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 16, 2013, 02:17:39 PM
Don't know if this is accurate or not but the official Big East media guide still list Steve as 6"7. His weight did go up though, 235 now.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: 🏀 on October 16, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 16, 2013, 01:46:12 PM
Then you'd have to figure out how far away the bleachers are.

And you'd have to figure out how far the camera is from the players

And you'd have to figure out how far below the top of the bleachers the camera was when it took the picture.

At that point, using trigonometry, you could come to pretty much the same conclusion that PTM did using MS Paint.

This pretty much sums up what I was going to post. I really wanted to use the rim height, but even that's going to introduce some distortion.


Here's how we settle the debate:

There's apps that will calculate height of an object in a picture if you know the distance away when taking the picture. Someone send their child up to Steve for picture, stand 5 feet away, snap picture with the App and this debate is over.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on October 16, 2013, 05:26:27 PM
All we know for sure is that Jamil was measured this summer at 6'7" in shoes......

http://www.nikeeyb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/2013-Big-Man-ALPHABETICAL-College-Roster1.pdf
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 16, 2013, 05:30:32 PM
Has anybody considered tweeting him and just asking? I mean he seems like a legit guy so it might be worth it.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: muvanwilder on October 16, 2013, 10:08:02 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 16, 2013, 01:46:12 PM
Then you'd have to figure out how far away the bleachers are.

And you'd have to figure out how far the camera is from the players

And you'd have to figure out how far below the top of the bleachers the camera was when it took the picture.

At that point, using trigonometry, you could come to pretty much the same conclusion that PTM did using MS Paint.

Just meant to use the top of the bleachers as a reference line since its parallel to the floor they're standing on. U can use that to line up the other lines to make sure they are parallel.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: raul on October 17, 2013, 12:05:00 AM
I heard an Al story that he would actually list a player (say George Thompson) under his actual height so the opposing teams would be overconfident. So why mess with the 6'7" listing?
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: forgetful on October 17, 2013, 12:19:45 AM
Quote from: TheBuzzsaw on October 16, 2013, 05:26:27 PM
All we know for sure is that Jamil was measured this summer at 6'7" in shoes......

http://www.nikeeyb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/2013-Big-Man-ALPHABETICAL-College-Roster1.pdf

That and PTM's awesome guide would imply that Steve is closer to 6'6" (in shoes) and Gardner is a tad under 6'7" (in shoes).
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Brewtown Andy on October 17, 2013, 08:26:27 AM
Quote from: keefe on October 16, 2013, 12:42:41 AM
I've been really busy so I might have missed something but I notice that Fr Kelly is missing. Is he still the Team Padre? MU has always had a Jesuit on the team.

There's another team picture that has half the athletic department in the picture where Fr. Kelly's sitting in the front row.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Eldon on October 17, 2013, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
A slightly more educated guess.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsy5p0.jpg)



I scaled it off a printed picture, and then drew the lines so they may be off.

No, it only looks that way cause you've got one shoe on
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on October 17, 2013, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on October 16, 2013, 05:30:32 PM
Has anybody considered tweeting him and just asking? I mean he seems like a legit guy so it might be worth it.

where's the fun in that?
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 17, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
On a scale of 1 to "More Cowbell" how hilarious do you think Steve would find this thread?
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on October 18, 2013, 07:21:03 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 17, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
On a scale of 1 to "More Cowbell" how hilarious do you think Steve would find this thread?

I walked by the NBC studios gift shop over the weekend and they were selling t-shirts with the Christopher Walken visage saying "More Cowbell". 
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on October 18, 2013, 08:06:40 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on October 18, 2013, 07:21:03 AM
I walked by the NBC studios gift shop over the weekend and they were selling t-shirts with the Christopher Walken visage saying "More Cowbell". 

my wife bought one at the WI State Fair last year but switch Walken's visage with that of a cow
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: 🏀 on October 18, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
Quote from: ElDonBDon on October 17, 2013, 11:28:44 AM
No, it only looks that way cause you've got one shoe on

And a slant to the left.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: keefe on October 18, 2013, 05:02:36 PM
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on October 17, 2013, 08:26:27 AM
There's another team picture that has half the athletic department in the picture where Fr. Kelly's sitting in the front row.

That's good to hear. I cannot imagine Marquette basketball without Fr Kelly.
Title: Re: Steve's height
Post by: keefe on October 18, 2013, 05:05:23 PM
Quote from: PTM on October 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
A slightly more educated guess.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2lsy5p0.jpg)



I scaled it off a printed picture, and then drew the lines so they may be off.


Did you factor in whether Steve dresses left or right?
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