A new name?
Quote from: blikemike2 on October 03, 2013, 09:20:35 PM
A new name?
Well he's got a killer smile from his recruiting pic and is very very tall.
Barberton, OH native who goes to the Kiski School, a 200 student all boys prep school located east of Pittsburgh. Not a fly by night school as it's been around since the 1880's and they say 100% of the students go on to 4 years schools.
Pierce is ranked 200th nationally by 247sports.
Well, he certainly is big. 7'0 260lbs. I guess we had an in-home with his parents today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ejGEp4U-R0#t=33
Big, strong kid that seems to have tools but is willing to defer. Shot blocker with some post moves. Might be a bit of a project, but the kind with legitimate upside. Likely a solid developing 4-year guy.
Jeezus he shoots the ball low for a 7 footer.
Quote from: blikemike2 on October 03, 2013, 09:20:35 PM
A new name?
Nah. Goes back to the early spring at least when MU started to be mentioned with him.
Wait, so everyone is freaking about not getting size, even if it is a project. Then Buzz has a home visit with a 3 star, 7 footer and it gets 5 replies?
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Satchel-Pierce-142746
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=6668162
Quote from: esotericmindguy on October 04, 2013, 08:49:07 AM
Wait, so everyone is freaking about not getting size, even if it is a project. Then Buzz has a home visit with a 3 star, 7 footer and it gets 5 replies?
He's not a "stud big" so it doesn't count.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 03, 2013, 11:11:11 PM
Jeezus he shoots the ball low for a 7 footer.
Satchel needs an eephus shot?
Quote from: MUfan12 on October 04, 2013, 09:04:55 AM
Satchel needs an eephus shot?
LOL! I was thinking Satchel Paige also.
I would love if MU could get a guy like this every year, or every other year.
In theory, guys like this could be role players for a couple of years and develop into solid starters as upperclassmen.
I would love Diamond Stone, but I'm not against getting some lower ranked big men and developing them a little slower.
I'm sure Buzz has thought of this strategy, so I'll defer to him on how he builds his roster. :-)
O'tule was and still might be a project, for sure on the offensive end. You need to develop a bigman, on a 13 man roster, you might as well take a chance. Need some height in the
future. Whatever happened with Johnathon Wilkens, same prep school as Longwood who is going to Auburn.
If Buzz wants him, I want him. We can always use another big man on the roster, even if he will take some time to develop.
Quote from: BCHoopster on October 04, 2013, 09:47:44 AM
O'tule was and still might be a project, for sure on the offensive end. You need to develop a bigman, on a 13 man roster, you might as well take a chance. Need some height in the
future. Whatever happened with Johnathon Wilkens, same prep school as Longwood who is going to Auburn.
Wilkins reclassified to 2015.
Where is Willie Warrior - - In my view getting Pierce would be a great get - you can't coach 7'0", 260lbs. That is a large man. Seeing how Otule and Gardner have progressed at MU - can't help but think Satchel would develop into a serviceable big at minimum, if not very solid starter by the time he's a junior. The minutes will be there for the taking. Reel him in Buzz!
Quote from: Ners on October 04, 2013, 10:10:30 AM
Where is Willie Warrior - - In my view getting Pierce would be a great get - you can't coach 7'0", 260lbs. That is a large man. Seeing how Otule and Gardner have progressed at MU - can't help but think Satchel would develop into a serviceable big at minimum, if not very solid starter by the time he's a junior. The minutes will be there for the taking. Reel him in Buzz!
Plus, Todd smith could work with him and increase his athleticism and vertical leap.
I'm down with this cat if he really is 7 ft. Looks shorter than that. Ya need some bros to rebound and change the direction of some shots. Not everyone can be a switchable, hey?
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on October 04, 2013, 09:26:49 AM
I would love if MU could get a guy like this every year, or every other year.
Agreed, we need to get guys like Pierce in the system and give them a chance to develop, similar to Otule.
Jonathon Wilkins enrolled at NMST and is awaiting Clearing house right now. He is going to redshirt I believe. he decided last minute.
Quote from: kmwtrucks on October 04, 2013, 10:47:33 AM
Jonathon Wilkins enrolled at NMST and is awaiting Clearing house right now. He is going to redshirt I believe. he decided last minute.
Wow. Thanks for the update. So he was originally 2014...reclassified to 2015 and likely headed to prep school...but then goes all the way back to 2013 and verbals to New Mexico State and will redshirt?
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 04, 2013, 10:50:38 AM
Wow. Thanks for the update. So he was originally 2014...reclassified to 2015 and likely headed to prep school...but then goes all the way back to 2013 and verbals to New Mexico State and will redshirt?
There's something wrong with the system when a potential student-athlete can spend between 4-6 years in high school before becoming a college freshman.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on October 04, 2013, 10:54:24 AM
There's something wrong with the system when a potential student-athlete can spend between 4-6 years in high school before becoming a college freshman.
My guess is that he was originally a 2014...decided to do a year of prep school....but then for whatever reason decided to graduate early and took the NMSU offer. (What those reason might have been can be the source of all kinds of speculation.)
Have we actually offered him? Or is he just a possible target?
Hometown of Alvin Robertson IIRC. Hopefully turns out to be a little human being than Robertson. Shouldn't be too difficult.
Quote from: Ners on October 04, 2013, 10:10:30 AM
Where is Willie Warrior - - In my view getting Pierce would be a great get - you can't coach 7'0", 260lbs. That is a large man. Seeing how Otule and Gardner have progressed at MU - can't help but think Satchel would develop into a serviceable big at minimum, if not very solid starter by the time he's a junior. The minutes will be there for the taking. Reel him in Buzz!
I wish I had your confidence. There are more Mbao's out there then Otule's unfortunately. With the dearth of 7 footers out there, I'd expect that 60 schools would be involved if he projected well.
If Buzz wants him, hooray. But, he may develop, he may not, I would be a crap shoot that only Buzz can decide to take or not.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 04, 2013, 12:13:10 PM
I wish I had your confidence. There are more Mbao's out there then Otule's unfortunately. With the dearth of 7 footers out there, I'd expect that 60 schools would be involved if he projected well.
If Buzz wants him, hooray. But, he may develop, he may not, I would be a crap shoot that only Buzz can decide to take or not.
I agree with you, but I think that's why you have to bring in a project most years. Some guys are going to develop more or less than other guys.
If you have 3 project bigs on the roster at all times (in various stages of development), you should be able to find 40 productive minutes.
Ideally, Chris would be a senior, Davante would be a Jr, and there would be a frosh. center on the roster.
BUT, like I said before, Buzz knows far more about roster management than I ever could... so I'm sure he already knows all of this.
Someone needs to measure this dude. Is he 7' barefoot? Basketball shoes? High heels? When was his last haircut? Before any talk of signing, we must positively confirm whether or not he is a "BIG". No more room for switchables.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 04, 2013, 12:13:10 PM
I wish I had your confidence. There are more Mbao's out there then Otule's unfortunately. With the dearth of 7 footers out there, I'd expect that 60 schools would be involved if he projected well.
If Buzz wants him, hooray. But, he may develop, he may not, I would be a crap shoot that only Buzz can decide to take or not.
Perhaps, yet Mbao had PROJECT written all over him - in that he was wiry thin, and had very little basketball playing experience in his life coming from Senegal (I believe.) With as talented of wings and PG's as Buzz gets - we don't need a star at center (although it sure would be nice), even a guy like Dwight Burke would be enough to compete for Final Fours...just need big body with some mobility, screen setting ability, and if some offensive skills too - just a bonus.
I agree, ners. With the talent at the other 4 positions that MU will have for the foreseeable future, a big who can defend other bigs, rebound, catch a dump off pass to lay-in/dunk, get offensive rebounds & putbacks out to be sufficient. Admittedly, a 5 star would be awesome. But an Ousmane Barro with better hands would be enough.
Quote from: leever on October 04, 2013, 01:39:20 PM
Someone needs to measure this dude. Is he 7' barefoot? Basketball shoes? High heels? When was his last haircut? Before any talk of signing, we must positively confirm whether or not he is a "BIG". No more room for switchables.
It does say he is 260lb that is on the larger size.
Quote from: nyg on October 04, 2013, 08:52:20 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Satchel-Pierce-142746
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=6668162
According to both these links, he's 6-9. The 7' must be with high heels.
Quote from: Ners on October 04, 2013, 02:35:32 PM
Perhaps, yet Mbao had PROJECT written all over him - in that he was wiry thin, and had very little basketball playing experience in his life coming from Senegal (I believe.) With as talented of wings and PG's as Buzz gets - we don't need a star at center (although it sure would be nice), even a guy like Dwight Burke would be enough to compete for Final Fours...just need big body with some mobility, screen setting ability, and if some offensive skills too - just a bonus.
I like Dwight Burke as much as the next guy, but a Final 4 team probably needs a little more production on the offensive and defensive end.
But, your point is correct. Experienced, role-player bigs, can be a good option for a successful team.
Ousmane-type production would be good enough (provided this fictional player can play defense)
Quote from: Wally Schroeder on October 04, 2013, 03:04:11 PM
According to both these links, he's 6-9. The 7' must be with high heels.
He was 6'9", now he's 7'0".
Try these links:
http://247sports.com/Player/Satchel-Pierce-31850
http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Basketball/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=C
You will notice he is ranked one spot below Ben Lammers and 5 spots below Jabari Craig.
Any chance he comes to madness? If so compare him to Otule and you get an idea of his actual size. Either way he sounds like a sleeper maybe the biggest sleeper since rip van winkle. :D
Quote from: Ners on October 04, 2013, 10:10:30 AM
Where is Willie Warrior - - In my view getting Pierce would be a great get - you can't coach 7'0", 260lbs. That is a large man. Seeing how Otule and Gardner have progressed at MU - can't help but think Satchel would develop into a serviceable big at minimum, if not very solid starter by the time he's a junior. The minutes will be there for the taking. Reel him in Buzz!
Yeah, I am right here. We do need another 6 year project to develop. And since "the minutes are there for the taking", we might as well let him take them. Not getting a woody yet though.
Quote from: raul on October 04, 2013, 11:12:48 PM
Any chance he comes to madness? If so compare him to Otule and you get an idea of his actual size. Either way he sounds like a sleeper maybe the biggest sleeper since rip van winkle. :D
The biggest sleeper since Rip Van Winkle was Roman Muller--per no less an authority than the late great coach and world class eater Rick Majerus. RIP.
The height debate reminds me of Jae's height. Wasn't he listed as 6'7" but really checked out as 6'4-6'5?
