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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on October 11, 2013, 08:38:02 PM

Title: Protocols
Post by: tower912 on October 11, 2013, 08:38:02 PM
To the rules experts on this board, I have a series of questions.    First the background.   My daughter's former high school has a 7' transfer student from Italy.   He came to America for the express purpose of playing basketball and taking his game to the American college basketball system.    He will be eligible starting second semester.   I saw him at their homecoming football game this evening and nobody is lying about his height.   The first number is definitely a 7.  Skinny, though.   So.....
1.   If I am attending one of his games wearing MU paraphernalia, am I allowed to even high five him?
2.   Because I am a MU alum, am I considered a booster?
3.   Is it bad form to boo coaches from other programs who show up to see the kid?


Since he is 7', I can only assume that Buzz won't be showing up.   ;D
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 11, 2013, 08:42:57 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 11, 2013, 08:38:02 PM
To the rules experts on this board, I have a series of questions.    First the background.   My daughter's former high school has a 7' transfer student from Italy.   He came to America for the express purpose of playing basketball and taking his game to the American college basketball system.    He will be eligible starting second semester.   I saw him at their homecoming football game this evening and nobody is lying about his height.   The first number is definitely a 7.  Skinny, though.   So.....
1.   If I am attending one of his games wearing MU paraphernalia, am I allowed to even high five him?
2.   Because I am a MU alum, am I considered a booster?
3.   Is it bad form to boo coaches from other programs who show up to see the kid?


Since he is 7', I can only assume that Buzz won't be showing up.   ;D

  1. No problem with wearing MU paraphernalia, the problem is number 2, regardless of what you're wearing.  Or the problem is you would be misleading him to think that MU would ever consider granting a scholarship to a non-switchable.

  2. Yes.

  3. Yes, unless you are wearing a suit that is entirely blue and covers your entire body including your face.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 11, 2013, 08:44:03 PM
Slip him a couple of C notes in the form of a handshake and you're good.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: Jay Bee on October 11, 2013, 08:53:18 PM
LittleMurs has appropriately responded to your questions.

One option I might recommend is an "I Like Big Men" t-shirt. ZFB has several, but not in MU colors - only in pink and lavender.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: tower912 on October 11, 2013, 08:56:38 PM
It will be entertaining for me to go to the games and see how many D1 coaches make their way to see him.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: The Process on October 11, 2013, 08:59:49 PM
I think the solution here is to dress in Badger attire and show up trashed to every game.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: tower912 on October 11, 2013, 09:04:56 PM
Quote from: Captain Awesome on October 11, 2013, 08:59:49 PM
I think the solution here is to dress in Badger attire and show up trashed to every game.


I like it, though I think if I were actually wearing Badger attire, I would instinctively vomit.   
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: brewcity77 on October 11, 2013, 09:14:57 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 11, 2013, 09:04:56 PM

I like it, though I think if I were actually wearing Badger attire, I would instinctively vomit.   

Which would likely only serve to make Badger fans look like idiots. Proceed with Awesome's plan immediately.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: BrewCity83 on October 11, 2013, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 11, 2013, 09:04:56 PM

I like it, though I think if I were actually wearing Badger attire, I would instinctively vomit.   

Wear Badger gear and vomit on him.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: chapman on October 11, 2013, 09:36:06 PM
Honestly, no need to put in all the effort to humiliate yourself.  Some Badger fan is probably bound to go ahead and do it on his own.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on October 11, 2013, 09:51:20 PM
Quote from: tower912 on October 11, 2013, 08:38:02 PM
To the rules experts on this board, I have a series of questions.    First the background.   My daughter's former high school has a 7' transfer student from Italy.   He came to America for the express purpose of playing basketball and taking his game to the American college basketball system.    He will be eligible starting second semester.   I saw him at their homecoming football game this evening and nobody is lying about his height.   The first number is definitely a 7.  Skinny, though.   So.....
1.   If I am attending one of his games wearing MU paraphernalia, am I allowed to even high five him?
2.   Because I am a MU alum, am I considered a booster?
3.   Is it bad form to boo coaches from other programs who show up to see the kid?


Since he is 7', I can only assume that Buzz won't be showing up.   ;D

Good luck with that high five!
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: wadesworld on October 11, 2013, 10:22:29 PM
Is #1 a trick question?  We don't high 5 at Marquette, remember?  Vander taught me that 1.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on October 12, 2013, 12:09:13 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 11, 2013, 08:42:57 PM
  1. No problem with wearing MU paraphernalia, the problem is number 2, regardless of what you're wearing.  Or the problem is you would be misleading him to think that MU would ever consider granting a scholarship to a non-switchable.

  2. Yes.

  3. Yes, unless you are wearing a suit that is entirely blue and covers your entire body including your face.

I've always thought being a booster required more than just being an alum. The NCAA's website doesn't specify all alums as such:http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/Resources+OLD/Role+of+boosters+in+intercollegiate+athletics
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on October 12, 2013, 06:21:31 AM
I would email the coaches about this cat.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 12, 2013, 07:18:46 AM
Yeah, no doubt they'd be interested.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: tower912 on October 12, 2013, 07:39:19 AM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on October 12, 2013, 06:21:31 AM
I would email the coaches about this cat.

Good idea.    I need someone to  PM me an e-mail address for someone on the coaching staff.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 12, 2013, 07:50:48 AM
Quote from: tower912 on October 12, 2013, 07:39:19 AM
Good idea.    I need someone to  PM me an e-mail address for someone on the coaching staff.

http://www.gomarquette.com/athletic-dept/marq-athletic-dept.html
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 12, 2013, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on October 12, 2013, 12:09:13 AM
I've always thought being a booster required more than just being an alum. The NCAA's website doesn't specify all alums as such:http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/Resources+OLD/Role+of+boosters+in+intercollegiate+athletics

AWegrzyn17 has pointed out a great resource for defining booster danger zones.  While being "just" an alum isn't covered, for all intents and purposes being an alum who follows your schools athletic teams will somehow put you under one of the definitions.

In your example, is wearing MU gear to the Italian kid's HS games (and giving him a high five) mean that you have:

 a) "Assisted ... in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes", or

 b) "Been involved otherwise in promoting university athletics"?

As a practical matter, the answer is probably if the NCAA wants to consider you has having done either of the above, they will consider you to have done either of the above, and that would make you a booster.  It's worth noting that once a you have been branded a booster you will forevermore wear a scarlet "B" in the mind of the NCAA.
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: tower912 on October 12, 2013, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 12, 2013, 07:50:48 AM
http://www.gomarquette.com/athletic-dept/marq-athletic-dept.html


Thanks.    Done. 
Title: Re: Protocols
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on October 12, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 12, 2013, 08:54:05 AM
AWegrzyn17 has pointed out a great resource for defining booster danger zones.  While being "just" an alum isn't covered, for all intents and purposes being an alum who follows your schools athletic teams will somehow put you under one of the definitions.

In your example, is wearing MU gear to the Italian kid's HS games (and giving him a high five) mean that you have:

 a) "Assisted ... in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes", or

 b) "Been involved otherwise in promoting university athletics"?

As a practical matter, the answer is probably if the NCAA wants to consider you has having done either of the above, they will consider you to have done either of the above, and that would make you a booster.  It's worth noting that once a you have been branded a booster you will forevermore wear a scarlet "B" in the mind of the NCAA.

Definitely agree that the definitions are broad and somewhat vague. Given the minuscule impact of contacting recruits, it's best just to steer clear.
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