Jimmy Butler will join Derek Rose and Luol Deng in a sort of three guard offense this season. Switchables you might say.
Nice to see our man get credit for all the work he puts in:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-09-29/sports/ct-spt-0929-bits-bulls-chicago-20130929_1_tom-thibodeau-derrick-rose-bulls
http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/444/article/p2p-77639792/
I know it's wise to temper Bulls fandom on this board but they're going to be awfully fun to watch.
How anyone can cheer against this Bulls team is beyond me. And I'm a Bucks fan.
Jimmy Butler will be in the top 5 in minutes played this season.
Quote from: The Lens on October 04, 2013, 08:43:00 AM
How anyone can cheer against this Bulls team is beyond me. And I'm a Bucks fan.
Nope, screw the Bulls.
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Quote from: The Lens on October 04, 2013, 08:43:00 AM
How anyone can cheer against this Bulls team is beyond me. And I'm a Bucks fan.
When you're campus is full of people telling you how great Chicago is it's really easy.
Heh. I thought this was going to be a thread about the Bulldogs.
Quote from: Stronghold on October 04, 2013, 09:26:50 AM
When you're campus is full of people telling you how great Chicago is it's really easy.
Who else you going to cheer for, the Heat? No thanks.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 04, 2013, 08:55:36 AM
Nope, screw the Bulls.
Can you elaborate on your reasons for hating on the bulls? I'm a Bulls fan and other than Joakim Noah, I can't really see much to hate about them. They are the first team I mention when I hear the argument, "No one plays defense in the NBA!" Also, Rose, Deng and Butler are as classy as they come.
Quote from: The Lens on October 04, 2013, 08:43:00 AM
How anyone can cheer against this Bulls team is beyond me. And I'm a Bucks fan.
Cuz they are from Chicago.
For a trio of Rose, Butler and Deng to be effective on the offensive ends, Jimmy will have to have improved his 3 percentage. let's hope.
Quote from: warriorchick on October 04, 2013, 09:28:46 AM
Heh. I thought this was going to be a thread about the Bulldogs.
I was hoping that Butler Love was a new big man recruit.
I think it has a lot to do with fact that I would rather watch Valpo take on Northern Illinois that sit through an entire NBA game. The NBA playoffs starting at the conference finals are worth watching. Before that, no thanks...
Oh look, another Chicago Bulls circlejerk.
Quote from: The Lens on October 04, 2013, 09:33:39 AM
Who else you going to cheer for, the Heat? No thanks.
Til the day I die...or Wade retires. But I do pull for Chicago now that Butler is there. But Wade will always be my favorite player
Quote from: flash on October 04, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
Can you elaborate on your reasons for hating on the bulls? I'm a Bulls fan and other than Joakim Noah, I can't really see much to hate about them. They are the first team I mention when I hear the argument, "No one plays defense in the NBA!" Also, Rose, Deng and Butler are as classy as they come.
For the exact reason I will never cheer for the Chicago Bears.
And this is the reason Chicagoans cant stand Wisconsinites. You have this inferiority complex that you have a blind hatred for Chicago.
Tell me when the Chicago press starts referring him by his real superhero Scoop name and then I will care: Jimmy F. Butler. Dude has hasn't come out of a game in like a season. Man of Steel.
Quote from: flash on October 04, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
Can you elaborate on your reasons for hating on the bulls? I'm a Bulls fan and other than Joakim Noah, I can't really see much to hate about them. They are the first team I mention when I hear the argument, "No one plays defense in the NBA!" Also, Rose, Deng and Butler are as classy as they come.
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Quote from: esard2011 on October 04, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
And this is the reason Chicagoans cant stand Wisconsinites. You have this inferiority complex that you have a blind hatred for Chicago.
Nailed it.
Quote from: esard2011 on October 04, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
And this is the reason Chicagoans cant stand Wisconsinites. You have this inferiority complex that you have a blind hatred for Chicago.
No, this is something that is made up by people from Chicago. Its actually really sad. They think we have this complex but really it is called a sports rivalry.
I won't cheer for the Bears, Bulls, Cubs, Sox, or Hawks. Just like I won't cheer for the Vikings, T-Wolves, Twins or Wild.
It has nothing to do with the city, which I happen to love visiting. For some reason Chicago sports fans can't understand this. At least the Minnesota fans get it.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 04, 2013, 12:05:53 PM
No, this is something that is made up by people from Chicago. Its actually really sad. They think we have this complex but really it is called a sports rivalry.
I won't cheer for the Bears, Bulls, Cubs, Sox, or Hawks. Just like I won't cheer for the Vikings, T-Wolves, Twins or Wild.
It has nothing to do with the city, which I happen to love visiting. For some reason Chicago sports fans can't understand this. At least the Minnesota fans get it.
If you won't cheer for certain team simply because of the state they're from, that seems to indicate that it's more than just a "sports rivalry."