Quote from: tower912 on October 04, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
I agree, ners. With the talent at the other 4 positions that MU will have for the foreseeable future, a big who can defend other bigs, rebound, catch a dump off pass to lay-in/dunk, get offensive rebounds & putbacks out to be sufficient. Admittedly, a 5 star would be awesome. But an Ousmane Barro with better hands would be enough.
A big with good hands (like OX) is all we need. What was Devante ranked?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 05, 2013, 11:53:19 AM
A big with good hands (like OX) is all we need. What was Devante ranked?
I think Buzz said at one time Davante was ranked in the mid 200s. Inrember 261 or something like that. Don't know if that was true.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on October 05, 2013, 11:53:19 AM
A big with good hands (like OX) is all we need. What was Devante ranked?
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Davante-Gardner-84594
He's better than Otoule was at the same stage of development... so that's a plus... but just looking at him under the basket there's no way he's a 7 footer. I'd say 6'10 in shoes, 8 weeks after a haircut. BUT, that still qualifies as a big.
He seems to carry 260 reasonably well - if the 260 is true.
Quote from: nyg on October 05, 2013, 03:18:04 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Davante-Gardner-84594
Listed at 6'7" and only a 3*. UNACCEPTABLE to willie. No chance that guy pans out.
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 32m
Per source, Marquette's Buzz Williams and an assistant will be in Tuesday to see 2014 Kiski School (PA) center Satchel Pierce
Quote from: PTM on October 06, 2013, 12:39:36 PM
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 32m
Per source, Marquette's Buzz Williams and an assistant will be in Tuesday to see 2014 Kiski School (PA) center Satchel Pierce
10/9/2013 - 2014 C Satchel Pierce (7-0, 260, 2.7★) has received an offer from Marquette. - Per Corey Evans
Quote from: Jajuannaman on October 06, 2013, 11:20:06 AM
Listed at 6'7" and only a 3*. UNACCEPTABLE to willie. No chance that guy pans out.
Outstanding shooting though (as per site), I wonder if he will ever develop enough to be any good.
Quote from: tower912 on October 04, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
I agree, ners. With the talent at the other 4 positions that MU will have for the foreseeable future, a big who can defend other bigs, rebound, catch a dump off pass to lay-in/dunk, get offensive rebounds & putbacks out to be sufficient. Admittedly, a 5 star would be awesome. But an Ousmane Barro with better hands would be enough.
Sounds like a description of Fab Melo - oops, now you're talking 5-star again ;)
I like Satchel.
Everyone comments when MU plays cupcakes that if Buzz could get a big as talented as their big the team would be better. And didn't Buzz recruit him.
Satchel may be that guy.
Jamie Dixon is getting involved now too. Hope he commits.
I like the idea of Satchel quite a bit too.
Diamond's gonna need someone to bang with in practice.
Pierce or Miller?
Quote from: The Lens on October 09, 2013, 12:29:27 PM
Diamond's gonna need someone to bang with in practice.
Nah, we got Halloween parties for that.
I don't know why everybody is so "Oh he's not rated high enough." Didn't he go to a top 100 as a sophomore?
http://triblive.com/sports/hssports/highschoolrecruiting/4856623-74/pierce-pitt-gorman#axzz2hZLuosfR
Jamie and Buzz paid a visit
Like Todd two years ago, he'll already by 19 when he gets on whatever campus he attends and turn 20 during the season. The extra year should make him a bit more prepared for action than the typical freshman, which is good since we'll need a center.
I was struggling with why Buzz and staff seemed to cool on Lammers, but pursue the guy ranked just after him. Well I think this part of the article sums up why Satchel's an OKG (and of course, rankings alone don't drive recruiting):
"Every time I'd teach him a move, within five minutes he'd get it. Then you'd see him that night, using it in a game," Freedman said. "The kid's got a lot of work to do still — he's not a finished product — but he will be ready to play next year."
The turning point, however, came when Pierce was invited to the NBA Players Association Top 100 camp this past June.
Pierce performed well, but was told he had commitment issues when it came to his conditioning.
Since then, Pierce has been awaking at 5:30 a.m. for three-a-day workouts. He lifts weights, does team conditioning and plays pick-up games after school.
"It made me realize the amount of work that I needed to put in if I wanted to get better and be the best I can be," Pierce said. "I had to put more dedication to it."
sounds like Pitt has the inside track on him. Sure would like to see him wearing MU blue and gold.
Tweet from Corey Evans:
"Marquette had an in-home visit with 2014 Kiski center Satchel Pierce today. Pierce will take an official visit to Pitt this weekend."
"They develop their bigs really well"
There is the pitch vs. Marquette every day of the week. Otule and Gardner have developed nicely, some ammo for Buzz to combat that now. People can whine as much as they want that Buzz doesn't recruit bigs, but until they develop a couple of under the radar types (otule & gardner) they'll get hammered with this message. "Its a guard and wing team, they don't send bigs to the next level."
Satchel is at Pitt for an official this weekend.
His prep school is 45 minutes away from Pitt, so hopefully he understands what a shithole it is.
Quote from: PTM on October 19, 2013, 11:38:04 AM
Satchel is at Pitt for an official this weekend.
His prep school is 45 minutes away from Pitt, so hopefully he understands what a craphole it is.
Seriously, Pittsburgh might be my least favorite top 50 population city in the country.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on October 19, 2013, 11:51:55 AM
Seriously, Pittsburgh might be my least favorite top 50 population city in the country.
Too bad Dayton isn't in this discussion.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on October 19, 2013, 11:51:55 AM
Seriously, Pittsburgh might be my least favorite top 50 population city in the country.
Really? I love the city. It has improved a ton over the last 30 years. Fun vibe, scenic on the rivers, etc.
Pittsburgh's a fine city. I'd rank it higher than Milwaukee.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 19, 2013, 12:05:38 PM
Really? I love the city. It has improved a ton over the last 30 years. Fun vibe, scenic on the rivers, etc.
I have to agree with Chicos. DT Pittsburgh is really scenic where the rivers meet and everything is very walkable including the half dozen bridges. The rivers and bridges all have wide walk paths/trails on the sides of them. Enjoyed walking over a bridge past the baseball stadium to the Andy Warhol Museum. The incline (I want to call it fumacalore after the Italy ones I rode) to the cliff top is unique.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on October 19, 2013, 11:51:55 AM
Seriously, Pittsburgh might be my least favorite top 50 population city in the country.
I went there with some friends for the Marquette game last season. I thought it was a great city. Good food and great night life. Only city that can really challenge Milwaukee's bar scene in my opinion
Pittsburgh is an awesome city. It's the city that Milwaukee should aspire to be
Both Milwaukee and Pittsburgh are very nice cities. No need to disparage either one.
Quote from: Boone on October 19, 2013, 01:31:23 PM
Pittsburgh's a fine city. I'd rank it higher than Milwaukee.
I agree, except for the sentimental value I have for Milwaukee. Pittsburgh is an underated city in my opinion based on my travels around the country.
If starting as a freshman is important to Satchel, we got him.
No, I'm not saying that that would be guaranteed, just that now the center position is wide open for fall 2014.
No, I'm not saying that Steve Taylor can't play center just that he'd be more effective at the 4, if MU had a legit center to put out there with him.
If he wants to develop by practicing against other similar sized guys on the other hand....
I wonder where Embiid was rated this time last year?
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 19, 2013, 03:49:58 PM
I wonder where Embiid was rated this time last year?
Embiid was just blowing up at this time. ESPN still had him outside the top-100, but Telep had identified him as a top-20 recruit just under a year ago.
http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=8627432&src=desktop
One difference, though. Embiid was far more an unknown, having spent most of his life overseas. While there are late bloomers, most guys that shoot up into those top rankings do so during their last AAU summer. I have high hopes for Pierce if we can get him in, but while a strong HS campaign could boost him into the top-100, I'd be shocked if anyone had him in the top-50 or higher.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 19, 2013, 02:44:07 PM
I went there with some friends for the Marquette game last season. I thought it was a great city. Good food and great night life. Only city that can really challenge Milwaukee's bar scene in my opinion
It could come down to Real Chili vs. Primanti Bros.
Satchel Pierce is the #1 priority for Buzz and staff #mubb MT @coreyevans_10 No one has put more time in the past month on Pierce than (MU - See more at: http://verbalcommits.com/players/satchel-pierce#sthash.WaHdWBtO.dpuf
Like seeing things like this. I know Ahmed Hill appreciated this kind of attention. Hopefully Pierce feels the same way
Great news. I think he would be a great fit at MU and get ample playing time from the start. Good size, smart player and quick learner. Imagine pierce and Stone together :)
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 19, 2013, 11:42:18 PM
Great news. I think he would be a great fit at MU and get ample playing time from the start. Good size, smart player and quick learner. Imagine pierce and Stone together :)
Latest tweet:
Satchel Pierce Just got back to kiski, had a great visit at Pitt! #decisions
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 19, 2013, 03:49:58 PM
If starting as a freshman is important to Satchel, we got him.
No, I'm not saying that that would be guaranteed, just that now the center position is wide open for fall 2014.
No, I'm not saying that Steve Taylor can't play center just that he'd be more effective at the 4, if MU had a legit center to put out there with him.
If he wants to develop by practicing against other similar sized guys on the other hand....
I wonder where Embiid was rated this time last year?
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 19, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
Embiid was just blowing up at this time. ESPN still had him outside the top-100, but Telep had identified him as a top-20 recruit just under a year ago.
http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=8627432&src=desktop
One difference, though. Embiid was far more an unknown, having spent most of his life overseas. While there are late bloomers, most guys that shoot up into those top rankings do so during their last AAU summer. I have high hopes for Pierce if we can get him in, but while a strong HS campaign could boost him into the top-100, I'd be shocked if anyone had him in the top-50 or higher.
So, you took me simply asking where Embiid was rated in October, 2012 as me implying that Satchel Pierce was going to be another Embiid? Interesting. It doesn't take long on an internet message board to realize just how important facial expressions and vocal variations are to conveying meaning.
Quote from: classic chick on October 20, 2013, 02:47:53 PM
Latest tweet:
Satchel Pierce Just got back to kiski, had a great visit at Pitt! #decisions
Alright, Pitt visit over with no commitment!
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 20, 2013, 04:11:50 PM
So, you took me simply asking where Embiid was rated in October, 2012 as me implying that Satchel Pierce was going to be another Embiid? Interesting. It doesn't take long on an internet message board to realize just how important facial expressions and vocal variations are to conveying meaning.
I took it as "could be" rather than "would be", but definitely true. Somewhat off thread-topic, but I read an article about how poor today's youth are at interpreting expressions, likely because so much of their communication is in text form. These boards do a good job of bringing people together from miles apart, but I agree completely that it's still a limited form.
Regardless, step 1 was Pierce not committing on or immediately after the visit. Step 2 is scheduling a visit. I like our odds much better if that news (and not a commitment) comes out in the next week.
Quote from: classic chick on October 20, 2013, 02:47:53 PM
Latest tweet:
Satchel Pierce Just got back to kiski, had a great visit at Pitt! #decisions
When does he visit MU again?
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 20, 2013, 04:16:42 PM
Alright, Pitt visit over with no commitment!
After a couple days re-thinking why we can't land a center, and having a few beers watching the NFL, I've decided to achieve serenity now by concluding no one wants to play second fiddle to Diamond after a year.
Please let me have that until at least tomorrow.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 20, 2013, 05:25:37 PM
When does he visit MU again?
No visit scheduled yet that I am aware of.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on October 19, 2013, 09:13:34 PM
It could come down to Real Chili vs. Primanti Bros.
I certainly hope not.
(And I love Real Chili)
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 20, 2013, 05:25:37 PM
When does he visit MU again?
Sounds like within the next 2 weeks. He's going to Miami and Marquette the next two weekends. So either Haunted Hoops or the week after. Seems like it will probably come down to Pitt, Miami, and MU.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 22, 2013, 06:35:43 AM
Seems like it will probably come down to Pitt, Miami, and MU.
Three schools I don't mind going toe to toe with.
Tough to go against MU, a'ina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 22, 2013, 09:13:01 AM
Tough to go against MU, a'ina?
Yeah, they match up really well with us. Their coach is a junkyard dog and they're offering immediate playing time.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 22, 2013, 09:13:01 AM
Tough to go against MU, a'ina?
I think by "I" he was referring to Texas A&M
Quote from: ElDonBDon on October 22, 2013, 11:46:37 AM
I think by "I" he was referring to Texas A&M
More likely he thought I was referring to Mizzou, since TAMU only works at A&M but is a Marquette guy through and through. Seeing as it seems like EVERY recruit we are in on is also being recruited by Miami and Missouri, it would make sense ;D
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 22, 2013, 12:10:26 PM
More likely he thought I was referring to Mizzou, since TAMU only works at A&M but is a Marquette guy through and through. Seeing as it seems like EVERY recruit we are in on is also being recruited by Miami and Missouri, it would make sense ;D
Gotcha. Well, we got the domain name. Plus, Haith just got suspended
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9862272/missouri-tigers-coach-frank-haith-suspended-five-games-ncaa
So that should help any recruiting battles against the lesser MU
Quote from: ElDonBDon on October 22, 2013, 11:46:37 AM
I think by "I" he was referring to Texas A&M
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 22, 2013, 12:10:26 PM
More likely he thought I was referring to Mizzou, since TAMU only works at A&M but is a Marquette guy through and through. Seeing as it seems like EVERY recruit we are in on is also being recruited by Miami and Missouri, it would make sense ;D
I think that TAMU just had a brain fart, and forgot that one of the "three" schools referred to was actually Marquette.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 22, 2013, 12:29:35 PM
I think that TAMU just had a brain fart, and forgot that one of the "three" schools referred to was actually Marquette.
This would be the correct one, lol
Quote from: ElDonBDon on October 22, 2013, 12:14:16 PM
Gotcha. Well, we got the domain name. Plus, Haith just got suspended
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9862272/missouri-tigers-coach-frank-haith-suspended-five-games-ncaa
So that should help any recruiting battles against the lesser MU
Hmm... Frank Haith might do a double favor for Marquette here.
I wonder if the loss of scholarships will change Miami's recruiting of young Mr. Pierce. Or change his perception of them.
Quote from: tower912 on October 22, 2013, 02:32:52 PM
I wonder if the loss of scholarships will change Miami's recruiting of young Mr. Pierce. Or change his perception of them.
+1, just said that in the other thread.
Even if Miami still has a scholarship for him, they are going to be hurt by this and it may effect recruit's perception of the team.
Addition: Assuming the lost scholarships start for the 2014 class, and that no one expected leaves, Miami only has one scholarship left to give. And with Omar Sherman already wrapped up at Center, I assume they will want to spend it elsewhere. Possibly Dante Buford, 4 star switchable out of Jacksonville
Also, per Corey Evans' twitter:
QuotePer his father, Marquette head coach Buzz Williams will have an in-home visit with '14 Kiski center Satchel Pierce tomorrow with his parents - See more at: http://verbalcommits.com/players/satchel-pierce#sthash.kTgDihSU.dpuf
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 22, 2013, 02:47:22 PM
Even if Miami still has a scholarship for him, they are going to be hurt by this and it may effect recruit's perception of the team.
reduced cash flow to the players?
For what it is worth, Pierce's crystal ball has 3 votes for Pitt and 2 for Marquette. The most recent is for Marquette. Corey Evans has MU while Jerry Meyer has Pitt (two most reliable IMO)
http://247sports.com/Player/Satchel-Pierce-31850/PlayerInstitutionPredictions
Today:
@coreyevans_10 Hi Corey, you still sticking with Marquette on Pierce?? Did he give any hints or indications about the in-home?
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 53m
@Blikemike2 I am. Marquette has definitely made him a priority more than anyone else. Heard both visits went very well.
C'mon Satchel-Come to Marquette!!!
Jerry Meyer from 247sports just flipped the prediction from Pitt to Marquette.
The guy had a great track record.
This is good.
Wow-- great news. Thx for the update.
Only 7', 250? Why don't we recruit some bigs for goodness sake?
Hell yeah! Satchel_toMU14 would be huge, literally.
Yeah, I am feeling good about this one.
Make sure the hot girl is around the Al when he comes to campus.
Quote from: chapman on October 24, 2013, 08:49:04 PM
Make sure the hot girl is around the Al when he comes to campus.
Pay 1 to come in from outside of MU you mean?
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 24, 2013, 08:34:39 PM
Hell yeah! Satchel_toMU14 would be huge, literally.
hah, nice.
Things are looking up. I'd really like to see this happen.
There's no better team, with more of an opportunity for a big man on the planet.
Come on down, Mr. Pierce.
We'd love to have you at Marquette, Mr. Pierce! Your table is ready!
Corey Evans and Jerry Meyer say MU now? I like the sound of that. But still a long way to go.
Derek Piper also updated his prediction from Pitt to MU last night. That's 4 MU to 1 Pitt almost a week after Pierece's visit to Pitt. Feeling good about this one.
http://247sports.com/Player/Satchel-Pierce-31850/PlayerInstitutionPredictions
Quote from: chapman on October 24, 2013, 08:49:04 PM
Make sure the hot girl is around the Al when he comes to campus.
I laughed out loud at this until I realized that, in my day, this was a true statement.
Well played, sir.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 24, 2013, 08:07:12 PM
Only 7', 250? Why don't we recruit some bigs for goodness sake?
Because Buzz only recruits switchables!!!!
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 24, 2013, 08:34:39 PM
Hell yeah! Satchel_toMU14 would be huge, literally.
How do I say this, ummm.... your signature photo....
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 25, 2013, 11:24:04 AM
How do I say this, ummm.... your signature photo....
Thanks man. Fixed.
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on October 25, 2013, 11:59:16 AM
So, so well done.
Is it that guy or this guy? (Doesn't look like the same guy.)
(http://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000047464947/49ffa60820d919e916112b82aed46dd1_normal.jpeg)
Would be a big pickup. I never quite understood why he wouldn't want to be at Marquette. I know Pitt is a great option, but he'll have no one to compete with for minutes at the 5. And you have 6-7 other top 100 commitments as underclassmen.
Quote from: Wally Schroeder on October 25, 2013, 09:05:27 AM
Derek Piper also updated his prediction from Pitt to MU last night. That's 4 MU to 1 Pitt almost a week after Pierece's visit to Pitt. Feeling good about this one.
http://247sports.com/Player/Satchel-Pierce-31850/PlayerInstitutionPredictions
Not to mention the only guy still saying Pitt is from some Purdue guy.
Life rule #20 - When it comes to college basketball, always believe the opposite of what the Purdue fan says.
Quote from: Benny B on October 25, 2013, 02:08:17 PM
Not to mention the only guy still saying Pitt is from some Purdue guy.
Life rule #20 - When it comes to college basketball, always believe the opposite of what the Purdue fan says.
Somewhere (Chico's backyard?) a very angry Hoopaloop lurks.
Any idea on a timeline for a decision?
Quote from: Captain Awesome on October 26, 2013, 09:39:43 AM
Any idea on a timeline for a decision?
He's on an official visit to Miami this weekend. A visit to Milwaukee may happen next weekend, so there's a slight timeline.
Buzz knocks his socks off and he commits on November 3rd or 4th.
Quote from: PTM on October 26, 2013, 09:43:51 AM
He's on an official visit to Miami this weekend. A visit to Milwaukee may happen next weekend, so there's a slight timeline.
Buzz knocks his socks off and he commits on November 3rd or 4th.
Man I hope Marquette lands Satchel. He'd be perfect. Also great to know Jerry Meyer flipped to MU.
Maurice Lucas and Ulice Payne were Dapper Dan All-Stars but the last big man we recruited out of western PA was Lloyd Moore...
Joe Nethen was a big man from Pittsburg.
Definitely looks like a project - but could be a space eater inside with the big body.
Any idea when Satchel is planning on making a decision? How many officials does he have left?
Seems like he will just visit Marquette after Miami and I'm guessing he will decide not too long after. Nothing set in stone for dates though.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 26, 2013, 07:52:55 PM
Any idea when Satchel is planning on making a decision? How many officials does he have left?
Quote from: PTM on October 26, 2013, 09:43:51 AM
He's on an official visit to Miami this weekend. A visit to Milwaukee may happen next weekend, so there's a slight timeline.
Buzz knocks his socks off and he commits on November 3rd or 4th.
When does the signing period end? Or are we just hoping for a verbal?
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 26, 2013, 08:57:11 PM
When does the signing period end? Or are we just hoping for a verbal?
I believe the signing period starts and ends sometime in November but I could be wrong. I believe I read somewhere that Pierce wants to sign in the early signing period so I'm assuming he'll make a decision soon after the visits.
Quote from: tower912 on October 26, 2013, 06:30:34 PM
Joe Nethen was a big man from Pittsburg.