For instance, why would you cheer against the Blackhawks and Wild when you have no "hometown" NHL rival to cheer for? Also, I guess I haven't been paying close enough attention to the heated Bucks-Twolves rivalry.
I'm as big a James F. Butler fan as there is, but I will never root for the Bulls because their fans are intolerable.
I hate how they treated Wade (really wanted to sign him, didn't sign him, got butt hurt, then act super-critical of him). I didn't like how they treated D. Rose this past year (shouldn't need an explanation). Deng was almost dying last year and felt the need to defend himself because he was being attacked for not being tough.
J. Noah is one of the most annoying players in the league, Rose has no personality, Deng is fine, Nate Robinson seems like a punk (and he has beef with Steve Novak) . . . . and they play a lot of ugly low-scoring games (because of great D by a great coach).
Why would someone not from Chicago like this team?
Quote from: esard2011 on October 04, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
And this is the reason Chicagoans cant stand Wisconsinites. You have this inferiority complex that you have a blind hatred for Chicago.
Yeah New Yorkers have an inferiority complex when it comes to their "blind" hatred of Boston sports teams too.
:D
This mindset is exactly why FIBs are called FIBs.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 04, 2013, 12:05:53 PM
No, this is something that is made up by people from Chicago. Its actually really sad. They think we have this complex but really it is called a sports rivalry.
I won't cheer for the Bears, Bulls, Cubs, Sox, or Hawks. Just like I won't cheer for the Vikings, T-Wolves, Twins or Wild.
It has nothing to do with the city, which I happen to love visiting. For some reason Chicago sports fans can't understand this. At least the Minnesota fans get it.
Exactly! As I tell people all the time, I think Chicago is a fantastic city, if it were not for the Bears and Cubs I would not have a bad thing to say about it.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 11:46:19 AM
Nailed it.
Let me guess, you were the biggest Brewers fan there was in 2011 when your Cubs were awful and the Brewers were making the NLCS because Chicagoans don't have an inferiority complex with Milwaukee.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 04, 2013, 12:24:22 PM
Yeah New Yorkers have an inferiority complex when it comes to their "blind" hatred of Boston sports teams too.
:D
This mindset is exactly why FIBs are called FIBs.
What you're missing is that Boston sports fans hate NY teams just as much. Most Chicago sports fans are largely indifferent to the Brewers and Bucks. The Packers are really the only true rival to Chicago's sports teams yet, as Hards pointed out, Wisconsin sports fans hate the Blackhawks simply for being from Chicago.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 04, 2013, 12:28:22 PM
Let me guess, you were the biggest Brewers fan there was in 2011 when your Cubs were awful and the Brewers were making the NLCS because Chicagoans don't have an inferiority complex with Milwaukee.
Absolutely! Every true blue Cub fan was rooting for the Brewers in the NLCS...because they were playing the Cubs' biggest rival.
Both sides are trending toward Bucky like intensity here.
"Can we all get along?"
-Rodney King
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on October 04, 2013, 12:05:53 PM
No, this is something that is made up by people from Chicago. Its actually really sad. They think we have this complex but really it is called a sports rivalry.
I won't cheer for the Bears, Bulls, Cubs, Sox, or Hawks. Just like I won't cheer for the Vikings, T-Wolves, Twins or Wild.
It has nothing to do with the city, which I happen to love visiting. For some reason Chicago sports fans can't understand this. At least the Minnesota fans get it.
I think hatred of another sports team outs you as being a dork. Honestly, I could never understand those folks who get so wrapped up in a pro sports team that they take someone cheering for another team as a personal affront. The Bears are my team but I like the Pack, this comes from the respect that I think is due them as a franchise. I would lying if I said I didn't love the fact that the Bears won every game against the Pack when I was in school. It drove my Packer fan friends nuts. I will go onto say that as a NBA hater the Bulls are becoming harder to hate.
Quote from: esard2011 on October 04, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
And this is the reason Chicagoans cant stand Wisconsinites. You have this inferiority complex that you have a blind hatred for Chicago.
Actually its the assumption that you think we are inferior that usually leads us to hate Chicagoans. We love the city, just hate the way its residents go on about how it is god's gift to man
Quote from: esard2011 on October 04, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
And this is the reason Chicagoans cant stand Wisconsinites. You have this inferiority complex that you have a blind hatred for Chicago.
Most Wisconsinites I know love Chicago. And Chicagoans. They just don't like their sports teams...you know...cause they are rivals.
Don't make sports more than it is. It's just sports.
I root for the following NBA teams (in no particular order)
Miami Wades
Chicago Butlers
Portland Matthewses
Dallas Crowders
Toronto Buycks-Novaks
Sacramento Locketts
Hopefully get to add:
Philadelphia Blues
New Orleans Haywards
Los Angeles Johnson-Odoms
God I'm sick of this fight.
I get it. Sometimes it's just fun to hate, it makes sports more fun.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 04, 2013, 12:28:22 PM
Let me guess, you were the biggest Brewers fan there was in 2011 when your Cubs were awful and the Brewers were making the NLCS because Chicagoans don't have an inferiority complex with Milwaukee.