Who??? Please.
Quote from: keefe on October 26, 2013, 04:08:12 PM
Maurice Lucas and Ulice Payne were Dapper Dan All-Stars but the last big man we recruited out of western PA was Lloyd Moore...
Marc Marotta and Mike McGonigle were from western PA.
Hank had a PA thing.
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 26, 2013, 09:51:01 PM
Marc Marotta and Mike McGonigle were from western PA.
Hank had a PA thing.
Was Marotta a top 100 player? I say yes. I think that BamaMarquette is not sure that that is right.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 26, 2013, 11:07:50 PM
Was Marotta a top 100 player? I say yes. I think that BamaMarquette is not sure that that is right.
Neither Marotta nor Lazeretti were blue chips.
Marc is a perfect example of how one utilities a MU education. Harvard Law followed by a very successful career in both politics and law. On top of everything, he's a good guy.
You mean Satchel Paige don't you....? Well, he was a ....lol ;D
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on October 26, 2013, 09:42:34 PM
Who??? Please.
6'8 C-F recruited by Dukiet. From Pittsburgh. Check the scoop wiki. Fits the criteria. I'm not claiming he was a dominant big. But he did play center at MU.
Quote from: tower912 on October 27, 2013, 06:16:19 AM
6'8 C-F recruited by Dukiet. From Pittsburgh. Check the scoop wiki. Fits the criteria. I'm not claiming he was a dominant big. But he did play center at MU.
That was just my alter ego speaking...
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 26, 2013, 07:52:55 PM
Any idea when Satchel is planning on making a decision? How many officials does he have left?
Satchel made it out of Miami without a commit (left this morning) and plans to take one more visit. He'll be at Marquette next weekend. After that, I expect a quick decision, as he's stated he wants to sign in the early period.
Pulling this thread back in...
Any idea when Satchel is planning on making a decision? How many officials does he have left?
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 27, 2013, 02:11:50 AM
You mean Satchel Paige don't you....? Well, he was a ....lol ;D
Or Satchmo Armstrong
Quote from: PTM on October 27, 2013, 09:00:02 AM
Pulling this thread back in...
Any idea when Satchel is planning on making a decision? How many officials does he have left?
Was that meant as a Jeopardy style response to my post right before yours? ?-( ;D
Quote from: PTM on October 27, 2013, 09:00:02 AM
Pulling this thread back in...
Any idea when Satchel is planning on making a decision? How many officials does he have left?
My best friend, who is a PITT fanatic, said he would announce this Weds. So, who knows.
Quote from: nyg on October 27, 2013, 09:46:38 AM
My best friend, who is a PITT fanatic, said he would announce this Weds. So, who knows.
That makes no sense whatsoever. Have some fun with your friend when it doesn't come to pass.
Quote from: nyg on October 27, 2013, 09:46:38 AM
My best friend, who is a PITT fanatic, said he would announce this Weds. So, who knows.
Wouldn't be the first time someone committed to Marquette without taking a visit ;D
My gut feeling (which means nothing) is that he either picks Miami for weather or Marquette for playing time. Pitt is going to be a bottom feeder in the ACC and the only real advantage they have is that they are the closest to his home.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 27, 2013, 10:06:13 AM
That makes no sense whatsoever. Have some fun with your friend when it doesn't come to pass.
What is your unnatural carnal knowledge*n problem? Someone asked, I just said what A PITT fan said he had heard. What a douche....
Quote from: nyg on October 27, 2013, 11:36:07 AM
What is your unnatural carnal knowledge*n problem? Someone asked, I just said what A PITT fan said he had heard. What a douche....
I think he just meant that if it isn't true, give your friend- presumably a Pitt fan- a hard time. (But my first reaction was the same as yours - had to read it twice)
I agree. I think he meant "bust your friend's chops" when your friend is wrong.
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on October 27, 2013, 12:14:27 PM
I think he just meant that if it isn't true, give your friend- presumably a Pitt fan- a hard time. (But my first reaction was the same as yours - had to read it twice)
OK, I might see it now.
Murs, when you get this far down, if that was the case, my bad. I don't go off often.
Back on track, my friend heard it on the PITT board and stated he moved commitment date to Weds. and the feeling is a Miami lean now after his visit. Speculation only.
Quote from: nyg on October 27, 2013, 01:00:51 PM
OK, I might see it now.
Murs, when you get this far down, if that was the case, my bad. I don't go off often.
Back on track, my friend heard it on the PITT board and stated he moved commitment date to Weds. and the feeling is a Miami lean now after his visit. Speculation only.
As far as I can tell, your friend is getting bad information. On Friday, Pierce said it was between Pitt, Miami, and Marquette. He has already said that he is visiting Marquette this upcoming weekend (Nov. 1-2) and Buzz has visited him in Pittsburgh at least 3 times. A couple weeks ago, then just before and just after the Pitt visit (twice in 4-5 days). The last big man Buzz put this much effort into that I recall was Joel Embiid.
Pierce has stated he wants to sign in the early period. He'll likely get home from Marquette on November 3rd, and the early signing period is November 13th-20th. Looking at all the info out there, I think he'll probably announce during that 10 day stretch between the MU visit and the start of the early signing period. Don't be surprised to see Buzz make another trip or two to Pittsburgh in the next 2 weeks to see Pierce before the decision.
Personal opinion...Pierce is going to pick Marquette. Corey Evans called MU early in the process, and he's well tied in to the Pittsburgh recruiting scene. Buzz has put a lot of effort in, and while he did the same for Embiid, there's no Kansas in the recruiting process and none of the other...erm...complications that we saw a year ago. As soon as Pierce got out of Pitt without a commit, I had a good feeling, similar to the way it felt when Namon Wright picked Missouri, effectively squeezing out the spot Ahmed Hill seemed most likely to fill.
Of course, I also had a good feeling about Embiid...
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 27, 2013, 01:27:19 PM
As far as I can tell, your friend is getting bad information. On Friday, Pierce said it was between Pitt, Miami, and Marquette. He has already said that he is visiting Marquette this upcoming weekend (Nov. 1-2) and Buzz has visited him in Pittsburgh at least 3 times. A couple weeks ago, then just before and just after the Pitt visit (twice in 4-5 days). The last big man Buzz put this much effort into that I recall was Joel Embiid.
Pierce has stated he wants to sign in the early period. He'll likely get home from Marquette on November 3rd, and the early signing period is November 13th-20th. Looking at all the info out there, I think he'll probably announce during that 10 day stretch between the MU visit and the start of the early signing period. Don't be surprised to see Buzz make another trip or two to Pittsburgh in the next 2 weeks to see Pierce before the decision.
Personal opinion...Pierce is going to pick Marquette. Corey Evans called MU early in the process, and he's well tied in to the Pittsburgh recruiting scene. Buzz has put a lot of effort in, and while he did the same for Embiid, there's no Kansas in the recruiting process and none of the other...erm...complications that we saw a year ago. As soon as Pierce got out of Pitt without a commit, I had a good feeling, similar to the way it felt when Namon Wright picked Missouri, effectively squeezing out the spot Ahmed Hill seemed most likely to fill.
Of course, I also had a good feeling about Embiid...
It's good to know Buzz is working so hard to get these guys. Of course he wants to keep bringing in talent, but to visit a recruit so much shows he is dedicated to getting guys he believes in. Pierce has a great opportunity to play a lot at MU for all four years, assuming he commits and stays. Hopefully Pierce and his family value Buzz's honesty, hard work and his character.
Do you think Yates is a backup plan to Satchel committing elsewhere, or might he be willing to take them both? Would Yates be a 3 or 4 year player? Also, how close were we on Embiid? I didn't follow as closely then but it seems like we were maybe number 4 or 5 on his list after he chose Kansas.
I think there is no question that Buzz wants both, in a very similar capacity to Oxtule, even if it means an over signing situation with Malek Harris still coming on board.
Here's the info from the PITT premium board, have no knowledge who the writer is, veracity, etc...., just posting for FYI:
"Satchel has moved his decision date up and will make a commitment within the next few days. He just told me that he will have a decision by Wednesday. That means he will not be visiting Marquette, but that does not mean they are out. He is having a great visit in Miami and his relationship with Marquette is very strong. Strong enough that he does not even need to visit.
I don't think this one is going Pitt's way."
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 27, 2013, 01:36:35 PM
It's good to know Buzz is working so hard to get these guys. Of course he wants to keep bringing in talent, but to visit a recruit so much shows he is dedicated to getting guys he believes in. Pierce has a great opportunity to play a lot at MU for all four years, assuming he commits and stays. Hopefully Pierce and his family value Buzz's honesty, hard work and his character.
Do you think Yates is a backup plan to Satchel committing elsewhere, or might he be willing to take them both? Would Yates be a 3 or 4 year player? Also, how close were we on Embiid? I didn't follow as closely then but it seems like we were maybe number 4 or 5 on his list after he chose Kansas.
I'm not sure if Yates would be a backup plan to Satchel or more a replacement for McKay, whose scholarship is now open. Seems like Pierce is the top priority right now, but I was expecting 2 more commits even before the combination of Harris' situation and McKay's departure. Now it seems a certainty. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Buzz took two commits and stayed open to the option of a mid-season transfer (since McKay left that slot will be open) or looked at a possible 5th year big man transfer next year (Alex Kirk...the grass is greener in Milwaukee, mainly because there's no grass in the New Mexico desert). Those last two are just guesses, but I really think the loss of McKay may lead to us looking for someone with more experience up front. Could also be a JUCO. As of right now, Steve Taylor projects as our starting center for 2014-15. I love Steve, but I don't think that's the role the staff wants him in.
As far as Embiid...closer than most people on here would probably believe.
Quote from: nyg on October 27, 2013, 02:12:13 PM
Here's the info from the PITT premium board, have no knowledge who the writer is, veracity, etc...., just posting for FYI:
"Satchel has moved his decision date up and will make a commitment within the next few days. He just told me that he will have a decision by Wednesday. That means he will not be visiting Marquette, but that does not mean they are out. He is having a great visit in Miami and his relationship with Marquette is very strong. Strong enough that he does not even need to visit.
I don't think this one is going Pitt's way."
That sounds pretty good on our end if true. Perhaps the other visits were to see if anything would change his mind from MU if he was really leaning toward us. And thanks for the tidbits of info brew. It would make sense for a big man transfer to fill McKay's spot and make sure the classes aren't too lop-sided.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 27, 2013, 02:23:48 PM
I'm not sure if Yates would be a backup plan to Satchel or more a replacement for McKay, whose scholarship is now open. Seems like Pierce is the top priority right now, but I was expecting 2 more commits even before the combination of Harris' situation and McKay's departure. Now it seems a certainty. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Buzz took two commits and stayed open to the option of a mid-season transfer (since McKay left that slot will be open) or looked at a possible 5th year big man transfer next year (Alex Kirk...the grass is greener in Milwaukee, mainly because there's no grass in the New Mexico desert). Those last two are just guesses, but I really think the loss of McKay may lead to us looking for someone with more experience up front. Could also be a JUCO. As of right now, Steve Taylor projects as our starting center for 2014-15. I love Steve, but I don't think that's the role the staff wants him in.
As far as Embiid...closer than most people on here would probably believe.
Can't get a mid-season transfer as MU used its 13 scholies which are one year in term. McKay simply burned that scholie for MU.
Quote from: Nukem2 on October 27, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Can't get a mid-season transfer as MU used its 13 scholies which are one year in term. McKay simply burned that scholie for MU.
Is this for sure? Can anyone confirm this with certainty?
Yes it's true
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 27, 2013, 03:46:59 PM
Is this for sure? Can anyone confirm this with certainty?
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 27, 2013, 03:46:59 PM
Is this for sure? Can anyone confirm this with certainty?
I do not know, but it would seem logical that if McKay left school the scholarship would open up. Even with a scholarship the chance of a good mid-season transfer is so remote, i would not be expecting one.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 27, 2013, 02:57:29 PM
That sounds pretty good on our end if true. Perhaps the other visits were to see if anything would change his mind from MU if he was really leaning toward us. And thanks for the tidbits of info brew. It would make sense for a big man transfer to fill McKay's spot and make sure the classes aren't too lop-sided.
I think if he commits on Wednesday it is to Miami. Why would you make such a major decision so close to signing day without visiting. Players have committed to MU before visiting, but generally they still visited before signing day.
Quote from: bilsu on October 27, 2013, 06:44:57 PM
I think if he commits on Wednesday it is to Miami. Why would you make such a major decision so close to signing day without visiting. Players have committed to MU before visiting, but generally they still visited before signing day.
Agreed. If the Pitt board is correct, then why would Pierce not take the time to visit? I suppose it is possible that he is so excited about Marquette that he doesn't even need to visit and the other visit were just to make sure.
Quote from: bilsu on October 27, 2013, 06:42:02 PM
I do not know, but it would seem logical that if McKay left school the scholarship would open up. Even with a scholarship the chance of a good mid-season transfer is so remote, i would not be expecting one.
As posted, scholies are for a year....just the way it is.
Corey Evans, who has been the most vocal writer on the Pierce recruitment, said today both that he didn't know of any plan to move up the announcement date and that he still expects Pierce to commit to Marquette after his visit this upcoming weekend.
Thx Brew for the real news.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 27, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
Corey Evans, who has been the most vocal writer on the Pierce recruitment, said today both that he didn't know of any plan to move up the announcement date and that he still expects Pierce to commit to Marquette after his visit this upcoming weekend.
Corey Evans is 21 of 26 in accurate predictions. He's very good. He did miss on Ben Lammers. Predicted us, but Georgia Tech got him.
Quote from: nyg on October 27, 2013, 01:00:51 PM
OK, I might see it now.
Murs, when you get this far down, if that was the case, my bad. I don't go off often.
Back on track, my friend heard it on the PITT board and stated he moved commitment date to Weds. and the feeling is a Miami lean now after his visit. Speculation only.
I'm sorry I wasn't clearer. I've got my fingers crossed that you friend is wrong, and Stachel waits until Saturday to commit.
Modification: I assumed that what your friend said had to do with Satchel eliminating MU which I thought "didn't make much sense", but the content of that premium Pitt article saying that he might not need to visit MU to pick MU is an entirely different animal.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 27, 2013, 02:23:48 PM
I'm not sure if Yates would be a backup plan to Satchel or more a replacement for McKay, whose scholarship is now open. Seems like Pierce is the top priority right now, but I was expecting 2 more commits even before the combination of Harris' situation and McKay's departure. Now it seems a certainty. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Buzz took two commits and stayed open to the option of a mid-season transfer (since McKay left that slot will be open) or looked at a possible 5th year big man transfer next year (Alex Kirk...the grass is greener in Milwaukee, mainly because there's no grass in the New Mexico desert). Those last two are just guesses, but I really think the loss of McKay may lead to us looking for someone with more experience up front. Could also be a JUCO. As of right now, Steve Taylor projects as our starting center for 2014-15. I love Steve, but I don't think that's the role the staff wants him in.
As far as Embiid...closer than most people on here would probably believe.
I had that feeling too; up until Kansas hosted him at their Midnight Madness. He really got blown away when he visited for that, and we were effectively out of the picture after that, I thought.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 27, 2013, 01:36:35 PM
It's good to know Buzz is working so hard to get these guys. Of course he wants to keep bringing in talent, but to visit a recruit so much shows he is dedicated to getting guys he believes in. Pierce has a great opportunity to play a lot at MU for all four years, assuming he commits and stays. Hopefully Pierce and his family value Buzz's honesty, hard work and his character.
Do you think Yates is a backup plan to Satchel committing elsewhere, or might he be willing to take them both? Would Yates be a 3 or 4 year player? Also, how close were we on Embiid? I didn't follow as closely then but it seems like we were maybe number 4 or 5 on his list after he chose Kansas.
Yates is going to a prep school because he didn't like his college options after graduating HS. He was a PF on a HS school team that had a dominate center, 6'9" 275 lb. Kennedy Meeks who went to North Carolina, so his opportunities may have been limited. He
projects to be a four year guy, but who knows? He could develop nicely, or he could Roseboro. His year in prep school should give us fan types a better read on him. Since his name has only recently popped up, I
assume that he is showing some great signs in the Charlotte preseason league that he is playing in, and Buzz is trying to tie him up early before his recruiting blows up.
Quote from: moomoo on October 27, 2013, 08:48:54 PM
Corey Evans is 21 of 26 in accurate predictions. He's very good. He did miss on Ben Lammers. Predicted us, but Georgia Tech got him.
FWIW, I think the Crystal Ball crap is a bunch of nonsense. Every recruitment is different and there are ways to game is.. 21 of 26 means zero.
That said, I've seen Corey out at events and based on what I know of him and his locale, I'd pay attention to his thoughts on Pierce. Hardworking, smart kid (Corey).
Heard somewhere else that Pierce may announce his decision this week. If he does, I don't think that will bode well for Marquette. The staff really needs to work hard to get him on campus before he makes his decision.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 28, 2013, 11:04:16 AM
Heard somewhere else that Pierce may announce his decision this week. If he does, I don't think that will bode well for Marquette. The staff really needs to work hard to get him on campus before he makes his decision.
You can take your official anytime, including
after you've made an announcement or signed your NLI... it doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
Frankly, I would save my top choice for my last visit (to force myself not to make a decision prematurely)... if the other four officials don't show me anything that would potentially dissuade me from selecting my top choice, I'm in a comfortable position to announce right after my 4th visit and then I can take my official during the conference season when I can actually enjoy myself and watch my future team play a conference game. But that's just me.
Quote from: Benny B on October 28, 2013, 11:20:20 AM
You can take your official anytime, including after you've made an announcement or signed your NLI... it doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
Frankly, I would save my top choice for my last visit (to force myself not to make a decision prematurely)... if the other four officials don't show me anything that would potentially dissuade me from selecting my top choice, I'm in a comfortable position to announce right after my 4th visit and then I can take my official during the conference season when I can actually enjoy myself and watch my future team play a conference game. But that's just me.
I think what brew is saying is that he has information that implies that an early selection is *likely* not going to benefit MU.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 28, 2013, 11:23:54 AM
I think what brew is saying is that he has information, and that implies that an early selection is *likely* not going to benefit MU.
Not to put words in Brew's mouth, but I think I FIFY.
Rumblings on the twittosphere that Miami may getting a commitment from a basketball player...Ugh. The lack of attractiveness of MU to bigger, quality players astounds...
Serpentor @doncmleon 47m
we might get a commit today? any 1 know who it might be? #Canes
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Joe Garcia @JGJr9 45m
@doncmleon Where'd you see this?
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Serpentor @doncmleon 44m
@JGJr9 its on rivals front page.. theyre not showing a face, only the U
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Joe Garcia @JGJr9 43m
@doncmleon That's for some basketball kid I think.
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Serpentor @doncmleon 42m
@JGJr9 gotcha! I saw it and thought -- how in the hell did we miss this?
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Rojo Johnson @KnowNeed4AName 39m
@doncmleon @JGJr9 This is the recruit they're talking about http://247sports.com/Player/Satchel-Pierce-31850
I hope we get this guy but it seems like whoever is last in gets him. Visits Pitt, Pitt lean. Buzz has in home, MU lean. Visits Miami, rumor he will commit early.
It's like following a little kid down the cereal aisle in the grocery store.
I hope the big fella slows down and takes a little time to think, no matter what he decides.
I trust Corey Evans more than I trust random PITT and Miami fans. If he says that he hasn't heard anything about Pierce committing early, then I don't think its true. Pierce will come this weekend and hopefully Buzz knocks his socks off. If not, onto the next one.
Quote from: siliconwarrior on October 28, 2013, 12:40:40 PM
Rumblings on the twittosphere that Miami may getting a commitment from a basketball player...Ugh. The lack of attractiveness of MU to bigger, quality players astounds...
Serpentor @doncmleon 47m
we might get a commit today? any 1 know who it might be? #Canes
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Joe Garcia @JGJr9 45m
@doncmleon Where'd you see this?
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Serpentor @doncmleon 44m
@JGJr9 its on rivals front page.. theyre not showing a face, only the U
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Joe Garcia @JGJr9 43m
@doncmleon That's for some basketball kid I think.
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Serpentor @doncmleon 42m
@JGJr9 gotcha! I saw it and thought -- how in the hell did we miss this?
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Rojo Johnson @KnowNeed4AName 39m
@doncmleon @JGJr9 This is the recruit they're talking about http://247sports.com/Player/Satchel-Pierce-31850
I love the dynamics displayed here. At a football school like Miami Pierce is just "some basketball kid I think." This attitude towards basketball should give us more of a leg up on football schools than it does
The "teaser" that ye olde twitta twacka was referring to:
http://miami.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1567215&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 28, 2013, 01:19:49 PM
I love the dynamics displayed here. At a football school like Miami Pierce is just "some basketball kid I think." This attitude towards basketball should give us more of a leg up on football schools than it does
It is a different world down at the U, I went to school there for a year, like a country club.