I know a lot of Cubs fans, and spend too much time on MLB Forums. By a very wide margin, Cubs fans were rooting for the Brewers over the Cardinals in 2011.
Quote from: CrazyEcho on October 04, 2013, 12:22:45 PM
I hate how they treated Wade (really wanted to sign him, didn't sign him, got butt hurt, then act super-critical of him). I didn't like how they treated D. Rose this past year (shouldn't need an explanation). Deng was almost dying last year and felt the need to defend himself because he was being attacked for not being tough.
How they treated Wade???? Wade made some stupid remarks about the Bulls ownership. I believe he said that they are not loyal to their players. That is insane. Jerry Reinsdorf is incredibly loyal, to a fault. Wade's ego is why people from Chicago don't like Wade. He has been a great rival to the Bulls, but he has also been known to cheap shot, cry about calls, complain about our players (notable Kirk Heinrich who has been shutting him down for the last decade), and hit a game winning shot or two against the Los Bulls.(probably more, i dont have the numbers). Many of us respect his game, but not a lot of Bulls fans like the guy.
The Deng and Rose things were more national media. There are idiots in every sports town, and The Worldwide Leader loves to quote them.
Oh, and Nate Robinson is no longer on the Bulls.
Quote from: esard2011 on October 04, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
And this is the reason Chicagoans cant stand Wisconsinites. You have this inferiority complex that you have a blind hatred for Chicago.
Sounds like someone with an inferiority complex.
As a Packers, Bucks, and Brewers fan I'll just give my feelings about each rivalry.
The Packers-Bears rivalry is clearly the biggest and I do hope the Bears lose every game.
The Bulls have been better than the Bucks pretty much my whole life except for one season (2000-2001) so I don't hate them. I agree that the Bulls are a likable team. They play extremely hard and I can see similarities to the way Marquette plays.
As for the Brewers-Cubs rivalry, most years they are both very average. I think it's hard for both fan bases to have any real hatred considering the Brewers have never won a World Series and the Cubs haven't won one since 1908. I think both fan bases hate the Cardinals more than they care about each other.
I am admittedly a casual NHL fan, but I do cheer for the Blackhawks come playoff time. They are the closest NHL team to me and I've been to a few playoff games and they are a lot of fun!
Wasn't their a brewers sox rivalry back when the brewers were in the AL?
Quote from: CrazyEcho on October 04, 2013, 12:22:45 PM
J. Noah is one of the most annoying players in the league, Rose has no personality, Deng is fine, Nate Robinson seems like a punk (and he has beef with Steve Novak) . . . . and they play a lot of ugly low-scoring games (because of great D by a great coach).
Why would someone not from Chicago like this team?
Because Noah plays like there's no tomorrow, because Rose is the most humble superstar in all of sports, because Deng is fine, because Nate is gone, because they actually play defense, and because the have JFB.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on October 04, 2013, 01:43:23 PM
Wasn't their a brewers sox rivalry back when the brewers were in the AL?
It wasn't huge. They were in different divisions and were never really good at the same time. There were some blowups, like when Phil Garner and Terry Bevington were feuding, but that was the exception.
The Brewers fans are the worst baseball fans...not because of their intensity, lack of support, or obnoxiousness, but for their over propensity to only have to go to the bathroom during an inning. Good lord, does the entire state have bladder infections?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 04, 2013, 02:02:03 PM
The Brewers fans are the worst baseball fans...not because of their intensity, lack of support, or obnoxiousness, but for their over propensity to only have to go to the bathroom during an inning. Good lord, does the entire state have bladder infections?
They drink so much beer that they break the seal and we all know what happens once you break the seal
One thing I forgot to mention about the White Sox. After the Braves left for Atlanta, Milwaukee hosted a number of White Sox games every year to huge crowds. And in fact Bud Selig almost bought the White Sox and moved them to Milwaukee, but the AL blocked the move. He bought Seattle the next year.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 04, 2013, 12:20:36 PM
If you won't cheer for certain team simply because of the state they're from, that seems to indicate that it's more than just a "sports rivalry."
For instance, why would you cheer against the Blackhawks and Wild when you have no "hometown" NHL rival to cheer for? Also, I guess I haven't been paying close enough attention to the heated Bucks-Twolves rivalry.
I'm a Red Wings fan, but would instantly drop them if a team moved to Wisconsin.
Quote from: john31 on October 04, 2013, 12:37:51 PM
I think hatred of another sports team outs you as being a dork. Honestly, I could never understand those folks who get so wrapped up in a pro sports team that they take someone cheering for another team as a personal affront. The Bears are my team but I like the Pack, this comes from the respect that I think is due them as a franchise. I would lying if I said I didn't love the fact that the Bears won every game against the Pack when I was in school. It drove my Packer fan friends nuts. I will go onto say that as a NBA hater the Bulls are becoming harder to hate.