Quote from: Benny B on October 28, 2013, 01:44:49 PM
The "teaser" that ye olde twitta twacka was referring to:
http://miami.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1567215&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Wow, that just reads like a phony headline trolling for clicks. As someone else mentioned, I love that their fans assumed it was for a football player, and then dismiss it as just "some basketball kid".
Quote from: Litehouse on October 28, 2013, 03:15:04 PM
Wow, that just reads like a phony headline trolling for clicks. As someone else mentioned, I love that their fans assumed it was for a football player, and then dismiss it as just "some basketball kid".
Just looked at Corey Evans twitter....he is NOT saying MU lean, he is just saying MU has the most to offer he kid, from a basketball perspective. Not exactly going out on the limb with that one, but hey, I hope his prediction comes true.
looks like he's coming to MU this weekend:
twitter feed below:
blank @Buzz4Pres 9m
@satch1032 when you making your visit to Marquette? Saving the best for last? Don't forget who pasted Miami to get to the Elite 8 last yr
Satchel Pierce @satch1032 7m
@Buzz4Pres coming this weekend hopefully
blank @Buzz4Pres 39s
@satch1032 awesome, we can't wait to have you! Hope you love Marq.
Probably Satchel Paige-- "Risen from the dead"
7-6 300 pg
Quote from: moomoo on October 28, 2013, 05:04:17 PM
looks like he's coming to MU this weekend:
twitter feed below:
blank @Buzz4Pres 9m
@satch1032 when you making your visit to Marquette? Saving the best for last? Don't forget who pasted Miami to get to the Elite 8 last yr
Satchel Pierce @satch1032 7m
@Buzz4Pres coming this weekend hopefully
blank @Buzz4Pres 39s
@satch1032 awesome, we can't wait to have you! Hope you love Marq.
@Buzz4Pres coming this weekend
hopefullythis weekend
hopefullyhopefully(http://www.kashflow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/tumblr_lr881krLUG1qlrinq.gif)
My gut feeling says he's not coming
Quote from: moomoo on October 28, 2013, 04:24:34 PM
Just looked at Corey Evans twitter....he is NOT saying MU lean, he is just saying MU has the most to offer he kid, from a basketball perspective. Not exactly going out on the limb with that one, but hey, I hope his prediction comes true.
I was the one he was talking to there. We both agreed that Marquette has the most to offer him and Corey said that he did enjoy the Miami visit. He still believes that Pierce will end up at Marquette.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on October 28, 2013, 05:50:12 PM
I was the one he was talking to there. We both agreed that Marquette has the most to offer him and Corey said that he did enjoy the Miami visit. He still believes that Pierce will end up at Marquette.
How incompetent would a Miami B-ball coach have to be to not have a recruit have a good visit?
Uceda definitely has the size to start at center at the "U". Does anyone know if his game fits well there? Miami also has a good sized PF committed in the freshman class, and is still in the hunt for one more.
"Hopefully"is a funny choice if words. Is his visit out of his control? Doubtful. Is there another potential conflict that we don't know about? Maybe. Or was it just an easy way to respond without giving a direct answer? We will find out soon. Marquette certainly has a LOT to offer MR. Pierce, and Mr. Pierce has a LOT to offer Marquette. A great fit.
In other news...this thread is turning into an epic one - 17,392 Views!! Looks like everyone at MU wants to know who Satchel Pierce is...and what better way to find out than for Satchel to come to MU. Hope Buzz reels him in.
Pierce tweeted this last night:
@satch1032: God just told me what school I should goto The only problem is I dont uwhat he was trying to say. Anyone tryin to help me with this one?
Not sure if he's looking for Twitter love, conflicted, or has simply made his mind up. One thing that would worry me...if he's really getting a message from God, he'll probably go to Miami. After all, everyone at Marquette is already saved, whereas the U is clearly a den of sinner that either need to be saved or purged ;D
Well today is supposedly the day Pierce chooses. We'll see....
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 30, 2013, 06:41:03 AM
Pierce tweeted this last night:
@satch1032: God just told me what school I should goto The only problem is I dont uwhat he was trying to say. Anyone tryin to help me with this one?
Not sure if he's looking for Twitter love, conflicted, or has simply made his mind up. One thing that would worry me...if he's really getting a message from God, he'll probably go to Miami. After all, everyone at Marquette is already saved, whereas the U is clearly a den of sinner that either need to be saved or purged ;D
It sounds to me that he is making fun of Buzz, which means MU is out of it.
Quote from: bilsu on October 30, 2013, 07:43:52 AM
It sounds to me that he is making fun of Buzz, which means MU is out of it.
How's he making fun of buzz?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 30, 2013, 07:46:25 AM
How's he making fun of buzz?
Because Buzz is likely to tell him about praying about his choice.
Quote from: bilsu on October 30, 2013, 09:28:15 AM
Because Buzz is likely to tell him about praying about his choice.
Buzz would say that, but I highly doubt this kid is taking to Twitter to insult Buzz. More likely, genuinely confused as he's allegedly always leaning toward his most recent coach or school visit. I wouldn't read too much into an 18 year-old's Tweets though. Hoping Buzz lands him - time will tell.
God would choose MU. No brainer.
I am pumped. Today is his decision? A 7 foot, 2.7 star center ranked 200. We are finally landing the stud bigs. Hope he commits our way.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 30, 2013, 09:55:53 AM
I am pumped. Today is his decision? A 7 foot, 2.7 star center ranked 200. We are finally landing the stud bigs. Hope he commits our way.
And boom goes the dynamite. Ignore.
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 30, 2013, 10:02:56 AM
And boom goes the dynamite. Ignore.
Ignore all you want. I hope we land the guy.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 30, 2013, 09:55:53 AM
I am pumped. Today is his decision? A 7 foot, 2.7 star center ranked 200. We are finally landing the stud bigs. Hope he commits our way.
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee289/pker295/brad.gif)
Quote from: mr.MUskie on October 30, 2013, 10:28:30 AM
How tall is he?
I'm not sure how tall Norman is, but God looks like he has to be at least 8 foot or so...
(http://www.mbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/FarSideGod1.jpg)
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 30, 2013, 06:41:03 AM
Pierce tweeted this last night:
@satch1032: God just told me what school I should goto The only problem is I dont uwhat he was trying to say. Anyone tryin to help me with this one?
Not sure if he's looking for Twitter love, conflicted, or has simply made his mind up. One thing that would worry me...if he's really getting a message from God, he'll probably go to Miami. After all, everyone at Marquette is already saved, whereas the U is clearly a den of sinner that either need to be saved or purged ;D
Not a twitter guy, does it have spell check? Good Grief, like decoding the illuminati.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on October 30, 2013, 10:49:12 AM
Not a twitter guy, does it have spell check? Good Grief, like decoding the illuminati.
There are definite drawbacks to 140 characters. Twitter is not a place for the grammar conscious.
Quote from: Benny B on October 30, 2013, 10:30:54 AM
I'm not sure how tall Norman is, but God looks like he has to be at least 8 foot or so...
(http://www.mbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/FarSideGod1.jpg)
And it looks like he's got an NBA-ready frame...already has some bulk. I hope he signs.
Assuming Norman's average height (say, 5'10"), I think God's got to be taller than 8'. Maybe we could get PTM to make an educated guess (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=40036.msg521944#msg521944).
Quote from: Pakuni on October 30, 2013, 10:08:39 AM
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee289/pker295/brad.gif)
...Says the guy with 4500 posts. The picture must be referring to himself.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 30, 2013, 10:54:31 AM
And it looks like he's got an NBA-ready frame...already has some bulk. I hope he signs.
Assuming Norman's average height (say, 5'10"), I think God's got to be taller than 8'. Maybe we could get PTM to make an educated guess (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=40036.msg521944#msg521944).
Any chance we can get Michael to come along, too, in a package deal? Bet it would be a great PF/C combo. Certain to put up huge numbers against Duke.
Quote from: MUCrew on October 28, 2013, 05:31:17 PM
My gut feeling says he's not coming
It could just be indigestion.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 30, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
...Says the guy with 4500 posts. The picture must be referring to himself.
Pakuni's post clearly went over your head. Post count is not directly related to attention whoring. Repeating the same mantra in seemingly every single one of your posts, on the other hand...
Trust me on this, we do not want this guy. While he has all the tools, his head is never in the game. Zero focus. He is constantly distracted by the thoughts and goings on of 7 billion people. A lot of the time he even forgets that he's in a game.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 30, 2013, 10:54:31 AM
And it looks like he's got an NBA-ready frame...already has some bulk. I hope he signs.
(http://www.mbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/FarSideGod1.jpg)
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 30, 2013, 11:35:59 AM
Trust me on this, we do not want this guy. While he has all the tools, his head is never in the game. Zero focus. He is constantly distracted by the thoughts and goings on of 7 billion people. A lot of the time he even forgets that he's in a game.
Yeah, but imagine the post-game pressers..."First of all, I'd like to thank me because, well, let's face it, we couldn't have done it without me."
Quote from: willie warrior on October 30, 2013, 09:55:53 AM
I am pumped. Today is his decision? A 7 foot, 2.7 star center ranked 200. We are finally landing the stud bigs. Hope he commits our way.
That may be your most obnoxious to date.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 30, 2013, 11:35:59 AM
Trust me on this, we do not want this guy. While he has all the tools, his head is never in the game. Zero focus. He is constantly distracted by the thoughts and goings on of 7 billion people. A lot of the time he even forgets that he's in a game.
How do you know that? I trust Buzz and if a 3 star 7 footer wants to walk through the doors of the Al I sure as hell wouldnt say no.
Quote from: esard2011 on October 30, 2013, 11:47:35 AM
How do you know that? I trust Buzz and if a 3 star 7 footer wants to walk through the doors of the Al I sure as hell wouldnt say no.
Pretty sure Murs was referring to the Almighty, not Paige, as the recruit we don't want.
And I kind of concur. I mean, sure, his game is perfect, but is he coachable? Doesn't seem like the type to take direction from mortals.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 30, 2013, 11:52:50 AM
Pretty sure Murs was referring to the Almighty, not Paige, as the recruit we don't want.
And I kind of concur. I mean, sure, his game is perfect, but is he coachable? Doesn't seem like the type to take direction from mortals.