Cool opinion. You're saying that anyone that hates another sports team makes them a dork? I don't take someone cheering for their team as a personal affront. I'm saying that I won't cheer for the Bulls. Why should I? If there are no rivalries in sports they sure as hell become boring. Better tell all those Tottenham Hotspur fans that they are dorks for hating the Gunners.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 04, 2013, 12:28:22 PM
Let me guess, you were the biggest Brewers fan there was in 2011 when your Cubs were awful and the Brewers were making the NLCS because Chicagoans don't have an inferiority complex with Milwaukee.
You realize in Chicago, no one considers the Brewers a rival. All hate is directed down south to the Cardinals.
You guys call people from Illinois "fibs". Illinois people don't have a name for Wisconsinites.
Aside from the Packers, Chicago people don't think twice about any Wisconsin teams.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 04, 2013, 02:02:03 PM
Good lord, does the entire state have bladder infections?
That's only been true since the Wisconsin boys started interbreeding with the Illinois girls.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 02:20:54 PM
Aside from the Packers, Chicago people don't think twice about any Wisconsin teams.
Teams generally have to be good and/or be a pain in your team's side for an extended period of time before any rivalry can form.
The Bucks have been for so long, and the Brewers too new to the NL/not good enough for long enough to form a rivalry with the Cubs. If either were ever successful at the same time their Chicago counterpart was I think the rivalry would heat up...but right now how can the Bulls have a rivalry (or Bulls fans even notice) a team that has been as bad as the Bucks for so long?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 02:20:54 PM
You realize in Chicago, no one considers the Brewers a rival. All hate is directed down south to the Cardinals.
You guys call people from Illinois "fibs". Illinois people don't have a name for Wisconsinites.
Aside from the Packers, Chicago people don't think twice about any Wisconsin teams.
Gosh, for not thinking twice, they sure do feel the need to constantly tell us things like how they don't think twice about Wisconsin teams.
Quote from: warrior07 on October 04, 2013, 02:27:52 PM
Gosh, for not thinking twice, they sure do feel the need to constantly tell us things like how they don't think twice about Wisconsin teams.
Don't get me wrong, I hate all Wisconsin teams (EDIT: except Marquette) after living in Milwaukee for school. It is a rivalry for me.
The majority of Illinois people who didn't live in Wisconsin couldn't care less.
Quote from: warriorchick on October 04, 2013, 09:28:46 AM
Heh. I thought this was going to be a thread about the Bulldogs.
I thought it would be about the Royal Family.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 04, 2013, 02:02:03 PM
The Brewers fans are the worst baseball fans...not because of their intensity, lack of support, or obnoxiousness, but for their over propensity to only have to go to the bathroom during an inning. Good lord, does the entire state have bladder infections?
Went to Wrigley a few years back. Yovanni runs to cover first base , gets tangled with runner and falls to the grass clutching his blown out knee.
Hundreds of Cubs fans cheered.
After 15 min when Yo got up, same hundreds of fans booed.
You're right dr. Bathroom breaks are much worse. ::)
Went to Miller Park a few years back and was walking back to campus and had a car full of Brewer fans throw a beer bottle at my friends and I since we were wearing Cubs gear.
What's your point? All teams have moron fans.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on October 04, 2013, 02:04:26 PM
They drink so much beer that they break the seal and we all know what happens once you break the seal
You get up and block my view from my seat on the first pitch of the inning instead of getting up 10 seconds earlier?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 02:40:40 PM
Went to Miller Park a few years back and was walking back to campus and had a car full of Brewer fans throw a beer bottle at my friends and I since we were wearing Cubs gear.
What's your point? All teams have moron fans.
+1
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 02:32:25 PM
Don't get me wrong, I hate all Wisconsin teams (EDIT: except Marquette) after living in Milwaukee for school. It is a rivalry for me.
The majority of Illinois people who didn't live in Wisconsin couldn't care less.
That's because the only rivalry that has been all that important is the Packers and Bears.
Who the unnatural carnal knowledge cares?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 02:40:40 PM
Went to Miller Park a few years back and was walking back to campus and had a car full of Brewer fans throw a beer bottle at my friends and I since we were wearing Cubs gear.
What's your point? All teams have moron fans.
Yeah- some teams fans are just a little more so than others. See Cubs fan.
Quote from: We R Final Four on October 04, 2013, 03:05:26 PM
Yeah- some teams fans are just a little more so than others. See Cubs fan.
You are just exposed to more Cubs fans, don't make this more difficult than what it is.
Quote from: PTM on October 04, 2013, 03:03:18 PM
Who the unnatural carnal knowledge cares?
Because when both teams are so bad it is more fun to knock each other...
All kidding aside, both fans bases are great. Both baseball stadiums are fun to attend. If only the Brewers fans could get up between innings. Some Cubs fans do enjoy watching the game, no matter how bad the ex-Brewer alumni was at managing the Cubs. ;D
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 04, 2013, 03:10:14 PM
Because when both teams are so bad it is more fun to knock each other...
All kidding aside, both fans bases are great. Both baseball stadiums are fun to attend. If only the Brewers fans could get up between innings. Some Cubs fans do enjoy watching the game, no matter how bad the ex-Brewer alumni was at managing the Cubs. ;D
I will agree people do not sit down in Miller Park. I feel like the bigger rows make it more inviting to make people move.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 04, 2013, 03:10:14 PM
Because when both teams are so bad it is more fun to knock each other...
All kidding aside, both fans bases are great. Both baseball stadiums are fun to attend. If only the Brewers fans could get up between innings. Some Cubs fans do enjoy watching the game, no matter how bad the ex-Brewer alumni was at managing the Cubs. ;D
As a Brewer season ticket holder with seats on the aisle, I could not agree more. Unfortunately, you get half the row's traffic being on the aisle; but at least I can move in and out of my seat any time I want without getting in anyone's sightline.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 02:20:54 PM
You realize in Chicago, no one considers the Brewers a rival. All hate is directed down south to the Cardinals.
You guys call people from Illinois "fibs". Illinois people don't have a name for Wisconsinites.
Aside from the Packers, Chicago people don't think twice about any Wisconsin teams.
Oh, so Chicagoans have an inferiority complex to St. Louis citizens then. Because they hope the Cardinals lose every game. Got it.
Or wait, could it be called being a sports fan?
So any city that has a sports team with a rival of another city and wants that other city's team to lose every game has an inferiority complex to that city? Interesting perspective.
Big ol' Chicago has an inferiority complex to tiny lil Green Bay. That's funny.
But wait, it's only when it's Milwaukee fans hating on Chicago sports teams. Chicagoans don't care if the Brewers win 115 games and win the World Series. They're happy being 105 years and counting without those. And they don't care if the Bucks win the Central Division and break the Bulls single season win record in rout to a NBA Championship. They wouldn't even blink. Nobody other than Milwaukeeans root against teams within their own divisions.
Also nobody needs to tell me the Brewers aren't the Cubs biggest rival. Why would they be? They've been in the same division much shorter and have had far less success than the Cardinals. It's not like Brewers fans hope to see the Cardinals succeed and the Cubs suck. The Cardinals are FAR AND AWAY my most hated team. The Cubs are beyond irrelevant. The only reason I hope they suck is because they are in the same division as the Brewers. Why would I want anyone other than the Brewers to have success in the Central? Not sure how a Cubs fan could be happy with other teams being better than they are. That means their team didn't do as well. If there was an inferiority complex then Brewers fans would hate the White Sox just as much as they hate the Cubs. I couldn't care less about the White Sox.
The only added benefit to seeing the Cubs fail is because their fans are completely ignorant. Every year for 105 years next year is their year, no matter how bad they are. And they walk around claiming other teams have an inferiority complex. Heh. I'm hoping the Crew can go 105 years without a World Series baby! They remind me of the Vikings fans in that sense. They think they have God's gift to baseball, yet they continually suck. For a fan base who claims to not give a second thought to the Brewers, they sure do talk a lot about the inferiority complex Brewers fans have and their trips to "Wrigley North." It's cute though. At least Brewers fans are willing to admit they hate the Cubs. Cubs fans tell themselves they don't hate the Brewers. Too good for those losers! Hah. Coming from the lovable losers...
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 04, 2013, 12:44:36 PM
Most Wisconsinites I know love Chicago. And Chicagoans. They just don't like their sports teams...you know...cause they are rivals.
What Rivals? Outside of the Packers - Bears storied rivalry...
Cubs have White Sox and Cardinals.
Bulls have Pistons, Pacers, Jazz and Knicks (depending on the era).
Blackhawks have the Red Wings and Blues.
The Chief has Indiana and Mizzou.
You can't force rivalries to happen, just like you can't force two people to like each other. Do we really say that DePaul is our rival because they're 90 minutes from campus? There's just not enough bad blood for there to be a rivalry.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 02:40:40 PM
Went to Miller Park a few years back and was walking back to campus and had a car full of Brewer fans throw a beer bottle at my friends and I since we were wearing Cubs gear.
What's your point? All teams have moron fans.
Sure it wasn't just 'cuz you were wearin' your GE garb?
Chicago v. Milwaukee is a tangled web of alliances. First, it was a Chicagoian who moved the Braves out of Milwaukee. The Appleton Foxes were the White Sox farm team once upon a time...which created a long level of loyalty to the Sox in Wisconsin as fans could see these stars move up. But, the Brewers came back into the American League.
I can tell you with no uncertainty, Brewers vs. Sox games were living brawls, far worse than versus the Cubs. I was at Comiskey one game, and a fan passed out and was being taken out on a stretcher. As he passed, an empty paper beer cup war broke out between the two large groups of team fans as each chanted either "White Sox fan" or "Brewers fan" as they carted the lad out. This soon led to fisticuffs, and the police escorting these groups (40 in total) out. That left only four of us in the entire stadium to watch the game...because 90% of the total crowd had now been ejected via ambulance or paddy wagon. How do I remember this, it was the longest game in American League history that lasted two days. We were the only four fans who can say they watched the entire 25 inning game. Surreal.