I don't have a problem with it, but I know the fact that he's already got a kid is not going to sit right with some people.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 30, 2013, 09:55:53 AM
I am pumped. Today is his decision? A 7 foot, 2.7 star center ranked 200. We are finally landing the stud bigs. Hope he commits our way.
Willie,
There is more than 1 way to get an effective big man on your roster.
Getting Anthony Davis is one way. (Impact comes immediately)
Getting Davante Gardner is another way (Impact comes in years 3&4)
I realize you love the top rated bigs, but that's not the ONLY way to get a good center.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 30, 2013, 11:52:50 AM
Pretty sure Murs was referring to the Almighty, not Paige, as the recruit we don't want.
And I kind of concur. I mean, sure, his game is perfect, but is he coachable? Doesn't seem like the type to take direction from mortals.
Well in that case...
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 30, 2013, 11:45:38 AM
Yeah, but imagine the post-game pressers..."First of all, I'd like to thank me because, well, let's face it, we couldn't have done it without me."
This differs from a typical NBA presser how???
Quote from: Benny B on October 30, 2013, 11:59:45 AM
I don't have a problem with it, but I know the fact that he's already got a kid is not going to sit right with some people.
I look at this situation as a positive. He took responsibility for the kid, but I'm told he never touched the mother.
but is he a traditional?
God forfeited his remaining eligibility when he turned pro, after he and Austin Croshere led Providence to the E8 in 1997.
Quote from: Benny B on October 30, 2013, 11:59:45 AM
I don't have a problem with it, but I know the fact that he's already got a kid is not going to sit right with some people.
LOL
The way he healed the lame, we can kiss those walking boots good bye!
Quote from: barfolomew on October 30, 2013, 12:35:58 PM
God forfeited his remaining eligibility when he turned pro, after he and Austin Croshere led Providence to the E8 in 1997.
False. He is infallible so if He says He has eligibility, then He is right.
Yet another 2 pages wasted
Anyone know what time Pierce is announcing?
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 30, 2013, 01:58:09 PM
Yet another 2 pages wasted
Sounds like someone needs a Snickers.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on October 30, 2013, 01:58:09 PM
Yet another 2 pages wasted
... Of precious Internet pages.
Quote from: 4th and State on October 30, 2013, 02:00:31 PM
Anyone know what time Pierce is announcing?
Given the recent conversation, I'm recalling the Reggie White decision. Of course God wanted him to become a Packer.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 30, 2013, 11:25:26 AM
Pakuni's post clearly went over your head. Post count is not directly related to attention whoring. Repeating the same mantra in seemingly every single one of your posts, on the other hand...
Soorry Brew---once again you get it wrong. "Seemingly every single one of your posts" is wrong--maybe your way of embellishing--but hey then that same thing applies to you as you seemingly single those posts out every single time--clearly over your head--eh?
By the way if post count is not directly related to whoring, which I do agree is not, then neither is repeating a mantra periodically. Time for the ignore button on the old brewmeister.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 30, 2013, 02:20:09 PM
... Of precious Internet pages.
save the cyber-trees!
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on October 30, 2013, 12:01:04 PM
Willie,
There is more than 1 way to get an effective big man on your roster.
Getting Anthony Davis is one way. (Impact comes immediately)
Getting Davante Gardner is another way (Impact comes in years 3&4)
I realize you love the top rated bigs, but that's not the ONLY way to get a good center.
I think you are right, except in Gardner's case, impact came late in year 1 and definitely in year 2.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 30, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
I think you are right, except in Gardner's case, impact came late in year 1 and definitely in year 2.
This is true. As early as the game against Bucknell in Gardner's freshman year he was making a major impact. He also proves that it is possible to get bigs who are not "studs" according to recruiting services who have a major impact as underclassman, though.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 30, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
I think you are right, except in Gardner's case, impact came late in year 1 and definitely in year 2.
Even better.
Then MU should continue to look for highly rated guards, and sign big bodies with potential. They have proven that they can develop bigs quicker than anticipated.
Phew. Glad this debate is over.
Everybody can relax now. Willie is cool with project bigs.
Quote from: 4th and State on October 30, 2013, 02:00:31 PM
Anyone know what time Pierce is announcing?
Saturday with Buzz from the AL.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 30, 2013, 02:36:21 PM
Soorry Brew---once again you get it wrong. "Seemingly every single one of your posts" is wrong--maybe your way of embellishing--but hey then that same thing applies to you as you seemingly single those posts out every single time--clearly over your head--eh?
By the way if post count is not directly related to whoring, which I do agree is not, then neither is repeating a mantra periodically. Time for the ignore button on the old brewmeister.
Ah yes...only 15 of your last 25 posts. I guess 60% is barely any of your posts. I guess 60% of the time is periodically in your book, willie.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 30, 2013, 02:39:50 PM
I think you are right, except in Gardner's case, impact came late in year 1 and definitely in year 2.
I am going by memory, but I think Gardner averaged close to 10 points a game before he hurt his shoulder. Played with hurt shoulder against Gonzaga and was ineffective in that game. So Gardner had an impact from day one and would of been a stud from day one, if he was not in such bad shape.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 30, 2013, 02:20:09 PM
... Of precious Internet pages.
it's very precious! we're talking about a 3 star big man here
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on October 30, 2013, 02:49:10 PM
Even better.
Then MU should continue to look for highly rated guards, and sign big bodies with potential. They have proven that they can develop bigs quicker than anticipated.
Phew. Glad this debate is over.
Everybody can relax now. Willie is cool with project bigs.
Yeah--they have proven it-Mbao, McMorrow, Roseboro, Williams, Durley(who developed right out of even coming), etc. Glad for Gardner, but as they say, the proof is in the puddng.
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 12s
Due to scheduling conflicts, 2014 Kiski center Satchel Pierce will not visit Marquette this weekend but will attempt in coming few weeks
Sounds like he's dragging his heels. Can't wait on him if it means losing out on other prospects, like Yates.
Quote from: MuMark on October 30, 2013, 07:59:49 PM
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 12s
Due to scheduling conflicts, 2014 Kiski center Satchel Pierce will not visit Marquette this weekend but will attempt in coming few weeks
Brutal.
If you read the whole conversation on Twitter, Corey Evans states he just wants to visit before he announces his decision. And, he still plans to visit in the next few weeks. I don't blame him one bit, it's a big decision.
Early signing period is Nov 13-20. The OSU game is Nov 16th. Bring him in that weekend, and I like our chances.
Quote from: 94Warrior on October 30, 2013, 08:47:54 PMEarly signing period is Nov 13-20. The OSU game is Nov 16th. Bring him in that weekend, and I like our chances.
I wouldn't mind at all having Pierce visit with Charles Matthews. Maybe get Diamond to swing on over that weekend too.
Diamond will not miss that game....regardless of his college choice.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 30, 2013, 08:38:02 PM
Brutal.
I disagree. He didn't announce for another school today. The "hopefully" response to the question on twitter about whether he was coming this weekend was just explained. And, finally he'll have a little more time for his visit to Miami to wear off before he comes to MU. All good.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 30, 2013, 10:37:07 PM
I disagree. He didn't announce for another school today. The "hopefully" response to the question on twitter about whether he was coming this weekend was just explained. And, finally he'll have a little more time for his visit to Miami to wear off before he comes to MU. All good.
This
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 30, 2013, 10:37:07 PM
I disagree. He didn't announce for another school today. The "hopefully" response to the question on twitter about whether he was coming this weekend was just explained. And, finally he'll have a little more time for his visit to Miami to wear off before he comes to MU. All good.
And more time for the weather to turn to krap. Hopefully he's forgotten about the palm trees in Miami by then.
Maybe the young man has other things in his life to attend to. He'll visit and it'll be over a weekend when we have a home game. Perhaps he'll see the BEast banner raised to the rafters or tOSU game. Who wouldn't love that? As Kevin Bacon once said, 'All is well!'
Quote from: jsglow on October 30, 2013, 11:28:10 PM
Maybe the young man has other things in his life to attend to. He'll visit and it'll be over a weekend when we have a home game. Perhaps he'll see the BEast banner raised to the rafters or tOSU game. Who wouldn't love that? As Kevin Bacon once said, 'All is well!'
Actually, not the best example to use here.
If Marquette fails to win a national title in the next two years will Chris Otule declare; "Seven years of college down the drain"?
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 31, 2013, 12:07:08 AM
If Marquette fails to win a national title in the next two years will Chris Otule declare; "Seven years of college down the drain"?
nope, but willie will be right there to do it for him.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 30, 2013, 10:37:07 PM
I disagree. He didn't announce for another school today. The "hopefully" response to the question on twitter about whether he was coming this weekend was just explained. And, finally he'll have a little more time for his visit to Miami to wear off before he comes to MU. All good.
I'll definitely take a later announcement date over a commitment to Miami. Buzz has been working really hard on this kid, just needs to work a bit harder to get him on campus.
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 30, 2013, 10:37:07 PM
I disagree. He didn't announce for another school today. The "hopefully" response to the question on twitter about whether he was coming this weekend was just explained. And, finally he'll have a little more time for his visit to Miami to wear off before he comes to MU. All good.
Actually, I'm with you on this. This makes me more optimistic, not less. This sounds to me like a kid who has decided he's coming, but he wants to announce it at or after the visit. Because he's already decided, the timing of the visit is less important.
Granted, this may be purely wishful thinking.
Here is a twtter exchange from yesterday with an MU "booster":
vince mullins @chenz80 13h
@satch1032 did I miss your announcement?
Satchel Pierce @satch1032 13h
@chenz80 no I didn't make it today sorry
vince mullins @chenz80 13h
@satch1032 when can Marquette nation learn of your decision?
Satchel Pierce @satch1032 13h
@chenz80 very soon
vince mullins @chenz80 12h
@satch1032 all the best no matter where you end up going! Would love to see you at the Bradley Center though!
Satchel Pierce @satch1032 12h
"@chenz80: @satch1032 all the best no matter where you end up going! Would love to see you at the Bradley Center though!" Thank you!
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 31, 2013, 07:18:52 AM
Actually, I'm with you on this. This makes me more optimistic, not less. This sounds to me like a kid who has decided he's coming, but he wants to announce it at or after the visit. Because he's already decided, the timing of the visit is less important.
Granted, this may be purely wishful thinking.
I see this as Buzz working very hard to fight off a commitment to Miami. Assuming he was scheduled to come this weekend to visit MU and now Buzz is meeting him today sounds more to me like he had told Buzz he was going to go elsewhere and Buzz talked him into giving Buzz one more chance to meet with him.