So the Brewers were my AL team and Bud went and ruined it for the Cubs fans. It is so much more civil now...and friends tailgate together, and most abuse is good natured. However, back in those days, one feared for their lives in the bleachers of County Stadium when the South Siders came to town. Motorcycle gangs roamed right field. I think there was even an attempt to kidnap Bernie.
Quote from: The Lens on October 04, 2013, 08:43:00 AM
How anyone can cheer against this Bulls team is beyond me. And I'm a Bucks fan.
Easy if you're a Heat or Wade fan, knowing the Bulls will probably be their main contender.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 04, 2013, 05:00:01 PM
If there was an inferiority complex then Brewers fans would hate the White Sox just as much as they hate the Cubs. I couldn't care less about the White Sox.
Then you must not have been a Brewers fan before the move to the NL; they absolutely HATED the White Sox. Phil Garner challenged the White Sox announcers to a fight, (after they accussed the Brewers of throwing at Sox hitters.) Tony Phillips ran into the stands at County Stadium to beat up two guys he claimed called him the N word.
Quote from: Badgerhater on October 04, 2013, 12:48:25 PM
I root for the following NBA teams (in no particular order)
Miami Wades
Chicago Butlers
Portland Matthewses
Dallas Crowders
Toronto Buycks-Novaks
Sacramento Locketts
Hopefully get to add:
Philadelphia Blues
New Orleans Haywards
Los Angeles Johnson-Odoms
Awesome post. Because it's true.
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on October 04, 2013, 07:15:58 PM
Then you must not have been a Brewers fan before the move to the NL; they absolutely HATED the White Sox. Phil Garner challenged the White Sox announcers to a fight, (after they accussed the Brewers of throwing at Sox hitters.) Tony Phillips ran into the stands at County Stadium to beat up two guys he claimed called him the N word.
Right. They USED TO. When they were in the same division. That's my point. If Milwaukeeans had an inferiority complex they would hate all Chicago sports teams. Instead they hate all a Chicago sports teams...that are in their division. Like any diehard sports fan does.
So, you're cool with Notre Dame and Louisville now? They're no longer in our conference.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 04, 2013, 08:04:55 PM
Right. They USED TO. When they were in the same division. That's my point. If Milwaukeeans had an inferiority complex they would hate all Chicago sports teams. Instead they hate all a Chicago sports teams...that are in their division. Like any diehard sports fan does.
The Sox and Brewers were never in the same division. The Brewers were in the AL East. Oh, how Brewer fans hated the Bluejays for winning those division titles.
After the Olympic gold medal hockey game against Canada, Milwaukee was like 4th in the Nielsen ratings, despite not having its own hockey team.
Anyway, I'm talkin to my buddy after the game and I say "the Blackhawks should play at least a few preseason games every year at the Bradley Center. We don't have an NHL team and the Bhawks could expand their fanbase by at least 1.7 million more people."
His response was "maaaan, f*ck Chicago, Ill never root for them"
I don't get this at all. I mean clearly theres the Pack-Bears (didnt the Bears actually work to keep the Packers in GB back in the day?), and even if the Brewers-Cubs/White Sox is/was a rivalry, I dont see how that precludes Milwaukeeans from rooting for the Blackhawks. I know people from Indiana who root for the Cubs, but hate the Bulls. And Im sure there are plenty of Blazers fans who root for the Seahawks, Jazz fans who root for the Broncos, etc.
Quote from: ElDonBDon on October 04, 2013, 08:49:02 PM
After the Olympic gold medal hockey game against Canada, Milwaukee was like 4th in the Nielsen ratings, despite not having its own hockey team.
Anyway, I'm talkin to my buddy after the game and I say "the Blackhawks should play at least a few preseason games every year at the Bradley Center. We don't have an NHL team and the Bhawks could expand their fanbase by at least 1.7 million more people."
His response was "maaaan, f*ck Chicago, Ill never root for them"
I don't get this at all. I mean clearly theres the Pack-Bears (didnt the Bears actually work to keep the Packers in GB back in the day?), and even if the Brewers-Cubs/White Sox is/was a rivalry, I dont see how that precludes Milwaukeeans from rooting for the Blackhawks. I know people from Indiana who root for the Cubs, but hate the Bulls. And Im sure there are plenty of Blazers fans who root for the Seahawks, Jazz fans who root for the Broncos, etc.
Are you a Badger football fan?
Quote from: wadesworld on October 04, 2013, 08:55:12 PM
Are you a Badger football fan?
More so when I was a kid. As time has gone on, I'd say I've slid to becoming a very casual fan. Mostly because my love of football died when Brett Favre got slammed into retirement.
Quote from: ElDonBDon on October 04, 2013, 08:49:02 PM
After the Olympic gold medal hockey game against Canada, Milwaukee was like 4th in the Nielsen ratings, despite not having its own hockey team.
Anyway, I'm talkin to my buddy after the game and I say "the Blackhawks should play at least a few preseason games every year at the Bradley Center. We don't have an NHL team and the Bhawks could expand their fanbase by at least 1.7 million more people."
His response was "maaaan, f*ck Chicago, Ill never root for them"
I don't get this at all. I mean clearly theres the Pack-Bears (didnt the Bears actually work to keep the Packers in GB back in the day?), and even if the Brewers-Cubs/White Sox is/was a rivalry, I dont see how that precludes Milwaukeeans from rooting for the Blackhawks. I know people from Indiana who root for the Cubs, but hate the Bulls. And Im sure there are plenty of Blazers fans who root for the Seahawks, Jazz fans who root for the Broncos, etc.
Territory already claimed
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Quote from: wadesworld on October 04, 2013, 08:04:55 PM
Right. They USED TO. When they were in the same division. That's my point. If Milwaukeeans had an inferiority complex they would hate all Chicago sports teams. Instead they hate all a Chicago sports teams...that are in their division. Like any diehard sports fan does.
And the Blackhawks hate?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 11:42:10 PM
And the Blackhawks hate?
Incredibly, incredibly overrated. The few people that I know that actually care about hockey either adopted the Blackhawks as their favorite team or have a different favorite team for another reason (1 lived in Buffalo when he was young so his favorite team is the Sabres). The LARGE majority of Milwaukeeans do not care 1 bit about hockey. There is very, very little Blackhawk hate in Milwaukee. In fact, aside from the day or 2 leading up to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals when the Blackhawks are in it through the Stanley Cup Parade when the Blackhawks win it, I would guess Milwaukee and Chicago are very similar in their attitudes towards hockey...nobody cares and nobody knows what's going on in the season.
And again, do Marquette fans hating Wisconsin football mean Marquette students and alums have an inferiority complex to Wisconsin?
Quote from: wadesworld on October 05, 2013, 12:11:43 AM
And again, do Marquette fans hating Wisconsin football mean Marquette students and alums have an inferiority complex to Wisconsin?
Probably not. When I was a student - and I assume it's similar today - non-badger fans usually had their own college football team to follow or didn't care at all. Usually those teams were hometown related, family related, or just plain liked them.
Quote from: Bricky on October 05, 2013, 12:37:38 AM
Probably not. When I was a student - and I assume it's similar today - non-badger fans usually had their own college football team to follow or didn't care at all. Usually those teams were hometown related, family related, or just plain liked them.
Exactly. Which is the same case as the "Blackhawks hate" with Milwaukeeans. 95% of Milwaukeeans could not care less about hockey and have no idea what is happening in the NHL. If it weren't for all my bandwagon Chicago friends who are now the world's biggest Blackhawks fans because they're coming off of a Stanley a up Championship and won't attend a game unless it's Playoff time, I would have NO clue hockey had started. I would've guessed it would've started at least a month later. And I am MUCH more into sports as a whole than 99% of Milwaukeeans.
Of the 5% that do follow hockey at all, I would bet 4% of the 5% are Blackhawks fans, 0.75% of the 5% are fans of another team for 1 reason or another, and 0.25% hate the Blackhawks just to get a rise out of their Chicago friends.
Just because you have 1 friend who posts on FB how much he hates the Blackhawks or says "F*uck the Blackhawks" when discussing the NHL doesn't mean that families are breeding their children to hate the Blackhawks because there's an inferiority complex. The VAST majority of Milwaukeeans don't give a damn about the NHL. Chicagoans just think they know how Milwaukeeans feel and want to tell them they are better than them so Milwaukeeans have an inferiority complex and so they work up anything they can to "prove" it.
Way, way, way overrated. There really is no Blackhawks hate.
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on October 04, 2013, 06:47:25 PM
Easy if you're a Heat or Wade fan, knowing the Bulls will probably be their main contender.
Let's get this back on track...
The Bulls may be good, but they aren't contending for anything.
Quote from: PTM on October 05, 2013, 09:21:58 AM
Let's get this back on track...
The Bulls may be good, but they aren't contending for anything.
Is Rose gonna play this year? Does he still have a leg? Are his muscles all evened out now? Will Kobe play before Rose does?
If Rose's muscle memory is back enough for him to play they might be the 2nd best team in the Eastern Conference. There has been a roll reversal with the Eastern Conference suddenly becoming the much better conference.
Heat, Bulls, Pacers, Nets, Knicks will all be good. Cavs and 76ers should be improved. Bucks might be a better team this year but finish lower in the standings because the East has improved.
In the West it's the Spurs and Thunder and then everyone else. I think those are the only 2 that would be in the top 5 in the Eastern Conference. Not a believer in the Clip or Rockets. Grizz are my 3rd favorite out of the West. Nuggets and Warriors should be Playoff teams.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2013, 02:20:54 PM
You guys call people from Illinois "fibs". Illinois people don't have a name for Wisconsinites.