Quote from: bilsu on October 31, 2013, 08:33:22 AM
I see this as Buzz working very hard to fight off a commitment to Miami. Assuming he was scheduled to come this weekend to visit MU and now Buzz is meeting him today sounds more to me like he had told Buzz he was going to go elsewhere and Buzz talked him into giving Buzz one more chance to meet with him.
You may be right. If so, nice work Buzz, now close the deal.
I've seen some kids in other sports who are using their official visits
after they commit. If the decision has already been made (i.e., you've seen what the others have to offer and you still want to go to Marquette), then you schedule the official visit as a stress-free trip to go hang out with your future teammates. I'm hoping that this is what is going on here. He's made his decision, he's coming to Marquette, and he just wants to schedule the official visit but now there's no hurry. It would be a lot of fun to schedule the visit when there's a home game. If he's coming next weekend -- for the opener against Southern -- I'll feel very good about our chances.
But, like I said before, this might just be wishful thinking.
Quote from: bilsu on October 31, 2013, 08:33:22 AM
I see this as Buzz working very hard to fight off a commitment to Miami. Assuming he was scheduled to come this weekend to visit MU and now Buzz is meeting him today sounds more to me like he had told Buzz he was going to go elsewhere and Buzz talked him into giving Buzz one more chance to meet with him.
not sure if you mean that Buzz is definitely meeting him today or you are assuming he is?
Quote from: moomoo on October 31, 2013, 08:46:31 AM
not sure if you mean that Buzz is definitely meeting him today or you are assuming he is?
All I know is what I have read on this site. What I understood from reading posts here is that Buzz was meeting him today. So based on what I read I am assuming Buzz is meeting with him today.
Quote from: bilsu on October 31, 2013, 08:53:54 AM
All I know is what I have read on this site. What I understood from reading posts here is that Buzz was meeting him today. So based on what I read I am assuming Buzz is meeting with him today.
Where did you see that? I feel like I've followed this one fairly closely, but don't recall seeing that anywhere.
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on October 31, 2013, 08:23:19 AM
Here is a twtter exchange from yesterday with an MU "booster":
vince mullins @chenz80 13h
@satch1032 did I miss your announcement?
Satchel Pierce @satch1032 13h
@chenz80 no I didn't make it today sorry
vince mullins @chenz80 13h
@satch1032 when can Marquette nation learn of your decision?
Satchel Pierce @satch1032 13h
@chenz80 very soon
vince mullins @chenz80 12h
@satch1032 all the best no matter where you end up going! Would love to see you at the Bradley Center though!
Satchel Pierce @satch1032 12h
"@chenz80: @satch1032 all the best no matter where you end up going! Would love to see you at the Bradley Center though!" Thank you!
Looks like Vince is all over this ::) Couldn't be more of a booster in this case. <shaking head>
https://mobile.twitter.com/chenz80
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 31, 2013, 08:41:54 AM
You may be right. If so, nice work Buzz, now close the deal.
I've seen some kids in other sports who are using their official visits after they commit. If the decision has already been made (i.e., you've seen what the others have to offer and you still want to go to Marquette), then you schedule the official visit as a stress-free trip to go hang out with your future teammates. I'm hoping that this is what is going on here. He's made his decision, he's coming to Marquette, and he just wants to schedule the official visit but now there's no hurry. It would be a lot of fun to schedule the visit when there's a home game. If he's coming next weekend -- for the opener against Southern -- I'll feel very good about our chances.
But, like I said before, this might just be wishful thinking.
Guess whose "ignore" list I'm on?
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39950.msg525228#msg525228
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 31, 2013, 09:49:31 AM
Looks like Vince is all over this ::) Couldn't be more of a booster in this case. <shaking head>
https://mobile.twitter.com/chenz80
Oh well... I'll happily take Satchel and a secondary violation at this point.
The kid's not going to miss any games, and Broeker gets a "sternly" written form letter from Indianapolis.
Quote from: Benny B on October 31, 2013, 10:37:23 AM
Oh well... I'll happily take Satchel and a secondary violation at this point.
The kid's not going to miss any games, and Broeker gets a "sternly" written form letter from Indianapolis.
I get it....it's just beyond creepy weird to me.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 31, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
I get it....it's just beyond creepy weird to me.
Then just say it's creepy. No need to get up on the booster horse when there's far, far worse out there.
Quote from: Benny B on October 31, 2013, 10:32:29 AM
Guess whose "ignore" list I'm on?
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39950.msg525228#msg525228
Probably quite a few...but not mine. I missed that one. Great minds think alike?
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 31, 2013, 12:11:34 PM
Probably quite a few...but not mine. I missed that one. Great minds think alike?
Don't think like me too much or else you're going to end up on the same ignore lists as I.
Makes me cringe reading someone sucking up to him so hard directly on twitter.
I know some people put no stock in Crystal Ball, but when Mark Miller puts up a prediction about a Marquette target, personally I tend to listen. Mark doesn't make a lot of predictions, usually only Marquette guys, and he hasn't missed on a Marquette target yet, whether it was a guy coming here or going elsewhere. He missed Looney, but who didn't?
Anyway...tonight Mark Miller predicted Satchel Pierce to Marquette
@MattSteinbrink: It sounds like Pitt will in fact be adding a foreign center at some point. I'm very close to getting that name. Will post on @PantherLair
Quote from: thehammock on November 02, 2013, 08:29:37 PM
@MattSteinbrink: It sounds like Pitt will in fact be adding a foreign center at some point. I'm very close to getting that name. Will post on @PantherLair
Wallow in it, PITT! WALLOW in your descent to irrelevancy. And while you're there, say hello to West Virginia.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 02, 2013, 07:29:28 PM
I know some people put no stock in Crystal Ball, but when Mark Miller puts up a prediction about a Marquette target, personally I tend to listen. Mark doesn't make a lot of predictions, usually only Marquette guys, and he hasn't missed on a Marquette target yet, whether it was a guy coming here or going elsewhere. He missed Looney, but who didn't?
Anyway...tonight Mark Miller predicted Satchel Pierce to Marquette
REALLY like to hear this.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 02, 2013, 07:29:28 PM
I know some people put no stock in Crystal Ball, but when Mark Miller puts up a prediction about a Marquette target, personally I tend to listen. Mark doesn't make a lot of predictions, usually only Marquette guys, and he hasn't missed on a Marquette target yet, whether it was a guy coming here or going elsewhere. He missed Looney, but who didn't?
Anyway...tonight Mark Miller predicted Satchel Pierce to Marquette
I agree about Miller's predictions. That's great news!
Quote from: ElDonBDon on November 02, 2013, 09:38:09 PM
Wallow in it, PITT! WALLOW in your descent to irrelevancy. And while you're there, say hello to West Virginia.
Love it!
Quote from: ElDonBDon on November 02, 2013, 09:38:09 PM
Wallow in it, PITT! WALLOW in your descent to irrelevancy. And while you're there, say hello to West Virginia.
Agree, I will enjoy Pitt and WV being complete doormats in their respective
football conferences, but keep in mind they'll be doing their wallowing on a
gigantic pile of money.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0bf1f357536f2f89cdccb86af1229373/tumblr_mrsg74tARR1r4hsyyo1_500.gif)
This recruitment is starting to remind me of Davante's recruitment. IIRC, Davante was going to announce for South Florida on the first day of the spring signing period, but that was cancelled, and then 10 or so days later he announced for MU.
Quote from: lab_warrior on November 03, 2013, 07:54:36 AM
Agree, I will enjoy Pitt and WV being complete doormats in their respective
football conferences, but keep in mind they'll be doing their wallowing on a
gigantic pile of money.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0bf1f357536f2f89cdccb86af1229373/tumblr_mrsg74tARR1r4hsyyo1_500.gif)
Outstanding use of the gif!
Quote from: lab_warrior on November 03, 2013, 07:54:36 AM
Agree, I will enjoy Pitt and WV being complete doormats in their respective
football conferences, but keep in mind they'll be doing their wallowing on a
gigantic pile of money.
Although it'll take a few years before WVU gets their pile of money.
Quote from: lab_warrior on November 03, 2013, 07:54:36 AM
Agree, I will enjoy Pitt and WV being complete doormats in their respective
football conferences, but keep in mind they'll be doing their wallowing on a
gigantic pile of money.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0bf1f357536f2f89cdccb86af1229373/tumblr_mrsg74tARR1r4hsyyo1_500.gif)
Man, DeJuan Blair has really packed on some pounds.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2013, 10:20:38 AM
Man, DeJuan Blair has really packed on some pounds.
I'm glad you didn't say Lloyd Moore.
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on November 03, 2013, 11:28:37 AM
I'm glad you didn't say Lloyd Moore.
If that was the case, he might have said Lloyd dropped a few lbs.
Quote from: Archies Bat on November 03, 2013, 11:51:10 AM
If that was the case, he might have said Lloyd dropped a few lbs.
I invited that.
So... Did he take his official? If so, how'd it go?
Quote from: Captain Awesome on November 04, 2013, 07:14:02 PM
So... Did he take his official? If so, how'd it go?
Weekend of Ohio State game.
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 19s
2014 Kiski center Satchel Pierce tells me he plans on visiting Marquette officially weekend of November 15 for the Ohio State game
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 30s
Satchel Pierce then plans on committing shortly thereafter in order to sign during early signing period. Will pick from Pitt, Miami, & Marq
Quote from: PTM on November 04, 2013, 09:54:30 PM
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 30s
Satchel Pierce then plans on committing shortly thereafter in order to sign during early signing period. Will pick from Pitt, Miami, & Marq
So we're in his final three, and in better shape than both of those other schools (and as of now lacking a guy over 6'10 who will be on the roster next year). Good sign that he says he will decide shortly after the MU visit, so the visit will be fresh in his mind. I like our chances.
Not sure if this was posted yet, but on 247 sports 5 out of the 6 predictions have Pierce picking us.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on November 04, 2013, 11:12:33 PM
Not sure if this was posted yet, but on 247 sports 5 out of the 6 predictions have Pierce picking us.
It has, but its nice to hear again.
Definitely like our chances. It's been said before and I agree that whoever gets him last will probably land him. He visits Pitt, he has a Pitt lean. Buzz visits several times, he has a marquette lean. He visits Miami, suddenly there are rumors about "some basketball kid comitting soon."
Glad we are going to be his last visit.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on November 04, 2013, 11:12:33 PM
Not sure if this was posted yet, but on 247 sports 5 out of the 6 predictions have Pierce picking us.
The 6th must be the same dentist who recommends sugared gum!