Cheeseheads anyone? ;D
Quote from: wadesworld on October 05, 2013, 12:11:43 AM
Milwaukee and Chicago are very similar in their attitudes towards hockey...nobody cares and nobody knows what's going on in the season.
And again, do Marquette fans hating Wisconsin football mean Marquette students and alums have an inferiority complex to Wisconsin?
Comcast Chicago Sportsnet Ratings would show you are very very wrong about Chicago fans not knowing or caring about the regular season.
There are tons of Marquette fans with inferiority complexes. Especially when we lose recruits to Duke or North Carolina.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 05, 2013, 10:35:29 AM
Comcast Chicago Sportsnet Ratings would show you are very very wrong about Chicago fans not knowing or caring about the regular season.
There are tons of Marquette fans with inferiority complexes. Especially when we lose recruits to Duke or North Carolina.
So inferiority complexes change from week to week? OK.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 05, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
Is Rose gonna play this year? Does he still have a leg? Are his muscles all evened out now? Will Kobe play before Rose does?
If Rose's muscle memory is back enough for him to play they might be the 2nd best team in the Eastern Conference. There has been a roll reversal with the Eastern Conference suddenly becoming the much better conference.
Heat, Bulls, Pacers, Nets, Knicks will all be good. Cavs and 76ers should be improved. Bucks might be a better team this year but finish lower in the standings because the East has improved.
In the West it's the Spurs and Thunder and then everyone else. I think those are the only 2 that would be in the top 5 in the Eastern Conference. Not a believer in the Clip or Rockets. Grizz are my 3rd favorite out of the West. Nuggets and Warriors should be Playoff teams.
He's going to play, Reggie and Adidas finally gave the green light. Heaven forbid you listen to multiple doctors.
They'll be contending for the 2nd best team, and they might even have the best record again. However, they will not beat a Heat team at full-strength in a 7-game series.
Quote from: Red Stripe on October 05, 2013, 10:02:18 AM
Cheeseheads anyone? ;D
Except the Cheddars have embraced that one...as they have Butter Butt, Sconnie, Cow Tipper, the Good Land, Cow Pie, etc. and then they create multi-million dollar businesses selling all the crap. Apparently, "fat, drunk and stupid" is a way to go through life.
Anyone want to buy a FIB shot glass? No...but the Cow Pie candy is pretty damn good.
Quote from: PTM on October 05, 2013, 10:57:31 AM
He's going to play, Reggie and Adidas finally gave the green light. Heaven forbid you listen to multiple doctors.
They'll be contending for the 2nd best team, and they might even have the best record again. However, they will not beat a Heat team at full-strength in a 7-game series.
Ehh. He was cleared to play by doctors in the beginning of March. The Bulls played through the middle of May. He could've played the end of the regular season to "get his muscle memory back" and then be ready for the Heat in the 2nd round. Kobe would've been out there. I hate Kobe, but there's no doubt he would've played, even if he wasn't nearly 100% healthy. But, he's old school and plays through that stuff. Nowadays people are more worried about their paychecks and stats than they are the opportunity to play for a Championship.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 05, 2013, 11:12:24 AM
Ehh. He was cleared to play by doctors in the beginning of March. The Bulls played through the middle of May. He could've played the end of the regular season to "get his muscle memory back" and then be ready for the Heat in the 2nd round. Kobe would've been out there. I hate Kobe, but there's no doubt he would've played, even if he wasn't nearly 100% healthy. But, he's old school and plays through that stuff. Nowadays people are more worried about their paychecks and stats than they are the opportunity to play for a Championship.
Playing was part of his rehab plan, and he kept pushing it off.
Quote from: PTM on October 05, 2013, 10:57:31 AM
He's going to play, Reggie and Adidas finally gave the green light. Heaven forbid you listen to multiple doctors.
They'll be contending for the 2nd best team, and they might even have the best record again. However, they will not beat a Heat team at full-strength in a 7-game series.
The Pacers may even be too much for them to handle.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 05, 2013, 11:54:22 AM
The Pacers may even be too much for them to handle.
Correct.
So, anyways, the love for JFB from Tibs, his teammates and the local and national (Grantland fell for him at the end of last season) sure has been enjoyable. Word is that he again has markedly upped his game. Looking forward to another leap forward from JFB.
Quote from: Badgerhater on October 04, 2013, 12:48:25 PM
I root for the following NBA teams (in no particular order)
Miami Wades
Chicago Butlers
Portland Matthewses
Dallas Crowders
Toronto Buycks-Novaks
Sacramento Locketts
Hopefully get to add:
Philadelphia Blues
New Orleans Haywards
Los Angeles Johnson-Odoms
Agree. I'm also a fan of the Los Angeles Docs. Hopefully all three potentials make it so there's an MU presence in 1/3 of the league (crazy!).